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zerts
09-18-2006, 05:27 PM
I am learning R/C with my Slo-V, but definitely will prefer to upgrade to a good-quality sailplane (I don't like regular powered non-sailplane models all that much). As I upgrade from beginner to more advanced sailplanes, I would like to avoid the extra costs of upgrading Xmtrs- so I think I would like to start with a fairly advanced Xmtr. Would that make sense? Perhaps a price range of $200-$600. What would you recommend as a good "sailplane-ideal" Xmtr(s) in that price range? Thanks in advance...this forum is great!

Sky Sharkster
09-18-2006, 07:14 PM
Hello Zerts, I'm sure you'll get a lot of opinions on this! My choice is the Multiplex Royal Evo 9. This is a 9 channel FM TX with a synthesizer, so changing frequencies is as simple as scrolling to a new frequency, switch off, switch on again and press "enter". That's just for starters.
20 model memory, Graphic Display screen with tilt and brightness adjust, Flight Modes (including Sailplane), Digital Trims and Sub-Trims, 4 Flight Phases, RX Shift Select, Menu Text, Data Transfer (with optional cord) Free Downloads and Upgrades, Tilt Antenna, Assignable Servo and Gimbals, 1500 mAh Battery. Too much more to list here.
MultiPlex radios are made in Germany and distributed in the U.S. by Hitec. Service and repairs are in California and based on my one interaction with the service department, as well as comments from two other local users, friendly and very quick.
Tower Hobbies + HobbyHorse both list the current price for the EVO 9 (TX only) as $399.99. http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEXV7&P=7
This is one of the few products I've ever purchased that I can recommend unconditionally. The programming is not hard, and there are good additional tutorials available online.
http://www.multiplexusa.com
Check'em out!
Ron

zerts
09-18-2006, 07:49 PM
Sharkster, sounds really super for $400! thanks!

AEAJR
09-19-2006, 01:23 AM
Choosing a Sailplane Radio - What to Consider
by Ed Anderson
aeajr on the forums

This is being written for the new or relatively new sailplane/glider pilots
who are interested in flying thermal duration sailplanes. I will make a few
comments on slope planes, but these are not the main focus of the article.

This discussion is going to be more about points of consideration rather
than which is the best radio. The "best" is always that one that is just a
few $$ out of your price range or the one that is going to be released next
year. Whatever you get, there will always be one that is better at a higher
price or that will be released the month after you get yours. So let's
throw away that "best" idea. Let's focus on what features and functions you
might like to have and their relative importance. Others will have opinions
that differ from mine as there is no one right answer. But at least this
can get you thinking.

If you want to ask questions about specific radios, or if you want to share
your budget and your goals, I and others can make specific recommendations,
but don't be surprised if we don't all recommend the same thing. We each
have our opinions.

If you are the club champ or the radio wizard in your group, turn the page
because this is not for you. However you if you don't mind reading though,
you may wish to add your comments. Others will benefit from you knowledge,
insights and experience. I am not sensitive, so feel free to disagree, but
please keep the comments polite. Flame wars benefit no one.

Ultimately, the recommendations I make are based on people's budget and
goals. I try to understand how much they have to spend and where they want
this radio to take them. Then I try to focus them on the key decision
points I will outline below.

For new flyers, the goals may be more modest, so the introductory radios may
be fine for you. However, if you are committed and plan to push ahead
aggressively AND you have the budget, then you may want to step into one
of the more advanced radios. In my opinion you can not buy too much radio,
but you can buy too little.


Standard vs. Computer Radios

I will not be considering any standard radios during this discussion. They
may meet the lifetime needs of a glider pilot who is interested in casual
weekend flying of simple rudder/elevator, or even rudder/elevator/spoiler
gliders. A 2 or 3 channel standard radio will get you into the air. You
can certainly fly full house sailplanes on a 4 channel standard radio and
have a lifetime of soaring enjoyment. Never let anyone tell you that you
MUST have a hot shot computer radio to fly gliders/sailplanes because it
just isn't true. I have several standard radios that I have used to fly
gliders, both thermal and slope. However I have since moved them all over
to computer radios for convenience and for enhanced control. The standard
radios, like my old typewriter, pretty much gather dust and will likely be
given to friends to help them get started.

If you want more on this subject you may wish to read the content at this
link:

Don't Buy a Standard Radio
http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4454 (http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4454)

What computer radios provide are options and opportunities for those who
want them. They offer features that can make set-up faster and easier and
can make it very convenient to move between several planes. From an actual
flying point of view, they can help you get the most out of your plane as
well as help reduce the workload of the pilot so s/he can focus on the plane
and the conditions rather than manipulation of the surfaces. Believe me,
commercial airline pilots have plenty of computer power to help them fly.
Since the price of a computer radio is so reasonable, why shouldn't you have
the same advantage.


LET'S START WITH THE BASICS

Sailplanes and gliders, which I will use interchangeably, come in a variety
of configurations. The simplest are the rudder/elevator planes that
have dihedral or polyhedral in the wings. They have been the favorite
trainers for years and some people spend a lifetime enjoying them.

To R/E we can add spoilers, which carries the RES designation. You can
also find REF planes which add flaps to rudder/elevator controls. There are
also aileron/elevator planes, A/E, which are more common on the slope than
as
thermal ships. When we have a combination of ailerons, elevator, rudder and
flaps, A/E/R/F, we call this a full house sailplane. You can have a plane
that has flaps and spoilers, or ailerons and spoilers without flaps, but
this is unusual.

Of course, you can have a motor, but I am focused on pure flight, so no
motors on my sailplanes. If you have an electric motor, a simple on/off
switch is all you need for motor control. We will likely be using that
"throttle" stick
for glide path control rather than the motor. Other than this, I won't be
discussing motors.


How many Channels?

While there are some interesting four and five channel computer radios, I am
going to recommend you get a computer radios with six or more channels. I
don't see any real benefit for having less than six channels, as the cost
difference is small and the benefits of 6 or more channels is high. Even if
you are flying a rudder elevator sailplane today, next year you may be
adding spoilers or flaps or going to a full house plane in the future, so
get a radio that can handle that can handle this so you
aren't going back to the radio market right away.

Here is a typical channel breakdown, how many and what they are used to
control. These apply to electrics, glow, gas and gliders.

Rudder - 1
Elevator - 1 or 2
Ailerons - 1 or 2
Spoilers - 1 or 2
Flaps - 1 or 2
tow hook - 1
landing gear - 1
Motor - 1

That makes 4, 5, 6, up to 12 channels depending on what kind of plane you
have and how you set it up. So how many do you need?

In my opinion, most sport flyers will be well served for a long time with a
6 channel entry to mid level sport computer radio. If you are a more serious

sailplane pilot or contest flyer, you probably want a minimum of 7 channels
and support for a 4 servo wing. ( more on 4 servo wings later)

AEAJR
09-19-2006, 01:24 AM
Continued

Basic Features

Most currently available new computer radios offer the following features.
Regardless of what you are flying, I highly recommend your radio have these
features.

* Model Memories
* Low Battery Warning
* Digital Trims
* Timer ( one or more )
* End Point Adjustment/Adjustable Travel Volume
* Dual Rates on ailerons and elevator; rudder is optional.
* Elevon and V-tail mixes


Minimum Recommended Surface Mixes

After model memories, surface mixes are one of the great features that
computer radios bring to the game. Input to one control can move 2 or more
servos in a coordinated fashion to create the kind of surface control you
are looking for. This can reduce the pilot's workload while providing very
consistent behavior. In most cases, when it makes sense, these mixes can be
overridden during the flight or can be turned on and off.

The following list is what I would consider the minimum set I would want in
a radio that would be used for flying sailplanes, be it thermal or slope.
Where two surfaces are listed, the first is the master and the second
follows it. I will discuss these in more detail later, but wanted to get
the list part stated up front as people are usually looking for these lists.
Most are focused on planes with ailerons or full house planes, but I note
where even simpler planes can benefit.

* Exponential on aileron and elevator. Rudder would be a plus.
( all planes)
* Flapperon/Spoileron - requires two aileron servos on separate channels
* Aileron differential - requires two aileron servos on separate channels
* Aileron-rudder mix ( coordinated turns )
* Flap or spoiler to elevator mixing for landing and glide path control.
Very useful on RES, REF or full house planes.

The goal of these mixes is to make the plane easier to fly more smoothly,
more efficiently with less drag and more controllability. In addition we
gain some level of glide path control to assist with landing accuracy or to
help us get out of booming thermals. With these tools you can have a more
enjoyable sport flying experience or be more competitive than would be
easily achievable with a standard radio.


More Advanced Mixes

These would typically be activated by a switch, dial or other control when
needed. You could go through the entire flight and not use these but they
give you that extra measure of control or convenience that you may desire.
Note, that many computer radios have "free" or user definable mixes so you
may be able to create a mix that is not specifically listed, but don't
assume
that is the case. Check to see if that free mix can do what you want.

* Flight modes such as launch, cruise, speed, landing, thermal, etc
* Camber Control -
moves the whole trailing edge at once to reshape the wing
* Elevator-flap or snap flaps
Helpful on thermal planes and very desirable on slope racers
* Crow/butterfly/airbrakes - helps with precision landing

These mixes are mostly focused on changing the shape of the wing during
flight which changes the wings's lift/drag characteristics. Since we are
flying without a motor, the ability to "retune" the wing to the needs of the
moment can be very helpful in getting the most out of the current lift
conditions or getting out of a bad situation. These would all likely be
able to be turned on and off during the flight so that we can use them
according to the situation.

For example, if you have flaps and ailerons, a launch mix might drop the
flaps 20 degrees and the ailerons 10 degrees giving your wing a more
undercambered shape. This might also include some up or down elevator,
depending on your plane. This generates tons of lift but also creates more
drag. While this might be detrimental during normal fight, when you have
the force of the hi-start or the winch pulling your plane up, you can afford
this extra drag to gain higher launches.

Having launch set up as a flight condition means that you flip a switch and
the plane's surfaces move to a predetermined position for launch. Just
before you finish the climb, you flip that switch off to go into normal
flight/cruise mode. Quick, easy and convenient surface control activated by
as switch. While you might be able to do some of this on a standard radio,
the work load would be high and getting consistent behavior would be much
harder. Computer radios make it easy!


The Four Servo Wing

One of the features that I feel sets apart the "sport radios" from the
"advanced " radios is the ability to directly address all four wing servos,
each on its own channel. The sport radios can fly a plane with 4 servos in
the wing, but they require that the flaps be on one channel through the use
of a Y cable. This means that you have 4 servos but you are controlling them
as if they were 3 servos. Where the 4 servo wing support comes in handy is
in trimming and in aileron-flap mixing. There may be others, but these are
where I have used this capability.

Typically you won't find this on a radio with less than seven channels, and
most have eight or more channels. Read the manual or the specs and look
for this feature. If you don't see it mentioned, look for how flaps are
set-up. If both flap servos are assigned to the same channel, you don't have
4 wing servo control.

When you have both flaps on a Y cable you must trim them mechanically to
get them synchronized. This can be done but it can be tricky and time
consuming. It is very important that the flaps move together. If one flap
moves further than the other anywhere through its throw it will tend to
cause the plane to roll left or right making the plane more difficult to
control. Flap trimming can be done using servo arm/control horn arm
placement, making sure the control rods are the same length and by adjusting
the clevis screws to get them even. Then you can trim the flaps together
using the radio to get that final zero point and the end point for down
flaps.

However if you can address each flap individually from the radio you can do
final trimming from the radio, which is a great convenience. You can also
use an aileron/flap mix to have the flaps follow the ailerons for more, or
smoother roll authority. I use this on my planes. This is not a necessary
feature but if you are going to invest in a "serious" sailplane radio, you
will want to be able to address the four wing servos individually.


Signal Options

Here we are talking about the ability to change:

* Channels
* Frequency band
* Signal shift
* PCM

Channel changing comes in handy if you are flying at a busy field and
frequently run into conflicts that would keep you on the ground. If you
can change the channel of your radio and receiver, you can switch to an
unused channel and continue to fly. This is typically accomplished either
by changing a channel module on the radio or by the use of a frequency
synthesizer. Either way, the change takes a few seconds. Put a matching
crystal in your receiver and you are good to go!

This can be extremely valuable if you do any serious contest flying as
participation at some contests mandate no more than one flyer per channel.
If someone else registers on your channel first, you may be locked out. If
you can change channels, you simply switch to an open channel.

If you tend to travel to other countries to compete your home frequency,
such as 72 MHz in North America, may not be permissible in that country. In
the
UK, for example, they fly in 35 MHz. If your radio allows you to change
frequency modules to the local band, then pickup a receiver on the local
frequency band and be all set to fly with the radio you know so well.

Signal shift, or shift select, is the ability to switch between positive and
negative shift. Shift simply describes how the signal is encoded. I am not
going to go any
deeper into than that.

Shift select becomes valuable primarily in the purchase of used equipment.
If you fly Hitec or Futaba, for example, these are typically negative shift
radios in North America. If you were to buy an Airtronics receiver, or a
plane that has a JR receiver, these are typically positive shift. You could
not use them with your negative shift radio. However if your radio can
perform shift select, you can have the radio transmit in the shift that the
receiver understands. It won't make your plane fly any better but it may
give you flexibility in the equipment you buy.

PCM is a special signal process that many fliers feel give them superior
control and glitch resistance. I can't comment on the validity of this but
many serious contest pilots use PCM receivers. If your radio has a PCM
feature, then you can use FM/PPM or FM/PCM receivers, at your option.
Again, this is a matter of flexibility and choice. Even if you don't plan
to fly using PCM today, you might want it in the future.

More on Mixes

Let's walk through a flight and see where some of this mix stuff might be
used.

We have our plane set up on a 6 channel computer radio. We have the
following features and mixes enabled and active all the time.

* Exponential on aileron and elevator
If you want to better understand Expo, take a look at this article:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331087 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331087)

* Aileron differential -
Up aileron goes up more than the down goes down.
Less drag as well as other benefits

* Aileron-rudder mix
by automatically adding rudder to the ailerons we get a smoother,
more efficient turn reducing drag and enhancing control.

* Flap-elevator mix for landing.
Automatically helps keep the plane level when we apply the flaps
as we are landing.

Time to launch!

- We flip that switch for our launch setting. Flaps come down maybe
20 degrees and the ailerons come down 10 degrees. We launch the plane and
send
it up the launch line. At the top of the launch we will turn this off so
that we are in normal cruise mode. We are now 400-600 feet up and looking
for lift.

Let's go hunting!

We spot some lift and we start to circle. We might flip on Elevator-flap
mix, so when we pull up elevator we get a tiny bit of flap to help us climb
smoothly in a thermal. Or we might turn on a "thermal" flight mode mix to
slightly droop the flaps and ailerons to give the wing a bit more lift. We
climb high and enjoy the ride.

We lose the lift so we turn off our thermaling mix and go hunting again.
We hit some fast falling air; sink. We want to run through some sink, so we
flip our camber/reflex preset and the flaps and ailerons move up a little to
reflex
position and the plane moves quickly through the sink. When we are in more
buoyant
air we flip this off.

We catch some lift and circle up again. We turn our thermaling mixes on.

We have been in this thermal for 20 minutes or so. We might be at 1000 feet
and have ridden the thermal about 1/2 of a mile down wind. Time to head
home
and prepare to land.

During our return run we will fly in cruise or we might turn on that
reflex preset again to help us penetrate through the head wind.
Remember we have no motor so we are flying upwind in a glide.

As we approach the field we want to have more energy than we need
to make it to the landing mark because a gust might hit us, or we might hit
some sink and lose altitude fast, causing us to fall short. Best to come
in
with more energy than we need.

As we get close to the landing zone and are confident, we can start to use
that flap-elevator landing mix, or perhaps the crow mix, to help us slow
down and
bleed off altitude without gaining too much speed. As we judge our speed we
may we may use a partial landing mix or go to a full landing position to
really put on the breaks.

We might control this landing mix from a switch, from a dial, or more
commonly f rom the "throttle" stick. As we pull back, we deploy more and
more of the
surfaces to slow us down.

If we have judged the wind, the plane and the field correctly, and have used
our radio with skill, we come to a nice soft landing right on the mark and
score this as a successful flight.

Cool?


Summary

While you can fly most sailplanes on a simple three or four channel standard
radio, the use of a computer radio can provide enhanced control. The
incremental cost is small and the benefits are large.

This is all fun and exciting stuff, but consider your goals and ambition for
your flying. Consider the types of planes you will be flying and which
features your radio might need. Only then can you start to determine which
radio is right for you at a price you can afford.

It takes time and work to learn how to use the advanced features of any
radio and how they work with YOUR planes. However you can still use most of
these advanced radios as simple 4 channel radios in the beginning. If you
can afford the investment, having those advanced features my allow you to
move into the more advance flying more quickly.

If you are a sport pilot out to have some soaring fun, a 6 channel entry
level or mid range sport computer radio is probably a good choice. But if
you want to get all you can out of your planes, or if you plan to join in
the fun of contest flying, then buy a feature rich radio of 7 or more
channels that has 4 wing servo support. You will pay a bit more up front
but your radio will carry you further into the future.

Consider your needs, wants, desires and your budget. Buy all the
radio you can afford today, then learn to use it and go enjoy flying your
sailplane.

Clear Skies and Safe Flying!

==========================
Here are some additional resources that you may also find helpful.

No need to buy a Used Radio
http://www.rctower.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1251#1251 (http://www.rctower.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1251#1251)

What you need to know about receivers:
http://www.rchangout.com/forums/radio-electronics-motors-and-accessories/t-what-you-need-to-know-about-receivers-12151.html (http://www.rchangout.com/forums/radio-electronics-motors-and-accessories/t-what-you-need-to-know-about-receivers-12151.html)

Hitec Optic 6 - Set-up for a full house TD glider
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=539473#post5717294 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=539473#post5717294)

What mixes do you use?
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=290071 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=290071)

This is more for competition pilots, but if you like to look
at some of the advanced stuff, this might be fun. It is a translation,
so take your time as you read it.
http://www.gliders.dk/triming_and_setup_of_a_glider_wi_eng.htm (http://www.gliders.dk/triming_and_setup_of_a_glider_wi_eng.htm)

AEAJR
09-19-2006, 01:29 AM
Radios with 4 Servo Wing Support

If you are going to fly full house gliders with an eye toward competition,
or advanced aerobatic planes, consider these your entry level radios. The
ability to address the flaps on individual channels provides more
flexability to trim them. This also allows you to reassign their function
so that they can follow the ailerons to give you greater roll authority.
These are still not true sailplane radios but they now have enough
capability to meet the needs of advanced sport glider pilots flying full
house pure or electric gliders. I also consider these as entry level
competition sailplane radios.

Polk Tracker III - 8 Channel -$225 with receiver
http://216.86.38.243/POLKS/items.asp?CartId={C9EVERESTE199AF-A985-472F-8F4A-4DAB7BF1060D}&Cc=RC&Bc (http://216.86.38.243/POLKS/items.asp?CartId={C9EVERESTE199AF-A985-472F-8F4A-4DAB7BF1060D}&Cc=RC&Bc)=
http://www.rcgroups.com/4259 (http://www.rcgroups.com/4259)
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=594 (http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=594)
8 Channel, 99 model memory, shift select, freq synth, Unique Safety Scanner
to avoid channel conflict, Timer, Exponential, EPA, DR, 4 standard mixes
and 3 user mixes, switch assignability. Package includes one standard size
synth
receiver ( no crystals needed), one standard size servo. I have not tried it
but I understand this radio will support 4 wing servos on 4 individual
channels which can be addressed via user programmable mixes.


Hitec Eclipse 7 - $210 - for the radio with Spectra module - no
servo/receiver
http://www.servocity.com/html/7-ch_eclipse_systems.html (http://www.servocity.com/html/7-ch_eclipse_systems.html)
http://www.hitecrcd.com/Radios/eclipse.htm (http://www.hitecrcd.com/Radios/eclipse.htm)
manual
http://www.hitecrcd.com/product_fs.htm (http://www.hitecrcd.com/product_fs.htm)
7 channels - 7 model memory, Shift select, 3 conditional mixes per model,
Channel change module or optional Spectra frequency synth, Five user
programmable mixes, conditional mixes, a variety of predefined mixes.
It is distinguished from the group above in that it has support
for a 4 servo wing and perhaps a mix or two more at $180.
Hitec is also coming out with a 2.4 GHz module for their radios
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3986179/tm.htm (http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3986179/tm.htm)

Futaba 9C Super - about $350 with receiver
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHMD0**&P=ML (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHMD0**&P=ML)
http://www.futaba-rc.com/radios/futk75.html (http://www.futaba-rc.com/radios/futk75.html)
http://www.allerc.com/product_info.php?cPath=42&products_id=754 (http://www.allerc.com/product_info.php?cPath=42&products_id=754)
http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4600 (http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4600)

Futaba transmitter feature chart
http://www.futaba-rc.com/radios/feature-compare.html (http://www.futaba-rc.com/radios/feature-compare.html)

Futaba 9C Super has replaced the 9C that I own, though some places still
have the 9C. 9C Super has unlimited model memories via removable modules, 7
User programmable Mixes + 8 defined mixes, 4 snap roll programs, two servo
elevator support, 4 servo wing support, customizable trainer program and
switch assignability. This is a very flexible radio.

Unless you have a large budget, I would not consider this a first radio. If
you have outgrown your entry level or intermediate computer radio and want a
significant jump in capabilities, take a look at the Futaba 9C Super.
This is an advanced sport radio, or a budget competition radio, that has
virtually all of the features that advanced sport power and sailplane
pilots are likely to need. It has a very strong following.

Channel Synth module for the 9C and 9C Super
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=542 (http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=542)
Hitec is coming out with a 2.4 GHz module for their Optic 6, Prism 7X and
Eclipse 7 as well as the Futaba 9C
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3986179/tm.htm (http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3986179/tm.htm)

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$400 and up for the radio alone

Royal Evo 9 Channel - $520 w/synth module
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEXV7&P=ML (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEXV7&P=ML)
http://www.multiplexusa.com/Radios/royal-evo-9.htm (http://www.multiplexusa.com/Radios/royal-evo-9.htm)
http://www.multiplexusa.com/Radios/RoyalevoChart.htm (http://www.multiplexusa.com/Radios/RoyalevoChart.htm)
http://www.rc-soar.com/multiplex/mpxevo/evo.htm (http://www.rc-soar.com/multiplex/mpxevo/evo.htm)

Airtronics Stylus - 8 Channel -$440
Optional sailplane card - $120
http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=772 (http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=772)
http://www.airtronics.net/stylus.htm (http://www.airtronics.net/stylus.htm)

JR 9303 - $450
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=JRP9269 (http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=JRP9269)**
reviews
http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4643 (http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4643)
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=515 (http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=515)


If I was going to buy an new sailplane radio I would buy the JR9303 or the Royal Evo 9.

zerts
09-20-2006, 01:39 AM
I work 7 days a week, but I can take time off whenever to pursue my 2 hobbies once in a while. So I have a lot of disposable income. This a new hobby. My long-time main hobby is actually bicycling. At the risk of sounding sappy, I am overwhelmed by the friendly, expert advice given in this forum. The bicycling forum that I have frequented for years has many flame wars, really rude behavior mixed in with the good advice.

AEAJR
09-20-2006, 03:54 AM
I work 7 days a week, but I can take time off whenever to pursue my 2 hobbies once in a while. So I have a lot of disposable income. This a new hobby. My long-time main hobby is actually bicycling. At the risk of sounding sappy, I am overwhelmed by the friendly, expert advice given in this forum. The bicycling forum that I have frequented for years has many flame wars, really rude behavior mixed in with the good advice.

Welcome to the fun! :D

Jason T
09-20-2006, 04:22 PM
I also have the EVO 9 and love it.

zerts
09-20-2006, 10:38 PM
Well, I was wondering if it made sense to continue learning by getting a GWS Slow Stick, because some people were of the opinion that the stock Slo-V is only marginally flyable. I was wondering if it made sense to skip all the "intermediate" TX's and go for the EVO 9. I know that would be 'absurd' overkill for a Slow Stick, but would it make sense from my point of view? I could then start investing in basic sailplanes and upgrade to more advanced planes. That way, I would avoid the expense of "intermediate" TX's.

AEAJR
09-20-2006, 11:13 PM
Slow Stick is an excellent flyer so who ever told you it wasn't is wrong.

If you can afford an EVO9, go for it! If sailplanes is the key focus, also look at the JR 9303. Between those two you can't go wrong.

zerts
09-20-2006, 11:50 PM
AEAJR- Sorry for the confusion. I meant to say the Park Zone Slo-V was the not-so-good first plane. There were 2 guys at the park flying GWS Slow Sticks, and they highly recommended the Slow Stick. They were using Spektrum 6 TX's.

ragbag
09-21-2006, 01:44 AM
AEAJR- Sorry for the confusion. I meant to say the Park Zone Slo-V was the not-so-good first plane. There were 2 guys at the park flying GWS Slow Sticks, and they highly recommended the Slow Stick. They were using Spektrum 6 TX's.

The Spektrum is a fine radio, for park flyers. Not gliders. It does not have the range or at least they say it doesn't in the specs.
Many will come on line and disagree with me, that they have tested it and all that junk.
If the manufacterer doesn't recommend it why bother.

As AEAJR said go for the Multiplex Royal Evo 9. The Futaba 9XXX class is very good. Also JR radios.

Any of the above named radios to fly the Slow Stik would be like taking Richard Petty"s car to get a quart of milk. BUT, When you get that Whiz Bang Glider, flaps, spoilers and all the bells and whistles you will need one of the above named radios.

Just happens to be that I am locked in on Futaba. That is what I was advised to go with. Some day I will bite the bullet and sell the Futaba and go with the Multiplex. All I use are Hitec or Berg receivers and Hitec servos.

Have fun.:)

Comments: When I said Futaba, it should have been Futaba's, Skysport, 6E, 6X and 9C. Spektrum DX6.




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