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Water Boy
09-24-2006, 04:36 AM
Has anyone built or seen this plane? Really like the looks and would like to try it. The thing is I don't know anything about it. So I figured I would come and ask you guys.
Thanks for any info!
Harry
P.S. Got this from Fiddler's Paper Models

Sky Sharkster
09-25-2006, 07:56 AM
Hello Harry, Welcome to Wattflyer! The Morane Saulnier "Bullet" type "N" is a pretty famous plane in aviation history. Have you heard the stories about the early attempts to fit a machine gun to an aircraft? How they tried firing through the prop blades, shot their own prop off? Then they fitted metal plates to the back of the blades to deflect the ones that didn't "miss" the prop. These had a nasty habit of coming straight back!
Well, those stories are true and the M.S. "N" is that plane! Some of the shots did make it through the whirling blades and French aviator Roland Garros is credited with 4 "Kills" using this system, before he was forced down behind enemy lines and captured.
The aircraft was brought to Anthony Fokker for inspection; He took one look at the firing system and began work on an "interruptor" gear that stopped the machine gun (briefly) when the prop blades were in front of the gun, later refered to as the "synchronized machine gun".
Fokker fitted this "interruptor" to his latest design, the E-III, and it became a very deadly single-wing fighter.
Here's more info on the type "N", also the Rhinebeck site has a color photo of a replica in the hanger.
http://www.constable.ca/bullet.htm
http://www.oldrhinebeck.org/collection/airplanes/Morane%20Saulnier%20N.htm

Good Flying!
Ron

Water Boy
09-25-2006, 04:19 PM
Thanks for the info Ron. Its kinda funny how these days people look back at situations like this and say " Those guys were'nt very smart, putting a gun on a plane and shotting the prop off.". When in all actuality these were the pioneers of the modern fighter jets and bombers. Its easy to ridicule someone for this when we such hitech planes, but they need to relise that the plane had only been around for a handful of years prior to the war and were orignaly used for recon. Thanks to Fokker and other inventors/aviators of the day, we have the great and beautiful planes we have today. My hats off to them.

As far as the plane goes have you ever seen an RC version?
Harry

Sky Sharkster
09-25-2006, 05:48 PM
Hi Harry, I've never seen an R/C model of the type "N" but there's a thread on RCG about a flyer that built one by scaling up the same "Fiddlers" paper model; http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=363038
He's got it flying with a GWS IPS motor and apparently it flys well.
Also there's a set of good 3 views here;
http://membres.lycos.fr/wings2/3vues/3vues.html scroll to "M"
Don't see why it wouldn't fly OK, maybe have to enlarge the tail surfaces a bit. That round fuselage might be more work than usual but not impossible. There are kits of the "L" type, the parasol was an easier construction, especially the fuselage.
If you're interested in these type models, check out this link. They don't have the "N" but lots of other WWI models including 2 sizes of the "L".
http://www.aerodromerc.com/
Also Hobby-Lobby.com had a very similar foam ARF a few years ago called the "Fatty Sparrow", actually 2 models, a biplane and a mid-wing monoplane that was a near-ringer for the "Bullet".
Good Luck!
Ron

pd1
10-10-2006, 11:19 PM
Went to Old Rhinbeck last weekend, Here's some shots of this plane.
Might help?