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charly
09-27-2006, 04:35 PM
Hi,

I'm after a dlg and wanted to see if anyone had some good recommendations. I guess the GP fling is an obvious starter but what else is out there?

Thanks in advance charly

Sky Sharkster
09-28-2006, 03:39 AM
Hello Charly, Welcome to Wattflyer! There are literally dozens of DLG's available, from "builders kit" like the Mountain Models/LaserArts 'Quick Flick 2" at about $70.00 to the PoleCat Aero XP-4 at slightly over $400, or the "Encore" (Maple Leaf Design) for $450. Most are in the $150-$300 range. Many of the higher priced models are partial or complete composite construction. The lower priced models generally have traditional built-up construction with (usually) carbon spars and C/F fuselages. So the flyers' budget and experience level has a lot to do with the selection. As with all thermal flying, the pilot skill is the main factor.
One of the better DLG's I've seen that falls into the "lower" price range is the "Hyper DL" from Art Hobby
http://www.arthobby.com/shop.html
In the same general price range is a good "Built-up" model, the "Apache" From Soaring USA http://www.soaringusa.com/products/product.htm?product_id=16162&category_id=294
Moving up in price is the "Enigma" from NESail
http://www.nesail.com/categories.php?subcatID=32&PHPSESSID=990fdb50db6d5f8073a807d34f0c9edf
Also the "DLG D-Box" from Esprit
http://www.espritmodel.com/
Another very good one but higher-priced is the all-composite "Sonic"
from Vladimirs Models. http://www.airplane-model.com/sonic.html
And a great Joe Wurts design from Maple Leaf Design, the "Encore"
http://www.mapleleafdesign.com/
Here's a few more links;
http://polecataero.com/products/xp4
http://66.246.100.117/product_info.php?cPath=25_28&products_id=205
There's lots more, check out the links here;
http://www.fatlion.com/sailplanes/links.html
Good Luck and have fun!
Ron

charly
09-28-2006, 09:12 AM
Thanks Ron lots to look at there:)

Jason T
09-28-2006, 11:55 AM
What Ron said.:)

charly
09-28-2006, 01:22 PM
I think postage cost will be a bit high on thoose:mad: . I'm over the pond:p in the UK. Any comments on these.....
http://www.acemodel.co.uk/dlg.html
http://www.south-coast-sailplanes.com/pages/dlg.asp
http://www.sloughrc.com/pages/Products/Aircraft/SRCM-AircraftGliders.asp

Thanks charly

Sky Sharkster
09-29-2006, 02:04 AM
Hi Charly, I didn't realize you were in the U.K., would have given you some links that were closer, like this one;
http://www.rcsail.com/manufacturers.html Sent in by Tim Hooper, there's also a page of glider links on page 4 of this Forum, more from Tim. http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5256
Now, unless these are the same models as ones sold here under different names (it happens!) I'll just be offering an "outsiders" opinion on the links you posted.
Radina- I like this model's specs, looks. The SD7080 is a very good wing airfoil but I'm partial to the Selig/Donavan profiles anyway. The weight is near-perfect, 10-11 ounces RTF is about the heaviest I'd care to go.
On the South Coast site some of the weights seemed heavy to me. The one that caught my eye here is the Gladiator, about 9 ounces and MH32 airfoil is a good combination.
The Garnet is a real beauty, simple, clean design, light, good airfoil. Bet this one flys well!
On the Slough site, the Salsa flys pretty well, it was sold here (by NESail I believe) for a time, might still be available. Without the RTF weight, airfoil and specs it's hard to comment.
Guess you need to find someone closer to home to give you a real flying evaluation, hope one of our U.K. readers respond!
Good Luck!
Ron

ragbag
09-29-2006, 03:27 AM
Look at Mountain models, they have a couple of DLG's.

http://www.mountainmodels.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=dlg&osCsid=1d749db1cd1200e0afaba9fb7e8a2197&x=4&y=3





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AEAJR
10-03-2006, 11:06 PM
Many of the models I list below have videos of them being launched and
flown. Most are kits, some are ARF, and one is an RTF. Typically the ones
over $200 are ARF composite construction planes. More competition
oriented planes typically range over $300.


FLYING WING ELEVON STYLE DLGs
These are typically more of a side arm launched plane. They do not normally
have a peg in the wing. They are not typically seen in serious competition
but a good pilot can thermal them right along with the other DLGs. The do
tend to be fairly rugged. I have the boomer which I side arm launch and fly
off the slope in light lift. Lots of fun.

Boomer EX2 - SLG flying wing - This is the one I brought to the meeting.
Reported to thermal very well, easy transport in car, good for light slope
lift Product has been taken over by Mountain Models
www.mountainmodels.com (http://www.mountainmodels.com)
http://www.mountainmodels.com/product_info.php?cPath=25_28&products_id=349&osCsid=d689468d37e2737a4dbe422910fb6a94 (http://www.mountainmodels.com/product_info.php?cPath=25_28&products_id=349&osCsid=d689468d37e2737a4dbe422910fb6a94)
This is a product review - be sure to watch the video
at the end of the review
http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4524 (http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4524)
Second Video
http://www.stocker.rchomepage.com/Boomhivis2_0002.wmv (http://www.stocker.rchomepage.com/Boomhivis2_0002.wmv)

Red Herring - SLG Flying wing - $60
Very light wing loading
available as EPP for added slope capability
or lighter EPS with protective nose cap at 2 oz wing loading
http://www.liftworx.com/pages/redherring.html (http://www.liftworx.com/pages/redherring.html)
Video
http://www.liftworx.com/videoclips/redherring.html (http://www.liftworx.com/videoclips/redherring.html)

Alula - SLG Flying Wing $45
interesting forward swept wing design
EPP foam with removable tail.
http://www.dream-flight.com/alula.html (http://www.dream-flight.com/alula.html)
Review - Starts on Page 24
http://www.b2streamlines.com/RCSD-2004-10.pdf (http://www.b2streamlines.com/RCSD-2004-10.pdf)


RUDDER/ELEVATOR STYLE DLGs
- Some have video links on their pages
- One is a RTF plane
Quick build and a simple 2 channel radio can put you in the sky with one of
these.

Quick Flick 2 - $69
Built up balsa wings - Kit
http://www.mountainmodels.com/product_info.php?cPath=25_28&products_id=205 (http://www.mountainmodels.com/product_info.php?cPath=25_28&products_id=205)

Mountain Models DL50 - $70-kit
This will probably be my next one
http://www.mountainmodels.com/DL50.php (http://www.mountainmodels.com/DL50.php)
http://www.mountainmodels.com/product_info.php?cPath=25_28&products_id=212 (http://www.mountainmodels.com/product_info.php?cPath=25_28&products_id=212)
Review
http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4542 (http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4542)
Build thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=531574 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=531574)

The Gambler+ = $70 - Kit
http://www.wrightbrothersrc.com/our_kits/gambler.htm (http://www.wrightbrothersrc.com/our_kits/gambler.htm)
http://www.rcgroups.com/4506 (http://www.rcgroups.com/4506)

Swyft - $89 kit - smaller than the ones above
This one breaks down for easy transport
This is similar to what Dan Siegel flies
http://www.liftworx.com/swyft/ (http://www.liftworx.com/swyft/)
http://www.liftworx.com/videoclips/swyftflight.html (http://www.liftworx.com/videoclips/swyftflight.html)
Discussion Thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=399401 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=399401)

Spinner DLG - $90
This is EPP based so it should be very rugged
It can be a bit heavy compared to other DLGs
http://www.mountainmodels.com/product_info.php?cPath=25_28&products_id=180 (http://www.mountainmodels.com/product_info.php?cPath=25_28&products_id=180)

NSP Calysto $139 - ARF
http://www.nesail.com./detail.php?productID=2955 (http://www.nesail.com./detail.php?productID=2955)

MiSAL - RTF - $300
This comes all built including all electronics on your channel of
choice. You add the radio and go! They also sell radios to go with it if
you like
http://www.edgerc.com/MiSAL%20DLG.htm (http://www.edgerc.com/MiSAL DLG.htm)


AILERON/ELEVATOR/RUDDER STYLE DLGs

Sport DLGs

Art Hobby Bobolink $91 Kit
1 M wing span - smaller than the others.
Select from super light weight HLG/DLG menu
http://www.arthobby.com/shop.html (http://www.arthobby.com/shop.html)

Great Planes Fling - $99
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXKAG3&P=ML (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXKAG3&P=ML)
Review
Fling DLG - Review
http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4944 (http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4944)
Discussion
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=545861 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=545861)
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=499663&highlight=Fling+DLG (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=499663&highlight=Fling+DLG)

NSP Huron - ARF $128
http://www.nesail.com./detail.php?productID=760 (http://www.nesail.com./detail.php?productID=760)

NSP Apache - ARF $139
http://www.nesail.com./detail.php?productID=1178 (http://www.nesail.com./detail.php?productID=1178)

ArtHobby Hyper DL $131 Kit
http://www.arthobby.com/shop.html (http://www.arthobby.com/shop.html)

Art Hobby Hybrid DL $160
http://www.arthobby.com/shop.html (http://www.arthobby.com/shop.html)

HobbyClub Salsa (aka Salmoe) $179
http://www.hobbyclub.com/salsahlg.htm (http://www.hobbyclub.com/salsahlg.htm)
Review
http://www.hobbyclub.com/rcmsalsa_dhlg.htm (http://www.hobbyclub.com/rcmsalsa_dhlg.htm)


High Performance DLGs

Hyper DLG $290
http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=3059 (http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=3059)

Arrow Sport- $300
http://www.pacificgliderworks.com/arrowpro.html (http://www.pacificgliderworks.com/arrowpro.html)
Build thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=540196 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=540196)

Enigma $ 310
http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=1179 (http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=1179)

Photon - $350
Rudder/Elevator/Flap 3 piece wing
http://www.kennedycomposites.com/ (http://www.kennedycomposites.com/)

Blaster - $350
http://www.kennedycomposites.com/blaster.html (http://www.kennedycomposites.com/blaster.html)

Arrow Pro- $380
http://www.pacificgliderworks.com/arrowpro.html (http://www.pacificgliderworks.com/arrowpro.html)
Build thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=540196 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=540196)

Polecat XP-4 $400
Many of the Top flyers at the 2006 NATs flew the X_-4
http://polecataero.com/products/xp4 (http://polecataero.com/products/xp4)

Fireworks III - $450
http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=4957 (http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=4957)
http://www.isthmusmodels.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_27&products_id=190 (http://www.isthmusmodels.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_27&products_id=190)

Super Gee
If you are wiling to take on a scratch build, this is one of the leaders
http://www.charlesriverrc.org/articles/supergee/SuperGeeII.htm (http://www.charlesriverrc.org/articles/supergee/SuperGeeII.htm)
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=545273 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=545273)


Hi-Start Launch?

Some people do put a tow hook on the bottom and use very light hi-starts to
launch them as well. Then you can get them up 200-300 feet and hunt for
lift from there. At 200+ feet you can get quite a flight even with no lift.

While a hi-start is not normally the way you would launch one of these,
there is nothing to keep you from putting a hook in the plane and taking it
up to very high launches off a light hi-start.

Fling hi-start - $13
Intended for the Fling HLG
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHMZ3&P=7 (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHMZ3&P=7)

Dynaflite up start - $25
This is not advertised for HLG/DLGs but I expect you could add more line and
get a great launch with this. It says it will launch a 100" sailplane but
don't you believe it. We have had a hard time getting one of these to take
up a 2M plane. Should be safe considering the forces of a DLG launch.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXE637&P=7 (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXE637&P=7)

If you are new glider pilot, this is a great resource:
http://forums.flyesl.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=224 (http://forums.flyesl.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=224)

charly
10-04-2006, 07:52 AM
Wow Thanks:)