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Foamiesrfun
09-11-2005, 07:43 PM
okay I can hover, ,torque roll do flat spins,spins,KE,KE loop,Harrier,tail slides, Pogo, Blender(as well as the plane will do it) Untill Im tired of it.

okay since I'm tired of doing the same things over and over I need a new chalange. does anyone have any idea on something new I could learn?

I have been working on my rolling circles and are better but really cant pratice them in my yard I run out of room.so something that doesnt take much room.

I really dont have any idea.what all manevers are they? since Im here what is IMAC flying? isnt that like pattern but with big aircraft where everything is done Just perfect? what moves do they fly? maybe I could partice some of them thanks.

Or is there any other type of flying.

maybe I have just come to the end ? LOL :D

fdix
09-11-2005, 09:40 PM
Try flying a sequence of figures you know, if you need some inspiration for new figures watch TOC videos!

If you think you've come to an end with foamies and have lots of cash burning in your pocket get a 40% plane and start real aerobatics :D

Foamiesrfun
09-11-2005, 09:43 PM
Try flying a sequence of figures you know, if you need some inspiration for new figures watch TOC videos!

If you think you've come to an end with foamies and have lots of cash burning in your pocket get a 40% plane and start real aerobatics :D

I wish I had the money.I would be flying not sure about 40% but something close to it. I have flown glow forever and used to pratice the pattern manuvers but never entered.Just couldnt get interested enough in it I guess.

fdix
09-11-2005, 10:13 PM
I wish I had the money.I would be flying not sure about 40% but something close to it. I have flown glow forever and used to pratice the pattern manuvers but never entered.Just couldnt get interested enough in it I guess.

Yeah pattern gets boring after a while. This is why I like F3A-X or artistic aerobatics: you have all the freestyle parts in the middle that are great fun.
I have to say that I don't fly 40% machines :( this for a simple reason: where I live we have one field at one hours drive where we could fly large aircraft. The problem is that it is an ex military airport and used for all kinds of stuff so we can't count to fly there every weekend. And because in aerobatics practice is everything, flying now and then doesn't make much sense.
So I'll just have to go on with 1.5-2m size electrics and foamies.

loker
09-14-2005, 04:15 AM
Hey man, Im in the same boat you are, and believe me, you're so far from the end you couldn't see it with the hubble telescope. I can do all that you mentioned and more, but that stuff is nothing compared to this. I am working on the rolling harrier, almost got it down. after that, rolling harrier circle, and then, this one should take you a couple years to begin to learn, the reverse rolling harrier circle. these are the maneuvers I saw in Toledo Ohio at the ETOC, where people like Josh Glavin, Quique Somenzini and Andrew Jesky performed. I read or heard from one of those world ranked pilots, that after he learned the rolling harrier circle, it took him another 600 hours over the course of 2 years to learn it in reverse. 600 hours just to reverse it! We're talking more practice time here than the pilot of a 747!! I hope this gives you some more to work on. you'll need to read detailed diagrams with precise explanations on how to execute these before you can even try them. good luck to you, your maneuvers, and definitely, your plane, cause I've lost count of the scratch built foamies I destroyed learning the rolling harrier. and although I can do a rolling harrier for about 10 to 15 seconds before losing orientation, the difference between that and mastering it is the world, so just imagine the reverse rolling harrier circle! I don't know if a lifetime of practice will get you that one down, for that skill, I think either you're born with the innate ability, or you're not.

Foamiesrfun
09-14-2005, 07:18 AM
Hey man, Im in the same boat you are, and believe me, you're so far from the end you couldn't see it with the hubble telescope. I can do all that you mentioned and more, but that stuff is nothing compared to this. I am working on the rolling harrier, almost got it down. after that, rolling harrier circle, and then, this one should take you a couple years to begin to learn, the reverse rolling harrier circle. these are the maneuvers I saw in Toledo Ohio at the ETOC, where people like Josh Glavin, Quique Somenzini and Andrew Jesky performed. I read or heard from one of those world ranked pilots, that after he learned the rolling harrier circle, it took him another 600 hours over the course of 2 years to learn it in reverse. 600 hours just to reverse it! We're talking more practice time here than the pilot of a 747!! I hope this gives you some more to work on. you'll need to read detailed diagrams with precise explanations on how to execute these before you can even try them. good luck to you, your maneuvers, and definitely, your plane, cause I've lost count of the scratch built foamies I destroyed learning the rolling harrier. and although I can do a rolling harrier for about 10 to 15 seconds before losing orientation, the difference between that and mastering it is the world, so just imagine the reverse rolling harrier circle! I don't know if a lifetime of practice will get you that one down, for that skill, I think either you're born with the innate ability, or you're not.

Okay what is a Reverse rolling circle harrier?

whats the driffrent between a rolling circle and a rolling Harrier circle?

A rolling circle is just wshen the plane is level and goes around in a circle w/o droping the nose correct?

and I would guess a rolling Harrier circle would be :
A rolling circle that the nose is upwards in a harrier mode the complete time? maybe even done at a slower speed?

Please let me know the driffrences.

Anyone is welcome to name a list of driffrent things also.

600 hours WOW but thats only 75 flights of 8 minutes. I can fly a 8 minute flight,but 75 is alot of flying.I think they must eat sleep and bath with a TX in there hand.
:eek:

loker
09-14-2005, 04:44 PM
ok, you're right about the rolling harrier circle, it's a rolling circle with nose up at 45-5o degrees, without letting it drop, and yes, pretty slow too. a regular rolling harrier circle would be to go along with the torque, which usually means rolling left. a reverse rolling harrier circle would be a rolling harrier circle going against the torque, like a reverse torque roll.

PS you said 600 hours would be 75 flights that are each 8 minutes, but that's only 600 minutes. 600 hours would be 4,500 flights that are 8 minutes each. that's why I said you probably never in your life would be able to do it. I don't think I will either, like I said, you have to be born with something special, like mozart was, or Bobby Fischer, the #1 chess player in the world, and why I said you are so far from the end that you couldn't see it with the hubble, now you see how hard it is? I guess now you probably won't even try. hehe. I don't even know if in my lifetime I'll get the rolling harrier circle, let alone reverse it. I just threw those out there cause you wanted a challenge.

PPS if you want to see these guys in action, you can buy the DVD from SKS video productions for 20 bucks online, at www.sksvideo.com (http://www.sksvideo.com) it's the ETOC(electric tournament of champions) and EX games 2005. I got it, and everyone I showed it to was amazed by it. also there are small clips around on the net of some of it too, if you search for them.

Foamiesrfun
09-14-2005, 06:51 PM
ok, you're right about the rolling harrier circle, it's a rolling circle with nose up at 45-5o degrees, without letting it drop, and yes, pretty slow too. a regular rolling harrier circle would be to go along with the torque, which usually means rolling left. a reverse rolling harrier circle would be a rolling harrier circle going against the torque, like a reverse torque roll.

PS you said 600 hours would be 75 flights that are each 8 minutes, but that's only 600 minutes. 600 hours would be 4,500 flights that are 8 minutes each. that's why I said you probably never in your life would be able to do it. I don't think I will either, like I said, you have to be born with something special, like mozart was, or Bobby Fischer, the #1 chess player in the world, and why I said you are so far from the end that you couldn't see it with the hubble, now you see how hard it is? I guess now you probably won't even try. hehe. I don't even know if in my lifetime I'll get the rolling harrier circle, let alone reverse it. I just threw those out there cause you wanted a challenge.

PPS if you want to see these guys in action, you can buy the DVD from SKS video productions for 20 bucks online, at www.sksvideo.com (http://www.sksvideo.com) it's the ETOC(electric tournament of champions) and EX games 2005. I got it, and everyone I showed it to was amazed by it. also there are small clips around on the net of some of it too, if you search for them.

Oh 600 HOURS. Goodnees sorry, i just misread I was tired when I reposted. that is alot of flying.

well My rolling circles are to the right rolling. Not that good tot he left yet.

but never really tried a rolling HArrier circle.I will have to try that.

Thanks I will try since now I know a new thing.Thanks thats what I was looking for. A new challange.

I dont know,I know Josh is a world class pilot hes in the top 10 I think:confused:
But If I had been flying 3D my past 15 years of flying I bet I could be a fvery very good pilot too.IO wasted my years just doing loops and rolls cause thats all that they was to do. No way you would ever take off and pull the nose stright up on a regular sweet stick big stick,unless you wanted to snap and go into the ground.
I taught myself 3D in 6 months or so.Am just getting better and betterbut I better hurry now before I'm 30 something it just go back down hill form there I guess.

I'm not braging that I'm the best 3D here by no means but am the best eletric 3D er out of the 2 clubs I am in. just wish i could afford those biger planes to pratice but I really think I could 3D anything I flew with a few flights.