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firemanbill
11-20-2006, 10:22 PM
I got home today and saw this mailer form hobbypeople! I was excited as usual to see what's out there but as soon as I picked it up I knew I was in trouble!!!:eek:

A 100 inch wingspan C-130!!!

http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/190130.asp

My priorities on the "next" plane have just changed...;)

Grasshopper
11-20-2006, 10:42 PM
I have always like the Coast Guard markings on those. They really look sharp. So when is yours do to arrive? What motors are you going to use? Details Bill, we need details.

ForestCam
11-20-2006, 10:42 PM
Heck, at only $450 why not get two? :D

firemanbill
11-20-2006, 11:00 PM
Heck, at only $450 why not get two? :D


That's the only thing holding me back right now, and that's without motors, esc's batteries, servos......:(

If I sold one of my V-dubs I could just about cover it...

vax6335
11-21-2006, 01:50 AM
Yes, only $450!

I may just have to scratch build one then....

alienx
11-22-2006, 02:51 AM
I liked that too. I posted around looking for a build thread or other info (or a video!), but I got no responses. I guess it is as new as the mailer. Looks nice!

herk_1
11-23-2006, 01:43 AM
Does it come with 1/15th scale trash to haul? :)

I want one of those. I'll have to build another room on to the house to store it though...

firemanbill
11-23-2006, 02:02 AM
Herk you could get this one whic is smaller, probably wouldn't require and addition to the home!

This is my EAM model and it flies like a dream!:D

herk_1
11-23-2006, 02:05 PM
I had to surf around and look for other pics/video of that model. It looks like you changed the radome and maybe even the cockpit to make it look more realistic...photos of other planes look kind of pug-nosed, almost like an early A model. SOS paint job, eh? Do you have some way of trimming the relative motor power left/right, like the power trim knob on an Aero Ace? Or maybe even some kind of separate engine thrust contol for turning when taxiing? (or does it have nose wheel steering?) There is a video on YouTube of the GWS C-130 being flown, and it looks like they were having trouble on landing because it would yaw to one side when they reduced the power beyond a certain point.

stinkweed007
11-23-2006, 02:22 PM
Heck, at only $450 why not get two? :D

Hey ForestCam... pick me up one too... hu hu... buddy pal...its the season of giving aint it??

Man... Thats a camera carrier if I EVER saw one!!! good thing they DON'T deliver internationally.. My gal would kill me..

firemanbill
11-23-2006, 02:48 PM
I had to surf around and look for other pics/video of that model. It looks like you changed the radome and maybe even the cockpit to make it look more realistic...photos of other planes look kind of pug-nosed, almost like an early A model. SOS paint job, eh? Do you have some way of trimming the relative motor power left/right, like the power trim knob on an Aero Ace? Or maybe even some kind of separate engine thrust contol for turning when taxiing? (or does it have nose wheel steering?) There is a video on YouTube of the GWS C-130 being flown, and it looks like they were having trouble on landing because it would yaw to one side when they reduced the power beyond a certain point.

The nose is from EAM, the new and improved version. It was just recently introduced and is a huge improvement over the first. I do in fact have nosewheel steering on it, set it up on the same servo as the rudder. it has one long control rod that goes from front to rear and secured in the center with a dubro micro connector. i have not had any problems with it yawing either way. With the power cut to idle basically it will glide down like a trainer. In fact it flies like a high wing trainer really. It is one of my easier flying models.

Here is a couple of vids. One is maiden day and the other is from the electrics over tidewater event here in Newport News Va, the 130 is in the the middle of it along with other planes. I won the award for best Military A/C at the event.

http://media.putfile.com/EAM-RC-C-130-maiden-Flight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXzAMSEYzDM

skiman762
11-24-2006, 02:16 AM
But Bill will it do a roll?:eek:

firemanbill
11-24-2006, 04:03 AM
But Bill will it do a roll?:eek:


I dunno ski but that Airliner sure will!:D

Grasshopper
11-24-2006, 04:06 AM
I dunno ski but that Airliner sure will!:D

As much as I have to travel on commercial airliners, I really don't like seeing one do a roll. :eek: LOL

skiman762
11-24-2006, 05:37 AM
I still wish we had got that one that on video it was a classic :D

firemanbill
11-24-2006, 01:30 PM
I still wish we had got that one that on video it was a classic :D


yup, she just about did it that day didn't she... unintentional or not!:eek:

WWI Ace
11-25-2006, 01:45 PM
You guys lied! You said it was $450. It's only $449.99!!!!

Aeroflyer
11-26-2006, 09:20 PM
Woa looks brilliant can't fly big things though to scary and i will lose it

Balsa Shavings
02-09-2007, 04:54 PM
If something like that showed up at my front door. Three thing would happen.

1. I would be happy as a kid at Chucky Cheese.
2. Wife would be mad as a one toothed rattlesnake.
3. I would be bunking with my dog, and she don't smell nearly as good as my wife. :D

Keep The Faith: Johnny

Spoonwasher
02-12-2007, 02:11 PM
Well, that is one awesome plane. Love the multi engine. Must sound great in the air. Now, if this thing would only cost me 450 plus hardware, that would be a bargin. I totalled my costs here and they stack up like this...
1- 450 for the kit,
2- probably another 500 for all the rest
3- 2000 to send the wife to the Carribean while the kit gets dlivered
4- 2000 to send her back...as roses just wouldn't do to smooth things over
Me with no B....- priceless ! ......
It is better to get forgiveness than to ask , as the answer is always " NO"....sometimes!
Anyone know a good Doctor that can sew these things back on as I'm thinking I might need one of these birds....but they're just a little price yet and I kinda like "all " my body parts attached!
Don

CHELLIE
02-12-2007, 08:01 PM
Hi Spoonwasher Hi Balsa Shavings :) Just do what Bubba Did,

Bubba was at a local bar in texas, He told all the guys that he was celebrating his 50th wedding anniversary,
All the guys asked him if he was going to do something special for his 50th anniversary,
Bubba said yep, sure am, In fact on my 25th anniversary I took my wife Ethel, to Phoenix Arizona,
For my 50th wedding Anniversary, I am going to Phoenix Arizona,
TO BRING HER BACK NOW :D :D :D

that will be a lot cheaper than sending her to the carribeans ;) and you will have more money left over for more planes. :D
Take care Chellie ;)



A sence of Humor is a terrible thing to waste :)

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 02:22 AM
where can you get one of the eam ones. the perfect brushless motors for it are four Bm2410-9 motors, that give 20 oz. of thrust on a three cell lipo. Oh and each motor only costs 6.39

firemanbill
01-02-2009, 02:24 AM
right here...

http://eam.net/EAMRC/skunkworks/C-130/C-130.htm

Here is mine.

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 02:41 AM
Very nice. How does it fly with those brushed motors? As I mentioned there are those brushless motors that are half as much as the brushed ones. Which is insane, and I have one on my reach whirlwind and it goes rocketlyishness. If you were going to use a 3s lipo, would you need a seperate lipo for each motor? Or is there like a 3s 3200mah lipo you can connect to all motors? I don't have acces to buy it over the internet by credit card.

firemanbill
01-02-2009, 02:55 AM
I have the Graupner 280's in mine and she has plenty of power. i run a single 3s 1650 pack in it and get about 8-10 minutes flying time.

How does it fly??? Watch my vids... I think it flies great!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knyPvOkQvVI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b7t5R4A5p0

Here was the maiden flight.
http://rcuvideos.com/video/C-130-wmv

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 03:07 AM
Its a beauty. I was thinking... (oh no hes thinking) you could make the outer two one dummy engines, with just props, and put like two park 370s on the inner motors. sounds like a plan! or plane!

firemanbill
01-02-2009, 03:10 AM
I'd say you'd have more than ample power doing that.

Just don't seem right though to not have 4 engines (motors) on a C-130 though;-):D

Dereck
01-02-2009, 03:15 AM
But if you're going to do a Herc - sorry, RAF speak for the C130 - properly, it would have to have a drop down ramp so the loadmaster (the guy in charge of the cargo bay) could stand out on the lowered ramp to watch out while the aircraft backs up on the ground.

Not sure where you get four ESCs with reverse thrust, but it would be spectacular. I did a couple of years on the Hercules simulator in my RAF days and backing out into a three point turn was the standard way to commence taxy out - aircraft were parking nose to the grass, for easy loading from the ramp centre.

Never heard of the Herc doing a roll, but who knows? Vulcan, Concord, Lancaster, Boeing 707 have all been rolled and none are that small... Of course, if you hovered one at a Top Wallet aerobatic meet, you'd be in every model mag in the nation :rolleyes:

regards

Dereck

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 03:15 AM
I'd say you'd have more than ample power doing that.

Just don't seem right though to not have 4 engines (motors) on a C-130 though;-):D

Yeah i guess. The idea of two motors was just to save money with motors and escs and all. I might as well look at the gws twin one. eewwww. Did you get yours from eam or hobby people? What wold be awesome to power this is to some how put a single eflite 480 motor on there.

dk_aero
01-02-2009, 05:40 AM
It's on sale now... $399.99! Oh, and don't forget the retracts... ($359.99) :rolleyes:




You guys lied! You said it was $450. It's only $449.99!!!!

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 04:19 PM
oh. I have been talking about the EAM one. Theres no way I'm getting this one thats 400

MaxAdventure
01-02-2009, 05:24 PM
... to watch out while the aircraft backs up on the ground.

Not sure where you get four ESCs with reverse thrust, but it would be spectacular. ....

Dereck

I'd love to do a scale plane with these:
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/variablepitch.htm

then you can back up!

I was wondering about mixing the pitch with the throttle, like a heli program, but it might put you in some bad situations.....

heck, if you can't find a commercial variable pitch prop good enough, you should be able to fit a heli tail rotor, you can even get 4-blade tail rotors, just match the shaft size. they're tough as nails.....

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 05:38 PM
V-Pitch!? I can't even make my planes fly forward, let alone backward

firemanbill
01-02-2009, 05:41 PM
V-Pitch!? I can't even make my planes fly forward, let alone backward

LOL! A fate most of us deal with...:Q:Q:Q

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 05:56 PM
I bet it is possible to hover a Multiplex funjet upside down with V-Pitch.
THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!

Moxus
01-02-2009, 06:03 PM
from playing call of duty 4, i just got a major crush on the side firing gunships :O and of course, the ac 130 would be the first choice, but i had a hard time finding suitable models of the c-130, so i wondered about the second choice, to build an ac 47...
but i think you have solved that problem for me :D
so what about armament? jsut some firecrackers onboard, or something more? automatic airguns, or is that too small too? what about the .22 lr? pretty much ompff for a model plane, yet light and inexpensive (6)
this might be the next generation of uav.... radiocontrolled gunships :P

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 06:45 PM
as I mentioned before, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!!!!!!

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 09:21 PM
With the c130 from EAM I am so surprised about its weight considering its size. It weighs less than an easy star, yet is twice at least the size and volume. With a weight like that, you can even use bl 180 motors and 6 amp escs, and save soooo much money. I would probably use 280 because I like power!

firemanbill
01-02-2009, 09:33 PM
It is light, and the 4 280 brushed motors in mine are plenty enough power, and It's all run on one ESC!:cool:

I haven't flown mine since June, had some power issues with it at a fly in up in Pennsylvania. I plan on reworking it and getting her back in shape by time for SEFF.

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 09:47 PM
Really? I was even thinking four Brushless 300s. How do you get it all on one esc? If you are having trouble with it, you can just pawn it off on someone that doesn't have one (hint hint) :)

firemanbill
01-02-2009, 09:51 PM
Really? I was even thinking four Brushless 300s. How do you get it all on one esc? If you are having trouble with it, you can just pawn it off on someone that doesn't have one (hint hint) :)

It's simple on brushed motors. Can't do it on brushless though. I run it all on one Castle 55 amp Griffin brushed ESC.

I'll sort it out. nothing major. Just need to get in there and clean out the motors. Ran into some tall grass and got some inside the motors.

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 09:53 PM
Does it stall easily with those brushed? what props do you use? what battery? how many amps does it pull?

firemanbill
01-02-2009, 09:56 PM
Stall? as in motors stalling or flight stalls? either way no. She flies great and the motors spin up all the time and never have any problems. (sas long as there isn't grass and dirt in them:o)

I run the GWS 5030 props on a 3s lipo, usually a 3s 1650mah Common sense 12c battery.

Not sure on the amps but I think it was 30ish

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 10:00 PM
thats pretty good! Is there some where I can get it not off internet, or at least not by credit card?

firemanbill
01-02-2009, 10:03 PM
I don't know. You could call or email them and see if they have any distributors. If not I'd say they can work something out to get one to you.

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 10:06 PM
Awesome. Can it take off fairly shortly, and go fast quickly? Does it have ailerons, elevator, AND rudder

firemanbill
01-02-2009, 10:09 PM
It flies an awful lot like the real thing. Takeoffs do take a bit. (Look at my vids again) It's not real fast, flies real scale like. Yes it is 4 channel, rudder/elevator/ailerons.

firemanbill
01-02-2009, 10:12 PM
here is my build thread on it.

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6537

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 10:22 PM
Very nice thread. you mentioned that it pulled 16 amps. THATS NOTHING!!! I can pull that many amps in my sleep! LOL will brushless 370s fit in the little holes, and a 3s 2100mah batt? If only I had one I would know :)

firemanbill
01-02-2009, 10:26 PM
Very nice thread. you mentioned that it pulled 16 amps. THATS NOTHING!!! I can pull that many amps in my sleep! LOL will brushless 370s fit in the little holes, and a 3s 2100mah batt? If only I had one I would know :)

I sure did huh? That's why it's good to be able to look back. :D

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 10:32 PM
How long did it take you to build it? Are there any special materials needed that aren't included? I have an extra 480 motor, servos, and reciever lying around I was planning to put in an MUS or Hawker Sea Fury, or T-28. I don't have an extra esc, caus I robbed it from my extra for other soon to have plane pile for my SS, which esc exploded. So, Now this this plane appears on the map, and I have feelings I never felt before :) Along with the balsa hobby-lobby Cessna 172. Also, can't more go wrong with the hercules, since it has four motors, and generally more stuff on it?

firemanbill
01-02-2009, 10:41 PM
Well it's not an ARF so it does take some time. It is not too terribly difficult though.

It has everything needed except the electronics, rx, servos etc. It only takes 3 servos though so that is good.

Other than that just basic building materials.

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 10:43 PM
With this styrafoam kit, what would be the difference btween an arf and a kit?

firemanbill
01-02-2009, 10:48 PM
it requires an assembly process that is more in depth than just putting together an ARF. It's not a true stick built kit per say, but it is a kit none the less.

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 10:55 PM
you know what are great bl outrunners, the Bm2410-9. It is silver-brownish, and very small. It has all the power on an eflite 300, but costs only 6.36! I might look into those for this

firemanbill
01-02-2009, 10:58 PM
you know what are great bl outrunners, the Bm2410-9. It is silver-brownish, and very small. It has all the power on an eflite 300, but costs only 6.36! I might look into those for this


They should work very well. The price is right to eh?!;-):D

benovisoff
01-02-2009, 10:59 PM
If only horizon hobby had them :)
I've looked up and down, to and fro, hither and thither, round and about, hippity hoppity, skip to my lou, and yet nobody has the C130 that EAM does. hmmm.....

I just checked some stats on some bb v.bl. I found a brushed 300 for 11 that provides 22 oz. of thrust, whisch is weird because the eflite bl 300 that is 60 dollars has only 14. I'm getting suspicious of eflite, they were always loyal but now......

mitchrichie
01-31-2010, 04:10 AM
Working on a Scratch built C-130 over here: http://www.buildafoamie.com/blog/sneak-peek/c-130/

firemanbill
01-31-2010, 04:20 AM
Working on a Scratch built C-130 over here: http://www.buildafoamie.com/blog/sneak-peek/c-130/

Neat. Is that your site? Or are you just building along along with them?

I did acquire a slightly used airframe that I will make into an R/C version. It'll be a while though as there is a LOT to do on it. This used to belong to NASA and it was a wind tunnel model here at NASA Langley.

mitchrichie
01-31-2010, 04:35 AM
Buildafoamie.com is a site I'm building.

I'd love a wind tunnel model... That's awesome!

firemanbill
01-31-2010, 04:39 AM
Cool! Good luck with the site and Welcome to WattFlyer!:D

marvinf14
04-26-2010, 06:00 AM
http://vimeo.com/11156750 (http://vimeo.com/11156750)
&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3xLPm3Sx1U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3xLPm3Sx1U)

jimmydog
07-09-2011, 10:12 AM
Hi there.

A quick & easy C130 all styro. foam. 72"span.
I had one that was kitted for a while in Europe & sold in GB.

It is a very standoff scale Herk. for 4xspeed 400. 3S Lipo. Flies at a
more scale speed than others I have seen.
Light wt. 1500-2100 gms. Mine started at 1900. First takeoff on grass at 45degrees, measured from photo.

Mate & I are that pleased we are scaling up 150% to 108" using the same
construction method to keep weight under 7KG. because of the Heavy model
rules in OZ.
Norm. PS. have just read thread.

jimmydog
07-09-2011, 10:14 AM
Hi again.

See www.gibbsguides.com for reference to article & plan info.

Norm