Lucky maiden flight of Mini Super Sportster

[wattman]

I was lucky today , maiden flight of my GP Mini Super Sportster with a TP 2100mah lipo , and motor and geardrive and prop from a parkzone P-51 .
And a new GP lipo friendly 35 amp ESC .
Checked and rechecked everything and took it off and looped and rolled and inverted and spins and etc ......:)
After landing and checking it over , found that I only had 2 rubber bands holding the wing on :eek: , I was lucky the wing stayed on . Now I have 6 bands holding the wing on , and had more enjoyable flights with this neato plane . I really enjoy flying both the large and small Super Sportsters from GP , both EP .:D

[SargentM]

Lol, how many did you start with?

[Reformed Nitroaddict]

Nice wattman - any photos of this beauty? How does she fly? I have seen this plane advertised for quite some time in the magazines.

[wattman]

It only had the 2 rubber bands when it took off :eek:
Sorry no pictures yet , but the plane really does fly and track very well .........I am pleased with both the GP Super Sportsters EP , both the large and Mini :D

I installed a Parkzone P-51 motor and gearbox in the Mini SS :rolleyes: It is a 480 motor , and the TP 2100 lipo is suggusted for the Mustang .
Well when it is almost 97 degrees out , and flying with the lipo battery .....it got so hot that the gear on the motor shaft moved back to disengagement , and a landing was needed , landed fine . So today I ordered a Himax brushless motor 2815-1400 , and will try it with a 8x4 prop with the lipo's and see ;)
This Mini flys so well for me and is so enjoyable flying , I think it is worth the brushless motor :D
I did add 3 inch black stripes to the bottom of the wing [ black-white black -white etc ] so I could see it better flying , far from me , I had to really guess if I was looking at the top or bottom , now , I can see for sure . To be continued .....................

[rascal110]

HI fellas. New today.. If ya wanna try some real speed.. I have a GWS foamie mustang with a 2816/1220 Himax in it i fly with a 1320 Tp 13C pack and a 9x6 apc.. Try it but be ready. It approaches 80mph clocked with a radar gun .. BE SURE TO USE LOWWWWW RATES!!!!

[Ribcracker]

I absolutely LOVE my mini super sportster and highly recommend it as a low wing aileron trainer. When I was learning to fly it, it survived many serious crashes (my fault) but I kept rebuilding it and it still flies sweet, sweet, sweet.
I destroyed the cowl and motor mount so I glued on a plywood firewall and screwed on a home-made stick mount and am using an Ultrafly 400 size box geared 2.38 with the Ultrafly A/30/24 fed by a 2100 TP 3 cell. Prop is 10x4.7. WOW!! She'll go verticle for about 100 ft. before she falls out.
This $80 plane is well built (sturdy) and does well in the wind. If I ever do beat it to death, I will definitely get another.

[wattman]

Ribcracker Where did you end up with the TP 2100 mah 3 cell in the plane for CG balance ?

Here is where mine balances , till I change to a brushless later this week :D

[Ribcracker]

Originally, I couldn't get my 2100 forward enough so I used the 1320 but one day a bad crash drove the pack through the front bulkhead which created room for the 2100. Gary Wright (famous RC pilot) owns an MSS and once posted that he had to cut out the bulkhead to get his lipos to balance. Apparently, it doesn't affect the integrity of the plane. My 2100 is so far forward that if you look straight down into the cockpit, you'll barely see it. Maybe your plane balances with the pack that far back because of the weight of your landing gear. I land on grass so I like to come in on my belly. LG just trips the plane up and bends the wire.
I have had to remove material from most of my planes to get the lipos forward enough. I guess it's because these planes were built with the heavier "old" packs in mind.
By the way, black stripes on the underside sounds like a great idea. Did you use paint or tape?

[wattman]

I worried out the former to get the battery more towards the front, I think it was like Hanger 9 or something tape, really very thin black sticky tape , about 3 inches or so wide , made a big difference for me to see , sort of like REALLY WIDE invasion stripes ......:D If I get time ,sometime I will post a picture .

[gwright]

I had to "hog out" the former up front to slide the 2100 3S pack far enough forward. It was a "two glasses of wine" job one evening :) I just took my time, poked an x-acto up in there and hacked away. this is not the type plane I would go out and buy, but I won it int he raffle at seff and decided to slap it together one evening. Stock motor is rather anemic. Geared B20 was great at 150 watts and 9X6 "E" prop. Decided to try an A20 on it, so now it's about 200 watts on an A20 20L and 9X6 "E" prop. Will complete first half of knife-edge loop. If I cheat and slant it a bit i can get around the knife edge loop, but the plane really isn't designed for that. I use it more for relaxing sport/pattern style flight. It's really fast with this setup, so nice slow rolls of 8 or 10 seconds at eye-level going down the field are it's forte

[bronicabill]

It only had the 2 rubber bands when it took off :eek:
<<snipped>>That's too funny... and scary!

FWIW, the few times I flew my Mini Super Sportster EP, it took off with NO rubber bands holding the wing on! :eek:

When I assembled mine, the first thing I did was convert it to a bolt-on wing since I really hate rubber bands. The mod worked great. Too bad I just sold the airplane or I'd make some photos of the mod and post it.

Cheers,

[Doppelganger]

There are about five people in my club that fly the Mini Sportster. I do as well. It is an very enjoyable plane to fly!. Wind is definately no problem. It's also extremely easy to land. Very very low stall speed.:)

[wattman]

5 in your club flying the Mini SS EP :eek: what a plane .
I have added a Himax 2815-1400 BL motor to mine :D
And static test on the table , WOT with a APC 9x6 prop was 23 amps with the TP2100 mah lipo ;) , and it felt like it really pulls hard .
Also installed a AeroBird tailwheel [$1.50] and it has been working fine , steerable , mounted on the rudder , works fine on pavement .
Reduced the planes weight almost a ounce with the Himax motor , plane now weighs ,RTF ,1 pound 7.2 ounces .
Am anxious to fly it again , with this brushless motor now :D

[Doppelganger]

Great job on the Himax! Very clean install. Man, you're gonna love that brushless setup. What speed controller are you using? I flew my Mini today. Four total today. Probably 10 flights total. I have a Warp 4 (4 turn) w/6x4 prop. she really scoots with this setup. But that Himax of yours looks like it's going to fly the covering off of it.:D Oh, I'm also using a
Cool Running esc. All but one of my planes have an esc from Cool Running.
Hands down best bang for the buck! Let us know how your shakedown flight goes.

Steve

[wattman]

Raining :( , but we need the rain , and its cooler right now .
All my brushless motor planes have the Castle Creations Phoenix speed controllers ;) This one , the 35 . I like the connection to the computer abilty , to set the controllers , for me , this works .
Where is the Wrap 4 motor from ? And what batt's are you useing ? Flight time min's ?

[wattman]

OH MY Goodness :eek: the rain quit , powering up to roll out and take off , it never even got to half throttle , and the plane leaped into the air :D
At just under half throttle the mini SS EP does all the flying stunts that I can do , gave it full throttle and pulled it up , almost went out of sight , almost straight up , WOW . Now consider it had just quit raining and was low cloud cover ;)
I am so pleased with this plane and Himax motor and lipos and the Phoenix ESC ..................I had set my timer to 15 min's , and flew 2 batterys till the 15 mins were up , will fly till cutout on another day , and see just how long it will fly on each battery . I am happy :D :D :D

[Doppelganger]

Here is a list of dealers for the Warp motor. https://secure.empirerc.com:444/dealers.htm I think I'll try the Himax. How much did you pay for your motor and where did you purchase it? I use a couple different packs whith this setup. TP 1900mah, Maxamps 2000mah, and a Magnum 1900mah from Nesail (stay away from this battery) Cheap batts are cheap for a reason.:) Sadly, I never time my flights. And I rarely fly till LVC. I'm guessing my flights are around 10-12 mins. I really have no sense of time when I fly.


Steve

[wattman]

I purchase all the Himax items from http://www.maxxprod.com/
the 2815-1400 was 79.95 , which includes connectors for your speed control and the prop adapter is also included with the motor , so you have the correct one when you get the motor . I like to have some idea of available time flying , so I am not way out over something when the esc shuts down the motor .

[Doppelganger]

I'll have to start timing my flights. LVC while flying circuit inverted would not be a good thing!:eek:
And thanks for the link. I completely forgot about that one.

[Ribcracker]

The reason I don't use LVC is because my planes get very sluggish as soon as the voltage drops below 11 (on a 3s) and I know that it's time to bring it in. The truth is...it would be very difficult to "fly" your plane with a dangerously low voltage level.
Who agrees? Who doesn't?

[Doppelganger]

Actually, I flew my Mini Sportster on a Precision Aerobatics 3 cell 2000 mah down to around 10.8, and the plane still flew well. I was a bit surprised when I hooked it up to the charger and saw how far the battery had discharged.

I'm not a very technical person in some ways. So timing my flights has never really been an issue for me.

Steve

[wattman]

Yes you guys are correct 99.99 percent of the time , you do realize the power level is dropping , so it's time to bring it in . But , always a but , sometimes I fly way to high up , and throttle back and glide and maybe catch some lift or air currents way up ....................and maybe range a bit far away bleeding off the height ................and then get too low / or stall it being stupid , and try to give it more power , only to find out that it does not have enough power , and down she goes :eek:
I know , I know , I should not do that , so thats why I started useing a simple timer , or is that simple ,started useing a timer :p , so I would have some idea when to start for home , and start getting ready to land , time does fly when you are having fun :rolleyes:

I did go fly the Mini Sportster again tonight , 16 min's of fun , landed , taxied around , practiced ground steering , just messing around , about 4 min's of this and the esc cut the motor power off , so the esc is working .
And now I know to set my timer for 16 min's , and then land , no hurry , and the power will soon be gone , works for me :D
And yes , again tonight I went way to high up , but the conditions were just perfect , the Mini does glide very well . Its my favorite plane :D

[Doppelganger]

The problem with the Mini is that it flys so darn well, that you sort of feel a false since of security. Well actually, it makes me really daring. Okay, it makes me stupid.:D A couple times I found myself in precarious situations. The good thing as that the Mini is very responsive. That helps me recover rather easily. I Love my Uzi, and my Mofo (Formosa), but my Mini is definately tops!:)

Steve

[Ribcracker]

Steve,
I digress. I knew I had heard that word before so I looked up doppelganger in Webster's. It is a German derivative translated as "double walker" and is the supposed ghost or wraith of a living person. Then I looked up wraith and it said "guardian angel" -an apparitian or ghost; specifically, the spectral figure of a person in his exact likeness supposed to be seen just before death or a little after.
Now, who says we can't get a little education while we banter about aircraft? But I'm curious, DG...why that "handle"?

[Doppelganger]

I first learned about Doppelgangers from a Stephen King book years ago. I used to race online a lot. I wasn't one of the best, but I did okay. My strategy was to shadow the driver in front of me. I'd stay right on his tail waiting for him to make a mistake. Then I'd pass and look for my next victim.

There are other ways of getting around cars such as out-breaking, or slipstreaming. But for me, shadowing someone until they choked was far more satisfying. The moniker "doppelganger" just seemed to fit. Now it's always there. I can't seem to shake it!:eek:

Steve

[bronicabill]

<<snip>> The moniker "doppelganger" just seemed to fit. Now it's always there. I can't seem to shake it!:eek:

SteveSounds like me and the handle "bronicabill" I use most everywhere! I used to shoot Bronica medium-format cameras on a semi-professional basis, and my online handle became "bronicabill" at that time... and it's still with me to this day!

[Doppelganger]

Hey Bill, good to see I'm not alone.:)

[Ribcracker]

Well, that's the end of my mini SS. Last night was calm and still so I put up my slow stick (which is model #3 on my radio) for some peaceful floating. Tonight, I walked out with my mini (model #1) without checking my radio and launched it across the field. As it was screaming away like a demon, I fed it some up elevator only to watch it plough a deep furrow into the ground and strew pieces about. I believe I felt the ground shake. Apparently, the servos are opposite on those two planes. Anyway...there are some crashes from which you cannot rebuild. She's a goner alright. The electronics seem okay (amazingly) but I havn't tested them yet.
I feel like I've lost my best friend. We've done a lot of exhilarating flying together...upwards of 100 flights, surely. Anyway, thanks for letting me unload.

[wattman]

Sorry about your plane Ribcracker , belive me .
Well it must be a bad day for Mini SS planes:eek: :(
I am not sure ,but it most likely was dumb thumbs , my wife and daughter and grandson came over to see me fly my favorite plane :cool:
and I was trying to do a nice show for them , and REALLY put it in the ground :eek:
Scratch the plane , scratch the motor , scratch a lipo , my goodness it went in HARD . So hard , that the receiver broke the ant. and ripped loose from the double sided tape , and jerked loose from the 2 rearmost servo's connectors and went towards the front of the plane , where the big opening is since the entire front end was gone , splinterville .
The good note though is ....I had ordered another one , just in case , and it came in today , and today was the just in case :rolleyes:
To be contd. with my Mini #2 in a week or so maybe , I am depressed right now .:(

[Ribcracker]

Wow. I'm really sorry, man. This is a sad day. But...we keep coming back, don't we? The adrenaline rush of a great flight by far outweighs the despair from a horrible crash.
And...like a phoenix rising up from the ashes...WE WILL BE BACK!!!
I just wish money wasn't an issue.
Peace,
Rib

[Doppelganger]

I'm really sorry to hear about your two losses guys.:( My E-Starter was my favorite plane. I loved that modified great flying wonderful plane. But, my Mini helped me get over it. Great that you have a new one to build Wattman. Ribcracker, you'll be up with another Mini soon too hopefully. You'll make it happen.;)

Steve

[rnkeng]

Just recently bought a Super Sportster EP. In the pre-build stages now. Anyone have any comments/cautions on the aircraft??

[Ribcracker]

These are the best set of instructions I have ever used. I'll admit I'm a clutz but my plane turned out strong and true. You should have no problems.
BTW, the plane is pretty anemic with the reccommended battery so...be sure to power it correctly. Enjoy!
Also...hand launching can be tricky. Because the CG is underneath the low wings, there is nothing to grab on to at the balance point. You have to grab it behind the wings and that makes it want to pitch forward. So point it high when you throw.
Peace,
Bud

[wattman]

Just finished up my #2 GP Mini Super Sportster :D
If the wind slows down after while I will go maiden it :eek:
Stock drive , one of the new GP lipo friendly esc , 3 cell TP 2100 lipo , , it pulled 16 amp WOT static on the table .

Printed the Wattflyer logo on clear labels for my wings ;)
Here are a couple of photos .........

[wattman]

:D
I am happy :D
The Mini flew off at maybe 60 percent throttle , no trim needed on anything , does most of the simple stunts at about 60 percent throttle .:)
So now it has two 14 minute flights logged .
And I shot some more pictures of my favorite plane at the small paved lot where I fly alone :p

[wattman]

:D :D yes

[Doppelganger]

Unfortunately I killed my Mini yesterday.:( I was chasing a spitfire at our field and having a darn good time.When suddenly, I came out of a bank and was leveling off when; :eek: The wings folded back!!!. My poor girl nosed right in. Good news is Jason, from Extreme RC happened to have one at home NIB. I guess it goes without saying that I'm the proud owner of a new MINI!!!:D Yay!! I also killed my Formosa the same day. Lost the signal and it was lights out. Bummer

Steve

[wattman]

Sorry Doppelganger . I know how you feel . But as soon as you get the new one going ...it will be fine again . I did find that the reason my first one went in ....the elevator servo failed and locked up , when I was heading straight down , bad time to happen . My Mini #2 is sweet .:D

[Doppelganger]

Thanks wattman. I'm more upset that I now have 3 motors with bent shafts.:mad: I can send the mega in for repairs. But what do I do with an Rcer warp4? If these can't be repaired, I'll have to stop buying them. I'm going to build my GWS Spitfire in the interim. I'll put an Axi 2208/34 in it. It's all I have left.

Steve

[wattman]

Crosswind to my normal landing pattern last evening , made landings a bit harder comeing in over, to the side and near hard objects in the flight path , and I managed to land and then come to a stop against a brick wall :eek:
Am I glad I had the stock drive in ...only bent the little $2.39 shaft :)
Glad it wasn't another brushless motor :rolleyes:
Mini flys well , everything all stock except for TP 2100 3 cell lipo and the new GP esc that are lipo friendly . I am keeping track of flights / time on the stock motor , useing the 3 cell lipo's to see how long it last ?

Isn't the way / method that the landing gear mounts the greatest :D
push the gear in the slot , block it in with a tight fitting piece of wood , flush , and a piece of tape for security , I think this is the greatest way to attach landing gear .

[Big Oakden]

Hey all, just signed up today,
I converted an old Super Sportster 20 to electric last year.
She really flies nice, although I was using Nicads (10x1700) with a Mega Motor 22-30-3(?). I retired her for a short stint until I could afford to get Lipo's for her.

Below is a pic (if it goes thru) guess it wont go. too big. if anyone can tell me how to make them smaller I will get them posted.

Dave

[wattman]

What photo program do you have on your computer ?

[Big Oakden]

I have Adobe Photoshop CS, but am not familiar with using it yet.....
I only got it about a month ago, and havent had enough time to play with it.:(

[Big Oakden]

let's try it one more time

[Tioli]

What a blast to see so many mini super-sportster fliers. I'm on my second and love it. My first sportster went down due to pilot error: I was lining up for a landing, decided to do a missed approach, a wind gust pushed the plane away from me, I overcorrected and ran it into a light pole behind me.

My second plane is waiting for its maiden--too windy this week. I was not impressed with the covering job this time: must have been a trainee at Great Planes--lots of wrinkles, and generally loose monokote.

I'm using an Eflite Park 400 inrunner, with a Thunder Power 2100mAh and a Phoenix 25 ESC.

My favorite flyer, by far!

[Doppelganger]

Finally started building my Mini today. This time around I'm going to go with a CEM 200(Python) Motor. 25 amp Cool Running esc. BTW, While Phoenix 25's are burning up all over the place, these Cool Running 25's are getting the job done. I would tell anyone to just give these esc's a chance, they really are great esc's. And the price is unbeatable.http://www.coolesc.com/prod_a25.php?CC=431417eef32c4 I own 5 of these myself!:D Anyway, I'm going to take my time with this build. I will definately add a tail wheel. I Like absolute control when I ROG. Such a great plane.

Steve

[Doppelganger]

What do you guys think about using an Rcer Warp4 (4 turn) with the included gearbox on the Mini S? The gear ratio is 2.4 to 1. I already drilled out the pinion for the shaft. Undecided whether to go with the Python, or the Warp. Pls chime in and give me your opinions and or suggestions. :) For those of you that don't know, the Warp is a can similar the Mega 16/15 series.

Steve

[wattman]

David are you running the E-Flite 400 direct drive ? And I am on my second Mini also :)
Doppelganger please post photos / info on how this motor and stock drive works :)

[Tioli]

Hey Wattman,

I don't know what I'm doing electric-wise yet. So I'm running the Park 400 with the 5.33:1 gear box that E-Flite recommends with the Park 400 (recommends for the mini-funtana, I think.

Can anyone help me learn how to figure gear reduction? I know how to do the ratio, I mean how to figure what would be best for the plane. I'm using a 9x7.4 prop (APC) and the sportster flies very well.

d

[Tioli]

oh, doppelganger: What are the issues with the Phoenix 25 you mentioned? I hadn't heard of them burning up...Do you have a source for the Cool Running 25?

d

[Tioli]

The little pilot that comes with the ParkZone P-51 fits perfectly in the miniSS. I repainted him to make him a little less military...

[Doppelganger]

My post above has the link. They are out till Sept 1. But I'm sure you can still order it and they will ship it when it's in stock. The older Phoenix 25's were burning up. The newer ones have a higher bec., I think it's 2.5 or 3. Still, Cool Running is priced much better. With Phoenix, you pay for the computer programming. I have one phoenix, and I never use that feature.

I've seen 4 of them roast with my own eyes. I'm sure their newer ones will be fine. It's just that in my opinion, they are pricey. Actually, right now it sits in my electronics box. I'm afraid to use it!:eek:

Steve

[Doppelganger]

Well, the day draws near. This Saturday I will maiden my new Mini Sportster.:D I went with the CEM Python 200. This, along with a Precision Aerobatics 2000 mah 3 cell and an 8 to nine inch prop, I should have great power and very good speed. I also put a steerable tail wheel on it from Hobby-Lobby.

It looks great!. All thats left is to install the ESC (Cool Running 25 amp). Of course I had to fabricate a mount for the motor. I had to eyeball the thrust angles. Been pretty good at it so far. Hope I'm right on this one. I'll let you all know how it went. Wish me Luck!!!:D

On a side note, I crashed my E-Starter. It just died on me while I was slopeing about 25 feet high. No control, and the darn thing found the only rock at the field!:mad: For cheap fun, build an E-Starter and clip off the horner tips, cut the wing in half and sand out the dihedral. Install oversized balsa ailerons, and you have a cheap plane that just flies wonderfully. I flew it more than anything else in my hangar. It's that much fun!:) Have another on order.

The two planes that I will always have in my hangar are the Mini, and the E-Starter. Big fun!!

Steve

[bronicabill]

<<snip>> The older Phoenix 25's were burning up. <<snip>>

SteveSorry for the newbie response, but are you talking about the Castle Creations ESCs here? I just got a CC "Thunderbird 18" for my E-Flite Ascent to control the Ultrafly BC/06/15 motor that went in the nose. It seems to do fine so far, but I sure don't want it to roast on one of my vertical climb-outs!

Regarding price, it was a little less than $40.00, so it was one of the least expensive that included a prop brake that my LHS carried.

[Doppelganger]

I only know about the Phoenix. I'm not bashing them, I'm just concerned after seeing a few of them fry.:eek:

Steve

[Doppelganger]

Finally maidened my new Mini. Wind was 5-10 mph. Thats a good day here. I flew it first with an 8x6 apc prop. ROG was without incident. Needed a few clicks for elevator and ailerons. The Mini flew well but didn't have the power I was hoping for. Verticals were unimpressive.:( I checked my amp draw, and decided to go with a larger prop. I threw on a 9x7.5 APC. :eek: Holy Horner Tips Batman! On ROG, she shot straight up! Unlimited verticle till she's a spec!:D This setup is just plain awesome.

I'm very glad I picked up that Python 200 at Hobby-Lobby. It was on sale for 59.00. Regular price is 88.00 I believe. Anyway, she flies just as well as my first Mini, just much faster with more power.;) I'll always have a mini in my Hangar. Been thinking about getting that Sportster from NES. The 48" version. 99 bucks aint too bad.

Steve

[Tioli]

Hey Steve, good to hear a successful flight. I'm still trying to sort out my miniSS setup. I have a lipo 2100, and a park400 brushless, but I can't find an appropriate gear ratio.

Are you running direct with an outrunner? using a gearbox?

david

[Doppelganger]

Hello Tioli,
I'm using an outrunner. Direct drive. I don't like the hassle of gears. Actually, I know nothing about them.:o Hope you get it sorted out soon.

Steve

[wattman]

Finally maidened my new Mini. Wind was 5-10 mph. Thats a good day here. I flew it first with an 8x6 apc prop. ROG was without incident. Needed a few clicks for elevator and ailerons. The Mini flew well but didn't have the power I was hoping for. Verticals were unimpressive.:( I checked my amp draw, and decided to go with a larger prop. I threw on a 9x7.5 APC. :eek: Holy Horner Tips Batman! On ROG, she shot straight up! Unlimited verticle till she's a spec!:D This setup is just plain awesome.

I'm very glad I picked up that Python 200 at Hobby-Lobby. It was on sale for 59.00. Regular price is 88.00 I believe. Anyway, she flies just as well as my first Mini, just much faster with more power.;) I'll always have a mini in my Hangar. Been thinking about getting that Sportster from NES. The 48" version. 99 bucks aint too bad.

Steve

:D thats good news , another great flying Mini Super Sportster , I am still flying my second one :) And just picked up another kit to keep as a back up ;) I really like this plane :)

[Doppelganger]

Yup, I'll have to get a back-up as well. I'm still trying to dial her in perfectly. Hard to do in high winds. It still amazes me how stable she is in the wind. However, the wind does keep me from tweaking the trim. Still going to experiment with CG as well. But, all in all, I'm loving my gal.:)

Steve

[Ribcracker]

Of course I had to fabricate a mount for the motor. I had to eyeball the thrust angles. Been pretty good at it so far. Hope I'm right on this one. I'll let you all know how it went. Wish me Luck!!!:D


Steve,
Tell me about it. Did you cut off the clamshell mounts? Install a stick mount? Make a new firewall? How'd you do it?
Bud

[Doppelganger]

I'll post some pics. I built a firewall to mount the motor. I didn't use the clams. It took a while to get everything just right. But my patience was rewarded. The sportster has over 10 landings now. She's flying perfectly.

[BringABucket]

Hello All,
I'm new to the Forum.
I have been flying about 9 months.
The best rush ever I think any ways.
I started with an older trainner 40 size then got into the electrics with a Slow
Stick, Love the Slow Stick for floating, but I needed some speed so I got a THawk not bad still justa trainer though.
So I went and got a Mini Funtana with the Eflite 400, been flying that for about 3 months now not bad at first then noticed I needed more power,
So I got a Himax 2816-1220 200watt motorhave not installed yet, lookin for prop sugestions?
from what Ive read 9x6 would do pretty well, my thoughts at the moment are
a Balane between thrust and flight time.
get the most out of my 2100Mah LiPo and not strain the motor and ESC.
Any thoughts from any one would be great
Thanks

[Ribcracker]

Bucket,
Welcome to the forum. I think you'll like it here. Please fell free to share your experiences with us. We all benefit from that.
I don't know which prop to reccommend for your outrunner.
My Mini Funtana is set up with an Ultrafly A-series motor rated at 180 watts, geared 3 to one with an APC 10/4.7 and it draws just under 20 amps.
I need more power too, though. She's a great sport flyer but she's not giving me 3-D. I'll be interested in how the 2816 works out. Be sure to let us know.
Great fun, isn't it?
Peace,
Rib

[BringABucket]

Thanks for the Welcome.
I Think I will listen for a few tips on the prop before I take her up.
I'm so new I like to do my home first.if any one has idea's please feel free to let me know.
Oh Yea this is My Mini

[BringABucket]

This is the mini.
I realy like this bird
the Other Funtana is the 90s my next project I can't wait to see her in the Sky

[panzerd18]

Is it powerful with the stock geared 480 motor?

[BringABucket]

Is it powerful with the stock geared 480 motor?

The Stock motor works Okay, not enuff power for me though.
:)

[Ribcracker]

Bucket,
This thread is almost a year old so it doesn't get visited much anymore. Also, it was about the Great Planes Mini Super Sportster.
If you want to stir up some responses to your Funtana questions, start a new thread. I guarantee you'll get some action.
Peace,
Cracker

[dmmalish]

hi wattman another mini owner here the last post i read from you about power said you were using the stock motor and gear drive with lipo's is that true i am just finishing up my mini using the stock motor and nmh but would sure like to know if the lipos are better on this stock setup my esc is the GP electricfly mini brushed c-35 w/bec it says it will take lipo's but i am not very up on them at all so any info would be helpful thanks dave

[wattman]

addition from a earlier posting.....Just finished up my #2 GP Mini Super Sportster :D
If the wind slows down after while I will go maiden it :eek:
Stock drive , one of the new GP lipo friendly esc , 3 cell TP 2100 lipo , , it pulled 16 amp WOT static on the table
stock prop mounted ...


I did waller out the former in front of the cockpit to take the TP 3 cell , 2100 mah lipo , to get the battery farward to balance c of g , anyway , the lipo makes the stock motor and drive a screammer , throttle back once you are in the air . Yes it will shorten the stock motor life , how much varies of course .
Enjoy this great plane .

[dmmalish]

thanks wattmann for answering and if you figure out what esc you have let me know and i liked your decal job also that was nice with the wattflyer decals

[wattman]

And another great flight for my Mini SS , just before sunset and no wind tonight . What a nice plane .:D
And , after the very short drive to where I fly , after the sun is to low to fly ......now I run my new RC truck , and have more fun .:D
Life is good :)

[dmmalish]

tonite was great here in michigan also, i started doing a few rolls and loops tonite what a responsive plane and i'm flying stock can't even imagine when i switch to lipo's and brushless i love this plane.

[virtual]

hi everyone...'im pretty new to flying and my second plane is the super sportster mini..havent flown it yet but i've got a ST models "2212/1250kv brushless outrunner in it, with a 8x6 prop. its got a 3 cell lipo battey 11.1v 1300mah. i also have a 20c-30c ESC. any tips or advice would be well appreciated. :)

[dmmalish]

the mini was my secongd plane also what was your first plane? you will find the mini is a nice flying plane but it is quick it goes where you point it i flew mine stock for a while and now i am brushless you have to land it under power it does not float like a trainer be prepared and have fun

[virtual]

thanks. but will my setup fly it well? do i need better engne,bigger prop..watever?

also, is it quick to respond ? will it roll quickly or loop/ respond to elevators fast ?

thanks.

my first plane was an aerobird extreme and had no problems at all, 1 crash due to a elevator servo locking up :(

[Big Oakden]

Well all,
After a year and 3 months of sitting in my shop after having crashed. I rebuilt my SuperSportster. It isn't a "Mini" but the Kit version (Super Sportster .20) Same wingspan, same everything, with the exception that I changed the landing gear set up, and made the "hood" completely removable to have access to the motor, ESC and battery.

I originally had it powered with a Mega 22/20/3(I Think), but after the crash, the motor didn't work any more (whats up with that anyway)....
Rebuilt everything forward of the wings, and recovered to match existing covering. (ps: it's my avatar)

This time I used a new Storm 35-55-900kv motor from visionhobbies.com, a 40 amp ESC and a new 3300mah 14.8 LiPo.
Now weight is up to 4# 5 ounces, but there does not appear to be any problems. what used to be a 50-100 takeoff run is now about 25 feet.
She now has unlimited vertical power with a 9x6 prop. And when Opened up to full throttle give the .40 size planes a run for their money.

Slow speed response is good, and still very stable. Aerobatically, she performs as well also. I have low rates set comfortably low (I really dislike snapping inverted while trying to land)(1 roll every 2 seconds) and high rates give a great roll rate(1-2 per second)

This time around I wont worry about someone shooting me down. I converted to 2.4ghz.

Oh yeah, take off is 3/8 throttle and flying at half throttle is quick. If you like to fly slower, drop it back to 3/8 throttle and put put.
After 5-6 minutes of flying between 1/2 to full power, we landed to check everything out.
Motor wasn't even warm.
ESC was skin tempurature (like holding hands with your girlfriend/wife warm)
Battery didn't even heat up.
When I got home, I recharged the lipo to check power usage and only used 540mah of energy out of a 3300 battery.

Now I can fly two flights on one battery without having to recharge.

Balance was not an issue, as the landing gear is mounted just forward of the wings (where the wings "plug into" on the fuze.)