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Tinman
04-28-2007, 11:51 PM
Hi everyone,

I just wanted to give some good feedback to Jeff @ Heads up RC. He has some really good deals! And shipping is only 2 dollars, for one item or a boat load.

So far I have bought a BL motor/ESC/ Lipo/Battery Charger/ and props from him.

Everything was very well packaged. I just received 10 props from him and he took the time to put them on a piece of cardboard and wrap them in newspaper, and then put them in bubble tape. Not to mention how fast the shipping is.

Just wanted to give him some more good feedback! If you get the chance check out his store.

http://stores.ebay.com/Heads-Up-RC

CHELLIE
04-29-2007, 12:30 AM
Hi Everyone :) I Totally agree with tinman :D Keep up the Good work Jeff, and stay Sweet , Chellie

smokejohnson
04-29-2007, 01:11 AM
I like how he has broke down the information for the Tower Pro outrunners. Very easy to understand, thanks Jeff.

Papaw14
06-08-2007, 08:39 PM
I just received another order from Jeff and placed another today. He is the best dealer I have ordered from. He always responds to emails with great answers.

Tinman
06-08-2007, 11:35 PM
Yep I just got my third motor from him a few days ago... :) good stuff

gfdengine204
06-09-2007, 12:50 AM
Well, since we are heaping praise.....:)

I just placed an order from Jeff late last night, got the email it was shipped today. I decided to upgrade my EasyStar to a brushless motor to help it in headwinds. Emailed him, asking what he recommended for my plane, and sent a reply in minutes. (Who else does THAT?) Then when I saw what he recommended, I was very confused about how to mount it. Another email to Jeff, and he sent me a pictorial from another user showing how to mount it using PVC pipe and bushings. This is my second order from Jeff, and he will get as much business as I can throw his way for anything I need.

That, and he is in Wisconsin, home of the Green Bay Packers (BONUS!!!) LOL

Chellie and Brian, thanks for pointing me in his direction.

Tinman
06-09-2007, 01:37 AM
Your welcome Kev,

Brushless is the way to go!

N3CLI
07-01-2007, 01:58 PM
I just received another order from Jeff and placed another today. He is the best dealer I have ordered from. He always responds to emails with great answers.

What email address do you use for Jeff?

Thanks

Fred

Slowjohn
07-01-2007, 02:10 PM
Howdy Fred,

Try this one, headsuprc@yahoo.com

Good Luck, Jeff really is the best I've dealt with and I have probably about $500. worth of his items. Great person to deal with and I've even got to sit down with him a couple of times.

Standing By,
Slowjohn

FlyingMonkey
07-01-2007, 03:22 PM
Does the owner of HeadsUp everr post on here?

smokejohnson
07-01-2007, 03:28 PM
He does (http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/member.php?u=11977) but not often.

N3CLI
07-01-2007, 04:13 PM
Howdy Fred,

Try this one, headsuprc@yahoo.com

Good Luck, Jeff really is the best I've dealt with and I have probably about $500. worth of his items. Great person to deal with and I've even got to sit down with him a couple of times.

Standing By,
Slowjohn

Thanks John

I have an FMA Cellpro 4s/A123 and wanted to try his WOW line of Lipo Batteries. Wanted to ask him what adapter I need to charge/balance the WOW Lipo from my Cellpro and if he sells same.

Has anyone done that ? and if so what adapter will work ?

Regards Fred

Tinman
07-01-2007, 05:22 PM
I bought a Lipo/Mihm charger off of Jeff, it came with a AC adapter... I'm pretty sure he can set you up with something...

I really like the WOW batts, they are great.

:D

N3CLI
07-01-2007, 05:38 PM
I bought a Lipo/Mihm charger off of Jeff, it came with a AC adapter... I'm pretty sure he can set you up with something...

I really like the WOW batts, they are great.

:D

Thanks for the good word on WOW.

I am from Pa also and went to school at Philadelphia college of Pharmacy.

My two daughters who are both MD's graduated from Pitt Medical school.

They both were taught to fly nitro powered RC in the day by me at the Valley Forge Signal Seekers before electric was even conceived.

Thanks again

Fred

Tinman
07-01-2007, 05:49 PM
Your welcome Fred. Thats great your daughters got into flying RC. I hope my daughter gets into it, she's only 6 months old though :) The WOW batts that Jeff sells has a female Deans Plug on them. It's nice not having to solder one on :)

Slowjohn
07-01-2007, 05:53 PM
Hey Fred,
I can't answer that question for you but go ahead and email Jeff. He'll be more than happy to help you anyway he can even if it's just answering questions for you. I probably asked him 10 questions a day for a week before I bought anything from him. He's really interested in helping people get the most for their $$ and is especially fond of getting a newbie going. I just can't say enough good about him. He really enjoys what he's doing and he tests everything he sells. He's answered so many questions for me and headed me back onto the right track so many times. I had just started getting into brushless motors and lipos and had already made several mistakes buying the wrong stuff. He took what I had and matched it up to what he had that I could use, gave me some irresistible prices and I've been hooked on his services ever since and we've become friends. I have no worries about referring Jeff to anyone because I know he'll treat them right.

Give Him A Chance,
Slowjohn

Prof100
07-25-2007, 10:35 PM
You will not find a more reputable RC store on ebay. Jeff is helpful, knowledgeable, and stands behind his products. Great person to deal with on ebay specifically or on the internet in general. Two thumbs up. I changed my buying decision from a FMA Cellpro4 to the DN Jeff sells simply because he was so helpful and responsive to problem I had with a basic Lipo charger I bought from him (it overcharged the cells).

egens1
09-19-2007, 02:38 AM
Here is my opinion ...

Jeff is the God of RC stores. He has helped me in several occasion. Replaced a bad Esc!!!! and hey you get electronics for low price. As long as I am in the RC hobby, I am getting my electronics from Jeff.


and here is why

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24654

aviatordave
01-03-2008, 05:34 PM
Made an order yesterday to Jeff @ Heads up RC. I asked him to ship as soon as he can since I needed the stuff by Saturday. He usually does anyway....I just wanted to be sure.

Normally he is based out of Wisconsin so I didnt think it would take that long to get to Iowa.

I guess he spends his winters down in Texas so he hurried up and got it in the mail just hours after me purchasing it on EBAY and mailed it Priority.

How many vendors would go out of their way like that? This is why I continue to do business with Jeff.

and thanks again Chellie for bringing his name to me :)

Slowjohn
01-03-2008, 06:14 PM
It's sellers like Jeff and several others like him that causes me to keep my eBay acct. open.
On Christmas Eve I won 2 UltraFly Furious kits on eBay for $12.50, $22.50 total with shipping. I was going to have to wait till the following Tuesday for the bank to open to make a deposit so I could pay him thru PayPal but the guy wouldn't wait or accept payment by any other means like one of my buddies here could have paid him for me or made a transfer into my acct. No he wanted only to re-list the item and told me he'd leave me Positive FB if I'd let him re-list them. I said no, I wanted my winnings. He re-listed the kits 8 hrs. later anyway after cussing me out via email. That seller had 2 negatives in less than 60 feedbacks. Anyway eBay won't do a darn thing about him and I know if I leave him a negative he'll retaliate. BTW, I didn't get my positive either. Guess I need to leave a post about littlejohn_trucking eh?

Anyway Jeff is one of the best in my book!!!

Standing By,
SJ

Grasshopper
01-03-2008, 06:36 PM
Is Jeff a member on WF?

Slowjohn
01-03-2008, 06:53 PM
Howdy Tom,
Yes he is but he prefers to stay in the background. I'll be going to visit him here in a few weeks. He bought a couple of my planes and it's easier and will cost about the same for me to just take them to him rather than ship them when I finish with them.
He goes by "All Up in the Air" I'm pretty sure. He doesn't post much at all. The 1st thread about him got closed by the Mod because a couple of members trashed the thread by arguing back and forth for a couple of pages.

Standing By,
SJ

Grasshopper
01-03-2008, 06:55 PM
Thanks SJ. I was just curious if he knows how much positive feedback he gets here. I've only ordered from him once and it went flawlessly. I'm sure I'll order more. I've never heard anything negative about him.

Slowjohn
01-03-2008, 07:21 PM
He's a very nice person to know as well as deal with. He wants everyone to be happy with any deal/transaction with him. It's about a 3 hour drive for me one way to go spend a day or so with him and if the wind is right we try to get in a little flying. The man is very serious about his business and he gets a lot out of helping people get their planes flying the way they want them to. I have to say he's one of the best people I've met in my 53 years (next week). My world is way better off by knowing Jeff. I knew next to nothing about this Electric RC but thanks to Jeff I'm now able to help others now somewhat and I'm no longer intimidated by all this electrical stuff. I had never been able to grasp it before but he's able to explain it and as you can see by his guides he writes for the products he sells he wants everyone else to understand it too. He's been the biggest help to me by far and I'm very grateful.

Thanks Jeff,
SJ

all_up_in_the_air
01-03-2008, 08:06 PM
Is Jeff a member on WF?


Slowjohn sent me a link to this thread, so figured I better check it out. About all I can say is 'wow!'
I really appreciate all the nice comments!
Jeff/Heads Up RC

Slowjohn
01-03-2008, 08:30 PM
Well Jeff we just want you to know that we appreciate you and your service to all of us who trade with you. IMO I don't think anyone who's bought from you could say they got a bum deal in the least way.
So a Big Thank You from all of us who've posted here and there's many more out there who appreciate you too but haven't said so here and I'll add that It's been a pleasure & a privilege to know you personally.

Thanks For Everything,
Slowjohn

aviatordave
01-03-2008, 08:34 PM
Thanks for showing up Jeff! And thanks for getting those 2 batteries and props in the mail on such short notice.

all_up_in_the_air
01-03-2008, 08:38 PM
Thanks for showing up Jeff! And thanks for getting those 2 batteries and props in the mail on such short notice.

You're welcome. I just hope good ole USPS does it's part!

CHELLIE
01-03-2008, 08:38 PM
Slowjohn sent me a link to this thread, so figured I better check it out. About all I can say is 'wow!'
I really appreciate all the nice comments!
Jeff/Heads Up RC

Hi Jeff :ws: You Deserve all the Nice Comments, Your doing a Awesome job in keeping our ADDICTION going :D Its always a pleasure working with you, keep up the great work, Chellie

gfdengine204
01-03-2008, 08:40 PM
Jeff,

Very nice to see you here. I haven't bought as much as Chellie, but she is who recommended you to me. I just placed an order this weekend for a motor, combo, and props, and you had it shipped yesterday. I appreciate it. Not sure how you are making a living, but I am glad you are around.

all_up_in_the_air
01-03-2008, 09:10 PM
Hi Chellie and Kev,
It's nice to be able to take a little time to visit the forums - things slow up a bit this time of year.
It's been a great year for Heads Up RC, thanks to all the recommendations from Wattflyer members. I can't say enough THANKS!

aviatordave
01-05-2008, 06:27 PM
You're welcome. I just hope good ole USPS does it's part!

Looks like the mail did their job, the box showed up today and I will put those lipos to work tomorrow!

thanks for getting that out on such short notice, I promise my next order will be made in plenty of time before I need the stuff :)

Here is what I used from my last order (http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=301207&postcount=6) (about a month or so ago)

all_up_in_the_air
01-05-2008, 06:33 PM
Glad to hear it. Have fun!

Prof100
01-05-2008, 07:08 PM
Glad to hear it. Have fun!

Hi Jeff,

You gotta come visit more often. Your batteries checked out pretty well on my CBAII analyzer. Keep up the good work and great customer support.

pburt1975
01-07-2008, 06:09 PM
Hi Chellie and Kev,
It's nice to be able to take a little time to visit the forums - things slow up a bit this time of year.
It's been a great year for Heads Up RC, thanks to all the recommendations from Wattflyer members. I can't say enough THANKS!

Good to see you on here Jeff and a big thanks to you and your store. Theres plenty been said good about you in this thread. Best I can do is back all that up and say once again "Awesome Seller and person to deal with"

all_up_in_the_air
01-07-2008, 06:22 PM
I appreciate the kind words. I'm going to try to spend a little more time on the forums this year. I like the camaraderie I see on Wattflyer!

billintn
01-14-2008, 09:21 PM
I placed order for some stuff from HeadsUp RC on 1/7/08. Received notification it was shipped on 1/8/08 but has not arrived here in Tennessee. Any body help with how long shipping usually takes. I tried to track with the USPS , but it only says shipping info received 1/8/08 Bandera, Tx. (?) How long should I wait ?

aviatordave
01-14-2008, 09:49 PM
Well...not sure what the deal is, but its always fast shipping. If its not there today I would suspect tomorrow. You can message him thru EBAY as he usually answers right away or email him here ---> headsuprc@yahoo.com

all_up_in_the_air
01-15-2008, 02:21 AM
I placed order for some stuff from HeadsUp RC on 1/7/08. Received notification it was shipped on 1/8/08 but has not arrived here in Tennessee. Any body help with how long shipping usually takes. I tried to track with the USPS , but it only says shipping info received 1/8/08 Bandera, Tx. (?) How long should I wait ?

I can assure you that your package was indeed shipped on the 8th. I purchase a delivery confirmation for all of the packages I ship, and it's important to understand that the delivery confirmation number cannot be used for tracking, only for proving that an item was indeed delivered.
USPS is extremely reliable - they have lost only two packages out of several thousand that I have shipped. Unfortunately, they can also be a little slow at times. I hope your package arrives very soon. Please contact me if USPS has not delivered it by the 18th and I'll see if I can track it down for you.
Take care,
Jeff

billintn
01-15-2008, 04:46 AM
Thanks Jeff, i'm just a little impatient sometimes. I wasn't questioning your business, I just wondered how long it usually took. Thank you again.

all_up_in_the_air
01-15-2008, 05:01 AM
I'm a little surprised you didn't receive it today, but then again, delivery of First Class mail varies quite a bit. I don't blame you for being anxious to receive your items - I'm the same way when I order something!

stevecooper
01-15-2008, 05:17 AM
I'm a little surprised you didn't receive it today, but then again, delivery of First Class mail varies quite a bit. I don't blame you for being anxious to receive your items - I'm the same way when I order something!
Jeff::That does it!! I'm shopping with you my bub, I heard so many good things about ya'll, yet I still shopped at ( you know where in H,K,:roll:) but the site lay-out and the shipping and you have won me over, I'll be getting up with ya'll for my next creation , your bub, Steve

Airhead
01-15-2008, 05:20 AM
heads up RC.....:ws: Good place to do business... You can count on Jeff..

Slowjohn
01-15-2008, 12:03 PM
Jeff::That does it!! I'm shopping with you my bub, I heard so many good things about ya'll, yet I still shopped at ( you know where in H,K,:roll:) but the site lay-out and the shipping and you have won me over, I'll be getting up with ya'll for my next creation , your bub, Steve

Hey Ol' Bub,
I been telling you :rolleyes: ( and everyone else too) but noooo. Now look at all that long shipping time you've spent waiting on :eek: HK when you could've spent that time in the air flying around like a bird that's been eating some of those Fermented Berries :D:Q:Q. Glad your making the switch ;)!!!
Got any of those Berries left? :):ws::silly::D
Seriously though, if it weren't for Jeff I'd still be trying to learn how to use those Brushed systems.
Thanks again Jeff for all the help!!!

Standing By,
SJ

QUICKWEDGE
01-16-2008, 05:39 PM
CHELLIE hooked me up Jeff when I joined WF.I have had the VERY BEST SERVICE from him , better than any other seller I have used.!!!! I only use someone else if Jeff dose not carry what I need.
A BIG THANKS JEFF.!!!

Quick in Roswell.NM

all_up_in_the_air
01-16-2008, 06:25 PM
That Chellie is the smartest gal I know...oh, sorry Annie...2nd smartest gal I know :)

billintn
01-16-2008, 07:39 PM
Jeff, recieved my order today. Very good to deal with HeadsUp RC. thank you. Sorry I got impatient. HeadsUp RC is the best.
:D:D:D

all_up_in_the_air
01-16-2008, 07:48 PM
Jeff, recieved my order today. Very good to deal with HeadsUp RC. thank you. Sorry I got impatient. HeadsUp RC is the best.
:D:D:D

Glad you finally received it. The USPS must've been short of grain for their ponies :roll:

gfdengine204
01-18-2008, 02:28 AM
Another stellar example of the service Jeff provides:

Today I get an email from Jeff, asking me to check a motor he had shipped a couple weeks back. Wanted to make sure I got a 2409-12D (with a triangle), not a 2409-12Y (with a star). I had ordered the 12D. Well, mine has a star. Sent him an email telling him, and his response?

I will send the right one out, keep the other one, sorry for any inconvenience.

Oh.....the ship notification from paypal was in my inbox before I saw the reply. Wow.

Like I told Jeff, this is but one of the reasons he is my favorite RC supplier, bar none.

Thanks Jeff. You are tops in my book!

aviatordave
01-18-2008, 02:59 AM
and you got a free motor? I'm thinking you are luckier than Bill. That was nice of Jeff to do that at his expense...

You sure wouldnt get that kind of service from our asia suppliers

gfdengine204
01-18-2008, 03:05 AM
I know.....how bout it?

Three cheers for Jeff and HeadsUp RC!

smokejohnson
01-18-2008, 03:08 AM
hip hip hooray!! :D

gfdengine204
01-18-2008, 03:08 AM
hip hip hooray!

one more?

all_up_in_the_air
01-18-2008, 03:10 AM
LOL...you guys are great!!!

gfdengine204
01-18-2008, 03:11 AM
Jeff, I see you watchin this thread.....LOL

This is what makes me a repeat customer....the excellent service you provide....

Tinman
01-20-2008, 12:41 PM
Speaking of Jeff, I got to order some stuff soon... :) It's been awhile... Is it Spring yet?

Slowjohn
01-20-2008, 01:33 PM
Speaking of Jeff, I got to order some stuff soon... :) It's been awhile... Is it Spring yet?

Last week we were thinking that the calender was wrong. Even the birds and Bees and the Wasp thought so too but now it's 31 degrees outside with the Dew point at 28. Everything is still wet from the heavy rains on Friday and living right on the water basically, well it's just plumb cold outside for the Gulf Coast of Texas so I'm in building mode waiting on a box of goodies from Jeff myself.

Standing By,
SJ

gfdengine204
01-20-2008, 02:45 PM
Speaking of Jeff, I got to order some stuff soon... :) It's been awhile... Is it Spring yet?
Holy Crap Bro! Where you been?

And NO! It's NOT spring yet. It's -3 degrees here now. Ugh. :<:

Mr. Baggins
01-20-2008, 03:23 PM
Great service and fast. Got my Slow Stick motors and ready to launch. Now if the weather would get better I'd be set. Can you help there Jeff? :)

Tinman
01-20-2008, 03:41 PM
Holy Crap Bro! Where you been?

And NO! It's NOT spring yet. It's -3 degrees here now. Ugh. :<:

Ha I've been busy flying. (not thye fun kind) And going to school ugh.... Whats up with you? Got any new planes??!! Did u fly the pitts?

gfdengine204
01-20-2008, 04:35 PM
Ha I've been busy flying. (not thye fun kind) And going to school ugh.... Whats up with you? Got any new planes??!! Did u fly the pitts?
Check my signiture line.....it lists all my planes....

The Pitts is still awaiting a successful maiden....I need a runway, to do it right......hoping for this spring. :)

Tinman
01-21-2008, 10:12 PM
Sweet Kev that signature is awesome! I wish it was Spring. I would be flying now.

gfdengine204
01-21-2008, 11:38 PM
Same here bro.....as it is, I will have to just fly on weekends at the local high school gym.

unloco2
01-26-2008, 05:29 PM
I HATE EBAY! I did something I rarely do, I looked up brushless motors and came across Heads Up RC. Am I glad I did. So far, I have placed 2 orders, fast shipping, good stuff, and great info re motors and performance. Before coming to this forum, I told several people about him. I will look at his store first for my RC needs. Thanks, I still don't like Ebay.

gfdengine204
01-26-2008, 05:32 PM
I HATE EBAY! I did something I rarely do, I looked up brushless motors and came across Heads Up RC. Am I glad I did. So far, I have placed 2 orders, fast shipping, good stuff, and great info re motors and performance. Before coming to this forum, I told several people about him. I will look at his store first for my RC needs. Thanks, I still don't like Ebay.
Eh, thats ok. Lot's of people hate Ebay. But Jeff is good people. He just uses Ebay as his storefront.

Glad to see you had good experiences!

Slowjohn
01-26-2008, 06:05 PM
I HATE EBAY! I did something I rarely do, I looked up brushless motors and came across Heads Up RC. Am I glad I did. So far, I have placed 2 orders, fast shipping, good stuff, and great info re motors and performance. Before coming to this forum, I told several people about him. I will look at his store first for my RC needs. Thanks, I still don't like Ebay.

Howdy unloco2,
Lots of us here feel exactly the same way about eBay but we sure are thankful for Jeff and his store headsuprc.com

Standing By,
SJ

Bob Gilmore
02-03-2008, 11:27 PM
I too want to thank Jeff. I ordered product, it shipped quickly but I had an issue. Jeff took care of the problem instantly. That's great customer service! Thanks again.

Cheers,
Bob

Prof100
02-03-2008, 11:33 PM
I too want to thank Jeff. I ordered product, it shipped quickly but I had an issue. Jeff took care of the problem instantly. That's great customer service! Thanks again.

Cheers,
Bob

Bob,

That type of service is typical of Jeff. He sells Towerpro products for more than United Hobbies, but you won't get the warranty/service like you get from Jeff at UH.

Airhead
02-03-2008, 11:47 PM
I HATE EBAY! I did something I rarely do, I looked up brushless motors and came across Heads Up RC. Am I glad I did. So far, I have placed 2 orders, fast shipping, good stuff, and great info re motors and performance. Before coming to this forum, I told several people about him. I will look at his store first for my RC needs. Thanks, I still don't like Ebay.
Jeff always treats us well.....:)

Mr. Baggins
02-03-2008, 11:58 PM
Flew the Slow Stick with HeadsupRC motor this weekend. Everything works great and plenty of power.

Airhead
02-04-2008, 02:13 AM
Flew the Slow Stick with HeadsupRC motor this weekend. Everything works great and plenty of power.
Good for you Bill..:ws: Sounds like fun..

Tinman
02-04-2008, 02:30 PM
I have to place ANOTHER order here soon. I think this will be the 15th time I've ordered from Jeff. Good stuff!

pburt1975
02-04-2008, 02:37 PM
I too want to thank Jeff. I ordered product, it shipped quickly but I had an issue. Jeff took care of the problem instantly. That's great customer service! Thanks again.

Cheers,
Bob


Similar experience here. I just cant wait until I can give him an order that goes beyond motor shafts for the 2408 and 2409 TP motors lol. Speaking of which, I need more of those soon too.:D

pburt1975
02-27-2008, 10:24 PM
Jeff, I saw this add on Ebay and it looks surprisingly similar to yours

http://item.express.ebay.com/NEW-Outrunner-Brushless-Motor-w-Speed-Controller-ESC_W0QQitemZ130199993070QQihZ003QQfromsoiZ1QQcmdZ ExpressItem

is that you also or just some slacker using your data to sell his item?

gfdengine204
02-27-2008, 10:28 PM
That can't be Jeff's store; the shipping is outrageous!

Prof100
02-28-2008, 03:12 AM
It is just someone reselling United Hobbies Towerpro combos.

Slowjohn
02-28-2008, 04:21 AM
...copying Jeff's hard work like that. There was another eBay vendor about 2 years ago that wanted to set me up with a branch store of his but I was to copy Jeff's eBay store. I turned him down and have kept an eye on him but maybe he found someone else to do it or maybe this one is a "slacker". Could just be they're a ??????...., maybe I shouldn't go there. That site/store shouldn't last long I would hope.

SJ

Prof100
02-28-2008, 04:34 AM
Boy that website is stealing all of Jeff's works at HeadsupRC by using all the data he's gathered from prop testing. I think Jeff needs to work through ebay on this issue.

Prof100
02-28-2008, 05:09 AM
I contacted Jeff regarding the copycat ebay store and he's pursuing it with ebay.

all_up_in_the_air
02-28-2008, 05:50 AM
Thanks to all who informed me about the copy-cat. I reported it to eBay - we'll see how they handle it...

Just as a side note: It was suggested on one of the forums a while back that I had copied my motor/prop data from someone else who posts his test data on the forums. For what it's worth, I do ALL of my own testing. I have a thrust stand, Watts-Up meter, and an optical tachometer - nothing real fancy, but I get the real world data that you and I need for these motors. And I very much enjoy doing it!

Slowjohn
02-28-2008, 06:15 AM
I'll start the fire to get the Tar good and Hot!!! :eek: Who's got the feathers?

Standing By,
SJ

pburt1975
02-28-2008, 12:03 PM
Thanks to all who informed me about the copy-cat. I reported it to eBay - we'll see how they handle it...

Just as a side note: It was suggested on one of the forums a while back that I had copied my motor/prop data from someone else who posts his test data on the forums. For what it's worth, I do ALL of my own testing. I have a thrust stand, Watts-Up meter, and an optical tachometer - nothing real fancy, but I get the real world data that you and I need for these motors. And I very much enjoy doing it!

I figured as much Jeff. I hope Ebay can assist you with that one:D

gfdengine204
02-28-2008, 02:40 PM
I'll start the fire to get the Tar good and Hot!!! :eek: Who's got the feathers?

Standing By,
SJ


John,

I'll get those.....Walmart is having a sale on them. :D

billintn
02-28-2008, 03:10 PM
Kudo's to Jeff @ headsuprc. Re my post #37, I have ordered from Jeff since then and had excellent results.
Highly recommend to anyone to order from Jeff.
Bill

pburt1975
02-28-2008, 03:28 PM
Something I've been wanting to ask ya Jeff..

You sell the motor shafts for the 2408-21t's , do you sell the C-clips as well? or can you get some? They're ok the first 4-5 motor swaps, but once the clip starts spreading I like to replace them. Just cant find a replacement.

Slowjohn
02-28-2008, 03:31 PM
John,

I'll get those.....Walmart is having a sale on them. :D

I really do hope eBay takes action on this, at the very least the auctions they copied from Jeff should be pulled. More than likely though they'll let it calm down and do something similar again. My expectation though is that eBay will slither out of it with their std. apology followed by their weak excuses. Seems they darn sure don't share Jeff's commitment to fast shipping or great customer service after a sale/transaction or whatever you want to call the deals we get from Jeff. More I think about it the more I really would like to Tar & Feather this lazy copy cat. I really want to use some stronger wording but I'll keep it family friendly. Keep your spirits up Jeff, we'll try and keep everyone informed for you and chase off the snakes in the grass.

Standing By,
SJ

Slowjohn
02-28-2008, 03:39 PM
Something I've been wanting to ask ya Jeff..

You sell the motor shafts for the 2408-21t's , do you sell the C-clips as well? or can you get some? They're ok the first 4-5 motor swaps, but once the clip starts spreading I like to replace them. Just cant find a replacement.

If Jeff doesn't have those clips I found them at our local Handy Hwd. store that just opened several months ago. I think I pd. like .12 cents. ea for them and then promptly lost the bag of 20 that I bought but I did find them a week later after buying more. My problem is I keep dropping them or they fly off to parts unknown. Believe it or not those little E-clips aren't the smallest ones they carried.

Standing By,
SJ

pburt1975
02-28-2008, 03:43 PM
If Jeff doesn't have those clips I found them at our local Handy Hwd. store that just opened several months ago. I think I pd. like .12 cents. ea for them and then promptly lost the bag of 20 that I bought but I did find them a week later after buying more. My problem is I keep dropping them or they fly off to parts unknown. Believe it or not those little E-clips aren't the smallest ones they carried.

Standing By,
SJ

Even better. And yea, I've seen them clips smaller. We've got one of those Team Losi Micro Desert trucks and the wheels are held on with TINY c-clips. Which you have to remove once a day to clean anything out of the axle that builds up. I need replacements for them too...;-)

Thanks SJ

all_up_in_the_air
02-28-2008, 04:10 PM
Something I've been wanting to ask ya Jeff..

You sell the motor shafts for the 2408-21t's , do you sell the C-clips as well? or can you get some? They're ok the first 4-5 motor swaps, but once the clip starts spreading I like to replace them. Just cant find a replacement.

I have the clips on order, and I would expect to get them listed within 30 days.
Thanks for asking.

Slowjohn
02-28-2008, 04:26 PM
I have the clips on order, and I would expect to get them listed within 30 days.
Thanks for asking.

Oops :o, my bad!
Sorry Jeff.
SJ

pburt1975
02-28-2008, 04:29 PM
Oops :o, my bad!
Sorry Jeff.
SJ

LOL, maybe we can persuade Jeff to include them with the new shafts??

What do you say Jeff? I know I'll need more shafts soon and will be trying a few motors from ya when my ducks finally line up

Slowjohn
02-28-2008, 04:29 PM
Even better. And yea, I've seen them clips smaller. We've got one of those Team Losi Micro Desert trucks and the wheels are held on with TINY c-clips. Which you have to remove once a day to clean anything out of the axle that builds up. I need replacements for them too...;-)

Thanks SJ


Anytime, glad to help.
SJ

Slowjohn
02-28-2008, 04:37 PM
LOL, maybe we can persuade Jeff to include them with the new shafts??

What do you say Jeff? I know I'll need more shafts soon and will be trying a few motors from ya when my ducks finally line up

Now that's a good idea :cool:

SJ

all_up_in_the_air
02-28-2008, 04:38 PM
LOL, maybe we can persuade Jeff to include them with the new shafts??

What do you say Jeff? I know I'll need more shafts soon and will be trying a few motors from ya when my ducks finally line up

I'll consider it - seems like a sensible thing to do :-)

Prof100
02-29-2008, 02:43 AM
It looks like Jeff got Ebay to put a hold on the copycat store. Here is what you see when you click on the link that was published earlier. .

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Slowjohn
02-29-2008, 04:00 AM
Surprises me really as I didn't think eBay would do anything again but then it was a blatant copy to be sure. Anyway I'm glad they pulled the auctions that they had copied from Jeff.

Standing By,
SJ

toy4x4
02-29-2008, 04:20 AM
Thumbs up for heads_up_rc from me. Best dang shipping price I ever saw on ebay!

Wrench66
03-14-2008, 04:36 PM
Just put through my 3rd order with Jeff in 2 months.....gonna try those WOW batteries for myself.
Best advise I ever took in dealing with what to buy for my first plane (Slow Stick) was from the threads I was lurking through regarding Jeff's store. Bought a motor combo and a few other bits to complete my build up, great prices and the shipping is amazingly quick for the price. BUT what really sold me on buying from Jeff was a few days after I had bought a balance charger from him and was confused on what plug I needed to get my Apex battery to charge with it ("needs a diff balance plug" says Jeff....uh, OK whats a balance plug??:eek::D) he walked me through the steps by email. Must've bothered him half a dozen times that week!
I also had a power supply issue (newbie thing again) that I mistakenly blamed on the Heads up charger I had bought. Jeff told me to pack it all up good and send it to him to test (even sent my battery to him for reassurance that I had done all my wiring correctly). He writes me a few days later to let me know that the charger works fine and that I wired my balance plug correctly AND that he charged my battery and it went to 4.20v on all cells :D The phrase "going above and beyond" should be on his web page somewhere!
Thanks to Jasmine, Chellie and Slow John (amoungst the sea of other followers of Jeff) for keeping the light of Heads Up RC buring bright enough for all us blurry eyed newcomers to see :p

And thanks again, Jeff!

loyal customer,
Ray Kelley

Slowjohn
03-15-2008, 12:58 AM
Howdy Wrench66,
Welcome to the hobby, Glad your getting a good start & having someone like Jeff in your corner is a huge advantage. Spread the word :D.

Good Luck,
SJ

smokejohnson
03-15-2008, 01:14 AM
I recently ordered a esc from Jeff...again. As always it was at my door a few days after ordering it and works great :).

Mr. Baggins
03-15-2008, 01:33 AM
Sounds like this Jeff fella might be alright. :)

Once again, count me as a happy customer.

Slowjohn
03-26-2008, 12:53 PM
It appears that the person or persons who stole Jeff's information awhile back to use in their own ads/auctions on eBay are at it again.
http://stores.ebay.com/AplusStore_Outrunner-ESC-combos_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ9445431QQftidZ2QQtZk m
eBay was notified a couple of days ago but as of a few minutes ago when I started this they haven't done anything to remove the offending auctions/ads yet. Just wanted everyone to beware & watch out for & not order from this person as it's Not Jeff's store www.headsuprc.com (http://www.headsuprc.com)

:mad: I really wanted to say what I really feel about this :eek: lazy thieving _ _ _ _-_ _ _ _ but I enjoy my time here so I'll hold my tongue, besides there are young people & ladies present that hang out around here as much as I do so... Oh, I almost forgot that I'm not supposed to bash anyone either but don't ya'll think a rip-off deserves it?

Standing By,
A :mad: SJ

all_up_in_the_air
03-26-2008, 04:12 PM
I'm not too concerned about it Solwjohn. I think eBay will take care of the problem sometime today. It is a bit amazing that the seller would try it again, though!

aviatordave
03-28-2008, 02:44 AM
Looks like ebay did nothing. And this guy references this forum!


From the ebay page that slowjohn referenced -


Some experienced flyers who post on the 'Wattflyer' forums suggest using a little 'JB Weld for metal' to secure the plastic mount to the metal firewall mount that comes attached to the motor. This prevents it from working loose and spinning in the mount.

Prof100
03-28-2008, 02:52 AM
Looks like ebay did nothing. And this guy references this forum!


From the ebay page that slowjohn referenced -



AviatorDave,

That's not the copycat quoting this forum. That quote was directly stolen from HeadsupRC that made that statement on his website.

aviatordave
03-28-2008, 02:55 AM
ahh......I didnt see that on Jeffs page.

I should have figured he cut and pasted the whole thing from Jeff....my bad -

all_up_in_the_air
03-28-2008, 03:09 AM
Ebay removed the copycat listings that I reported. Unfortunately, two more listings were posted while waiting for eBay to take action. Ebay did not remove the new listings, and today the seller posted another listing - exactly the same as the ones eBay removed. So, I reported the new copycat listings to eBay today...
I'm hoping that eBay will get serious with this seller and stop this nonsense.

Concerning the refernce to Wattflyers, I was asked to post that information in my Tower Pro motor listings by several Wattflyer members, and was happy to do it. I'm quite certain that he was not asked to do so. He certainly knows the 'cut and paste' command, doesn't he?!

Prof100
03-28-2008, 03:14 AM
Ebay removed the copycat listings that I reported. Unfortunately, two more listings were posted while waiting for eBay to take action. Ebay did not remove the new listings, and today the seller posted another listing - exactly the same as the ones eBay removed. So, I reported the new copycat listings to eBay today...
I'm hoping that eBay will get serious with this seller and stop this nonsense.

Concerning the refernce to Wattflyers, I was asked to post that information in my Tower Pro motor listings by several Wattflyer members, and was happy to do it. I'm quite certain that he was not asked to do so. He certainly knows the 'cut and paste' command, doesn't he?!

Jeff,

Saying he knows the cut and past command is an understatement.

By the way Jeff, do you really need ebay? I would think your business is well established and the costs of sales commissions would easily cover the cost of your own website and leave more money in your pocket.

all_up_in_the_air
03-28-2008, 04:50 AM
Ebay has worked out very well for me, and I'm grateful for the opportunity to build my business on their site. I've considered opening a 'regular' online store several times, but I've always been too busy to get serious about it. I recently hired a person to do the shipping for me, so that has freed me to get a lot of little things done that I've been putting off way too long. Perhaps in a few weeks I'll be wondering what to do with my time....then I'll take a serious look at putting together an online store :)

Prof100
03-28-2008, 05:02 AM
Ebay has worked out very well for me, and I'm grateful for the opportunity to build my business on their site. I've considered opening a 'regular' online store several times, but I've always been too busy to get serious about it. I recently hired a person to do the shipping for me, so that has freed me to get a lot of little things done that I've been putting off way too long. Perhaps in a few weeks I'll be wondering what to do with my time....then I'll take a serious look at putting together an online store :)

Jeff,

Understood. I even thanked you to make up for all the times I did not post the positive feedback.

By the way, with your new person the order-to-delivery times have increased. You worked 24-7, 365. She obviously does not. It is not objectionable, but you'd send an invoice late into the night, she can't until she comes in the next day.

all_up_in_the_air
03-28-2008, 05:45 AM
Actually, we are shipping orders in about the same time frame. We usually ship all orders that come in by noon central time on that same day. Orders that come in during the afternoon and evening are shipped the next day - except Sundays, of course. If you're experiencing something else, please let me know! Perhaps the difference that you mention has to do with the email shipping notificatons. We now send those out mid to late afternoon.

I'm pretty determined to offer the fastest and lowest cost shipping in the hobby business. As a customer, it always irritated me to pay $8.00 to have a few small items shipped to me from the big online hobby stores. And ordering from overseas was always a guessing/waiting game. It still is for the most part, from what I read on the forums, though some people seem to have decent results...

rcguyme
03-28-2008, 06:35 AM
I order from jeff as much as i can A+++++++++ all the way

Prof100
03-28-2008, 06:57 AM
Actually, we are shipping orders in about the same time frame. We usually ship all orders that come in by noon central time on that same day. Orders that come in during the afternoon and evening are shipped the next day - except Sundays, of course. If you're experiencing something else, please let me know! Perhaps the difference that you mention has to do with the email shipping notificatons. We now send those out mid to late afternoon.

I'm pretty determined to offer the fastest and lowest cost shipping in the hobby business. As a customer, it always irritated me to pay $8.00 to have a few small items shipped to me from the big online hobby stores. And ordering from overseas was always a guessing/waiting game. It still is for the most part, from what I read on the forums, though some people seem to have decent results...

Jeff,

It wasn't meant to be critical. I usually order in the late evening. Before your new person you'd often process the order and invoice after watching to make sure I was finished. I could pay that night. Next day it would ship. What happens now is the order is placed in the late evening. Next day your new person invoices me but I am NOT home to pay. I get home from work I pay the invoice which is about 20 sometimes 24 hours after I ordered. My payment won't be seen, picked and packed until the next day. That's all that I am trying to say is because of how I order it takes sometimes a couple of more days to get an order.

I find your shipping policies to be an oasis in the world of on-line ordering. In the world of ebay, $2 shipping is unheard of since too many sellers try to make their profits in the shipping charges. It cracks me up when a $15 Esky FMS simulator has a $14 shipping charge. We all know what's going on.

Keep it up. You are truly an A++++++++++++++ seller on ebay.

all_up_in_the_air
03-28-2008, 07:01 AM
Thanks Bill, and I'll see if I can stay on top of the invoicing for you!

Prof100
03-28-2008, 07:14 AM
Thanks Bill, and I'll see if I can stay on top of the invoicing for you!

Jeff,

No, don't do anything any different. Enjoy your new person fielding orders. I can adjust. If, however, I urgently need something I can just PM you. However, I highly doubt I will need to request something urgently. I try not to be in a panic over my RC hobby. It's supposed to be relaxing. :D

billintn
05-08-2008, 04:51 PM
My third order placed 5/4/08 and received it 5/7/08. Properly packed and arrived in great order. Jeff does a terrific job, even with small orders like mine. Highly reccommend Heads up RC to anyone. Great product and greater service. Bill:):):)

stevecooper
05-08-2008, 05:43 PM
billintn (http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/member.php?u=18211)Bub:: He's likely the most beloved vender on our site,, what a guy, bub, steve

rcguyme
05-09-2008, 06:02 AM
Well to you who do not know that jeff has a new address easy and fast service thanks jeff

http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/StoreFront (http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/StoreFront)

dmmalish
05-09-2008, 01:44 PM
is jeff leaving e-bay???

aviatordave
05-15-2008, 07:03 AM
is jeff leaving e-bay???

looks like he will run both. I'll prob continue to use ebay since he is quick to give a positive feedback as soon as you pay. I like a big # behind my ebay name. (actually its my wifes ebay name :))

dmmalish
05-15-2008, 01:26 PM
i tried the new site and did not think about pumping up my feedback oh well, thanks for the info
Dave

FlyingMonkey
05-15-2008, 01:54 PM
Jeff, with as many people there are converting their traditionally "glow sized planes" to electric, do you have any plans to carry larger motors?

Slowjohn
05-15-2008, 02:04 PM
is jeff leaving e-bay???

The word is that at this time he has no plans to close his eBay store.

Standing By,
SJ

all_up_in_the_air
05-15-2008, 03:07 PM
Jeff, with as many people there are converting their traditionally "glow sized planes" to electric, do you have any plans to carry larger motors?

I'll have larger motors and larger Lipos listed by the end of this month - thanks for asking.

And Slowjohn is correct - no plans to close the eBay store. :)

FlyingMonkey
05-15-2008, 04:20 PM
Thanks Jeff.

Your continuing assistance in breaking people of their dirty liquid fuel habits is appreciated :D

all_up_in_the_air
05-15-2008, 04:35 PM
Thanks Jeff.

Your continuing assistance in breaking people of their dirty liquid fuel habits is appreciated :D

LOL...glad to help!

Slowjohn
05-16-2008, 11:15 AM
I'll have larger motors and larger Lipos listed by the end of this month - thanks for asking.

And Slowjohn is correct - no plans to close the eBay store. :)


How large Jeff? I've been looking at the Wing Mfg. Corsair short kit and also their Mustang. I just can't seem to make up my mind.
There's just so many planes and of course I'm limited on space but mostly $$$::o

Standing By,
SJ

all_up_in_the_air
05-16-2008, 03:13 PM
How large Jeff? I've been looking at the Wing Mfg. Corsair short kit and also their Mustang. I just can't seem to make up my mind.
There's just so many planes and of course I'm limited on space but mostly $$$::o

Standing By,
SJ


Well, that Corsair would be a good test plane for the largest motor. ;) I'll test the motors and publish the thrust data, and you guys can decide what size plane to put them on :)

Slowjohn
05-16-2008, 04:39 PM
Well, that Corsair would be a good test plane for the largest motor. ;) I'll test the motors and publish the thrust data, and you guys can decide what size plane to put them on :)

The scales just got tipped towards the Corsair but then you know how I feel about Corsairs too don't ya :D:D:D and since I need to order the A-26 Invader cowls anyway...

Standing By,
SJ

FlyingMonkey
05-17-2008, 02:59 AM
Sounds great.

I have an 80" cub that needs powering.

InfiniteMotors
07-06-2008, 02:00 AM
Great to see so much positive feedback!

I just placed a big order for everything I've been needing lately, hoping all goes well and I can continue to shop/recommend Heads Up.


-Jake

kickngas
08-07-2008, 06:06 PM
I want to commend Jeff on his business sense. Repeat customers are such because of excellent customer service and this promotes new customers that become repeat customers!
I think Jeff is an enthusiast that has a store and for this he understands his customer needs. Quality products, low prices, low shipping prices and superior customer service before and after the sale. I hope he thrives and soon can expand his inventory so I don't ever have to look elsewhere for RC merchandise.
Kudos to you Jeff and thank you for doing business the old fashioned way.

InfiniteMotors
08-15-2008, 07:33 AM
Yep I received everything quickly and again the quality is much greater than the price would lead you to believe.

I will continue to buy from Heads Up!

gfdengine204
11-17-2008, 11:37 PM
Another well-deserved thanks to Jeff @ HeadsUpRC. Placed an order for some props and a motor mount on Friday evening, and it was shipped Saturday morning. Got it today!

Fantastic, especially since I wanted the props for vacation; we leave Thursday! Now I have them!

Thanks Jeff! You are the best!

all_up_in_the_air
11-18-2008, 02:02 AM
Another well-deserved thanks to Jeff @ HeadsUpRC. Placed an order for some props and a motor mount on Friday evening, and it was shipped Saturday morning. Got it today!

Fantastic, especially since I wanted the props for vacation; we leave Thursday! Now I have them!

Thanks Jeff! You are the best!


Glad to hear the package arrived so quickly, and I appreciate the business!
Jeff

stevecooper
11-18-2008, 09:44 PM
Kev:::I screwed up BIG TIME when I ordered With Pay-Pal while Half asleep and thought I'd REALLY SCREWED UP MY ACCT!!!!Jeff saw the prob and got back with me toot-sweet to fix my mess-up!!Kudo's to Jeff!! Heads up the best there is, (bub, steve

gfdengine204
11-18-2008, 09:55 PM
Kev:::I screwed up BIG TIME when I ordered With Pay-Pal while Half asleep and thought I'd REALLY SCREWED UP MY ACCT!!!!Jeff saw the prob and got back with me toot-sweet to fix my mess-up!!Kudo's to Jeff!! Heads up the best there is, (bub, steve

That's why I give him my business. He is the best!

Slowjohn
11-19-2008, 03:03 AM
Kev:::I screwed up BIG TIME when I ordered With Pay-Pal while Half asleep and thought I'd REALLY SCREWED UP MY ACCT!!!!Jeff saw the prob and got back with me toot-sweet to fix my mess-up!!Kudo's to Jeff!! Heads up the best there is, (bub, steve

Yep, He is the best IMO.
This is the 3rd year I've been dealing with Jeff. Since I first ordered from Jeff I've only ordered from him that what he has carried. I really can't see myself doing business with anyone else because of his way of doing business, the way business should be conducted, that "Old Fashioned" way.

Standing By,
JB

Wrench66
11-19-2008, 06:08 AM
Yep, He is the best IMO.
This is the 3rd year I've been dealing with Jeff. Since I first ordered from Jeff I've only ordered from him that what he has carried. I really can't see myself doing business with anyone else because of his way of doing business, the way business should be conducted, that "Old Fashioned" way.

Standing By,
JB

Just placed another order with Jeff's co. for some props and one of his BP21 motors that are on sale now......IF I would just stop breaking those props and learn how ta land my foamy belly goer's I wouldn't hafta use Jeff's website!
WELL, ya know I ain't gonna learn that quick so I just keep him in my favorites and check his site every so often for sales and stuff. I didn't need another motor but he's got them priced sooooo tasty and welll.......how can ya resist anyways?!

hehe, Jeff, your the best!

---Ray

gfdengine204
11-19-2008, 02:54 PM
Just placed another order with Jeff's co. for some props and one of his BP21 motors that are on sale now......IF I would just stop breaking those props and learn how ta land my foamy belly goer's I wouldn't hafta use Jeff's website!
WELL, ya know I ain't gonna learn that quick so I just keep him in my favorites and check his site every so often for sales and stuff. I didn't need another motor but he's got them priced sooooo tasty and welll.......how can ya resist anyways?!

hehe, Jeff, your the best!

---Ray

Dangit, Ray......I didn't realize they were on sale.......

I had to go and buy 2 more to have a couple spares......

mustangmark
11-27-2008, 04:37 PM
Just addding to the ever growing list of compliments. I converted to electric last year, and discovered Jeffs Ebay store. Well thats been about $900.00 ago, and I keep my buying through him. When I first asked for help getting the right motor, I received almost an instant reply, and it has always been the same with any questions that I have. Very helpful. What impressed me the most though was I bought a few extra batteries, (of course I got them the next day, still dont know how he does that) and they sat on my bench for 2 weeks. When I took one of the out of the box it was puffy. Being new to electric I asked for his advice, and if I had done something wrong. Well, he told me how to discharge it, dispose of it, and then he replaced it. You have a customer for life Jeff, and I keep passing the word.

Prof100
11-27-2008, 06:22 PM
Just addding to the ever growing list of compliments. I converted to electric last year, and discovered Jeffs Ebay store. Well thats been about $900.00 ago, and I keep my buying through him. When I first asked for help getting the right motor, I received almost an instant reply, and it has always been the same with any questions that I have. Very helpful. What impressed me the most though was I bought a few extra batteries, (of course I got them the next day, still dont know how he does that) and they sat on my bench for 2 weeks. When I took one of the out of the box it was puffy. Being new to electric I asked for his advice, and if I had done something wrong. Well, he told me how to discharge it, dispose of it, and then he replaced it. You have a customer for life Jeff, and I keep passing the word.

Yes, Jeff does service his customer like no other e-retailer. However, his lipos are mediocre at best. Jeff was kind enough to replace 1 of 3 WOW packs I bought that became useless after a year even though I properly used them and stored with 50% charge. I monitor my packs with a Computerized Battery Anayzer (CBAII) so the data is real not just a feeling. I have a range of packs (about 35) from Fusion to Hobby City. The WOW packs ranked slightly above the lousy ABF's I bought. Jeff did send me one pack as a replacment -- a Powerup pack. So far, it's behaved well but nothing that justifies the extra $20 over a vanilla HC Zippy.

all_up_in_the_air
11-27-2008, 08:37 PM
"Yes, Jeff does service his customer like no other e-retailer."

Thank you for the nice comment, and Happy Thanksgiving!

idealhobbies
11-28-2008, 02:15 AM
Thank you for the nice comment, and Happy Thanksgiving!

You deserve it. I too have sung the "HeadsupRc praises". Jeff, as long as you keep providing the service levels that you do, you're going to keep mine and a lot of others business.

I've ordered from Jeff at least 10 times and have been totally happy with the service every time. Like someone else said, Jeff provides an old fashioned business...Service and Keep the Customer Happy. A rare thing these days.

mustangmark
11-28-2008, 03:13 PM
Yes, Jeff does service his customer like no other e-retailer. However, his lipos are mediocre at best. Jeff was kind enough to replace 1 of 3 WOW packs I bought that became useless after a year even though I properly used them and stored with 50% charge. I monitor my packs with a Computerized Battery Anayzer (CBAII) so the data is real not just a feeling. I have a range of packs (about 35) from Fusion to Hobby City. The WOW packs ranked slightly above the lousy ABF's I bought. Jeff did send me one pack as a replacment -- a Powerup pack. So far, it's behaved well but nothing that justifies the extra $20 over a vanilla HC Zippy.

Maybe I do not completely understand the differances between brands of batteries, but my feeling is they are not "mediocre at best". Of the first 4 I bought over a year ago, they still run strong and true with over 500 flights per battery, (I keep a very detailed flight log, ie: Flight times, air temp, charge and discharge rates, balancing, pilot errors:{ etc.) and feel for the great price and service, they do just fine for me without paying the LHS 3 times as much for the same size battery. Maybe I am just lucky, but 35.00 divided by 500 comes to 0.07 cents a flight. Lot better than nitro and I dont have to clean up my aircraft.:silly: P.S. Thought you might like to see my next effort, a 138" Valkyrie all cut and ready to go. Striving to keep under 3.5 lbs. Hope to have in the air by Christmas! Any motor suggestions Jeff?

Slowjohn
11-28-2008, 04:21 PM
Maybe I do not completely understand the differances between brands of batteries, but my feeling is they are not "mediocre at best". Of the first 4 I bought over a year ago, they still run strong and true with over 500 flights per battery, (I keep a very detailed flight log, ie: Flight times, air temp, charge and discharge rates, balancing, pilot errors:{ etc.) and feel for the great price and service, they do just fine for me without paying the LHS 3 times as much for the same size battery. Maybe I am just lucky, but 35.00 divided by 500 comes to 0.07 cents a flight. Lot better than nitro and I dont have to clean up my aircraft.:silly: P.S. Thought you might like to see my next effort, a 138" Valkyrie all cut and ready to go. Striving to keep under 3.5 lbs. Hope to have in the air by Christmas! Any motor suggestions Jeff?

I have to agree with you. I have a bunch of Jeff's WOW lipo's and have had no complaints at all. If there is a problem though Jeff will take care of it just like he does for everyone. I haven't seen or heard of anyone though replacing a lipo for someone after a years time unless it's one of those real high priced lipos which IMO they can afford to replace having got 2 or 3 times more than they're worth to me at least.
Jeff switched to the Power Up lipos because of some quality control issues with the WOW line he was carrying so now I guess we can expect even better performance from Jeff's lipos because I know how hard he test everything he sells himself trying to make sure we're all happy with whatever we buy from him but "no matter how hard a person tries there's just no possible way to please everyone all the time" :sad:
Of course that's part of what makes this country so great is that we can say what and how we feel or think. Just my .02 cents...

Standing By,
SJ

gfdengine204
11-28-2008, 10:45 PM
I too have bought lipos from Jeff, and never (knock on wood) had a problem. All have performed flawlessly.

all_up_in_the_air
11-28-2008, 11:30 PM
Maybe I do not completely understand the differances between brands of batteries, but my feeling is they are not "mediocre at best". Of the first 4 I bought over a year ago, they still run strong and true with over 500 flights per battery, (I keep a very detailed flight log, ie: Flight times, air temp, charge and discharge rates, balancing, pilot errors:{ etc.) and feel for the great price and service, they do just fine for me without paying the LHS 3 times as much for the same size battery. Maybe I am just lucky, but 35.00 divided by 500 comes to 0.07 cents a flight. Lot better than nitro and I dont have to clean up my aircraft.:silly: P.S. Thought you might like to see my next effort, a 138" Valkyrie all cut and ready to go. Striving to keep under 3.5 lbs. Hope to have in the air by Christmas! Any motor suggestions Jeff?

I'd be happy to suggest a motor, but I'm not sure what a Valkyrie is! Did a search on the internet and didn't come up with much. Sure looks like you have a lot of pieces there...I admire you guys who can build a beautiful model from scratch! Maybe you can post a picture of a finished model of a Valkyrie so I can see what it is...

mustangmark
11-28-2008, 11:50 PM
I'd be happy to suggest a motor, but I'm not sure what a Valkyrie is! Did a search on the internet and didn't come up with much. Sure looks like you have a lot of pieces there...I admire you guys who can build a beautiful model from scratch! Maybe you can post a picture of a finished model of a Valkyrie so I can see what it is...
It is a Carl Goldberg design from 1938. Orginally designed for freeflight.Here are a couple of pics.

all_up_in_the_air
11-29-2008, 12:05 AM
It is a Carl Goldberg design from 1938. Orginally designed for freeflight.Here are a couple of pics.

I've never seen one...truly unique! You mentioned that you're shooting for 3 1/2 lbs. Give some thought about how much thrust you would like for the model...we can keep it really light and slow (probably what you want), or go with a little more weight and give it enough power to climb straight up. Shoot me an email at headsuprc@yahoo.com and I'll give you some ideas. And I hope you will post some pics when it's finished!

smokejohnson
12-17-2008, 03:56 AM
Looks like you finally dropped FeeBay Jeff, I don't blame ya. I like the refinements made to your new site, looks good. It also looks like you dropped the price on some of your motors...that's always sweet :cool:.

http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/StoreFront

all_up_in_the_air
12-17-2008, 04:04 AM
Looks like you finally dropped FeeBay Jeff, I don't blame ya. I like the refinements made to your new site, looks good. It also looks like you dropped the price on some of your motors...that's always sweet :cool:.

http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/StoreFront

Yes, I'm all done with eBay. When I started selling there, the store selling fees were 7%. They increased the fees to 10%, and then recently to 12%. Enough said....

Prof100
12-17-2008, 04:18 AM
Yes, I'm all done with eBay. When I started selling there, the store selling fees were 7%. They increased the fees to 10%, and then recently to 12%. Enough said....

WOW, that's a whopping 71% INCREASE in fees. YIKES.

BTW, I like that new MG servo. I was thinking about getting a couple for a new Megafly.

Bill

smokejohnson
12-17-2008, 04:26 AM
I think I'm going to give one of these a try on my Hobby Lobby Yak.

http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the-1424/2830-dsh-09-Outrunner-Brushless-Electric/Detail

all_up_in_the_air
12-17-2008, 04:56 AM
I would like some opinoins here:

I've considered having a "Bargain Basement - No Returns Accepted" category in my store. I would sell some of the exact same products HC sells so dirt cheap, and I could offer them at very competitive pricing if I didn't have to deal with returns.

I get the feeling that a lot of people buy those items directly from Hong Kong with the thought that they probably won't try to get them replaced if they're defective anyway.

I'm just wondering how people might view this. As a seller, I see this as a way to really give HC some serious price competition, but I don't want to attempt it if it will damage our reputation for good customer service.

Is this something you would like me to try? Good reasons for and against this idea will be appreciated...

stevecooper
12-17-2008, 05:09 AM
I would like some opinoins here:

I've considered having a "Bargain Basement - No Returns Accepted" category in my store. I would sell some of the exact same products HC sells so dirt cheap, and I could offer them at very competitive pricing if I didn't have to deal with returns.

I get the feeling that a lot of people buy those items directly from Hong Kong with the thought that they probably won't try to get them replaced if they're defective anyway.

I'm just wondering how people might view this. As a seller, I see this as a way to really give HC some serious price competition, but I don't want to attempt it if it will damage our reputation for good customer service.

Is this something you would like me to try? Good reasons for and against this idea will be appreciated...
Their service sucks and I'd rather know I was gett'in from you on a no return deal up-front than from them know'in what'll happen if you need service,:ws: I've got a horror story go'in on with them as we speak::o over a antenna-less receiver they said over an over again they'd make right only to make me go though the motions over & over & over & over, your my guy from now on ( except for Jason at GWS prop's for my planes & three blade spinners:cool:), thanks Jeff,:D bub, steve

gfdengine204
12-17-2008, 05:16 AM
I would like some opinoins here:

I've considered having a "Bargain Basement - No Returns Accepted" category in my store. I would sell some of the exact same products HC sells so dirt cheap, and I could offer them at very competitive pricing if I didn't have to deal with returns.

I get the feeling that a lot of people buy those items directly from Hong Kong with the thought that they probably won't try to get them replaced if they're defective anyway.

I'm just wondering how people might view this. As a seller, I see this as a way to really give HC some serious price competition, but I don't want to attempt it if it will damage our reputation for good customer service.

Is this something you would like me to try? Good reasons for and against this idea will be appreciated...

Jeff,

Are these "reconditioned" items, or first runs? If we purchased them, should we assume they would be working when they arrive, just unable to return them should a problem arise?

I guess one of my big reasons I like buying my stuff from you is if there ever is a problem, I know you are a stand-up retailer and stand behind your product. (Note: I have never had a major issue, just a couple missing grub screws, which you took good care of immediately. I have read of others you have taken great care of in the rare instances there has been a problem) I very very rarely buy anything with a "no-return" policy, hence my trepidation here.

Prof100
12-17-2008, 05:17 AM
I would like some opinoins here:

I've considered having a "Bargain Basement - No Returns Accepted" category in my store. I would sell some of the exact same products HC sells so dirt cheap, and I could offer them at very competitive pricing if I didn't have to deal with returns.

I get the feeling that a lot of people buy those items directly from Hong Kong with the thought that they probably won't try to get them replaced if they're defective anyway.

I'm just wondering how people might view this. As a seller, I see this as a way to really give HC some serious price competition, but I don't want to attempt it if it will damage our reputation for good customer service.

Is this something you would like me to try? Good reasons for and against this idea will be appreciated...

Jeff,

Create the bargain basement and state clearly that there is NO warranty expressed or implied.

Hobby King, Hobby City, United Hobbies or whatever Andrew Hand calls it these days. I do buy from them but completely understand their "warranty" is not a warranty. HC lays down broken glass, obstacles the size of Asia, and they delay, delay, delay all to assure the hassle factor is sky high so the customer with a claim just won't pursue it.

You'll have to be wary of snipes from people who can read but end up buying an as-is no warranty motor only to complain and whine about lack of service. Guaranteed this will happen no matter if the NO WARRANTY statement is in 36 point font.

By the way, add the Suppo product line of motors and escs. There is nothing better for a foamy pusher jet than a 50 gram 2212-06 motor and 30 or 40 amp esc.

Because you have such a great reputation for standing behind asian RC motors, and other you need to properly position the bargain basement. Perhaps renaming it like Horizon does with their as-is no warranty clearance site on ebay. But I feel cool with knowing I am buying new stock that I take the risk on it arriving dead, just like you do when you buy from overseas.

edit: I picture a link to Jeff's Bargain Basement that once clicked, has Terms and Conditions popup that states clearly that entering the site means you will being buying new product that carries no warranty expressed or applied. Click here to Accept. I would add another twist to the Bargain basement. I would not sell singles, I would only sell in lots of 3, 5, and more to turn your inventory. if people only want to buy one at a time they can go back to the standard HeadsupRC site.

Bill

gfdengine204
12-17-2008, 05:20 AM
Bill raises a good point; have you considered expanding your product line beyond TowerPro for your motors? I've never (knock on wood) had a problem with them, but am always looking for more choices.

Jeff, you almost have your own forum here as it is, eh? ;)

all_up_in_the_air
12-17-2008, 05:50 AM
Already some great input...thanks!

The products would be brand new items. For eaxmple, HC sells a Tower Pro motor and speed control for $14.95, and it includes a propeller too! Well, this is a promotional item that I have access to, the same as HC. There is no way that I can match that price, due to the cost of getting the product from China to the USA. I can come close though, IF I don't have to deal with returns. When you cut the profit margin that close, just one return cancels out the profit in many sales.

From the comments above, I'm pretty reluctant to proceed with this. I suspect that I WILL have customers complaining if they receive a faulty item, as Bill pointed out. And Kev's comment as to why he buys from me shows why I should be concerned about trading good customer service for rock bottom pricing.

Maybe I can split the difference.....

As for expanding the product line...I'm working on it ;-)

Thanks for the input...it really IS appreciated!

all_up_in_the_air
12-17-2008, 05:56 AM
Because you have such a great reputation for standing behind asian RC motors, and other you need to properly position the bargain basement. Perhaps renaming it like Horizon does with their as-is no warranty clearance site on ebay. But I feel cool with knowing I am buying new stock that I take the risk on it arriving dead, just like you do when you buy from overseas.

edit: I picture a link to Jeff's Bargain Basement that once clicked, has Terms and Conditions popup that states clearly that entering the site means you will being buying new product that carries no warranty expressed or applied. Click here to Accept. I would add another twist to the Bargain basement. I would not sell singles, I would only sell in lots of 3, 5, and more to turn your inventory. if people only want to buy one at a time they can go back to the standard HeadsupRC site.

Bill

I like this idea...going to give it some thought!

Prof100
12-17-2008, 06:05 AM
Already some great input...thanks!

The products would be brand new items. For eaxmple, HC sells a Tower Pro motor and speed control for $14.95, and it includes a propeller too! Well, this is a promotional item that I have access to, the same as HC. There is no way that I can match that price, due to the cost of getting the product from China to the USA. I can come close though, IF I don't have to deal with returns. When you cut the profit margin that close, just one return cancels out the profit in many sales.

From the comments above, I'm pretty reluctant to proceed with this. I suspect that I WILL have customers complaining if they receive a faulty item, as Bill pointed out. And Kev's comment as to why he buys from me shows why I should be concerned about trading good customer service for rock bottom pricing.

Maybe I can split the difference.....

As for expanding the product line...I'm working on it ;-)

Thanks for the input...it really IS appreciated!

Jeff,

The "bargain basement" has to be obvious. In brick and mortar stores it's obvious. When I go to upscale furniture stores and they have a Clearance Center its usually in warehouse part of the store. Items, while new are clearly labeled as as-is no warranty. However, in the world of etailing the storefront is the website and the difference must be drastic on the screen to prevent confusion or customer amnesia. Tthat's why it's key to build a different looking bargain basement that it looks and feels differen and it merely links to your standard store.

all_up_in_the_air
12-17-2008, 06:14 AM
Jeff,

The "bargain basement" has to be obvious. In brick and mortar stores it's obvious. When I go to upscale furniture stores and they have a Clearance Center its usually in warehouse part of the store. Items, while new are clearly labeled as as-is no warranty. However, in the world of etailing the storefront is the website and the difference must be drastic on the screen to prevent confusion or customer amnesia. Tthat's why it's key to build a different looking bargain basement that it looks and feels differen and it merely links to your standard store.

That's an excellent point. If I proceed, that's probably the route I will go.
Sounds like you have some experience in marketing.....
Thanks again!

Prof100
12-17-2008, 06:52 AM
That's an excellent point. If I proceed, that's probably the route I will go.
Sounds like you have some experience in marketing.....
Thanks again!

Jeff,

Glad to help you out. You've alway run your business just like you'd like to be treated as a customer. Good value, no hassle and no surpises. It's commendable and most appreciated.

Yes, I have few years in marketing and market research.

Fly Time
12-17-2008, 06:54 AM
I think I'm going to give one of these a try on my Hobby Lobby Yak.

http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the-1424/2830-dsh-09-Outrunner-Brushless-Electric/Detail

Here's the motor I have on my H-L Yak 55

http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the-1418/2410-dsh-09Y-Outrunner-Brushless-Electric/Detail

It's not as pretty as the one you were looking at but it's all the power you'll ever need on that plane for half the cost. I added landing gear to mine (much more fun) and fly with a GWS 10x6 (http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the-1445/GWS-EP1060-Propellers-FIVE/Detail) and a 3S 1500mAh lipo. Long flight time and unlimited vertical :cool:

smokejohnson
12-17-2008, 02:30 PM
I would like some opinoins here:

Is this something you would like me to try? Good reasons for and against this idea will be appreciated...

I think as long as it was just a few items separated from your regular good deals it would be alright. Your great service is always one of the first things mentioned when linking to your store. You have done a great job of building a solid reputation.

Here's the motor I have on my H-L Yak 55

http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the-1418/2410-dsh-09Y-Outrunner-Brushless-Electric/Detail

It's not as pretty as the one you were looking at but it's all the power you'll ever need on that plane for half the cost. I added landing gear to mine (much more fun) and fly with a GWS 10x5 (http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the-1445/GWS-EP1060-Propellers-FIVE/Detail) and a 3S 1500mAh lipo. Long flight time and unlimited vertical :cool:

Thanks Doug. The main reason for wanting the more expensive motor is that it will drop right in my RichModels Yak (http://ak-models.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AKM&Product_Code=RM-E11&Category_Code=ElectricAirplane) with out any modifications.

all_up_in_the_air
12-17-2008, 03:18 PM
I think as long as it was just a few items separated from your regular good deals it would be alright.

I'm not sure about having the items in my regular store though. I think the idea of having a link to a separate site that is clearly different would be the way to go. That way, I wouldn't be risking our reputation for good customer service.
This is something that will have to wait till after the Chinese New Year, as most of the factories shut down for about 3 weeks in Jan/Feb.
I'll give it some more thought, and make a decision by mid-January.
Thanks for the input!

gfdengine204
12-17-2008, 03:37 PM
I'm not sure about having the items in my regular store though. I think the idea of having a link to a separate site that is clearly different would be the way to go. That way, I wouldn't be risking our reputation for good customer service.
This is something that will have to wait till after the Chinese New Year, as most of the factories shut down for about 3 weeks in Jan/Feb.
I'll give it some more thought, and make a decision by mid-January.
Thanks for the input!

Jeff,

Were you to open a secondary storefront, separated from HURC, might be the ideal way to go. Then, should a problem arise, it insulates your primary from the bargain-basement setups. By secondary, I mean a second domain, completely divided from HURC. Make sense?

all_up_in_the_air
12-17-2008, 03:55 PM
Jeff,

Were you to open a secondary storefront, separated from HURC, might be the ideal way to go. Then, should a problem arise, it insulates your primary from the bargain-basement setups. By secondary, I mean a second domain, completely divided from HURC. Make sense?

Yes, I agree completely. Then I'll leave the advertising for the site up to you guys....and we'll give HC a run for their money :)

Fly Time
12-17-2008, 04:33 PM
Chiming into the conversation a little late, but here's by 2 pennies:

It sounds like you're already onto this line of thinking, but don't try to beat HC at their own game under the HeadsUp name. HeadsUp has built an excellent rep for very reasonable prices, great customer service, quick and cheap shipping, and (what I like most) extensive info about each product sold.

Fly Time
12-17-2008, 06:48 PM
Didn't really finish my point on the last post. My wife and daughter walked into room and distracted me.

Anyway....

To compete with HC you have to understand what makes them successful. HC works when you are buying more than one or two things (otherwise shipping kills you), and when you can satisfy yourself that the items you are buying are of good quality and that returns are unlikely. That is why the customer reviews are so valuable. You can greatly reduce the chance that you end up with a bad product by reading the reviews.

They also have a huge selection. I doubt you could approach them on that, so best to focus on products that you know will sell.

So, match them on price. Beat them on product inormation. Concede to them selection and return policy (remember that their return policy is by and large a false promise anyway).

Where you can easily beat HC is in shipping cost and delivery time (at least to USA and Canada). If you can structure shipping costs to encourage bulk purchases while still beating HC in cost and shipping time, then you will win over a lot of customers.

Also, in my opinion, you could only get away with a no returns policy if you are selling items that you know to be of reliable quality. For every defective product that ships, you will have an unsatisfied customer who is less likely to return. And it wouldn't hurt to articulate the reason for a no returns policy. Let the customer understand that they are receiving a discount for accepting the risk that a product may not work.

gfdengine204
12-17-2008, 07:07 PM
Jeff,

Another thing to look at, perhaps, is if the products you wish to offer with a no-return policy have a manufacturer warranty. If so, then if it can't be returned to the vendor (you), it STILL can be handled by the manufacturer.

Just another $.02 to add to the jar. :)

pburt1975
12-17-2008, 07:23 PM
Jeff, what do you do with the returns? eat the cost? Why not include a section in the "Bargain Basement" for those items? The DIYer's junk box or something. Since it would already require signing off on "No Warrenty" it'd be a good place to dump that stuff thats a whole in your pocket otherwise.

Im sure there's a few diy guys that would rewind the TP motors even if they bought it new.

all_up_in_the_air
12-18-2008, 02:38 AM
Where you can easily beat HC is in shipping cost and delivery time (at least to USA and Canada). If you can structure shipping costs to encourage bulk purchases while still beating HC in cost and shipping time, then you will win over a lot of customers.

Also, in my opinion, you could only get away with a no returns policy if you are selling items that you know to be of reliable quality. For every defective product that ships, you will have an unsatisfied customer who is less likely to return. And it wouldn't hurt to articulate the reason for a no returns policy. Let the customer understand that they are receiving a discount for accepting the risk that a product may not work.

You've made some very good points.
I would be selling some of the same products that I do now, so quality isn't really an issue. I would want people to know that they are accepting a small risk to get a great price.
I'm not sure about the "bulk purchases" angle. Prof100 mentioned that also and I'll have to do some thinking on it.

all_up_in_the_air
12-18-2008, 02:41 AM
Jeff,

Another thing to look at, perhaps, is if the products you wish to offer with a no-return policy have a manufacturer warranty. If so, then if it can't be returned to the vendor (you), it STILL can be handled by the manufacturer.

Just another $.02 to add to the jar. :)

They could probably return the products to the manufacturer, but you run into the same problem as returning items to HC...high shipping cost and long waits :(

all_up_in_the_air
12-18-2008, 02:44 AM
Jeff, what do you do with the returns? eat the cost? Why not include a section in the "Bargain Basement" for those items? The DIYer's junk box or something. Since it would already require signing off on "No Warrenty" it'd be a good place to dump that stuff thats a whole in your pocket otherwise.

Im sure there's a few diy guys that would rewind the TP motors even if they bought it new.

Some items are returned to the manufacturer, and some are not. I do tend to end up with some odds and ends laying around, so this might be a good idea!

gfdengine204
12-18-2008, 02:56 AM
They could probably return the products to the manufacturer, but you run into the same problem as returning items to HC...high shipping cost and long waits :(

Yeah I hadn't thought of that. Duh me. ;)

Yaniel
12-18-2008, 03:51 AM
bookmarked the new site. your store was the only ebay store i had saved. always had great service!

Fly Time
12-19-2008, 09:37 PM
Hey Jeff, now that you are free of the eBay shackles, how about you offer props for sale individually? Sometimes I like getting a volume discount, but more often than not I don't need 5 of the same type of prop.

Prof100
12-19-2008, 10:02 PM
...
I'm not sure about the "bulk purchases" angle. Prof100 mentioned that also and I'll have to do some thinking on it.

Jeff,

Bulk packaging sales is only a good idea if you are trying to drive your total sales and you are trying to return your investment sooner.

Bill

Twmaster
12-19-2008, 10:16 PM
I ordered a motor from Jeff recently. Could not be happier with the price or service. Thanks Jeff!

all_up_in_the_air
12-19-2008, 11:13 PM
Hey Jeff, now that you are free of the eBay shackles, how about you offer props for sale individually? Sometimes I like getting a volume discount, but more often than not I don't need 5 of the same type of prop.

We plan to sell GWS props in packs of three and Tower Pro props in packs of two beginning early next year. The reason that we don't sell them individually is that it can really screw up our shipping costs. If a customer orders a 2410-09Y motor and GWS 1147 props, we have to use a 12 inch box rather than a much smaller box for just the motor. We need to make the props pay their way...it's one way we keep our shipping costs low ;-)

Fly Time
12-19-2008, 11:29 PM
We plan to sell GWS props in packs of three and Tower Pro props in packs of two beginning early next year. The reason that we don't sell them individually is that it can really screw up our shipping costs. If a customer orders a 2410-09Y motor and GWS 1147 props, we have to use a 12 inch box rather than a much smaller box for just the motor. We need to make the props pay their way...it's one way we keep our shipping costs low ;-)
You could always price them differently depending on how many are bought. That way you get the cost of the box paid for with the first prop sold. $2 for one, $3.50 for two, $5 for three. With these prices you are selling each prop for $1.50 plus 50 cents for the box. As a buyer, all I see is a discount for buying extra props.

Twmaster
12-19-2008, 11:35 PM
RE: Shipping:

Jeff....

I sell a lot of stuff on FeeBay. I use #3 bubble mailers for many things. GWS props fit in them nicely. They are light and cheap when bought by the case.

Just a suggestion.

stevecooper
12-19-2008, 11:44 PM
JeFF::: How about stock'in planes:ws:?????I'm not sure where I'd put-um but there's got to be someplace??:Q HaHaaa!your bub,:D steve

Bill G
12-21-2008, 06:02 AM
Why not just give a head's up to Head's Up RC?:D

I know that was stupid, but the title caught me.

xuzme720
12-21-2008, 06:16 AM
Catchy though!

gfdengine204
12-21-2008, 03:49 PM
JeFF::: How about stock'in planes:ws:?????I'm not sure where I'd put-um but there's got to be someplace??:Q HaHaaa!your bub,:D steve

Could you imagine if our fave 'net vendor (That would be Jeff @ HeadsUpRC) started selling GWS airframes? :D (hint, hint)

Slowjohn
12-21-2008, 05:33 PM
Could you imagine if our fave 'net vendor (That would be Jeff @ HeadsUpRC) started selling GWS airframes? :D (hint, hint)


Hmmmmmmm........:ws: or maybe even some new stuff little by little :cool:

SJ

gfdengine204
12-23-2008, 03:57 AM
Check out Model Aviation (January 2009), page 84, Question 383.

A little nice free advertising for Jeff. Business might be getting better soon!