edf F-104 ???????????

[kuzikood]

has anyone tried a f-104 edf yet its one of my favorite jets of all time and ive been toying around with building one if i could find some plans or blueprints somewhere
:D

[watt_the?!]

www.stumaxaircraft.com (http://www.stumaxaircraft.com)

watched it fly last weekend.

[NCC-1701]

Electric Aero Modeling eam.net is marketing Steve Neil's F-104 for the Wemotec Microfan. It can be modified for fixed landing gear.

Rob

[watt_the?!]

now thats more my size...for microfan!

wonder if hes got any beta testers...:D

[kuzikood]

beautiful aircraft but man i diddnt pay that much for the car i drive to work everyday lol
looks like a job for depron and some papertowle rolls for me lol

-kuzi-:p

[monkamarm2000]

Stu's and Steves are great planes and both are proven fliers. I have 2 of Steves micro's, one for pusher and one for micro fan. The Fan version is down for Vasa55 inplant. Back when we first did the Micro we only had Kan cells, but now with lipo they rock.


Barry

[kuzikood]

maybe if i make one big enough i can get away withoput using lippos dont have the time or the cash for them lol

[kuzikood]

now all i gotta do is find some prints from th efull scale i can size to my needs

[Gordon]

There's a nice plan for a built-up model of the F-104 designed by Ralf Dvorak for Sp400 motors at the bottom of this page:

http://www.vth.de/shop/shopfiles/shoppage.asp?TID=BLJ4N5DD03DR190589388&showcat=1&ps=1&tmpl=table&cid=36&sparte=2

It should be possible to make it from Depron.

Gordon

[kuzikood]

thanks man its what in looking for ...now does anyone know what 9000 euros is in american ? lol

[trondb]

There's a nice plan for a built-up model of the F-104 designed by Ralf Dvorak for Sp400 motors at the bottom of this page:

http://www.vth.de/shop/shopfiles/shoppage.asp?TID=BLJ4N5DD03DR190589388&showcat=1&ps=1&tmpl=table&cid=36&sparte=2

It should be possible to make it from Depron.

Gordon

Built one from that plan (balsa-ply). A lot of cutting and planking job. Flown once last year with Vasa65 fan ,Mega16/15/2 ,2-cell lithium. A little underpowered with this setup so I have now modified it with a Wemotec Mini-fan and 3-cell Kokam 3200. Flight behavior was promising ,so it should get moving more like a jet with my new upgrade..??

[watt_the?!]

that is gorgeous...beautiful work mate...why not try the alfa fan as it is 60mm v the vasa's 65mm...

the alfa will give you a bunch of thrust too..see roccobro's test data here on it.

tim.

[gouch]

now all i gotta do is find some prints from th efull scale i can size to my needs

I don't know if this pic helps any, but here it is, and here is where I got it from. For those that don't already know, the site is full of military 3 views.

http://hawker.smugmug.com/gallery/92080/2/3227166

Cheers
Paul

[tashley]

that is gorgeous...beautiful work mate...why not try the alfa fan as it is 60mm v the vasa's 65mm...

the alfa will give you a bunch of thrust too..see roccobro's test data here on it.

tim.

Just Gorgeous is right!!!

[kuzikood]

just what i was looking for thanks!

-kuzi-

[Gordon]

Hi Tronb

Your 104 is an absolute beauty - what a lovely machine to feature in your first post on this forum! Thanks for posting :)

Hope you have eagle eyes - you'll be punching about 450W into it when you fire up the 16/15/2 + MF480 on that 3s Kokam :D

Gordon

[kuzikood]

man one day i sure need to learn to speak "brushless" lol

-kuzi-

[tashley]

Watt are you talking about?:D

[kuzikood]

worst part is i know electrical and electronics heck im ASE certified in automotive electrical lol and i still can only follow small bits of "brushless" talk hehehehehe

-kuzi-

[Speed is Life]

This thread looked like it needed a boost!
These were posted on that "other" place, but maybe better deserve to be here.
Stumax F-104, DS30, Mega16/20/2(from Termite), pilot from............Steve.
-Mike

[turbonut]

Yea and I think mike built it in a week! almost..
One more edf god!mike that is!

Scott

[tashley]

Gotta love a one o four. Very nice!

[Speed is Life]

Thanks for the complements guys.
It took a weeks worth of days stretched into about 6 or 7 weeks due to my work schedule & really cold weather.
I'm trying to get together with Ken Williams (of K&A Models) to have him shoot some video of the Zipper and my K&A F-84. I'll be sure to share when/if it becomes a reality.
-Mike

[drksyd]

Nice job on Stu's 104 Mike. Is it bungee launched or do you have gear?

[Speed is Life]

Nice job on Stu's 104 Mike. Is it bungee launched or do you have gear?

Hi, Sorry for the delay in the reply, I've been on the road @ work.

I bungee since we have a great groomed grass flying site!
'Turbonut" is working on one that will have retracts.
-Mike

[Bmiller]

Electric Aero Modeling eam.net is marketing Steve Neil's F-104 for the Wemotec Microfan. It can be modified for fixed landing gear.

Rob

I don't see it on their site anymore????????

[Speed is Life]

I think I remember seeing something a couple months ago about Steve no longer producing the mini F-104........
-Mike

[drksyd]

Unfortunately Steve can't work with the resins anymore so he won't be making anymore kits/fuse's/planes. EAM has the rights to Steve's 104, might want to contact them to see if and when they'll be available.

[Bmiller]

Yes it's extremely unfortunate about his hitting the epoxy tolerance limit.
His original one was made of foam and silkspanned.
It only needed LiPo technology (that wasn't around yet!)to really fly well.
Were the EAM kitted ones glass?

[Ace Eli]

Add me to the list as a buyer of a 106

[Gordito Volador]

I may be mistaken, but didn't the Savage brothers do a microfan F104 a few years ago? I have the Stumax 104, but I am waiting on Turbonut to finish his retract install so I can take the easy way out!

Regards, Bill

[turbonut]

Bill ,I should have some pics next weekend!
Scott

[Gordito Volador]

Scott,

That sounds great man. You are now using Larry's micro retracts, correct?

Regards, Bill

[turbonut]

Yep! the linkage was a pain with the mechanical type. could be made to work but this is better!( I hope)

[bobthenuke]

I missed the original release of Steve's F-104 and was waiting for EAM to release it, but this will not apparently happen, at least for the time being.

I was fortunate to be offered one of the original "Steve" kits so I jumped on it. I haven't finished it yet, but hope to soon. I've been undecided as to whether or not I want to do the elevator/stab combo as in the original configuration or go to a flying stab like the Stumax model...decisions, decisions... :)

If anyone is interested here's where I picked up the thread when I got mine.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131789&page=46&pp=15


bob

[Speed is Life]

Halleluya Brothers -

StuMax sez that the parts I need to raise my 104 from the dead will ship this coming week.

I'll keep you posted.
-Mike

[turbonut]

Hell mike yours will be born twice before mine sees open sky!
Scott

[Speed is Life]

Geez..........get with it Scott! The things don't improve with age. (unlike all of us over 50 guys)

Depending upon delivery hassles, and my schedule, I'm not sure that it'll fly before about August at any rate.
-Mike

[Speed is Life]

Update. Stu has shipped the parts to get my F-104 back together. Now it's all up to Australian Post and (don't hold your breath) US Customs.




Bob,
What's the status on your "mini-me" F-104?


........................I was fortunate to be offered one of the original "Steve" kits so I jumped on it. I haven't finished it yet, but hope to soon.................
bob

-Mike

[turbonut]

hey Mike! I think it was less than two weeks for mine form Stu!
Scott

[Speed is Life]

Gotta hand it to Australia Post.........and Stu.
Parts arrived yesterday AND in good shape! One week, not bad.
I'll keep the progress on the rebuild up to date as it gets underway.
-Mike


hey Mike! I think it was less than two weeks for mine form Stu!
Scott

[bobthenuke]

Mike,

It's still 90% complete. I just haven't had any time to work on it. We're in our "building" time now since it's so hot and I hope to get it complete soon.

bob


Update. Stu has shipped the parts to get my F-104 back together. Now it's all up to Australian Post and (don't hold your breath) US Customs.




Bob,
What's the status on your "mini-me" F-104?



-Mike

[Tumbler]

There's a nice plan for a built-up model of the F-104 designed by Ralf Dvorak for Sp400 motors at the bottom of this page:

http://www.vth.de/shop/shopfiles/shoppage.asp?TID=BLJ4N5DD03DR190589388&showcat=1&ps=1&tmpl=table&cid=36&sparte=2

It should be possible to make it from Depron.

Gordon

Can anyone tell me how I can get these plans and how much they are. I can't read the info on the site?

Thanks,

Brian

[Demetrius]

I am wondering if anyone wanted to part with there's? I am in search of one! thanks :)

[termite]

I'd like to find one to Andrew but I think we are "poop" out of luck :p

Randy

[Speed is Life]

I am wondering if anyone wanted to part with there's? I am in search of one! thanks :)

You are talking about the "Stumax" model right?
According to Stu he only sold about 12 of the kits worldwide so they are a bit scarce to say the least. Mine, Turbonut's, Gordito's and one in Michigan/Wisconsin/Minnesota somewhere are the only ones that I know about here in the States.
My last communication with Stu, to get the parts to fix mine, led me to believe that he is too busy trying to make a living to be able to produce kits for the forseeable future.
Just a guess, but maybe if there were 3 or 4 guys that were willing to pop for a cash deposit, that he might make a run of 104's as opposed to a one off kind of deal? Australian summer is still 6 months away though and he apparently doesn't like to do glasswork except in the warmer months............
Count me in for another if there is any chance of a "mass order" attempt.
-Mike

[Speed is Life]

Started the rebuild of the 104..................
Stripped and cleaned up the usable bits off the wrecked fuselage, got the motor/tail attach bulkhead installed, canopy hatch fitted.

Wing mount next, then ducts and intake lips, etc., etc...........
-Mike

[Appie]

There's a nice plan for a built-up model of the F-104 designed by Ralf Dvorak for Sp400 motors at the bottom of this page,
http://www.vth.de/shop/shopfiles/shoppage.asp?TID=BLJ4N5DD03DR190589388&showcat=1&p s=1&tmpl=table&cid=36&sparte=2 (http://www.vth.de/shop/shopfiles/shoppage.asp?TID=BLJ4N5DD03DR190589388&showcat=1&ps=1&tmpl=table&cid=36&sparte=2)

Built one from that plan (balsa-ply). A lot of cutting and planking job. Flown once last year with Vasa65 fan ,Mega16/15/2 ,2-cell lithium. A little underpowered with this setup so I have now modified it with a Wemotec Mini-fan and 3-cell Kokam 3200. Flight behavior was promising ,so it should get moving more like a jet with my new upgrade..??

TRONDB,

That looks absolutely VERY GOOD, Super, I have to check this one out for myself, so I ordered the plan(s) (there only € 14,=) so we’ll give it a try…….. 600W+ in this baby?.. Yeah should be a rocket:D

Have fun,

Appie

[Bmiller]

I am wondering if anyone wanted to part with there's? I am in search of one! thanks :)

You might "borrow" Turbonuts, finish it, fly it for a few months,
then put it back in his garage....He'll never know!:p


Bruce

[Speed is Life]

Speaking of turbonut..............come on Scott, get that 104 going.

Mines about ready to go again.............:D
-Mike

[Bmiller]

Hey I was only kidding Scott!;) I know you build about 12 models at the same time!
Looking good Mike! It lives again!:)
When's the RE-maiden flight?

Bruce

[turbonut]

No worries Bruce..I jsut havent posted any new pics yet untill she is painted..Did finnish the 163 and the H1 is getting the chrome covering now...

[turbonut]

hey anybody seen roccobro latley?

[Bmiller]

You're closest (distancewise)to him!
That boys burned out or maybe busy watching his electric meter spin backwards because of his new solarpanels!;)

Your 163 looks awesome!
H1? Thats the Howard Hughes plane, right? In chrome no less! nice!

[Cpt.TYPHOON]

This thread looked like it needed a boost!
These were posted on that "other" place, but maybe better deserve to be here.
Stumax F-104, DS30, Mega16/20/2(from Termite), pilot from............Steve.
-Mike

Cheers "SPEED"

I have got in here and saw your post with a photo of a ladie who hold a great looking F-104 in her arms. Great looking woman, but I was interested about this F-104 that she is holding. Who as build that one and as the threat is a old one, I was wondering if they are still around to purchase and who are making them?. By the way, is this jet yours?, and where would I have threat about it, or anyother threat about F-104 of about the same size.

Ps: Is it a EDF?, only interested in EDF and not pusher one.

Thanks Buddy !!!

Cpt."TYPHOON"

[Speed is Life]

Hiya "Cpt.T",
I've pretty much left WFlyer these days but just stopped in to see if anything of interest was going on.
Yea, my wife is a "keeper".

The 104 is from Stumax http://www.stumaxaircraft.com/
EDF for 69mm fan like a 480MiniFan or DS30. Needs 700watts or so for good performance.
Stu Maxwell from Australia does a limited run of kits now & then.
Search "F-104" on RCG's for more threads.........mine and maybe 2 others are the only ones out of 20 or so kits sold worldwide to actually get built and fly.
Cheers,
-Mike

[Cpt.TYPHOON]

Good morn "SPEED"

I agree with you sir, your ladie is a "KEEPER" ...

And thanks for your reply about my post to you. Yesturday I came with a decision to witch jets I'll fly and build. I order a F/A-18 EDF from (KMP & PARKPILOT) It is 68 lenght , 44 wing. Peoples are building that one with twins 90mm or single 120mm, I will do the 120mm version as I will get gears in. For my part it will be a scale project and I dont plan to fly it this year as I will do pretty all to be scale reel as F/A-18. I have so many ideas to how I will build it, and I am shure I'll glass it all for long flying life.

Well "SPEED" I'll be around and again thanks for your reply...

Good day to you and your "sweetheart" ladie!

Regards
Cpt.TYPHOON