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BradFish1
07-28-2007, 02:58 AM
Does anyone sell any Piper scale electric ARFs other than cubs?

buzzbomber
09-14-2007, 03:10 PM
Haven't seen any. I have seen a Tri-Pacer kit, but it was a big 'un. Herr does sell a Cherokee kit too, but nobody makes ARFs other than cubs/supercubs that I've seen.

ENUT
10-30-2007, 02:55 AM
Wendell Hostetler's plans has a couple different piper planes.These plans can be reduced as most of them are for giant scale.
www.aero-sports.com/whplans

ENUT

Greg Lewis
01-14-2008, 06:41 PM
http://www.gravesrc.com/photos/DMZ9404-1.jpg (http://www.gravesrc.com/DMZ9404_DMZ_CHEROKEE_EP_400_ARF_BLUE_p/dmz9404.htm)
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haze_b
01-14-2008, 07:31 PM
Aloha,

Don't know what size model you're looking for but here are a few ARF options, ranging from .15 size to .40 size. Here are 2 Pawnees and a Cherokee.

Pawnee .15e
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFL2650

Pawnee .40 (easy conversion)
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN4030

Cherokee .40 (easy conversion)
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN1900

Good luck and happy flying :ws:

Fly Time
01-22-2008, 08:10 PM
Aloha,

Don't know what size model you're looking for but here are a few ARF options, ranging from .15 size to .40 size. Here are 2 Pawnees and a Cherokee.

Pawnee .15e
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFL2650

Pawnee .40 (easy conversion)
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN4030

Cherokee .40 (easy conversion)
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN1900

Good luck and happy flying :ws:

I occasionally fly with a guy that has the Hangar 9 Cherokee powered with a 4 stroke Saito. It's a real nice flying airplane and does a lot more than the full sized airplane could in terms of aerobatics. It is big though, so converting to electric could be an expensive task.

haze_b
01-22-2008, 09:53 PM
D Payne,

The .40 size examples would work well with the following setups. If power system cost is the primary concern, the info below should give you an idea of actual cost. You may change your mind.

E-flight Power 46 or AXI 4120 (or equiv motor)
60 amp (min) ESC
4S 4000 Lipo
12x10 - 14x10 APC prop (13x8 works well for my .40 airframes)

Keep in mind that there are many lower cost alternatives for power system choices.

Check out www.unitedhobbies.com (http://www.unitedhobbies.com) for lower cost motor/esc combos
and www.skysharkrc.com (http://www.skysharkrc.com) for lipo's (I don't trust the united hobbies batteries. They seem to always puff)

Good luck.

Fly Time
01-22-2008, 10:23 PM
D Payne,

The .40 size examples would work well with the following setups. If power system cost is the primary concern, the info below should give you an idea of actual cost. You may change your mind.

E-flight Power 46 or AXI 4120 (or equiv motor)
60 amp (min) ESC
4S 4000 Lipo
12x10 - 14x10 APC prop (13x8 works well for my .40 airframes)

Keep in mind that there are many lower cost alternatives for power system choices.

Check out www.unitedhobbies.com (http://www.unitedhobbies.com) for lower cost motor/esc combos
and www.skysharkrc.com (http://www.skysharkrc.com) for lipo's (I don't trust the united hobbies batteries. They seem to always puff)

Good luck.

It's the 4 cell lipo that really busts the bank! Especially if you want more than one. I actually have no interest in converting this plane for myself. Just wanted to report that I've seen it fly and was impressed.

haze_b
01-23-2008, 01:05 AM
I hear ya bro'.

Lipos are always the main issue when moving up in size. It will be nice when a better and cheaper electric alternative comes out. (I can dream, can't I?) ;-)

Jollyroger
03-21-2008, 08:13 PM
I hear ya bro'.

Lipos are always the main issue when moving up in size. It will be nice when a better and cheaper electric alternative comes out. (I can dream, can't I?) ;-)
When converting larger .40 size planes, Lipos may not be the end all, be all for that particular plane. I would suggest the possibility of using the (nanophosphate Lithium) A-123 cells. The cost is much less, easier and safer to use and may provide the necessary weight to achieve the correct CG.
I've flown my old LT-40 with everything from an old Astro 25G, Keller 50-5 on a Graupner belt drive and a Mega brushless/MEC gearbox combo. I used GP 3300 NiMh from 16 to 20 cells.
With .40 size planes, I generally use a 5S Lipo. I backed off on my Goldberg Tiger 2 conversion, dropping down from a 6S pack to a 5S pack and changing the gear ratio. Made quite a bit of difference in performance while still using an APCE 13X6.5 prop.
Lots of options now for motors and if you want to spend more on a battery pack, there are the motors from such dealers as United Hobbies.
I have converted a number of .40 size planes and in the process of finishing a Sig Citabria, which will be powered by an Atlas outrunner and a 5S pack. I'm going to Toledo, so I'll have a chance to check out the A-123 cells and may buy a bunch.
Sooner or later I'm going to get into 1/4 scale such as a Cub or T-Craft (Wendell Hostettler) or maybe a Balsa USA kit. As it I have a spare Hacker A50-12S outrunner waiting for a .60 size plane.
With the advent of the A-123 and more competitive pricing on Lipos, it's now easier than ever to convert larger planes. Fun factor goes up too.:cool:
cheerio and see ya at Toledo! jollyroger

Sabrehawk
04-02-2008, 08:21 PM
Hi fellas, Chuck here and a new guy on the block over here at wattflyer.
Not new to R/C or forums though.;)

I have ordered one of those DMZ Cherokees though mine is the Graupner one but I have checked it out and they are one and the same.
Graupner has discontinued the Cherokee but apprently Modelflight still has some as that's where I ordered mine from.
http://www.modelflight.com.au/graupner/graupner_piper_cherokee.htm

Not bad at $88 methinks, but only the pudding will tell. I'll be sure to give a report on it when I get it ready for first flights.

Oh, BTW........hi Fly Time.......hope the weather let's us fly this weekend.;-)

Fly Time
04-02-2008, 08:33 PM
Uh oh, who let you in over here?! This used to be such a nice forum! ;):D

Wouldn't have taken you for a Cherokee guy. Seems like such a plane-jane bird for someone with Christen Eagles and P-51's to fly! It's all in how you fly it I suppose.

The weather has been great the last couple of days, if not a little cool. I flew through 4 batteries yesterday between a foggy dawn patrol with the Jenny and a long lunch with Kee and my Gee Bee (you know Kee? Tweed does.)

Anyway, welcome to WattFlyer SH.

Sabrehawk
04-03-2008, 12:34 AM
Yup, somebody left the door unlocked...........and in I went.:D

Well, I do have a somewhat diverse fleet, and I do like it that way. Not a one of my planes quite the same. But as for the Cherokee I've always had a place in my heart for this very popular GA light plane. I'd always said that if I am ever able to afford to go for a PPC I'd want to train in a Piper of this line. The Cherokee, Warrior, Archer and so on.
So I've actually always wanted an R/C model of it as well, but until I saw this one I hadnt seen any foam ARFs of it, only kits and plans.

So when I saw this one, and it's price I had to go for it, especially since I see that Graupner has discontinued it. It was a "get it while it's availible" thing. Plus hey, I drive a Cherokee so I gotta fly one too.:ws:

Jollyroger
04-03-2008, 03:35 PM
Just stay away from the Tomahawk. Worst piece of flying crap ever made. Can hardly get out of its own way let alone fly. I watched a guy take off in one with his 7 year old boy, even after a quarter mile past ROG it barely made it over 75 foot tall trees. Everyone watching was very concerned whether or not he was going to make it. Now I know why they're called widow makers.
A fellow clubmember once owned a Piper Cherokee Arrow. He couldn't say enough about it. I guess he fell in love with it, but sadly a heart attack put an end to his flying days. Selling it nearly broke his heart. he still flys R/C though.

Fly Time
04-03-2008, 05:38 PM
Just stay away from the Tomahawk. Worst piece of flying crap ever made. Can hardly get out of its own way let alone fly. I watched a guy take off in one with his 7 year old boy, even after a quarter mile past ROG it barely made it over 75 foot tall trees. Everyone watching was very concerned whether or not he was going to make it. Now I know why they're called widow makers.
A fellow clubmember once owned a Piper Cherokee Arrow. He couldn't say enough about it. I guess he fell in love with it, but sadly a heart attack put an end to his flying days. Selling it nearly broke his heart. he still flys R/C though.
I'm with you on the Tomahawk. I believe it is one of the few trainers that is not rated for spins. My recollection is that in the early days of production, the t-tail was breaking off in spins, so the FAA restricted the plane to straight and level flight.

E-Challenged
04-05-2008, 04:45 PM
I am completing a 72" wingspan Sig Cub with an AF25G motor and plan to use two $65 dollar 2200 3S 20C lipos in series. I use these same packs singly on smaller models. You can hook them up in parallel for motors that use 3S (12.6 volts fully charged). You will want 20C rated packs to sustain voltage/rpm with large props.
3S 2200 packs are often on sale and with series or parallel hoookups may be cheaper than 4S and 5S packs.

GreenAce92
04-05-2008, 05:31 PM
How about this one? Has it been mentioned yet?
http://www.hobbyzone.com/rc-planes-hangar9-piper-pawnee-40-arf.htm

Hmmm k, nevermind, how about the twin?

Sabrehawk
04-05-2008, 06:19 PM
Yeah that Pawnee is a beauty Greenace, I saw it the other day shopping around.
But it's way out of my league pricewise. I kinda like to stick with planes in the 1/10 scale range. When they get as big as that thing is, it gets reeeeeal expensive. And I like to be able to pack 4-5 planes ready to fly for transport.

GreenAce92
04-05-2008, 06:51 PM
I see. yeah big scale electrics are pretty expensive.

Bub Steve
04-05-2008, 07:18 PM
How about this one? Has it been mentioned yet?
http://www.hobbyzone.com/rc-planes-hangar9-piper-pawnee-40-arf.htm

Hmmm k, nevermind, how about the twin?
GreenieBub::Thats the same fite-pack your gonna need for the cub, your bub, steve