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qban_flyer
05-16-2006, 03:00 AM
Qban... Have you seen the ad for the Aero Ace Jet? I read in rcgroups or rcuniverse(can't remember which) that it should arrive late spring or early summer. This guy got one for doing an Aero Ace commercial. I could probably find the pic and post it here, as long as there isn't already a thread about it.
My TX now has the 8 NIMH battery mod. Seems to take a little longer to charge the plan. Just got back from a flight with the new TX. Worked great:D. The throttle is going to take some getting used to. With the spring removed it does feel so much better, easier to adjust and kinda nice not always having to keep a finger on the throttle. Here is a pic: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j117/duanemac/ModdedTX.jpg Sorry for the crappy pic.... soon time for a new camera.
While flying, the wind took me into a tree and knocked one of the lower wings off. I only had the lower wings off when I took the plane apart. So, I pulled off the other one to give the mono a try. :eek::eek::eek: Wow. Like everyone has said, it moves quick. The wind was just tossing it around when I moved out to the center of the field. Gotta say, I like with and without the lower wings.
I am wondering if the Aero Ace has broken a record for most threads/posts in shortest amount of time..... :)Please do post a pic of it.
I sure think this thread has got to be the W/F record holder! :D
firemanbill
05-16-2006, 03:12 AM
Well I got my second AHAA! today form twmaster, Thanks Mike!
I originally bought it as a gift for a friend but it is really begging to get out of the box and play with the other one... must... resist... the urge...:rolleyes:
Crimson
05-16-2006, 03:21 AM
Okay this is the Aero Ace Jet not yet released... The 1st link shows you the small pic of it that was in an Aero Ace ad. The 2nd link is a post about the f-16, but turns out the guys has the jet...
http://www.rcforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=460819&page=18&pp=15
http://www.rcforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=496840 He doesn't go into any detail of how well the plane performs. :cool: Damn links.....
I will grab the pics and host them on photobucket.
Crimson
05-16-2006, 03:34 AM
Here is the ad: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j117/duanemac/AeroAceJetAd.jpg
The AA, AA Jet, and F-16: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j117/duanemac/AeroAceJet.jpg
qban_flyer
05-16-2006, 03:53 AM
Well I got my second AHAA! today form twmaster, Thanks Mike!
I originally bought it as a gift for a friend but it is really begging to get out of the box and play with the other one... must... resist... the urge...:rolleyes: Do not resist, do not resist, do not resist! :D
I saw that one fly on its maiden. It flies better than my favorite one. Let it play with its friend. :p
Do not resist, do not resist, do not resist! :D
qban_flyer
05-16-2006, 03:56 AM
Here is the ad: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j117/duanemac/AeroAceJetAd.jpg
The AA, AA Jet, and F-16: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j117/duanemac/AeroAceJet.jpgI have to have both. I have to have both, I have to have both! :eek: :eek: :eek:
qban_flyer
05-16-2006, 03:58 AM
Okay this is the Aero Ace Jet not yet released... The 1st link shows you the small pic of it that was in an Aero Ace ad. The 2nd link is a post about the f-16, but turns out the guys has the jet...
http://www.rcforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=460819&page=18&pp=15
http://www.rcforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=496840 He doesn't go into any detail of how well the plane performs. :cool: Damn links.....
I will grab the pics and host them on photobucket.JEEEZZZ! I almost went into the Christian Singles Forum! Close call!!! :D
zappedalaskan
05-16-2006, 04:35 AM
Well I got my second AHAA! today form twmaster, Thanks Mike!
I originally bought it as a gift for a friend but it is really begging to get out of the box and play with the other one... must... resist... the urge...:rolleyes:
:) Here you go buddy, look what I got you..:rolleyes: :rolleyes: What? The wing is broke??:( :rolleyes: Well you will have to return it..:rolleyes: :rolleyes: lol
Maybe fly it just a little.. one pack can't hurt anything :D
I seen them at Wal-mart (finally) but they are $47.00 here. I had to pass. It was a cute little red guy though..
Take care AHAA fans :)
Jay
Gumby flies !
05-16-2006, 04:35 AM
:eek: WOW !! That F16 looks really sweet ! I think I can just make out little shrouds of some sort under the wings to protect the props ? But I wonder if that all foam fuse will make it harder to "tweak" her ? Seems like so much of the AHAA fun is in the mods, or at least in the "I wonder if this would make it fly a lil better ?" ....
I'd love to see video of one of these .... or better yet, a real one !!
qban_flyer
05-16-2006, 01:08 PM
:) Here you go buddy, look what I got you..:rolleyes: :rolleyes: What? The wing is broke??:( :rolleyes: Well you will have to return it..:rolleyes: :rolleyes: lol
Maybe fly it just a little.. one pack can't hurt anything :D
I seen them at Wal-mart (finally) but they are $47.00 here. I had to pass. It was a cute little red guy though..
Take care AHAA fans :)
JayRIP OFF! RIP OFF! RIP OFF! :mad:
firemanbill
05-16-2006, 02:26 PM
Do not resist, do not resist, do not resist! :D
I saw that one fly on its maiden. It flies better than my favorite one. Let it play with its friend. :p
Do not resist, do not resist, do not resist! :D
ok. You talked me into it.:D
qban_flyer
05-16-2006, 02:55 PM
ok. You talked me into it.:DGOOD, GOOD, GOOD. :D:D:D
Crimson
05-17-2006, 12:06 AM
I seen them at Wal-mart (finally) but they are $47.00 here. I had to pass. It was a cute little red guy though..
Take care AHAA fans :)
Jay
Holy flurking schnit, $47.00!!! I guess if you are in Alaska.... The only place I have found them is Toys R Us. $39 or out the door for $46 with the tax(canadian funds, I'm in the Toronto area). I have noticed aeroacemods is selling them on eBay for $32US+shipping, probably close to $47 delivered :rolleyes:.
qban_flyer
05-17-2006, 01:26 AM
I care not where the buyer is. Alaska is part of the USA, isn't it? I wonder how much they are going for in Honolulu, HI? $67? :confused:
I just come from about 45 minutes of AHAA!!! flying in my front yard. What a lovely little thing that model is. Hope the jets are just as nice. :D
KNUCKLE
05-17-2006, 01:35 AM
Hey everyone!
just recently discovered the wonderful world of the Aero Ace and I haven't been able to stop flying it.
What a SUPER-FANTASTIC little plane!
I've been out as much as possible despite all the windy and rainy conditions here in the toronto area right now. (just came in from about an hour of flying)
I'm glad I found a place with so many people that love this plane the way I do.
Long live the AHAA !!!
firemanbill
05-17-2006, 01:37 AM
Welcome Knuckle! I love it! Even your avatar is an AHAA! That's great!
Enjoy it here bud! We all do!
Bill
qban_flyer
05-17-2006, 01:53 AM
Hey everyone!
just recently discovered the wonderful world of the Aero Ace and I haven't been able to stop flying it.
What a SUPER-FANTASTIC little plane!
I've been out as much as possible despite all the windy and rainy conditions here in the toronto area right now. (just came in from about an hour of flying)
I'm glad I found a place with so many people that love this plane the way I do.
Long live the AHAA!!!HE, HE, HE! Welcome aboard! :D
Another one hooked on the humble AHAA!!! :D
KNUCKLE
05-17-2006, 02:01 AM
Thanks for the welcome!
Best money I've ever spent...hands down! ;)
qban_flyer
05-17-2006, 02:09 AM
Thanks for the welcome!
Best money I've ever spent...hands down! ;)You know it!!! :D
Crimson
05-17-2006, 02:17 AM
Welcome to the forum Knuckle. Good to see others in the area have discovered the AHAA! Just be careful in some of these winds. I lost my Ace for a night when I first got it. It stayed out in the rainstorm overnight, and found it the next day, washed up in the sewer. It is still my primary plane. Did you get your AHAA! at TRU, or elsewhere?? I just came in from some flying, just after the rain. Calm winds, some of the best flying I've had yet.
KNUCKLE
05-17-2006, 02:43 AM
Hey Crimson !
yeah got it at TRUs, went to zellers after the fact just to see if they had em. which they do but for $10 bones more! silly buggers.
I'd like to say i'm being careful, but alas i just love these damn things so much i'm flying the @#$% out of em! so far i've been really lucky and haven't had my plane stuck or lost anywhere for more than about 10 minutes. same with my friend, we were out about two weeks ago (just after finding these planes) and it was windy as hell. a gust grabbed his plane, shot it up about 50 feet in the air and took it for a ride around the neighbourhood, ha. we jumped in our cars and raced after it! somehow it managed not to land in someones yard and we found it 2 or 3 streets away!
we're tempting fate i know, but it's so much fun ;)
just came in from flying again myself had both my planes out for some really great/high runs. the lack of wind right now is stellar! wish every night was like this
JBRanger
05-17-2006, 04:43 AM
Hey Knuckle, welcome aboard the AHAA express! LOL! I love your avatar! That's awesome.
UAVPilot
05-17-2006, 07:51 AM
Hi
That was my pic of the Aero Ace jet and the F-16.
Good news! The Aero Ace Jet flys great, But takes more room to fly in. You can fly it in a Gym just fine, but probably not your house, At least , not in my house.:D It doesn't have the tendency to porpoise like the Bi plane and just flys more jet like actually. Even better is that it has the same radio system , but more powerful motors. They measure about 1 mm longer. Going to make for some great conversions:)
The F-16 is nothing like the Aero ace jet. It uses the equipment out of the dominator,(much heavier) and is made for large open areas only. Has a single stick radio, made for a younger crowd IMOP but it handles wind pretty well.
The F-16 should be on the market already ,but I don't have a date for you on the Aero Jet.
Any other questions just ask:)
qban_flyer
05-17-2006, 12:58 PM
Thanks for the info. Keep us up to date re date of release on the jet is at all possible. :)
Earle
05-17-2006, 04:22 PM
The wings and strruts are just glued on. A little wiggeling and they come right off but be careful when removing the struts if you want to reglue them later -they will fold or tear if you pull too hard. Some people are glueing the removed lower wings onto the upper ones to make a great glider. Some folks are also adding front cannards (little front facing wings) to add to stability and reduce porposing (a real problem for some of these AAs even with the elevators tabed all the way down (you can heat the tail boom a bit with a hair driere and dend it down a little to offset the porposoing). Good liuck - this is a great little plane. I am looking to see what Air Hogs comes up with using the same technology on a second generation plane (a jet is rummered for June).
Crimson
05-17-2006, 05:37 PM
Hi
That was my pic of the Aero Ace jet and the F-16.
Good news! The Aero Ace Jet flys great, But takes more room to fly in. You can fly it in a Gym just fine, but probably not your house, At least , not in my house.:D It doesn't have the tendency to porpoise like the Bi plane and just flys more jet like actually. Even better is that it has the same radio system , but more powerful motors. They measure about 1 mm longer. Going to make for some great conversions:)
The F-16 is nothing like the Aero ace jet. It uses the equipment out of the dominator,(much heavier) and is made for large open areas only. Has a single stick radio, made for a younger crowd IMOP but it handles wind pretty well.
The F-16 should be on the market already ,but I don't have a date for you on the Aero Jet.
Any other questions just ask:)
Thanx for posting info on the AA Jet UAVPilot. Is the transmitter the same as the AHAA! ? Same frequencies? I guess you are probably one of the first to own an AA Jet... :eek:
Earle
05-17-2006, 08:32 PM
The transmitter for the (old?) F16 does not activate any of the three Airo Aces but does interfer (cancles out) the signal from the A version. The transmitters for the AAs do not activate the F16.
qban_flyer
05-17-2006, 09:38 PM
I reduced the porpoising by at least 90% by adding a thumb tack to the nose of the plane. Looks fine, it resembles a round bumper. :eek:
KNUCKLE
05-17-2006, 10:10 PM
I reduced the porpoising by at least 90% by adding a thumb tack to the nose of the plane. Looks fine, it resembles a round bumper. :eek:
sweet tip! my second plane has been porpoising like crazy! i'm gonna have to try this.
Grasshopper
05-17-2006, 10:14 PM
I gotta try that too!
qban_flyer
05-17-2006, 10:24 PM
Here's a pic of the"mod". :p
UAVPilot
05-18-2006, 12:56 AM
The transmitter for the AA jet is the same as the biplane and same three frequencies.
I use to put a servo screw or two in the nose but know I just split the front open carefully and move the battery forward. Sometimes they are placed to far back from the factory.
Frodo
05-18-2006, 01:25 AM
I just got back from my sister's house. I flew my AHAA! with the lower wings removed and it was a blast! It was a bit windy but I went for it anyway. It flew way faster and turned a lot sharper. I had to get used to this but after awhile I had the hang of it. It seems like it wants to go higher without the lower wings. I had a couple of bad moments thinking it was going to get away from me. I did get snagged it a couple of trees but not hight from the ground.
My brother-in-law put his pretty high up in a tree, this time I climbed up to rescue it. The last time he fell out of the tree.
firemanbill
05-18-2006, 01:27 AM
The last time he fell out of the tree.
:eek: Ouch! He is OK I hope... The things we'll do to fly our planes!:D
Crimson
05-18-2006, 01:39 AM
The transmitter for the AA jet is the same as the biplane and same three frequencies.
I use to put a servo screw or two in the nose but know I just split the front open carefully and move the battery forward. Sometimes they are placed to far back from the factory.
So it is the same TX... AWESOME. I have done the same as UAVPilot, and moved the LiPo cell forward. Only every once and a while it will porpoise usually at WOT and into the wind. Some people have actually made a little side hatch so the battery can be moved back and forth depending on if your using the bottom wings or not.
It finished raining, and my niece is here. I gave her the AHAA!! that I bought for her birthday. We charged up and went to the park. Just like last night, there was no wind and we both flew around with minimal effort. She had a blast. So did I.... I now have another plane to chase:D:D:D!!
Frodo
05-18-2006, 01:41 AM
:eek: Ouch! He is OK I hope... The things we'll do to fly our planes!:D
He's ok. His shirt got caught on a branch when he jumped down and it caused him to land on his back. My back was turned to him so I did not see him fall but I heard and felt the impact. My sister came screaming out of the house a second later! After I found out he was ok it was quite funny!
rahtware
05-18-2006, 02:53 AM
I couldn't stand it any longer!!! Target had 6 in stock and still for only $30 so I picked up a red one (ch B). My nephew has a silver (ch A) one so now we can have some combat! Haven't flown it yet as it is a bit too windy... Will post when I do. The tail is still held on the same, tape on the bottom of the horz. stab., but just force fit for the rudder. Already popped it loose and slid it back.
firemanbill
05-18-2006, 03:15 AM
He's ok. His shirt got caught on a branch when he jumped down and it caused him to land on his back. My back was turned to him so I did not see him fall but I heard and felt the impact. My sister came screaming out of the house a second later! After I found out he was ok it was quite funny!
Glad to hear it! Alls well that ends well I guess! just another AHAA! tale to tell...:D
firemanbill
05-18-2006, 03:16 AM
Welcome to the club Larry!:D
qban_flyer
05-18-2006, 05:28 AM
I couldn't stand it any longer!!! Target had 6 in stock and still for only $30 so I picked up a red one (ch B). My nephew has a silver (ch A) one so now we can have some combat! Haven't flown it yet as it is a bit too windy... Will post when I do. The tail is still held on the same, tape on the bottom of the horz. stab., but just force fit for the rudder. Already popped it loose and slid it back.The AHAA!!! fever got to you, didn't it? I have a Red one as well. I'll have some Iron Crosses painted on mine with a black marker. :D
lshadow2005
05-18-2006, 05:32 AM
just picked up the AAAH dominator jet
will try it in the morning if the wind dies down
looks pretty cool
qban_flyer
05-18-2006, 05:51 AM
just picked up the AAAH dominator jet
will try it in the morning if the wind dies down
looks pretty coolWill you let us know how it flies? I was tempted to buy one as well and would be interested in hearing your experience with it. :)
ICHItheKILLER
05-18-2006, 06:35 AM
The f-16 sucks big lawn fudge!! It's a Target exclusive, I flew it and took it right back and got another Aero Ace. I got my light mod and ultimate transmitter mod at aeroacemods.com,I also took off the lower wings and it flies awsome now. the transmitter has all the mods.worth the money to me. Its my first time flying an rc plane and for 30 frog skins! its the best!
qban_flyer
05-18-2006, 07:15 AM
The f-16 sucks big lawn fudge!! It's a Target exclusive, I flew it and took it right back and got another Aero Ace. I got my light mod and ultimate transmitter mod at aeroacemods.com,I also took off the lower wings and it flies awsome now. the transmitter has all the mods.worth the money to me. Its my first time flying an rc plane and for 30 frog skins! its the best!UGH! :eek:
That's bad news on the F-16. I won't be bothering with that one. :o
Joe 1320
05-18-2006, 04:36 PM
just picked up the AAAH dominator jet
will try it in the morning if the wind dies down
looks pretty cool
The secret to the Dominator (F-117 knockoff) and likely the F-16 is to double charge the battery. Then take a short flight and land before exhausting all power from the battery. From that time on, do a double charge of the battery and immediatly fly. Make sure you land before all available power is drained and the planes fly OK. I would fly mine in between AAHA chargings. With a double charge they will climb out well without having to feed additional throttle, flight times are a couple of minutes. Both share the same tech, just a different foam shape so the ferformance should be similar. Just remember if you don't bring it down before the battery runs out of juice, you can't steer worth the crap. They use twin motors for steering so....... no battery, no steering and that means you'll be chasing it on foot. ;)
rahtware
05-18-2006, 05:28 PM
The secret to the Dominator (F-117 knockoff) and likely the F-16 is to double charge the battery. Then take a short flight and land before exhausting all power from the battery. From that time on, do a double charge of the battery and immediatly fly. Make sure you land before all available power is drained and the planes fly OK... ;)
Joe
Here's my ignorance and paranoia showing... As we are dealing with LiPos here, and their propensity to catch fire if charged and discharged incorrectly, is this a wise thing to do???
Joe 1320
05-18-2006, 05:30 PM
Joe
Here's my ignorance and paranoia showing... As we are dealing with LiPos here, and their propensity to catch fire if charged and discharged incorrectly, is this a wise thing to do???
Nope..... only the AHAA has the lipos. ;)
UAVPilot
05-18-2006, 06:29 PM
Joe
Here's my ignorance and paranoia showing... As we are dealing with LiPos here, and their propensity to catch fire if charged and discharged incorrectly, is this a wise thing to do???The F-16 and the Dominator uses 3 small NiMh battery's, The instruction actually tell you to charge it twice for your first flight of the day.
UAVPilot
05-18-2006, 06:38 PM
UGH! :eek:
That's bad news on the F-16. I won't be bothering with that one. :o The F-16 is no were near tha same type of plane as the Aero ace . It is really meant for a younger crowd IMOP. It is much harder to make it fly were you want, and you will need a wide open space. It does fly pretty well though and will handle much more wind than the Aero ace. Plus it has a nice profile in the air.
I don't particularly care for it myself when compared to to flying the Aero Ace. But if your Kid has a short attention span and you want to make him/ her run allot to go get it . Then the F-16 is just the ticket. It only takes a couple minute to charge and only flies for a few minutes. After they are bored with it, you can gut it and install some hobby gear and make a nice Jet that looks good in the air.
rahtware
05-18-2006, 07:51 PM
The F-16 and the Dominator uses 3 small NiMh battery's, The instruction actually tell you to charge it twice for your first flight of the day.
Good news... sorta. NiMhs are troubled by cool conditions so your advice is spot on! I have trouble with them though because compaired to NiCds they might have a greater potential for storage, but: have to be warm (hot?) to release that energy at a reasonable rate, lose stored energy faster and have a lower cell voltage... I wonder how a 2S lipo would do in that plane???
qban_flyer
05-18-2006, 09:01 PM
NiMHs are also heavier. Probably the reason the model is not as nice a flyer as the AHAA!!! :o
UAVPilot
05-19-2006, 02:18 AM
Good news... sorta. NiMhs are troubled by cool conditions so your advice is spot on! I have trouble with them though because compaired to NiCds they might have a greater potential for storage, but: have to be warm (hot?) to release that energy at a reasonable rate, lose stored energy faster and have a lower cell voltage... I wonder how a 2S lipo would do in that plane???With a 2S lipo you will have vertical power!:D At least for one flight :p ask me how I know;)
They are 4.5 volt motors.
UAVPilot
05-19-2006, 02:22 AM
NiMHs are also heavier. Probably the reason the model is not as nice a flyer as the AHAA!!! :o They use N 20 motors to, which weigh about 6 grams each were as the AA's only weigh about 1 gram each.
firemanbill
05-19-2006, 02:27 AM
Hey Qban and Mike! I got the new AHAA!!! out today! Boy Qban you were right. It really does fly well. (Glad I kept it;) ) After flying it around I have come to the realization that we have slap wore out our first one!:eek:
qban_flyer
05-19-2006, 02:30 AM
Hey Qban and Mike! I got the new AHAA!!! out today! Boy Qban you were right. It really does fly well. (Glad I kept it;) ) After flying it around I have come to the realization that we have slap wore out our first one!:eek: HE, HE, HE. I told ya! :D
That thing flew like there was no tomorrow on its maiden. I have yet to get my red one to fly nearly as good as that one does. :o
firemanbill
05-19-2006, 02:32 AM
My neighbor offerd to buy it from me so I gave him directions to wallyworld:eek: I'm keeping this baby!
qban_flyer
05-19-2006, 02:36 AM
My neighbor offerd to buy it from me so I gave him directions to wallyworld:eek: I'm keeping this baby!BAD BOY, BAD BOY, BAD BOY! :D :D :D
Can't say I blame you. I would have gotten it from Mike if you had not "snatched" it as quickly as you did. :D
firemanbill
05-19-2006, 02:59 AM
I would have gotten it from Mike if you had not "snatched" it as quickly as you did. :D
Well I'm glad I got it when I did then! :D :D :D
qban_flyer
05-19-2006, 04:47 AM
Glad you did! :D
rahtware
05-19-2006, 08:31 AM
:) Here you go buddy, look what I got you..:rolleyes: :rolleyes: What? The wing is broke??:( :rolleyes: Well you will have to return it..:rolleyes: :rolleyes: lol
Maybe fly it just a little.. one pack can't hurt anything :D
I seen them at Wal-mart (finally) but they are $47.00 here. I had to pass. It was a cute little red guy though..
Take care AHAA fans :)
Jay
Jay
Isn't Alaska part of the states??? I'm wondering what it would cost to ship you one from down here... I could pick you one up at Target for $30, that plus shipping has to be cheaper than $47!
zappedalaskan
05-19-2006, 08:44 AM
Hi Larry,
Thank you kindly for the offer. I think I will go ahead and pay the money so I can take it back if I need to. Is there a certain one that is the best to get? I was looking at a red and blue staggerwing bipe...
Thank's
Jay
rahtware
05-19-2006, 04:27 PM
Jay
Red an blue??? Are you looking at the AH Aero Ace? I don't know of one as you discribe. As far as the AHAA, they all are good!
rahtware
05-19-2006, 06:01 PM
OK 'adding weight guys'...
Take a look at this pic and you will see why your stock AHAA zooms-and-dives.
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The plane isn't tail heavy!
It just has too much "up" elevator. And this is why the tail mod is so much more effcient then adding UNESSARY nose weight. Lessen this angle, realize that a plane that uses preset positive horzStab angle to control climb is going to need throttle management and you will have longer flight times/better climb rates.
I would love to get together for a 'all up, last one down wins' contest with you 'nose-weight' guys:D...
In my tests with my nephews AHAA I found, if anything it was nose heavy after realigning the tail.
qban_flyer
05-19-2006, 06:48 PM
There are no red and blue AHAA!!! They come in blak & silver, silver & blue top wing (both on channel A). All red & red and yellow (channel B) and silver with both wings in blue & orange with black trim (channel C).
The boom on my red AHAA!!! is perfectly aligned when its fuselage is sitting on a straight edge, though I just noticed the horizontal stab itself has as much as two degrees of up elevator (negative incidence). I'll see if I can get rid of that aberration, remove the thumb tack from its nose then go try it out. BTW, the wings have a positive angle of attack.
Thanks for pointing this problem out rahtware. :)
Earle
05-19-2006, 07:03 PM
Some folks (I don't remember if its in this forum) are using a hair drier to soften up the tail boom on the AAs that porpose a lot and bending the boom down a couple of degrees. I have one that required full down elevators and still porposed some. Bending the boom down just a bit reduced the need for so much down elevalor, reduced its drag and resuced the tendency to have to fly on almost zero throttle to keep from climbing so high.
UAVPilot
05-19-2006, 07:03 PM
OK 'adding weight guys'...
Take a look at this pic and you will see why your stock AHAA zooms-and-dives.
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The plane isn't tail heavy!
It just has too much "up" elevator. And this is why the tail mod is so much more effcient then adding UNESSARY nose weight. Lessen this angle, realize that a plane that uses preset positive horzStab angle to control climb is going to need throttle management and you will have longer flight times/better climb rates.
I would love to get together for a 'all up, last one down wins' contest with you 'nose-weight' guys:D...
In my tests with my nephews AHAA I found, if anything it was nose heavy after realigning the tail. This is true. And why I quite adding nose weight. Inside the airplane is a battery location point. Some of the plane(most) have the battery placed to far back. If you get one of those plane and put the decals on the tail, it's going to fly like crap. Even if you correct the CG. Sometimes you will notice that it still requires down elevator to trim right. This is never good.(drag) Best bet is to lightly bend the tail down and try to get the trim set as neutral as possible.
Earle
05-20-2006, 12:56 AM
Great picture! Helps me REALLY SEE the way the taiis set too high and why a little hair drier heat is a good thing to bend it down.
WillBBC
05-20-2006, 07:35 AM
The bug bit me, bit me good. I bought two of these things this week and both have flown great. Bought an A and a C frequency. Just one quick question--will an epoxy glue work well with these or will that add unwanted weight and cause these little bugs to not fly very well?
rahtware
05-20-2006, 12:26 PM
Here is the simple fix, no bending involved and allows minute adjustments.
Pull the top of the rudder out of the black holder. Push a 1/16" wedge inside the holder to space the rudder at about that location. This forces the elevator down (in the back) about the same amount... Make slight changes in this angle until your AHAA climbs "just" a bit too steep at full power and on a fully charged battery. Doing this will max your flight time.
Adding weight, etc. works like a bandage, changing the angle fixes the problem.
Picture...
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firemanbill
05-20-2006, 12:36 PM
The bug bit me, bit me good. I bought two of these things this week and both have flown great. Bought an A and a C frequency. Just one quick question--will an epoxy glue work well with these or will that add unwanted weight and cause these little bugs to not fly very well?
Welcome Will! Sounds like you got the bug real bad!!!:D What do you need to epoxy on it? You can use it just use it sparingly. The only thing I had to glue back on was the tail section once and used ca for that, worked well.
Bill
qban_flyer
05-20-2006, 07:56 PM
Well, on my way back from the flying field I drove by TRU, as luck will have they were "open" :rolleyes: and since my red AHAA!!! is sorta getting a bit old I decided to check and see what they had. :o
SOS, same old 3 channels and six different color schemes, so I had to got me a silver one with blue wings so that my aging red one would not feel lonely all by itself in the basement. :rolleyes:
Winds are gusting to 23 mph so there will be no test flying this one this afternoon. :)
firemanbill
05-20-2006, 07:59 PM
Winds are gusting to 23 mph so there will be no test flying this one this afternoon. :)
Same here Qban, I guess the whole east coast is getting it. It seems a bit stronger than that here though. We have a wind warning out on base for gust to 35:eek:
Frodo
05-20-2006, 08:46 PM
Same here it's very windy and I have not flow my AHAA! for the past two days. I'm going through withdawal.............
Joe 1320
05-20-2006, 09:58 PM
Winds are gusting to 23 mph so there will be no test flying this one this afternoon. :)
This is why most of my flying time is at sunrise. Down here in Florida, that's the only time the wind is still. The rest of the time it's kite weather.
firemanbill
05-20-2006, 10:04 PM
I was going to do that this morning Joe but the wind is what woke me up:eek: !
Usually that works here but not this weekend...
Earle
05-20-2006, 11:43 PM
Bummer - windy and windier in Washington (State) to - on the west side of the state anyway - and I want to fly the modifications yaall been talking about but I don't want to have to climb trees to get the plane back.
firemanbill
05-21-2006, 01:40 AM
well the wind died down just after dusk, too late to get the big birds out so we played around with the AHAA!!!'s in the backyard for a while.
Always fun to get them out for a bit! I let the nieghbor fly it again and I saw him pulling out just a few minutes ago, said something mumbling under his breath about going to wallywolrd...:D
WillBBC
05-21-2006, 03:50 AM
It was windy as heck this morning in North Jersey. I just got back from a family function (at 10:30ish), noticed it was not windy so I took it out front for a while. I'm going to screw around with the lower wings and see what's cookin' with those. Do the wing connector things (pardon my lack of plane jargon) really matter? One of mine keeps popping out of the gap it's supposed to stay in and just refuses to stay put. It flies fine without it but would it be alright to remove them altogether?
firemanbill
05-21-2006, 04:15 AM
Will are you talking about the struts in between the wings? If so it shouldn't matter to much if you eliminate it since some folks eliminate the entire lower wing! Mine kept coming apart too so a i used a little low temp hot glue and it stays put now
Grasshopper
05-22-2006, 01:47 AM
Well, I took off the lower wing on mine today and boy what a difference. It's considerably faster and more manueverable. Only one problem. After flying it for a while, it started going into a steep right hand spin. I couldn't find anything out of align and the more I tried, the worse it got. Turns out the right motor was running slower than the left and it finally just stopped. It seems to be dead. Does anyone know if there is anything you can do to check or fix it?
On the bright side, Toys R Us had them on sale today for 33% off. Ended up being $20.09 each. I bought four of them (one for a gift). I would like to get my original one going again if anyone has any suggestions how if if it's even possible.
Tom
lshadow2005
05-22-2006, 02:09 AM
Grasshopper,
Somewhere on this long thread someone referred to a supplies of parts ie motors etc for the AHAA's
I might have to run dow toTRU and get my grandsons a couple "more" grad gifts
Bob
Grasshopper
05-22-2006, 02:11 AM
Thanks Bob,
I'll do some searching to see if I can find it.
Tom
qban_flyer
05-22-2006, 02:22 AM
Well, I took off the lower wing on mine today and boy what a difference. It's considerably faster and more manueverable. Only one problem. After flying it for a while, it started going into a steep right hand spin. I couldn't find anything out of align and the more I tried, the worse it got. Turns out the right motor was running slower than the left and it finally just stopped. It seems to be dead. Does anyone know if there is anything you can do to check or fix it?
On the bright side, Toys R Us had them on sale today for 33% off. Ended up being $20.09 each. I bought four of them (one for a gift). I would like to get my original one going again if anyone has any suggestions how if if it's even possible.
TomThat's what happened to my red one, thoug in my case it was the left motor. I now got me a Silver & Blue one. :D
ICHItheKILLER
05-22-2006, 03:07 AM
Thanks Bob,
I'll do some searching to see if I can find it.
Tom
goto aeroacemods.com they have some good things on there,and replacment motors
zappedalaskan
05-22-2006, 03:08 AM
Hi Tom,
Dang 20 bucks!! That is 52% less than they are here lol.
Larry-
The one I was looking at was red. I was thinking of another plane they had called the matrix or ultrix or something. I think I better go see if they still have it monday. My little blade cx helicopter has taught me that you can have a blast with rc and never leave the yard. As many of these things as you guys have accumulated, I am thinking I'm missing out on something :) The problem with going to Wal-mart is that if I get a plane, the Mrs. gets some cloths or something shiny will catch her eye. And I can't get a new toy without getting my three year old a new toy as well. "I got one for her to" only worked once lol
So I am looking at a hundred dollar bill to get my grubby little paws on a dang 30 dollar plane! But as long as everyone is happy and I get my AHAA all is well :)
Many happy landing guys,
Jay
qban_flyer
05-22-2006, 03:33 AM
TRU HAS THEM ON SALE THROUGH THE 27TH!!! :eek:
33% OFF ON THEIR WEEKLY SALES FLYER! :eek:
TIME TO STOCK UP ON THE AHAA!!! :D
Sorry about all the shouting! :o
zappedalaskan
05-22-2006, 04:20 AM
TRU HAS THEM ON SALE THROUGH THE 27TH!!! :eek:
33% OFF ON THEIR WEEKLY SALES FLYER! :eek:
TIME TO STOCK UP ON THE AHAA!!! :D
Sorry about all the shouting! :o
:(
Grasshopper
05-22-2006, 04:22 AM
Hey Zapp,
I'd be happy to sell and ship you one of mine if it would help.
Tom
zappedalaskan
05-22-2006, 04:32 AM
I appreciate that Tom,
But I better just pay a little more and get one here. That way I can return it if it's a dud. I can't thank you guys enough for the offers though. I need to get one just so I can post here and talk AHAA's with you guys :)
Take care,
Jay
Grasshopper
05-22-2006, 04:34 AM
No problem. Let me know if you change your mind or can't find one. There must have been 25 of them on the shelf at TRU this morning and I was the only one looking at them.
qban_flyer
05-22-2006, 04:35 AM
I appreciate that Tom,
But I better just pay a little more and get one here. That way I can return it if it's a dud. I can't thank you guys enough for the offers though. I need to get one just so I can post here and talk AHAA's with you guys :)
Take care,
JayAHAA! So we got you hooked on the AHAA!!!, ha? :eek:
Couldn't resist doing that to you Jay. :D
spark
05-22-2006, 01:53 PM
Turns out the right motor was running slower than the left and it finally just stopped. It seems to be dead. Does anyone know if there is anything you can do to check or fix it?
Tom
Some folks have found that dunking them in alcohol to clean them, then drying and oiling them have returned their motors to like-new performance.
Grasshopper
05-22-2006, 03:30 PM
Guess I can give it a try. I disconnected it from the circuit board and tried wiring direct to a power source and it was still dead.
evanthehunter
05-22-2006, 04:21 PM
My plane is staying verylow to the ground and will not go up. need help.
Grasshopper
05-22-2006, 04:39 PM
Hey Evan,
Have you checked to make sure you have fresh batteries in your transmitter? It may be that the plane isn't getting charged sufficiently. It could also possibly be that the battery in your plane is starting to fail.
evanthehunter
05-22-2006, 05:29 PM
I was thinking about that, I just put in new batteries for my transmitter, so its not that. I ripped off the stickers thinking it would be lighter but nothing. can I use an ordinary battery. or Do I have to buy a new one from aeroacemods.com?
Grasshopper
05-22-2006, 05:33 PM
Now that one I can't answer. I'm sure some of the guys here who have gotten a little deeper into these little birds can probably answer your question.
firemanbill
05-22-2006, 05:44 PM
My plane is staying verylow to the ground and will not go up. need help.
Evan, How many flights do you have on it now?
My sons is doing the same thing even with fresh batteries. I'm thinking the motors are wearing out since he's had it now for several months and flies it about everyday. The new one we picked up from twmaster flat out gets up there after being charged from the same tx so we know it is not the tx batts.
Not sure on changing out the lipo or the motors in it but I'd think it would be cheaper just to get another one and use the old one for parts.
Joe 1320
05-22-2006, 06:12 PM
You guys have to remember that these are really throw aways...... the battery and the motors do not have a long life. It certainly appears that 40-50 flights and the motors/battery is toast. Replacement motors (pager size) and replacement batteries would be nice.
Grasshopper
05-22-2006, 06:46 PM
Yep, My original went into the parts box after an autopsy last night. Good thing I went to TRU yesterday and have a replacement. Mine had at least 50-60 flights on it before one of the motors went out on it.
qban_flyer
05-22-2006, 08:44 PM
Well, I stopped at a local TRU this afternoon. :o
They were stocked to the hilt with all kinds of Air Hogs, so I got me two more AHAA!!!s , a RED one to replaced my defunct one and a BLUE & SILVER one to have because they are so cheap. :eek:
Had 12 fresh batteries with me so on my way back I stopped by a park .2 miles from the house to spend a couple of hours of flying. A Montgomery County Cop was there in the parking lot. He was intrigued by the "flying machines" so he came closer for a look-see. After telling him about them and how inexpensive they were, I gave him the tranny to the BLUE & SILVER one and had him fly it immediately. Luckily the TRU in Rockville is part of the territory he covers, so on his way he went to get himself a remote controlled airplane for his "son". :D
Glad TRU is having this sale on thru Saturday. :)
Grasshopper
05-22-2006, 08:50 PM
Cool! Another addict. Seems crazy, but I've actually been thinking about going to get another one or two. And this is after I bought four yesterday. The first step to recovery is admitting I have a problem................I HAVE A PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
qban_flyer
05-22-2006, 09:29 PM
I HAVE A PROBLEM TOO!!! :o
NOT ENOUGH TIME TO FLY ALL THESE AHAA!!!s :eek:
evanthehunter
05-22-2006, 09:38 PM
Evan, How many flights do you have on it now?
My sons is doing the same thing even with fresh batteries. I'm thinking the motors are wearing out since he's had it now for several months and flies it about everyday. The new one we picked up from twmaster flat out gets up there after being charged from the same tx so we know it is not the tx batts.
Not sure on changing out the lipo or the motors in it but I'd think it would be cheaper just to get another one and use the old one for parts.
Yeah that could be it, My motors are making a Buzzing noise like the propellers are hitting something on the plane. I am really annoyed, its 70 degrees wind is about 3 mph, and my plane is not working right!
Grasshopper
05-22-2006, 09:45 PM
Looks like a trip to Toys R Us is in order. You need to have at least three charged up at all times.
qban_flyer
05-22-2006, 09:55 PM
What I like about TRU is they have a 90 day return policy, so I fly the pants out of my AHAA!!!, if it fails before the 90 days return policy I take it back as "deffective" and get it exchanged for a non defective one. :rolleyes:
Not smart alecky comments, plzzz. I didn't make that policy, they did. :eek:
Grasshopper
05-22-2006, 10:14 PM
Heaven forbid I would ever make a comment about that since I've already done it once.
Mike Freas
05-22-2006, 10:38 PM
[quote=qban_flyer;73063]Well, I stopped at a local TRU this afternoon. :o
They were stocked to the hilt with all kinds of Air Hogs, so I got me two more AHAA!!!s , a RED one to replaced my defunct one and a BLUE & SILVER one to have because they are so cheap. :eek:
Had 12 fresh batteries with me so on my way back I stopped by a park .2 miles from the house to spend a couple of hours of flying. A Montgomery County Cop was there in the parking lot. He was intrigued by the "flying machines" so he came closer for a look-see. After telling him about them and how inexpensive they were, I gave him the tranny to the BLUE & SILVER one and had him fly it immediately. Luckily the TRU in Rockville is part of the territory he covers, so on his way he went to get himself a remote controlled airplane for his "son". :D
Can't help but assume that your location as the "free state" is in fact MD. Maybe I have been away from home(Laurel) for to long but.....oh now I remember...the free state.
qban_flyer
05-23-2006, 12:32 AM
Can't help but assume that your location as the "free state" is in fact MD. Maybe I have been away from home(Laurel) for to long but.....oh now I remember...the free state.You got it! :D
firemanbill
05-23-2006, 02:10 AM
Cool! Another addict. Seems crazy, but I've actually been thinking about going to get another one or two. And this is after I bought four yesterday. The first step to recovery is admitting I have a problem................I HAVE A PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dang GH, I thought I had a problem... :eek: I don't think there is any hope for you... :D your'e too far gone for help so you might as well go with the flow...
PS. I went to TRU this afternoon... Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
Grasshopper
05-23-2006, 02:22 AM
You're absolutely right Bill. Why fight it? Heck I think I'll go ahead and order a P-38 and a B-25 while I'm at it. I'm sure she'll understand that it's an illness. I can't stop those little voices in my head screaming "Buy another plane..Buy another plane"!
firemanbill
05-23-2006, 02:24 AM
Well let me put another bug in your ear... ha, bug, no pun intended...
buy bill the B-17 from EAM... buy bill the B-17 from EAM............
Grasshopper
05-23-2006, 02:31 AM
I would but I don't think you would be happy with it. And besides, I'll need to dig around the threads but I'm pretty sure I read that you were going to stop building for a while and just fly. I would feel terrible if I were the one to make you loose sight of your goals.
firemanbill
05-23-2006, 02:35 AM
shoot, you read that did ya?!:eek: But don't let me stop you from making me unhappy! heck nobody else cares... sob, see it's like...
OK nevermind... I tried:D lol
Now back to our regularly scheduled AHAA!!! discussion...
qban_flyer
05-23-2006, 03:18 AM
Dang GH, I thought I had a problem... :eek: I don't think there is any hope for you... :D your'e too far gone for help so you might as well go with the flow...
PS. I went to TRU this afternoon... Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
AHAA!!! :D :D :D
jimw1956
05-23-2006, 04:48 AM
Hi folks...this is my first post here although I've been lurking and reading quite a bit. I am new to RC Flying and so far I have about $400 invested in two aerobirds...one little one and one big one (Hobbyzone Challenger), and a recently purchased Slo-V which I flew for the first time today...(well I guess you could call it flying..it stayed in the air some of the time anyhow).
Funny thing is out of all this money, so far I have actually had the most real fun with the $30 "toy" plane. Picked mine up at the local Geoffry's store (division of TRU) for $29.95. It is the Blue / Silver one. After a little trimming to the rudder I have it flying pretty good. I still need to adjust the elevator flaps a little to get it leveled up but it is an absolute blast to fly, and I can fly it anywhere, anytime, as long as the wind is down.
I dug into the transmitter tonight and removed that pesky spring on the throttle...I can't wait to try it out and see how much of an improvement that is. One thing I can't get over is the amount of flying time you get out of a charge on that little lipo cell.
Who cares if I get some strange looks flying this little thing...most fun I've had in years. I took it out Sunday morning before church...a bit windy but I just wanted to see how it would do. It was funny...a gust of wind would come and the little AAHA would just sort of hover in the air like a hummingbird....what a blast.
Anyway, greetings to all on the board here, and if you don't have one of these things, by all means pick one up.:)
Grasshopper
05-23-2006, 04:58 AM
Hi Jim,
Welcome to Wattflyer! You will really like it with the throttle spring removed. It makes it much easier to cruise around. Don't worry about the looks you get. I fly mine in the front yard all the time. The neighbors have gotten used to it flying over their houses and several of them come out to watch. I've had a number of people driving by stop to ask where I got it. I don't think it's the plane that looks so curious to them. I think it's the fact that there's a 44 year old man flying it with a smile from ear to ear.
Good luck with your flying and welcome to the group!
Tom
qban_flyer
05-23-2006, 05:09 AM
Hi folks...this is my first post here although I've been lurking and reading quite a bit. I am new to RC Flying and so far I have about $400 invested in two aerobirds...one little one and one big one (Hobbyzone Challenger), and a recently purchased Slo-V which I flew for the first time today...(well I guess you could call it flying..it stayed in the air some of the time anyhow).
Funny thing is out of all this money, so far I have actually had the most real fun with the $30 "toy" plane. Picked mine up at the local Geoffry's store (division of TRU) for $29.95. It is the Blue / Silver one. After a little trimming to the rudder I have it flying pretty good. I still need to adjust the elevator flaps a little to get it leveled up but it is an absolute blast to fly, and I can fly it anywhere, anytime, as long as the wind is down.
I dug into the transmitter tonight and removed that pesky spring on the throttle...I can't wait to try it out and see how much of an improvement that is. One thing I can't get over is the amount of flying time you get out of a charge on that little lipo cell.
Who cares if I get some strange looks flying this little thing...most fun I've had in years. I took it out Sunday morning before church...a bit windy but I just wanted to see how it would do. It was funny...a gust of wind would come and the little AAHA would just sort of hover in the air like a hummingbird....what a blast.
Anyway, greetings to all on the board here, and if you don't have one of these things, by all means pick one up.:)Hi there! :D
Welcome to the recovering AHAA!!! users thread. :eek:
I know what you mean when it comes to having just plain unadulterated fun. I take my two AHAA!!! with me in the car, when I "feel" the need for an AHAA!!! fix comning down the pike, I pull over and fly one of the for a bit, then get back in the car and keep going until the next AHAA!!! fix rears its ugly head. :o
I am sure some out there may think what a peculiar behavior for an old man. That they say because they have no clue as what an addict goes through when the need for an AHAA!!! fix arises, especially since TRU has been so kind to us AHAA!!! addicts by lowering its price by 33%. :p
qban_flyer
05-23-2006, 05:13 AM
Hi Jim,
Welcome to Wattflyer! You will really like it with the throttle spring removed. It makes it much easier to cruise around. Don't worry about the looks you get. I fly mine in the front yard all the time. The neighbors have gotten used to it flying over their houses and several of them come out to watch. I've had a number of people driving by stop to ask where I got it. I don't think it's the plane that looks so curious to them. I think it's the fact that there's a 44 year old man flying it with a smile from ear to ear.
Good luck with your flying and welcome to the group!
TomHow do you think many a passerby look at the 61 year old foggy flying the little 9" bipe in his front yard? :confused:
YUP! This is the look I get: :rolleyes:
jimw1956
05-23-2006, 05:19 AM
This is the first I've heard about this discount deal...I'll have to get by the local Geoffrys and see if they have the same deal and pick up a spare...what the heck ,it's only another 20 bucks.
Grasshopper
05-23-2006, 05:32 AM
It's just money. Get 3 while you're there.
qban_flyer
05-23-2006, 05:38 AM
This is the first I've heard about this discount deal...I'll have to get by the local Geoffrys and see if they have the same deal and pick up a spare...what the heck ,it's only another 20 bucks.YUP! They have it going through Saturday the 27th! :)
Hurry up and buy a few to keep you AHAA!!! "fixed" for a while. :D
jimw1956
05-23-2006, 06:21 AM
Well problem is I've bought about 3 planes in the last two weeks or so, and a couple of them a good bit more than the $30 variety...got to slack off for a bit. But $20 for an Aeroace...just might be too good of a deal to pass up. What the heck...that's only the price of about 6 gallons of gas!
Earle
05-23-2006, 06:27 AM
I've strated a thread for the new Aero Ace Jet (not the F16) so we don't highjack this Biwing thread for the jet. Hope to see you all there soon. Love these planes - Lost my first biwing to a tall fir when my addiction needed a fix even thought the wind was blowing. Now I'm down to just three unmodified ones. .
qban_flyer
05-23-2006, 06:28 AM
Well problem is I've bought about 3 planes in the last two weeks or so, and a couple of them a good bit more than the $30 variety...got to slack off for a bit. But $20 for an Aeroace...just might be too good of a deal to pass up. What the heck...that's only the price of about 6 gallons of gas! Or dinner for three at Mc D's. :eek:
Frodo
05-23-2006, 10:05 PM
I just picked up two more AHAA!s at TRU, $42 plus change! hehe!
Grasshopper
05-23-2006, 10:08 PM
Doesn't get any better than that!
Mike Freas
05-23-2006, 10:28 PM
You guys are killing me. My local TRU sucks and I can never find any there and Target never has them on sale. I need parts but I figure it would be cheeper to get a whole new one.
Grasshopper
05-23-2006, 10:30 PM
Hey Mike,
I could buy and ship you one or more if you want.
Tom
qban_flyer
05-23-2006, 10:51 PM
I just picked up two more AHAA!s at TRU, $42 plus change! hehe!Ain't RC life grand? :p
Frodo
05-23-2006, 11:18 PM
Ain't RC life grand? :p
Yes it is. I just back in from bouncing off trees.......er flying. It's a bit windy tonight. Has been for the past several days.
firemanbill
05-24-2006, 12:59 AM
Yes it is. I just back in from bouncing off trees.......er flying. It's a bit windy tonight. Has been for the past several days.
That is the very reason I like these so much, I bounce 'em off a lot of stuff before I get the big ones out, you know, get it out of my system! ha:D
qban_flyer
05-24-2006, 03:28 AM
That is the very reason I like these so much, I bounce 'em off a lot of stuff before I get the big ones out, you know, get it out of my system! ha:DMakes sense! :D
qban_flyer
05-24-2006, 02:49 PM
My two brand spanking new AHAA!!!s ($20.10 each) sitting pretty in front of the house, errr, the North-South "runway" after an early morning outing! :p
Grasshopper
05-24-2006, 04:53 PM
Hey Qban, I noticed you left all the decals off. Is it for weight or just personal preference?
qban_flyer
05-24-2006, 08:58 PM
Hey Qban, I noticed you left all the decals off. Is it for weight or just personal preference?Both. I'll use a black marker and customize their looks later on. :D
Grasshopper
05-24-2006, 09:20 PM
Cool!
Frodo
05-24-2006, 10:02 PM
My modded tx arrived from aeroacemods today. It has the throttle spring mod, selectable frequencies (A,B,C) and it turns my aero ace without giving it throttle! Now it is easy to bring my AHAA!s down when they get up too high. I just cut the throttle and circle them down! I'm charging up for another flight now. I also bought another AHAA! today at TRU. That's a total of seven that I have bought so far! I only have six though because I gave one away.
Grasshopper
05-24-2006, 10:05 PM
So how does it turn with no throttle? And I thought I was bad with 4 new ones still in the boxes sitting on my kitchen table.
Frodo
05-24-2006, 10:27 PM
So how does it turn with no throttle? And I thought I was bad with 4 new ones still in the boxes sitting on my kitchen table.
Hitting left or right stick powers up the motors allowing you to turn but does not produce enough power to cause lift. Works very well!
qban_flyer
05-24-2006, 10:35 PM
When I have to make a turn without throttle, I move the stick in the direction I want it to turn, then I throttle up as much as I need to in order for it to be re-directed. :D
Works like charm. :eek:
Frodo
05-24-2006, 10:44 PM
When I have to make a turn without throttle, I move the stick in the direction I want it to turn, then I throttle up as much as I need to in order for it to be re-directed. :D
Works like charm. :eek:
NICE!
qban_flyer
05-25-2006, 12:56 AM
Frodo,
What all did the mods include? How much did they charge for the complete mod? :confused:
It may be worthwhile so doing if one has more than three AHAA!!!s in one's hangar. :)
Frodo
05-25-2006, 01:08 AM
Frodo,
What all did the mods include? How much did they charge for the complete mod? :confused:
It may be worthwhile so doing if one has more than three AHAA!!!s in one's hangar. :)
Hi Qban, the mods included: selectable frequencies, throttle spring mod, turn mod and it comes with the clip that attaches your plane to the tx antenna while charging. The price was $25.00. The selectable frequency is my fav mod since I have multiple AHAA!s now. I recommend it.
qban_flyer
05-25-2006, 02:40 AM
Hi Qban, the mods included: selectable frequencies, throttle spring mod, turn mod and it comes with the clip that attaches your plane to the tx antenna while charging. The price was $25.00. The selectable frequency is my fav mod since I have multiple AHAA!s now. I recommend it.Say Frodo, since I have multiple AHAA!!!s I just may give that mod a try too. Can you post a link to them? :)
I like the idea of using a single tranny to fly all of them, and use the other trannys as "charging stations". :eek:
WillBBC
05-25-2006, 03:34 AM
I just got back from Toys R Us with two more bad boys. A blue and silver one for myself and a red one for my brother (who just got back from Iraq and will actually be 'home' on Friday night). He's going to love this thing.
Another question. My left prop has fallen off the wing on all three that I've flown. I've simply taped them back on, had them fall off again then used an epoxy to bind them back on. Anybody else having these problems? The problems are gone once the glue dries but it's annoying!
Frodo
05-25-2006, 03:38 AM
Say Frodo, since I have multiple AHAA!!!s I just may give that mod a try too. Can you post a link to them? :)
I like the idea of using a single tranny to fly all of them, and use the other trannys as "charging stations". :eek:
Sure Qban, here's the link: http://www.aeroacemods.com/aam/aeroace/
I had the same idea of using one of my other trannys for a charging station. Scroll down to the bottom of the page for the tranny.
qban_flyer
05-25-2006, 04:22 AM
I just got back from Toys R Us with two more bad boys. A blue and silver one for myself and a red one for my brother (who just got back from Iraq and will actually be 'home' on Friday night). He's going to love this thing.
Another question. My left prop has fallen off the wing on all three that I've flown. I've simply taped them back on, had them fall off again then used an epoxy to bind them back on. Anybody else having these problems? The problems are gone once the glue dries but it's annoying!
Give my regards to your brother. We have a kid stationed in the Gulf with the Navy. :)
I have seen a couple of them get their motors come undone. I have epoxied them back on. It's annoying but it's an easy fix. :D
qban_flyer
05-25-2006, 04:23 AM
Sure Qban, here's the link: http://www.aeroacemods.com/aam/aeroace/
I had the same idea of using one of my other trannys for a charging station. Scroll down to the bottom of the page for the tranny.Thanks Frodo! :)
rahtware
05-25-2006, 06:22 AM
WillBBC, Qban Flyer and all others that have loved ones overseas...
As a Viet-Vet and a member of the VFP I would like to ask you to send them our love and respect... Please tell them to keep their heads down, don’t play hero and come home safe! Also, when they return please give them time to adjust and please be patient... Even though I was in support and didn't see combat, I was still a different person when I came home... So different that my family had a hard time relating to me, and I to them...
I only wish that every one that has a yellow ribbon on their car would also vote for Vets benefits, hospitals and better pay and equipment for those still serving...
The main reason I am a member of the Veterans For Peace is because of the similarities between the reasons (politics) for going to war in SE Asia and Iraq...
Please forgive this diversion from the thread, but this is still as real to me today as it was in '68...
qban_flyer
05-25-2006, 03:17 PM
WillBBC, Qban Flyer and all others that have loved ones overseas...
As a Viet-Vet and a member of the VFP I would like to ask you to send them our love and respect... Please tell them to keep their heads down, don’t play hero and come home safe! Also, when they return please give them time to adjust and please be patient... Even though I was in support and didn't see combat, I was still a different person when I came home... So different that my family had a hard time relating to me, and I to them...
I only wish that every one that has a yellow ribbon on their car would also vote for Vets benefits, hospitals and better pay and equipment for those still serving...
The main reason I am a member of the Veterans For Peace is because of the similarities between the reasons (politics) for going to war in SE Asia and Iraq...
Please forgive this diversion from the thread, but this is still as real to me today as it was in '68... Thanks RW.
Your post here may get deleted since it appears some moderators are so doing with wanton abandon. They are so doing under the guise of posts being "off topic" or "out of synch" with the rest of the thread. :o
Grasshopper
05-26-2006, 02:42 AM
I couldn't help but start drawing on one of my new Aero Aces.
firemanbill
05-26-2006, 02:50 AM
I couldn't help but start drawing on one of my new Aero Aces.
AHAA! look! GH made a tiger! That looks really cool dude!
Grasshopper
05-26-2006, 02:57 AM
Thanks Bill. My addiction got the better of me today. I went and bought 2 more at noon. I just couldn't stand to see those lonely little planes sitting on the shelf at TRU with no home. Still $20 a piece and they had a bunch of them.
firemanbill
05-26-2006, 03:17 AM
so what tail numbers are those two? 21 and 22:eek:
you're sick bud... :eek: Isn't life grand?!:D
Grasshopper
05-26-2006, 03:32 AM
Not that bad. Only 7 & 8. Probably gonna E-bay a couple of them later once the sale goes off. Gotta help support this habit any way I can.
qban_flyer
05-26-2006, 03:35 AM
I couldn't help but start drawing on one of my new Aero Aces.AHAA!!! :eek:
Sacre Bleu! If it ain't a Flying Tiger Aero Ace. All that's missing is the Shark's Teeth on its fuselage! :D :D :D
A work of art, one so pretty I wouldn't dare fly for all the tea in China. :eek: :eek: :eek:
BTW, what kind of paints did you use to create this AHAA!!! Mona Lisa? ;)
Grasshopper
05-26-2006, 03:38 AM
No paint. Just 5 minutes with permanant sharpies. I didn't even think about shark's teeth.
qban_flyer
05-26-2006, 03:50 AM
No paint. Just 5 minutes with permanant sharpies. I didn't even think about shark's teeth.
Whaaat? :confused:
Do you know call a Flying Tiger without its Shark's Teeth is called? A Paper Tiger. :D :D :D
Grasshopper
05-26-2006, 03:53 AM
Paper.......Foam...not a lot of difference.
qban_flyer
05-26-2006, 03:55 AM
Paper.......Foam...not a lot of difference.Toothless Tiger? :confused:
Grasshopper
05-26-2006, 03:57 AM
Oh now that just hurts Qban. Now I'm ashamed to take it out in the yard.
qban_flyer
05-26-2006, 04:38 AM
Oh now that just hurts Qban. Now I'm ashamed to take it out in the yard.I was just kidding, seriously, just kidding. I meant no harm, really. :o
Can you ever find it in your grasshopper heart to forgive my transgression? :confused: Plzzz!!! :o
Your AHAA!!! is as pretty as a Tigress! :)
Does it hurt less now? :confused: :confused: :confused:
If you are still ashamed of it, send it my way. I promise I won't be ashamed of such a purty little sexy thing. :)
Grasshopper
05-26-2006, 04:43 AM
Too late, the damage is done. I'm just gonna paint it all pink and go fly!
qban_flyer
05-26-2006, 04:50 AM
Too late, the damage is done. I'm just gonna paint it all pink and go fly!OH! NO. :o
Don't do that. If you do you'll force me to call her Miss Piggy!!! :eek:
Grasshopper
05-26-2006, 01:56 PM
She is an Air Hog after all.
qban_flyer
05-26-2006, 03:07 PM
She is an Air Hog after all.HMMM!!!
Very true, very true. :)
I shall rename my silver and blue ones Porky, the red ones will be renamed Petunia. :)
Dang, I just realized I have another Hog in the house. My 1961 Berkeley Astro Hog, a slimer! :eek:
firemanbill
05-26-2006, 03:36 PM
Too late, the damage is done. I'm just gonna paint it all pink and go fly!
Nooooooooo! Next thing you know you'll have one of those pink GWS tx's:eek:
oh the humanity...:p
rahtware
05-26-2006, 04:58 PM
Still too windy to get in a 'trimming' flight.... Nothing left to do but tear into the transmitter and see if I can make sense of the schematic posted earlier...
I found SW5, the channel switch on the CB. Trouble is no switch... Not even a removable jumper! It looks like they just soldered a jumper across the switch points.
I am not an electronics technician; my training in the subject was in the Army in 1967. I know just enough to get myself in trouble, but here is how I came to my conclusion...
On the schematic R14 is on the line going into the switch..
1210612107
I found R14 on the CB..
12108
I then followed the foil up to SW5..
12109
It looks like it might just be a matter of de-soldering the solder (jumper) between the two points and then wiring in a 3-way switch across the points that make up SW5. I have a "B" trans, and my nephew has an "A" trans so I will be able to check out the different jumper positions when I see him this weekend.
nstaller
05-26-2006, 07:25 PM
Rahtware,
Could you show me a pic of where the ant mounts to the board on the rcvr.Mine fell off the other day while I was mounting it in a plane I built.
Thanks,
Ken
rahtware
05-26-2006, 09:31 PM
Rahtware,
Could you show me a pic of where the ant mounts to the board on the rcvr.Mine fell off the other day while I was mounting it in a plane I built.
Thanks,
Ken
Ken
I haven't cut into the plane (yet), but will try to locate that info for you.
bsoder
05-26-2006, 09:39 PM
I picked up one of these a few days ago, what a fun little plane. :) I did the diode/turn mod to my controller, and added lights for flying at night - it's been too windy during the day here the last few days.
Here's pics of my lights. :)
qban_flyer
05-26-2006, 09:44 PM
I picked up one of these a few days ago, what a fun little plane. :) I did the diode/turn mod to my controller, and added lights for flying at night - it's been too windy during the day here the last few days.
Here's pics of my lights. :)That looks great. :)
I'd bet it should be "interesting" flying it at night! Keep us posted. :D
bsoder
05-26-2006, 09:48 PM
The lights were incredibly cheap. Walgreens has these lightup rings, they're a buck each. They have two button cells, one 3V and one 1.5V, and three LEDs - a greenish-yellow one, red, and blue. I took apart three rings for this. Cut slots in the wingtips and in the nose and stuck in the 3V batts (saving the 1.5Vs for something else, they're not enough to drive the LEDs.) I took one LED of each color and added extensions to the legs, then I can slip them over the batteries and they're held in place between the battery and the foam on each side. easy, light, and works great - these would work on a slowstick too I think.
It's neat to fly it around the culdesac at night. :)
rahtware
05-26-2006, 09:50 PM
I picked up one of these a few days ago, what a fun little plane. :) I did the diode/turn mod to my controller, and added lights for flying at night - it's been too windy during the day here the last few days.
Here's pics of my lights. :)
I'll bite...
What is the diode/turn mod???
Joe 1320
05-26-2006, 09:52 PM
Rahtware,
Could you show me a pic of where the ant mounts to the board on the rcvr.Mine fell off the other day while I was mounting it in a plane I built.
Thanks,
Ken
Take a magnifying glass and observe the rear left corner of the circuit board just to the left of where the rear mast attaches to the board, it will say "ANT" ....... that's where you re-solder the antenna.
bsoder
05-26-2006, 10:13 PM
oh, I figured that was in the thread somewhere, I didn't read it all. It's a fairly easy mod to the tx that lets you turn with the throttle off. Basically, when you turn, it turns on the motors on the lowest setting for turning.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4826311&postcount=72
rahtware
05-26-2006, 10:23 PM
oh, I figured that was in the thread somewhere, I didn't read it all. It's a fairly easy mod to the tx that lets you turn with the throttle off. Basically, when you turn, it turns on the motors on the lowest setting for turning.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4826311&postcount=72
Thanks
I was reading that post when you responded!!!
I guess I was a bit confused because he started the post with a question so went on... I now have to get down to RS and buy some diodes!
Thanks again
qban_flyer
05-26-2006, 10:52 PM
The lights were incredibly cheap. Walgreens has these lightup rings, they're a buck each. They have two button cells, one 3V and one 1.5V, and three LEDs - a greenish-yellow one, red, and blue. I took apart three rings for this. Cut slots in the wingtips and in the nose and stuck in the 3V batts (saving the 1.5Vs for something else, they're not enough to drive the LEDs.) I took one LED of each color and added extensions to the legs, then I can slip them over the batteries and they're held in place between the battery and the foam on each side. easy, light, and works great - these would work on a slowstick too I think.
It's neat to fly it around the culdesac at night. :)You must be a mind reader! :D
I'd bet it is, especially if the Stick is flown with a silent brushless!!! :D
Thanks for the info on the lighting system.
Gumby flies !
05-27-2006, 01:37 AM
Hi .... my name is Dave ..... and I'm an AHAA!-holic .....
Couldn't resist that TRU sale !! I held off for 2 whole days, but I had to stop in and pick one up on my way into work tonight ..... how many of you just said : "only one ??" :) It wasn't easy ..... but this makes my third so I'm hoping I'm gonna be OK for a while !
Got the orange one 'cause I really liked that "Tigress" paint job ! When I got to work the wind was finally down so I pulled my black/silver A off the back seat and did a few laps around the parking lot .... didn't take more than 2 minutes before I had a crowd standing around watching and they ALL wanted to know where I got it ! Good thing they have a whole shelf full of 'em at TRU !! Man, I wish I was getting a commission on these things ..... I must have sold 20 of them already !!
Here's a mod I've been thinking about that I haven't read about yet : Has anyone tried pulling off the TOP wing and mounting the motors on the top of the lower wing ? You could shave off some of that "cockpit" area and have a pretty slim 'n sleek low wing look .... maybe reshape the tail feathers just a little racier ? .... maybe two light gauge wires off the bottom of the wing to protect the props on landings ? I don't know much about low wing physics, do you think it would fly ? Or would it want to turn belly up ? It would probably be pretty fast .... heeheehee, an AHAA! pylon racer !!:)
Yeah ..... I'm an AHAA!-holic, no doubt ..... and I'd bet dollars to donuts that as long as the wind stays down I'll be out trying to fly the parking lot by floodlight on my dinner break at 2:00 in the morning !! And there'll be 5-6 other guys out there too asking me if they can try it !! :eek:
qban_flyer
05-27-2006, 01:49 AM
Hi .... my name is Dave ..... and I'm an AHAA!-holic .....
Couldn't resist that TRU sale !! I held off for 2 whole days, but I had to stop in and pick one up on my way into work tonight ..... how many of you just said : "only one ??" :) It wasn't easy ..... but this makes my third so I'm hoping I'm gonna be OK for a while !
Got the orange one 'cause I really liked that "Tigress" paint job ! When I got to work the wind was finally down so I pulled my black/silver A off the back seat and did a few laps around the parking lot .... didn't take more than 2 minutes before I had a crowd standing around watching and they ALL wanted to know where I got it ! Good thing they have a whole shelf full of 'em at TRU !! Man, I wish I was getting a commission on these things ..... I must have sold 20 of them already !!
Here's a mod I've been thinking about that I haven't read about yet : Has anyone tried pulling off the TOP wing and mounting the motors on the top of the lower wing ? You could shave off some of that "cockpit" area and have a pretty slim 'n sleek low wing look .... maybe reshape the tail feathers just a little racier ? .... maybe two light gauge wires off the bottom of the wing to protect the props on landings ? I don't know much about low wing physics, do you think it would fly ? Or would it want to turn belly up ? It would probably be pretty fast .... heeheehee, an AHAA! pylon racer !!:)
Yeah ..... I'm an AHAA!-holic, no doubt ..... and I'd bet dollars to donuts that as long as the wind stays down I'll be out trying to fly the parking lot by floodlight on my dinner break at 2:00 in the morning !! And there'll be 5-6 other guys out there too asking me if they can try it !! :eek:
LOL! :D
The pretty one! :)
They should make honorary TRU "Salesperson Of The Week" :p
Let us know if you do the mod, plzzz. :o
Joe 1320
05-27-2006, 02:38 AM
Here's a mod I've been thinking about that I haven't read about yet : Has anyone tried pulling off the TOP wing and mounting the motors on the top of the lower wing ? You could shave off some of that "cockpit" area and have a pretty slim 'n sleek low wing look .... maybe reshape the tail feathers just a little racier ? .... maybe two light gauge wires off the bottom of the wing to protect the props on landings ? I don't know much about low wing physics, do you think it would fly ? Or would it want to turn belly up ? It would probably be pretty fast .... heeheehee, an AHAA! pylon racer !!:)
It doesn't work well. There isn't quite enough wing to keep it aloft. I tried the mod and was trying various ways to make it work. The only solution was more wing.
Gumby flies !
05-27-2006, 03:06 AM
:confused: :confused: Now isn't that weird ???? My neighbor took the lower wing off his and it flew dramatically better .... much faster rate of climb and better speed .... you'd think that removing the top wing and all the weight of that wing support "cockpit" area would make it even lighter ???? I haven't designed and built any planes since my hand launched balsa gliders 35 years ago, but it seems like it ought to fly ?
Oh DAMNIT !! Now you've gone and gotten my male "it should work" thing kicking on the inside of my skull again !! Maybe cutting the top wing in half and remounting it to the lower position (it IS a little bigger) and shaving off the motor nacelles .....:rolleyes: .... small wedges cut from the leftover fuse foam to get the motors mounted level ....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: .....hmmmmm .....
:eek: I just hope I can talk myself out of buying another one on the way home in the morning 'cause it's starting to look like I may have to start cutting one up !! :D
Wait a minute !!!!! What about the one I gave to my significant other ????:) She never flies it anymore ..... hmmmmmm ....
:cool: "What, honey ? Your plane? Nope, I haven't seen it, where did you last have it ?":cool:
qban_flyer
05-27-2006, 03:16 AM
High wing monoplanes are inherently more stable than low wingers, but since the AHAA!!! is so "inexpensive" it might be worth experimenting with. :)
Just be careful in your upper wing removal phase, so in case you don't like what you end up with, you can always put it back on. :D
Joe 1320
05-27-2006, 03:28 AM
:confused: :confused: Now isn't that weird ???? My neighbor took the lower wing off his and it flew dramatically better .... much faster rate of climb and better speed .... you'd think that removing the top wing and all the weight of that wing support "cockpit" area would make it even lighter ???? I haven't designed and built any planes since my hand launched balsa gliders 35 years ago, but it seems like it ought to fly ?
It's not the reduction of the weight, it's the reduction of lift. The plane with just the lower wings will fly if you can get it going faster than what these motors will put out. The slower the speed, the more wing you need to generate lift. Conversly, the faster you go, the less wing you need to keep the airframe aloft. Also with increased wing goes increased drag. This is why it flies slower with both wings and faster when you pull off the bottom ones. It's not the decrease in weight that makes the most difference there, it's the reduction of drag. I was able to get it to fly with the lower wing only by adding an extra two inches to the wing. you have to remember that the top wing is not only longer, but wider as well. If you try to fit the upper wing into the sides where you took out the lower wing, it won't fit without modifications. That top wing has more surface area than it looks. ;)
Gumby flies !
05-27-2006, 03:44 AM
If you try to fit the upper wing into the sides where you took out the lower wing, it won't fit without modifications. That top wing has more surface area than it looks. ;)
"It won't fit without modifications" ??????? :D :D :D
Modifications iz whut we live for !! :)
I guess I'll hold off on that one for a bit (yeah, right !:p ) since I'm thinking I'd want to shave off that whole top of the fuse and then I wouldn't be able to put the top wing back .... the little things are so much fun I wouldn't be happy if I ruined one .... :confused: ruined one ? I guess I'd still have all the electronics though, wouldn't I ? And they have a whole rack of balsa down at the LHS .....
:) I don't have anywhere near enough time (or cash) for this hobby !!
nstaller
05-27-2006, 03:46 AM
Ken
I haven't cut into the plane (yet), but will try to locate that info for you.
Thanks I would appreciate it.
qban_flyer
05-27-2006, 04:29 AM
"It won't fit without modifications" ??????? :D :D :D
Modifications iz whut we live for !! :)
I guess I'll hold off on that one for a bit (yeah, right !:p ) since I'm thinking I'd want to shave off that whole top of the fuse and then I wouldn't be able to put the top wing back .... the little things are so much fun I wouldn't be happy if I ruined one .... :confused: ruined one ? I guess I'd still have all the electronics though, wouldn't I ? And they have a whole rack of balsa down at the LHS .....
:) I don't have anywhere near enough time (or cash) for this hobby !! Welcome to the club!!! :D
nstaller
05-27-2006, 04:41 AM
Take a magnifying glass and observe the rear left corner of the circuit board just to the left of where the rear mast attaches to the board, it will say "ANT" ....... that's where you re-solder the antenna.
Thanks, I will give it a look.
Gumby flies !
05-27-2006, 05:06 AM
:) :) I just got back in from a midnight AHAA! fix ! I couldn't resist it, the air is absolutely dead calm .... I had her flying circles around the sodium light pole like a big ole moth !! It's the black and silver one so I had to be careful on the edges of the light .... awful easy to lose sight of her when she slips into "the dark side" !!
Three more guys standing there watching .... just like little kids !!:D (me too !)
One guy says "I bet you can't fly it in one loading door and out the other" and Man !! I almost tried it !! Then I remembered ..... "Bet you can't" and "Watch this" are almost always bad news when you're flying !!:p
:cool: I'll probably just wait till noone's watching before I try it !! :rolleyes:
And then I'll fly it perfectly, too ..... as long as noone is watching .....
qban_flyer
05-27-2006, 05:51 AM
:) :) I just got back in from a midnight AHAA! fix ! I couldn't resist it, the air is absolutely dead calm .... I had her flying circles around the sodium light pole like a big ole moth !! It's the black and silver one so I had to be careful on the edges of the light .... awful easy to lose sight of her when she slips into "the dark side" !!
Three more guys standing there watching .... just like little kids !!:D (me too !)
One guy says "I bet you can't fly it in one loading door and out the other" and Man !! I almost tried it !! Then I remembered ..... "Bet you can't" and "Watch this" are almost always bad news when you're flying !!:p
:cool: I'll probably just wait till noone's watching before I try it !! :rolleyes:
And then I'll fly it perfectly, too ..... as long as noone is watching .....AAAAAAHAA! Feels good! :p
Me too. Just got back in the house. The temp is in the mid 70s and not a twig moving. Perfect front yard flying weather for two of my AHAA!!!s.
Gotta turn in, we have three big days ahead of us at CASA, our all electric club. Saturday and Sunday is our Spring Sizzle and on Memorial Day we have an F5J even all day long. :D
So I'll be offline most of the weekend during daytime. :o
bobskinner
05-28-2006, 01:48 AM
woohoo! AHAA rocks, so after much waitingI finally went down the mountain to a Toys R Us and discovered to my joy that the AA were still 33%off so I promptly bought a blue C and red B plane ! then there was the long wait of driving around and lookibng at cars for a friend (I also bought a E-starter at hobby store, my first actual plane!) So we eventuall got home at 1am Saturday morning, of course I could not wait so I charged up my AHAA's and walked out to an open, slightly lit parking lot on our property. The AHAA is my first ever e-flight! It was AWESOME! and I am glad to say, my concerns about the plane not getting enough lift at 8750ft where i stay was totally crushed it rockets around! so cool! I flew both planes till about 3am, and this morning at 10:30 popped the little spring off the speed lever, it rocks, flew in some wind today, divebombed some guy's car landed on a roof, got stuck in a tree, hit a 30ft high lamp post and then it glided to a beautiful landing all by itself! this little plane is amazing!
Thank you everybody for talking so high of this plane, that is what sold it to me.
Another one bites the AHAA dust :)
firemanbill
05-28-2006, 02:15 AM
That is so cool Bob!:D Glas to hear you have had so much fun with it already!
Another AHAA! addict... welcome to WF and the addiction, obsession, or whatever else you want to refer to it as.
qban_flyer
05-28-2006, 03:10 AM
Same here Bob!!!! :D
BTW guys, the latest statistics are 25,534 hits on this here thread and 693 posts to it! :D
The AHAA!!! rocks! :D
rahtware
05-28-2006, 07:48 PM
Hey guys
Does this look familiar???
12187
http://www.nitroplanes.com/wolidimircre1.html
Who was it that was talking about the blue and yellow AHAA?
Earle
05-28-2006, 10:14 PM
Ohhhh!!!! RIp! Rip! Someone else trying to get in on the goodies after the market is made?
qban_flyer
05-28-2006, 11:34 PM
Boy! Does it ever! :eek:
I hate the looks of the transmitter, though. :o
I think they have no clue as to what they are selling. NiMH batteries? :confused:
Joe 1320
05-29-2006, 12:47 AM
You have to figure that returns end up somewhere. There are refurbishing companies that buy up all the store returns for literally pennies. They fix minor defects, add a fresh look and resell them for below retail. They still make a profit.
qban_flyer
05-29-2006, 02:23 AM
You have to figure that returns end up somewhere. There are refurbishing companies that buy up all the store returns for literally pennies. They fix minor defects, add a fresh look and resell them for below retail. They still make a profit.Yeah!
But that tranny, the paint "job' and no windshiled makes one wonder what gives. :confused:
I wonder if these are not rejects from another art of the world. :confused:
WillBBC
05-29-2006, 02:33 AM
Well, we had a barbecue today for my brother and we wound up breaking all three frequencies out. I bought 4 this past week at the Toys R Us sale. To say they were the hit of the party would be a disgusting understatement.
These things are such a blat, it's ridiculous. We had three plane races slaloming between utility poles. We used my brother PT Cruiser as a landing craft--first to land on the car wins. We opened his windows, first to land in the car wins. The possibilities are endless.
firemanbill
05-29-2006, 02:36 AM
I'd say they get them from the same factory in China and put the different tx with it. I'm with ya though Qban, it doesn't sound like they know what they are selling.
That thing would drop like a rock with a big 'ol NiMH Battery in it:eek:
Think I
ll stick with the mighty AHAA!
firemanbill
05-29-2006, 02:40 AM
Welcome Tom! Glad you are having fun with there family with the AHAA!
Also glad to hear TRU replaced it for you. Another reason to buy locally!
I've never seen the F-16 in action but we have one of the 117's. similar plane. My recommendation, stay with the AA until the new jet model comes out.
Bill
jimw1956
05-29-2006, 03:54 AM
Well I went out flying late this afternoon. Flew my Slo-V successfully for several flights...(Qban, I would have to agree with your quote about the Slow Stick...the Slo-V is it's V-tailed cousin, and it is truly a great design and fun to fly.
Between battery charges for the V, I flew my little Aero Ace. I was flying at the local club field, mainly used for gas planes...it was so weird to see that little bitty plane flying around that big old field!
I had one really neat landing...I would have to preface this with a disclaimer that it's probably not a good idea, safety wise, but I was actually able to land the Aero on my outstretched hand! Guess I've got it trained pretty well.
Anyhow it was a great afternoon...first outing with the Slo-V without any mishaps or bad landings, and of course the Aero is always a blast.
Mine is still nosing up a lot..got to work on that. These things are so much fun to fly though, I hate to use up time working on it.
rahtware
05-29-2006, 06:47 AM
Ho boy...
Just back from my sons house where we did the "turning with the throttle off" mod. Works great! At 26 cents US for the two diods, this was a cheap fix. It has been windy around here from the day I bought the AHAA... So I have only been able to do short flights that end up with the AHAA being blown down wind...:( Maybe tomorrow.
rahtware
05-29-2006, 02:50 PM
I stand with hat in hand...
To the weight-in-the-nose gang I must apologize.
At 6AM I awoke to the sound of silence... NO WIND! I jumped out of bed, grabbed my AHAA and ran out into the back field...
Tail tweak, done; transmitter mods, done; battery charged, done! The AHAA was ready, I was ready... Power on, the perfect toss... into the most porpoising flight I have ever seen! Brought it back to me (the throttle mod worked perfect), reset the tail, perfect toss, nosed-in before I could stop it...
After much fuss with the tail I was able to fly out the battery, but never got rid of the porpoising! I have my nephews plane (am going to do the trans mod now that I know it works) so checked it against mine... What I found was a big difference in motor thrust lines. I don't know if I had changed his when I glued them back on, or if they came that way, but his motors don’t point down as much as mine. I guess I will have to try that mod to my AHAA.
To sum this up, due to the differences in AHAAs, nose weight (if it works for you) is the best way to go. Having said that I must explain that being half Norwegian I can't stand things that aren’t perfect so will go the hard way and try to reset the motors...
Good flying
Grasshopper
05-29-2006, 03:02 PM
Well....Normal day here. Windy as all get out. Haven't flown for two weeks. Charged all my batteries last night, loaded all my planes in the car, set the alarm for 5:30. Got up....looked out....trees bent over like a cheap recurve bow.....went back to bed.
Ok...enough for the crying. I haven't been able to get my newest AA (the Flying Tiger) in the air yet. On my original AA, I tried aligning the tail with the wing and either I did it completely wrong or it didn't work for me. It seemed to always dive until I put it back to the original position. Is it supposed to be parallel with the wing?
Tom
firemanbill
05-29-2006, 03:13 PM
I feel your pain on the wind Tom.:( I leave mine as is and they fly great. I put just a tad bit of down elevator to keep it from doing the weave...
Not to rub it in as it has been windy here forever as well but today it is dead calm. Me and Doppelganger's brother are headed for the flying field shortly:D :D :D
Bill
rahtware
05-29-2006, 03:15 PM
Well....Normal day here. Windy as all get out. Haven't flown for two weeks. Charged all my batteries last night, loaded all my planes in the car, set the alarm for 5:30. Got up....looked out....trees bent over like a cheap recurve bow.....went back to bed.
Ok...enough for the crying. I haven't been able to get my newest AA (the Flying Tiger) in the air yet. On my original AA, I tried aligning the tail with the wing and either I did it completely wrong or it didn't work for me. It seemed to always dive until I put it back to the original position. Is it supposed to be parallel with the wing?
Tom
No. On both of ours the sweet-spot seems to be with the tail pulled down until the leading edge of the rudder is about mid-line in the plastic piece.
rahtware
05-29-2006, 03:18 PM
I also noticed that the right motor's thrust line is off. That would account for the want-to-go-left problem.
Grasshopper
05-29-2006, 03:33 PM
Have a great day Bill! Maybe I should send my planes to you so they can actually see what it's like to fly.
Grasshopper
05-29-2006, 03:35 PM
Hi Larry,
Can you explain a little more what plastic piece you are describing that the leading edge of the rudder is about mid line with?
Thanks,
Tom
Earle
05-29-2006, 04:33 PM
Day ten of wind in western Washington - my grandkids are getting ready to go back home and we have not had a minute of flying. Thinking of moving to Virginia so I can fly. AAnyway - the variability of these planes on of the box is really an issue. i hope SpinMaster gets their production accuracy figured out for the next plane but for $30 bucks it's still a good deal and the fussing with it give us all somei nteresting chat time. AAnyway - my two channel A planes took no tail adjustment at all - and only had minor porposing. One of my Cs needed to have the tail boom bent down a couple of degrees because even full down elevator didn't help much and then it draged like crazy. Pullin the rudder down a bit at the top (Pulling it a little out from the black mounting clip and inserting a very small wedge between the top of the rudder and the inside of the wedge) helps also. Engin mounting is a big issue. Sometimes no amount of rudder and trim adjustment is enough to get it to fly streight and with full sideways rudder as soon as you let up on power it will go into a tight spin. So - sometimes you just have to pull a moter off and experiment with resetting it. Double face tape helps a lot if you have to move it around several times to get it right. Good luck and pray for the wind gods to give us a break.
rahtware
05-29-2006, 07:38 PM
Hi Larry,
Can you explain a little more what plastic piece you are describing that the leading edge of the rudder is about mid line with?
Thanks,
Tom
Tom
The mount that holds the tail pieces... I think it's plastic... Anyway, it is the black part between the tail boom and the foam tail pieces.
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Grasshopper
05-29-2006, 07:40 PM
Amazing what a picture can do. I get it now.
Thanks Larry.
Earle
05-29-2006, 07:42 PM
Ahhh AAs - got just 30 min with very low wind for the grandkids to fly but had to use the monowing mod to have enough power and control to not fly away. Even flew my F16 lawn dart a couple of times. Feels good!
Earle
05-29-2006, 07:43 PM
Glad you got it Grasshopper. Let us know how it works
Grasshopper
05-29-2006, 07:47 PM
Thanks Earle. If the winds ever die down I will. Just got done spending a wonderful time mowing and trimming the yard. I don't know why I continue to seed and fertilize just so I can mow it every 4 days. Maybe I should try Roundup on the whole thing and get more flying time.
Earle
05-29-2006, 08:31 PM
Pave it and put wheels on your AAs and have a lot more fun. But who Am I to talk - half an acre with trees to get my AAs out of.
rahtware
05-29-2006, 09:33 PM
That's why I love to come down to Sonoma (CA), 30 acres of open grassland! When I'm down here I fly at a nearby St park that has the open fields to protect the view from a historical building.
BTW, I fixed my AHAA... By accident. On the walk to the field I was trying to fly down the road when it went in hard. After that it flew great with very little zooming! I don't know what that crash did (shifted the battery?), but whatever it was fixed the problem.
Earle
05-30-2006, 01:26 AM
Great solution Larry!
Hay - I got to wondering how many AAs people had. I have only 5. One unmodified of each frequency, one modified as a monowing and one still in the box. I think I'll not get any more and wait to see what Spin Master is doing to change the 06 model and jet.
Frodo
05-30-2006, 03:02 AM
I got back from the mountains today (Tioga PA). I had a great time flying this weekend! I took up my AHAA! mono wing and my Firebird Commander 2. Saturday I got some great flights out of my AHAA! The range on it is incredible for such a small plane. The wind took it at least 250ft away but I still had control. The only time I lost control was when my battery went flat. The plane took off straight and level but dropped well before the tree line. Turns out I had not plugged the charge line in properly and the battery did not charge after my last flight.
On Sunday there was a mini jet stream coming up from the lower field past the house to the top field. Twice my plane got caught in this and all I could see of it was a tiny dot way up in the sky. I could not turn it around because the wind was too strong for it. Also the sun was in my eyes and I could not see much of anything. I cut the throttle and dropped the plane in the top field and watched where it landed. After a bit of hiking I found it. Good thing it is orange! The mono wing handles gentle to medium wind quite well. I have a modified tranny with the throttle spring removed and the turn mod.
My Commander 2 did not fair as well. I got two good flights out of it but it was doomed from the start. I walked all the way down to the lower field because there are no trees and it is at least 100 acres big. I made sure the trims were centered, opened the throttle all the way and threw the plane level to the ground. The plane immediately pulled to the left and plowed into the field. The wing is held on by rubber bands and it pulled to the left on impact. The prop tore a section out of the wing. I tried to launch it again with the same result. On the third attempt I moved the steering trim to the right and tossed the plane on an upward angle and got my hand back quickly to the tranny. The plane felt heavy compared to my AHAA! (duh) and it kind of looked like some big bird as it climbed and picked up speed. Before I knew it the plane was a tiny speck in the sky. There was a bit of wind up there and my plane kept wanting to fly toward the tree line to my right. I knew if the plane flew over the trees it would be lost forever. I fought with the controls but the blasted active crash technology in the electronics kept taking me out of the turns I was giving it to turn away from the trees. Eventually I did get it heading back to me. Now you would think I was having fun flying this plane but I was terrified. All I could think of was “OMG it is so high up, how am I going to get it down?!” This plane is a two channel and I do not have elevators to bring it down. When I cut the throttle to descend the wind would take it. The damage to the wing proved to be too much and as I was bringing the plane around I saw the left wing fold up slightly and the plane plowed straight into the ground. The plastic fuse buckled slightly but nothing a hair dryer and a little bending won’t fix. I’m going to order two more wings tomorrow.
At least my AHAA! saved the weekend.
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rahtware
05-30-2006, 06:15 AM
Did the turn-without-throttle mod to my nephews AHAA trans tonight, works great!
Flew mine again today and let my other nephew fly(?) it... He is only 4 so the flights consisted of wild turns ending with a controled crash landing in the tall grass. He had a blast, but not as much fun as I had watching him.
qban_flyer
05-30-2006, 06:33 AM
Way to go! :D
firemanbill
05-30-2006, 12:27 PM
Did the turn-without-throttle mod to my nephews AHAA trans tonight, works great!
Flew mine again today and let my other nephew fly(?) it... He is only 4 so the flights consisted of wild turns ending with a controled crash landing in the tall grass. He had a blast, but not as much fun as I had watching him.
That's what its all about isn't it Larry? Watching the kids, (old or young, but especially young) having fun with this and spending time with role models that they can really look up too!
And we get have to have fun to boot as well!
qban_flyer
05-30-2006, 02:26 PM
That's what its all about isn't it Larry? Watching the kids, (old or young, but especially young) having fun with this and spending time with role models that they can really look up too!
And we get have to have fun to boot as well!HMMM!!!
Isn't that the way the Hokey-Pokey used to be done? :D
firemanbill
05-30-2006, 02:47 PM
HMMM!!!
Isn't that the way the Hokey-Pokey used to be done? :D
Careful Qban, people may figure out how old you really are!:eek: :D
jimw1956
05-31-2006, 02:49 AM
I had a little time at the end of the day today, so I took the AA out to the local soccer fields. Flew it everywhere, high and low...this little plane still amazes me. Did the throttle mod on my transmitter the other day and that works great. Seems like the more I fly it the better it flies.
I picked up a CCflyer at Radio Shack on closeout the other day and got around to flying it...this plane is really a shame...has all the makings of a great little plane but no throttle control or elevators...flies decent on what little charge the battery holds but absolutely no control on a landing.
I wouldn't actually say you can land it, you just decide where and when you want the crash to occur. Oh well, I guess when you buy a $20 plane and it comes with 4 props, that should tell you something.
Wonder if it would be possible to mod one of these with micro servos and a mini ESC? the plane is cute and very light, just needs elevator and a variable throttle control.
TNflier
05-31-2006, 03:04 AM
I was flying my AA at the domed stadium where where the US NATS are held for indoor rubber power free flight and someone mentioned a mod where the lower wings are removed and glued to the the ends of the top wing. Making the top wing about twice as long as normal, and no lower wing.
Has anyone one actually done this and what were the results?
BTW, the rubber fliers were so impressed a group of them took off for TRU only to return empty handed. All sold out.
One has to wonder if the whole kit goes for $20, just what could we get the plane alone for? Don't need a bunch of transmitters, for sure.
pvflier
05-31-2006, 03:09 AM
I've got a spare AHAA battery,has anyone wired them in parallel,just to see if it would work?Dunno if it would handle the extra weight?
TNflier
05-31-2006, 03:14 AM
I've got a spare AHAA battery,has anyone wired them in parallel,just to see if it would work?Dunno if it would handle the extra weight?
Why would you want to? Mine flies so long, I am more than ready to land. Many times I come down before the battery is exhausted. Maybe it is an age thing?
pvflier
05-31-2006, 03:17 AM
Why would you want to? Mine flies so long, I am more than ready to land. Many times I come down before the battery is exhausted. Maybe it is an age thing?
I dunno,I'm 41 and I am always disappointed when my battery runs out:cool:
rahtware
05-31-2006, 03:46 AM
Went to the local TRU today to buy a 3rd AHAA, had it in my hand when I noticed a funny shaped box behind the others...
Turned out to be an AHAA jet! I dropped the little bipe, grabbed the jet and headed for the door. The bummer is it was $29.95! $10 bucks more then the bipe, but I had to try one out...
Haven't flown it yet (wind), planning on a morning assault on the back (battle) field.
TNflier
05-31-2006, 03:47 AM
I'm 64 and the ten minutes or whatever I get is plenty of flying in one stretch for me. You have to fly it 100% of the time. There is no free glide mode. Don't get me wrong, I love the little bugger.
Grasshopper
05-31-2006, 03:47 AM
Well my newest AHAA "Flying Tiger" got to maiden tonight. The winds laid down and it was dead calm. I got to run 3 charges through it before it got dark. Of course I had several neighbors out marveling at it again. This one flew great. Straight out of the box with only the throttle spring removed, it flew better than ever. There were a couple of times it got so high up I was concerned I was going to loose radio contact. I pointed it back towards me and killed the motors and it glided right back down to me in a straight line. When it got about 10 feet off the ground, I gave it about 1/2 throttle and cimbed back out again. These things are amazing. I'm already thinking about what kind of design to put on my new red one. Do any of you still find yourself trying to pull back on the stick to flare it out?
It's great to still be a kid! :D:D:D
Tom
TNflier
05-31-2006, 03:58 AM
I am finding that it will make smoother turns by just using the trim knob. Apperantly, it is a finer adjustement to the motor speed differential than the right stick, and the turns are less sharp and more smooth looking. I use the rudder tab to make any offset needed so the trim does not need to the all the way either direction for reasonably straight flght.
Mike Freas
05-31-2006, 04:26 AM
Well my newest AHAA "Flying Tiger" got to maiden tonight. The winds laid down and it was dead calm. I got to run 3 charges through it before it got dark. Of course I had several neighbors out marveling at it again. This one flew great. Straight out of the box with only the throttle spring removed, it flew better than ever. There were a couple of times it got so high up I was concerned I was going to loose radio contact. I pointed it back towards me and killed the motors and it glided right back down to me in a straight line. When it got about 10 feet off the ground, I gave it about 1/2 throttle and cimbed back out again. These things are amazing. I'm already thinking about what kind of design to put on my new red one. Do any of you still find yourself trying to pull back on the stick to flare it out?
It's great to still be a kid! :D:D:D
Tom
Just wanted to say you the man for going to get me one on sale. It flies great but shows how weak my older AA is getting. I'm not sure if it's the battery or motors that need replaced. Thanks again!
Grasshopper
05-31-2006, 04:30 AM
Hey Mike,
Glad to hear you got it OK. I don't think I would want to go into business doing that, but I was happy to help a fellow flyer out. Have fun with it.
Tom
Crimson
05-31-2006, 04:35 AM
Went to the local TRU today to buy a 3rd AHAA, had it in my hand when I noticed a funny shaped box behind the others...
Turned out to be an AHAA jet! I dropped the little bipe, grabbed the jet and headed for the door. The bummer is it was $29.95! $10 bucks more then the bipe, but I had to try one out...
Haven't flown it yet (wind), planning on a morning assault on the back (battle) field. That's what I been waiting to hear!! Nice to know that they have hit the shelves in the US. :)
It is a sad day for my first born.:( Um... Air Born. My oranage AHAA has a broken tail stem. This was from a camping trip, when a friend "packed" his car, he "broke" my Ace. So, I do have one last reciept for an Ace and wonder if I should try to return this one. I would almost feel guilty, as I have put about 25-30 flights on it, it went a night through a rain storm and I have had it apart trying to solder LED's in. :D Think they will notice?!:p It really doesn't matter to me, I will probably just fix it or part it out. To buy another is no problem. Anyone had to fix there tail?
It was some great flying this past while too. The days have been very hot, humid, hazy.... absolutly no wind. My buddy took his way up and had no problem controlling at 100ft or so. The silver Ace flys great and so does my neice's red B channel. Good times.... :) Have Fun People!!
jimw1956
05-31-2006, 05:02 AM
I'm assuming the tail stem is hollow? If so couldn't you just find something the suitable size to put inside the stem and glue it back together? I'll bet some quick setting epoxy (used sparingly to avoid extra weight) would hold forever.
Grasshopper
05-31-2006, 05:12 AM
Could you splice a short piece of plastic drinking straw over the outside with a couple drops of CA?
qban_flyer
05-31-2006, 12:10 PM
I've just come home from one of my AHAA!!!s flying fields. Been there flying since 6:39 a.m., nothing like going out with four AHAA!!!s and spend sometime poking holes in the skies with them. :p
YUP! it is 7:09 a.m. but my field are within "walking distance", they are my front & backyards. :D
firemanbill
05-31-2006, 12:12 PM
That's what I been waiting to hear!! Nice to know that they have hit the shelves in the US. :)
It is a sad day for my first born.:( Um... Air Born. My oranage AHAA has a broken tail stem. This was from a camping trip, when a friend "packed" his car, he "broke" my Ace. So, I do have one last reciept for an Ace and wonder if I should try to return this one. I would almost feel guilty, as I have put about 25-30 flights on it, it went a night through a rain storm and I have had it apart trying to solder LED's in. :D Think they will notice?!:p It really doesn't matter to me, I will probably just fix it or part it out. To buy another is no problem. Anyone had to fix there tail?
It was some great flying this past while too. The days have been very hot, humid, hazy.... absolutly no wind. My buddy took his way up and had no problem controlling at 100ft or so. The silver Ace flys great and so does my neice's red B channel. Good times.... :) Have Fun People!!
Integrity Crimson! :D
Sounds like you just need to repair that one:) It should be a fairly easy fix. Maybe a piece of carbon tubing. Shouldn't be more than a buck or two for a piece that short.
qban_flyer
05-31-2006, 12:22 PM
Went to the local TRU today to buy a 3rd AHAA, had it in my hand when I noticed a funny shaped box behind the others...
Turned out to be an AHAA jet! I dropped the little bipe, grabbed the jet and headed for the door. The bummer is it was $29.95! $10 bucks more then the bipe, but I had to try one out...
Haven't flown it yet (wind), planning on a morning assault on the back (battle) field.Nice to know, nice to know. ;)
I'll head for the TRUs on this area until I find me one. :D
firemanbill
05-31-2006, 12:29 PM
Same here Qban, Can't wait to get me one or twelve of those:eek:
Oldpilot
05-31-2006, 01:14 PM
I live in Sydney Australia, and I can't find an AHAA anywhere.
I've tried all the toy stores sucha Toys R Us, Uncle Tobys Toys, K-Mart etc; and they always seem to be "Just out of stock--no more for two months" :rolleyes:
Very frustrating. :confused:
qban_flyer
05-31-2006, 01:28 PM
Same here Qban, Can't wait to get me one or twelve of those:eek:One won't cut it with me. :eek:
Twelve, now that's more like it. :D
It's just about the quantity of Air Hogs Jets the Qban Air Farce needs to defend its AHAA!!! "flying fields". :o
Grasshopper
05-31-2006, 02:38 PM
My wife is asking me why I have six of them still in the boxes on the bench? What boxes? What bench? I didn't see any.......
firemanbill
05-31-2006, 02:41 PM
My wife is asking me why I have six of them still in the boxes on the bench? What boxes? What bench? I didn't see any.......
Boxes? What Boxes? Oh those boxes....:eek: I'm holding those for a friend! lol
rahtware
05-31-2006, 02:55 PM
Bad news, My AHAA jet has radio problems.:(
I charged it up last night and tried to run the motors but they wouldn't run properly. I hope TRU has another one hidden away.
Grasshopper
05-31-2006, 03:00 PM
I was actually going to put a few of them on E-Bay but I'm starting to get seperation anxiety. I'll have to interview each buyer to make sure they're going to a good home and get out for lots of play time.
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