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CarreraGTSCS
09-18-2007, 05:57 PM
Here's my Ben Buckle Fokker EV/DVIII. Built it in the 1980's for glow and never flew it. Recovered the wing, took some weight out of it and loaded it with modern e-powered gear and she flies great. Here's the proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqliQNn37f0

WWI Ace
09-18-2007, 07:03 PM
Hey Carrera!! Martin and I also have this kit and intend to make it electric. Can you tell us what all you did to lighten it? It looks like it flies VERY slowly. I like that!! I didn't want a racing plane!! You've made me feel much better about this kit. BTW, my wife sometimes laughs at me too when I fly!!! Steve.

CarreraGTSCS
09-18-2007, 07:19 PM
Steve,

I was nervous a little about flying it. Peter Rake mentioned in another thread once that he could never get it to fly right and just kept crashing it. As you can see, it does fly.

To lighten it I took off the stock tail group (I made it removeable years ago when I first built it) and made a new tail assembly from 6mm Depron stiffened with balsa and bamboo kebab skewers. I removed all of the kit supplied turtleback parts from the cockpit opening back and used a single skewer on the centerline spine. Gives it a more scale shape too. From the nose and cockpit floor area I removed as much ply as I could get to. The battery is a 10-cell 1100mah AEL nicad pack that I made form cells lying about. I picked up a number of 2000mah nimh 1/3 sub-C cells to make a better pack. The AEL sag after about 2 minutes. They're pretty old and may need a few cycles to get their life back. Anyway, the pack is mounted ahead of the firewall just below the GWS EPSD 350 motor. That's the GWS dual 350 motor. Uses a 13x6.5 GWS slow flyer prop. Uses pull-pull on the rudder and music wire pushrod to the elevator. I'll change that to pull-pull too. Took off the Williams wheels and made my own from light ply and 1/8" foam. The axle is 4mm CF rod.

I'll put it back on the scale in a little bit. I'm charging the battery for a flight this evening.

Mike

oimmuk
09-18-2007, 09:15 PM
This is one of three Fokkers I want to build all based off the same fusalage, the other two are a midwing called the D17 and the third is a low ing called the D25. One of these days I will get 41459:D

BTW Sorry about the size there... :(

CarreraGTSCS
09-18-2007, 09:23 PM
This a photo of one?

oimmuk
09-18-2007, 09:50 PM
This a photo of one?

Yup found that photo and I was looking at the Ailerons on it they sure seem different from the other planes, but I really want to build the low wing D25 first.

CarreraGTSCS
09-18-2007, 10:06 PM
Just weighed it. AUW is 3.8 lbs. Gained some weight with the nicads and covering/glue. If the wind gusts ease up some I'll fly again this evening. See if I can get more video.

Mike

hpag
09-19-2007, 11:03 PM
Hi
I can answer to German only, SORRY!
Hier meine Fokker in 1/8 aus DEPRON.
http://www.usergalerie.luzifuss.de/albums/userpics/normal_IMG_0459.JPG
http://www.usergalerie.luzifuss.de/albums/userpics/normal_IMG_0457.JPG
http://www.usergalerie.luzifuss.de/albums/userpics/normal_MG.JPG

Grüsse
Heinz

scalercflyer
09-20-2007, 02:57 AM
Mike, Steve and fellow WWI nuts. I for one think the DVIII is a great plane to model. It's also another of my favorite German aircraft. I have to confess Guys, I have been struggling lately with the decision of which plane to build for my winter project. I know it won't be a foamie! It just so happens I too (as Steve said) have the same kit. Also I happen to have another set of plans for a 2 1/2" to 1 foot scale(72" ws, 9" cowl) DVIII that I started building years ago. I think with a little persuasion, that she might be resurrected. What do you Guys think? Should I build the Ben Buckle kit or a scratch build the DVIII? BTW Steve, excellent job on the DVIII. You did us proud! Martin PS: Bless you for NOT making it RED! Take that Steve you crazy Texican!!!

CarreraGTSCS
09-20-2007, 03:43 AM
hpag-- Nice use of Depron. How a bout some flying photos?

scale-- How far along did you get in the scratchbuild all those years ago? Sounds pretty cool. Whichever you choose you'll enjoy it.

If you want to see an impressive EV/DVIII model go to www.flickr.com (http://www.flickr.com) and do a search for my photo album there under Mike K USA . I have my Rhinebeck photos posted there. About 200 of the 300 I took this year. There was a guy there with a 1/2 scale EV/DVIII and it was really something. I've loaded one shot of it here.

Mike

Voyager2lcats
09-20-2007, 05:38 AM
Hi
I can answer to German only, SORRY!
Hier meine Fokker in 1/8 aus DEPRON.
http://www.usergalerie.luzifuss.de/albums/userpics/normal_IMG_0459.JPG
http://www.usergalerie.luzifuss.de/albums/userpics/normal_IMG_0457.JPG
http://www.usergalerie.luzifuss.de/albums/userpics/normal_MG.JPG

Grüsse
Heinz

Heinze, ich spreche und lese nur ein bischen Deutsch, aber dein Fokker ist ausgezeichnet. Bestimmt!:)

Bob

hpag
09-20-2007, 08:33 AM
@Carrera, Voyager thx, danke! :ws:

I have a film, of a WWI Depron Meeting.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07jUyQIq40U)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07jUyQIq40U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07jUyQIq40U)
Viel Spass!

WWI Ace
09-21-2007, 01:37 AM
Thanks for the video hpag!!! It's about time you got back on here Martin!!! I think either D8 would be cool but the big one would definitely get someones attention!!! It's good to have some people to talk to again. Lets keep this stuff going!!! Well better go get ready for our second club meeting. Tonight we get our bylaws finished, charter papers sent, and officers elected. Should be interesting!!! If the weather stays dry we'll finish mowing our new field this weekend. Steve.

CarreraGTSCS
09-21-2007, 08:51 PM
Cool video. Nice group of planes. Looks like fun flying together.


Mike

CarreraGTSCS
09-22-2007, 05:16 AM
Who wants to see a new movie of my EV? Follow the link: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=746265#post8221750

I'm going to start a thread for the Polk's Fokker Dr1. I posted video of that one too. Both nice flyers.

Mike

scalercflyer
09-22-2007, 09:15 PM
That tears it Boys! I'm making the large DVIII my winter project (in between the other builds)! Plans, as always, are available to anyone who requests. I only ask for funds to cover coping and postage. BTW, nice job on the video Mike. I likey the way she flys. Martin PS: now where is that crazy Texican?

scalercflyer
09-22-2007, 10:11 PM
Check this out boys. Martin
http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/bill_spidle3/fokker_dviii_nx94100/

CarreraGTSCS
09-22-2007, 11:01 PM
Very cool. That's the fantasy of Flight Museum's DVIII replica. I didn't realize it had a rotary engine. I thought that they had a radial in it. Very cool.

Anyone ever go to the museum in Italy that is supposed to have the last remaining genuine DVIII?

Martin-- Which EV/DVIII plan do you have there?

Mike

scalercflyer
09-23-2007, 12:23 AM
Mike, the plan is from a Model Aviation magazine circa 1980? I have the original build article for it. The author built the plane for the WWI meet that was held at Old Rhinebeck. The plane flew with a FOX .45 and a 9" prop! The prop did not extend past the cowl which was 9"! Looks very weird. The scale is 2 1/2 foot to 1" scale so it's a big bird. I think the WS is around 72" This plane is a prime candidate for an electric upgrade don't you think? Preferably with something like a 12-14 inch prop that turns slowly. What do you think about a motor/batt combo? If I can find my camera I will take a picture of the plans and the fuse I built. I must say this thread has prompted me to think about building it again. That crazy Texican had something to do with it too! Martin

WWI Ace
09-23-2007, 04:49 AM
I'm here Martin!! I think you'll impress alot of people with the big Fokker!!! Steve.