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FlyingMonkey
09-24-2007, 10:50 PM
Has anyone bought one of these WWI Warbirds?

http://www.cedarhobbies.net/index.php?id=products&pid=1

I am tempted to pick one up, just wondering what the quaility is.

Biplane Murphy
09-24-2007, 11:24 PM
for $55 it is worth a try... let us know how it flies....

FlyingMonkey
09-25-2007, 01:37 AM
thanks pal...

so which one do you recommend?

Biplane Murphy
09-25-2007, 01:42 AM
Camel, Nieport or Albetross.... those aren't modeled as much in small electrics...

All say 31" and have ailerons...

I would likely go for the Albetross....

oimmuk
09-25-2007, 01:46 AM
I recomend the Albetross (http://www.cedarhobbies.net/index.php?id=product_desc&product=38), this should be a stable design. Of course you could go 3D on us...lol.

Biplane Murphy
09-25-2007, 01:49 AM
I recomend the Albetross (http://www.cedarhobbies.net/index.php?id=product_desc&product=38), this should be a stable design. Of course you could go 3D on us...lol.

Don't egg him on.... we don't need to see the exploding balsa trick anymore....:Q:Q:Q

gfdengine204
09-25-2007, 02:14 AM
Gee, I was kinda partial to the Sopwith Camel.......:)

Biplane Murphy
09-25-2007, 02:19 AM
I like the Camel too... but the Albetross is so different and sleek looking...

And the "Red Baron" had most of his kills flying one.:)

FlyingMonkey
09-25-2007, 02:53 AM
I am leaning towards the camel.

Grasshopper
09-25-2007, 03:16 AM
I've always liked the Albetross and you don't see many of them around.

FlyingMonkey
09-25-2007, 03:32 AM
Albertross...

it's been ruined for me, since seeing this one. I would never be happy with mine after seeing these.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1485192

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1485196

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1485198

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1485201

Grasshopper
09-25-2007, 03:37 AM
There's always going to be one nicer. Do it....Do it......you know you want to.

FlyingMonkey
09-25-2007, 03:57 AM
I want the camel...

Biplane Murphy
09-25-2007, 03:59 AM
I want the camel...

Then get it.....right now!!!:Q

FlyingMonkey
09-25-2007, 04:08 AM
sure...

what's your credit card number?

Biplane Murphy
09-25-2007, 04:11 AM
sure...

what's your credit card number?

It's.....**** **** **** ****

Hope that helps....:Q

FlyingMonkey
09-25-2007, 04:14 AM
Everytime I enter that number, they reject it.

Maybe you used it too much...

Biplane Murphy
09-25-2007, 04:19 AM
Everytime I enter that number, they reject it.

Maybe you used it too much...

:Q:Q:Q......Yep...all these planes I need to build had to be paid for somehow...... 2 more came in the mail today....1 of SG's P-40 kits....and also a Flying Wing kit he designed..... that's about 12 that need building or assembling...:<:

Geoffrito
09-26-2007, 04:20 AM
I'd go with the albatros too, its probably the sleekest plane of the war, but the Camel is a pretty good second =)

but blimey that's a nice looking plane there...I wonder how long that took him?

FlyingMonkey
09-27-2007, 12:56 PM
I am surprised that NO ONE has tried one of these planes.

The price seems good, and the quality looks good from what they show.

Maybe they need some new pictures on their site?

WWI Ace
09-27-2007, 06:09 PM
My biggest "turnoff" on them is the incredibly out-of-scale wing strut setup. Otherwise I would have bought one!! Steve.

7car7
12-17-2007, 09:07 PM
I bought the Albatros, and have been building it for a few weeks now. They call it an ARF, but it's much more of a kit than that. But to be fair, I've modified it a lot, and I'm sure some could just throw the gear in and be happy. I did not like the way the prop shaft just goes through the spinner, just not right. I also didn't like the shape of the nose. The fuse has a nice bullet shape taper, then all of a sudden, in the forward 2 inches, it sort of straightens out. I reduced the diameter of the nose, to make the shape more like the real one. I also painted the fuse to look like wood. I'm picky, and I am still fooled by it when I glance at it. Love that wood look. I also made a really nice functional (pivoting) tail skid. The fuse used to weigh 3.1 oz, now with tail skid is 3.2 oz. Totally worth it.

The plane is of OK quality, but it's not great. I've done a lot cosmetically. Hope it's not lipstick on a pig. It is not going to be super light by anymeans. Everything you get in the kit wieghs about 10oz. That's with no radio, electronics, battery, motor of course.

I've applied Lozenge "fabric" to the wings, both top and bottom. I printed on tissue paper, and then applied that to the wings with WBPU. The tail feathers were terribly warped, so I cut the guts out of them, and installed an ever-so-slight airfoil with balsa to them. Then I covered with Silkspan. The original tail group was 21 grams, now they are 25 grams. So, yes, this plane is adding up. I'm trying very hard to keep it around 15-16 oz when done, but it's a challenge.

Right now, I'm finishing up a hatch for interior/battery access. There was no way of getting inside this thing as designed. This hatch is where the real planes engine would go. I'll be making a foam or balsa engine to stick to this hatch.

Next up is the internals, I'm going to use a pull-pull method. Also, mine had no landing gear, I bought it on ebay, and many of the ebay ones don't have landing gear. I'll be making that from carbon fiber tube, and it will be sprung like the original.

I need to get some current pics, it looks NOTHING like this anymore...

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p156/7car7/RC/RCPlanes10_27_070012.jpg?t=1197925559

rap
02-26-2009, 09:45 PM
Is this thread still active? I hope so. I picked up a kit at a swap meet. Written on the box, in pencil, is "Cedar Hobbies - Camel". No instructions came with the kit. The span is about 30 1/4 inches. The struts do not look prototypical. However, the little plane looks pretty cute. So, my questions:
1-Does anybody know who is the manufacturer for the Cedar Hobbies Sopwith Camel?2-Are there any instructions available?
Please help me! Thank you!

MustangMan
02-26-2009, 09:51 PM
Google came up with this: http://www342.outtech.com/cedar/Default.htm

rap
02-26-2009, 10:14 PM
Roger that MustangMan! I searched that site this morning and couldn't locate any 30" span Camels there. I called the number and it wasn't active. I sent an e-mail and no reply yet. BTW You gave me a very quick reply ..... Thank you!

degreen60
02-27-2009, 12:50 AM
Does this look like the camel you got?
http://cgi.ebay.com/SOPWITH-CAMEL-ARF-BIPLANE-PARKFLYER-BRUSHLESS_W0QQitemZ270333402267QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories?_trksid=p3286.m20. l1116

You can stop worring about not having instructions and just ship it to me. HAHA

MustangMan
02-27-2009, 01:10 AM
Does this look like the camel you got?
http://cgi.ebay.com/SOPWITH-CAMEL-ARF-BIPLANE-PARKFLYER-BRUSHLESS_W0QQitemZ270333402267QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories?_trksid=p3286.m20. l1116

You can stop worrying about not having instructions and just ship it to me. HAHA

WOW! Is that an offer to assemble, outfit, and return the completed plane? VERY GENEROUS!:D:rolleyes:

degreen60
02-27-2009, 02:44 AM
WOW! Is that an offer to assemble, outfit, and return the completed plane? VERY GENEROUS!:D:rolleyes:

Yes, and after I test fly it until I crash I will return all the pieces to you collect post.

7car7
02-27-2009, 04:39 PM
I was searching, but can't find anything. I bought one of their models on ebay over a year ago. They changed their name on ebay, but I can't remember it. They don't show up in a search that used to work - "arf wwi"

I'm guessing that instructions won't really help much on that plane. Pretty much self explanitory. If you get stuck, just ask us here, we can help you thru it.