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Starmoon
11-25-2005, 08:18 PM
How hard is it to get used to turning a model left and right when the model is coming towards you??

KG4814
11-25-2005, 08:21 PM
Turn Stick In Derection Of Low Wing,opposite Of Going Away

Starmoon
11-25-2005, 08:27 PM
Turn Stick In Derection Of Low Wing,opposite Of Going Away


THANKS!!!!

debhicks
11-25-2005, 09:10 PM
It's hard at first then as you get used to it, it will become second nature. Now if you can just remember that up is down and down is up when your inverted you'll be OK!!:) I ain't got that yet.

Rugar
11-25-2005, 09:33 PM
It's hard at first then as you get used to it, it will become second nature. Now if you can just remember that up is down and down is up when your inverted you'll be OK!!:) I ain't got that yet.

The way I remembered when I learned to fly inverted was to think "Push" the plane up, or "Pull" it down with the right stick.

debhicks
11-25-2005, 09:46 PM
Hey that might work for me. Now if I can just get the guts to turn it upside down:) I'm chicken.

Starmoon
11-25-2005, 10:05 PM
Up and down will be ok, but turning will be troublesome......you guys have AWESOME tips.... Now...I can't wait to get my slow-V.. I'd love to get a SS, but I don't want to throw a lot of $$$ into a radio just yet.....

GallopingGhost
11-25-2005, 10:06 PM
How hard is it to get used to turning a model left and right when the model is coming towards you??
I was taught on the old standard "push to the low wing". If you need to start by turning your body and looking over the right or left shoulder as need be. Its cheaper to learn slow sometimes unless you like fast expensive lessons.:eek:

Jeremy Z
11-26-2005, 04:19 PM
Up and down will be ok, but turning will be troublesome......you guys have AWESOME tips.... Now...I can't wait to get my slow-V.. I'd love to get a SS, but I don't want to throw a lot of $$$ into a radio just yet.....

If I didn't have any gear yet, I'd go with the Slo-V anyhow. The V-tail is going to make for better banking turns than the conventional tail of the Slow Stick. I have to admit, I like the Red Baron paint scheme on the Slow Stick better though.

Have you downloaded FMS yet? If not, do that and buy a dual analog USB controller for your computer. FMS is a free simulator program, and you can get your directions straight BEFORE you maiden (and crash) your plane. The controller will cost you $20, the program & models are free. It will save you hundreds of dollars in crashed planes. I'm even learning to fly helicopters on it now. Learning 3D maneuvers can be crash-intensive too, hehehe.

Have a look at this little compliation I put together of Ed Andersons newbie tips. It is good stuff:

http://user.mc.net/~jzorns/RC_Tips.doc

I put it in Word format, so you can save it to your PC for later reference.


Good luck!

Rugar
11-26-2005, 04:56 PM
FMS is a good Sim for training your thumbs and learning orientation. I practised on FMS for about a week before attempting my first RC flight ever which was on a Slow Stick. I successfully had three flights that day without a crash. That was a year and a half ago and I now have 9 RTF Electrics including a 60 size which I hope to maiden next week, and 6 more kits waiting to be built. I now use AeroFly Pro Deluxe for my Sim. You would not believe how realistic this Sim is.

Jeremy Z
11-27-2005, 08:45 PM
You would not believe how realistic this Sim is.

Oh, but I would! I fly it every time I drop into Venture Hobbies. (my LHS) I like it better than RealFlight G3, which is at another hobby shop. I was going to buy it, but found out that my computer isn't up to the task. I've got a laptop (crappy video card) with a 1.5 GHz Celeron (as opposed to Pentium IV class). Damn. If only I could afford a new computer right now, I'd snap up that program.

I heard that Ikarus doesn't try to stick it to you for more models either. Is this true, or do you have to pay to download them?

Jeremy

Rugar
11-27-2005, 11:18 PM
I heard that Ikarus doesn't try to stick it to you for more models either. Is this true, or do you have to pay to download them?

Jeremy

All you pay for is AFPD, and then all models and scenery are free. The scenery that comes with it is not all that great or realistic, but you can download new ones that are actual scenes from flying fields. Its so real looking that it feels like you are there.

My AMD 3500+ with the GT6600 card runs VERY smooth. :D

Tailspin Ken
11-28-2005, 12:25 AM
I learned a different way. As the plane is coming toward you, turn your body in the direction you want to turn.The sticks will no longer be reversed. Just make a left or right turn as you wish. After a while it will become automatic and you will not have to turn your body.

Ken;)

savydad
11-28-2005, 09:33 PM
If you plan on staying in the hobby, I would recommend against getting one of the parkzone planes. Their radio system is proprietary, meaning you'll have trouble moving on later, and still have to buy that radio. I'm 4-5 months into my flying career and if I hadn't had the basic 4ch from a car experiment, I'd have gotten a comp. tx. Others say the servos are easily stripped on the pz planes as well. In the event you decide to get out (unlikely) you'll get a lot more return on your investment from the comp. tx and other equipment vs the pz line. Just my .02

Todd

Jeremy Z
11-29-2005, 04:36 AM
If you plan on staying in the hobby, I would recommend against getting one of the parkzone planes.

I think this is good advice too, even though I recommended the ParkZone Slo-V. In my opinion, people who are of the right mindset when they start this hobby are going to stay in it for a while.

Don't just think you're going to rush into things and be flying like a pro in a week or two. Not gonna happen, Cap'n.

Now how about that nice EasyStar? ;)

Jeremy

Starmoon
11-29-2005, 01:50 PM
Thanks for the replies. What I really need is a slow flyer that will fly at walking speeds and not stall. I want to learn and not be overly stressed out. At least I know going in that my SLo-V will not have any transferable parts .. and I won't be suprised.

savydad
11-29-2005, 07:02 PM
Yes, that was my concern, that you'd be unwilling to move on once you either crash that one or ready for another. FWIW, the slow stick is basically the same, and it only takes a couple hours to have it flight ready, $30 for the arf. Of course, you'll have to add servos/rx/batt/esc/tx to that, but you'll be much happier in the long run and be able to move it to other planes. GWS-ONLINE.COM has combos, and gwsexpert.com does as well...they'll let you go to a comp tx. IIRC

Todd

Starmoon
11-29-2005, 07:11 PM
Yes, that was my concern, that you'd be unwilling to move on once you either crash that one or ready for another. FWIW, the slow stick is basically the same, and it only takes a couple hours to have it flight ready, $30 for the arf. Of course, you'll have to add servos/rx/batt/esc/tx to that, but you'll be much happier in the long run and be able to move it to other planes. GWS-ONLINE.COM has combos, and gwsexpert.com does as well...they'll let you go to a comp tx. IIRC

Todd

I'll check it out....but the $$$$ was the big factor. I know that a good 6 channel Radio goes for over $300 CAD....

Starmoon
11-29-2005, 07:54 PM
http://www.greathobbies.com/graphics/pixel.gifhttp://www.greathobbies.com/products/f/fut/fut.gif
http://www.greathobbies.com/graphics/title_wwwecmccom.gif (http://dev.ecmc.com/frame_index.html)http://www.greathobbies.com/products/f/fut/fut4yfm.gif4YF 4-Channel Radio
w/Micro Flight Pack

Whether you're a beginner or a sport pilot looking for extra value in 4-channel control, the 4YF SkySport fills the bill. It's packed with features, in a sleek, slim case that conveys high tech. All accessoriness, including full NiCds, overnight charger, frequency flags, neck strap, and witch harness are supplied.
Includes:
S3108 Micro servos with four point horns
R114F Micro receiver
TX NiCds & charger

What you guys think? Work well with a slow stick?

Starmoon
11-30-2005, 03:53 PM
Another Question folks......


Does the manufacturer of the radio have to match the manufactuerer of the speed control?

Matt Kirsch
11-30-2005, 06:07 PM
Servos and ESCs are interchangeable from one brand to any other brand. There is only a slight difference in the servo plugs. On a Futaba, there is a key to ensure proper alignment, but otherwise the pin spacing, pinouts, and signals are the same.

That's an EXCELLENT combo for the slow stick.

flyranger
11-30-2005, 06:08 PM
No, you can mix and match the radio receiver and the ESC (electronic speed control). Whats more important is that the motor and the speed control work well together. I was an RC Flyer using glow about 15 years ago, but had to give it up do to family and lack of funds. Started flying again last June with electrics and having a ball. Thought I knew how to fly, built a Great Planes Lil' Poke and found my two old flying buddies helping me out - their names are "stall" and "crash". Swallowed my pride, bought a Great Planes Basic Light Trainer (BLT) and got some serious stick time. I crashed when the wing shifted on the fuse during the third consecutive loop! Obviously, I outgrew that plane...er...pile of sticks. Heh, heh. Next plane was a Graupner Tipsy. Hand launch too slow, stall and crash, completely crushing the foam nose, spilling the battery out on the grass! Bit the bullet again and bought a GWS Slow Stick. Many, many happy hours in the air. Modified a second slow stick (bought as a glider, no engine, for 20.00) with a brushless and put ailerons on the wing. Still flying. Put a brushless on the Lil' Poke and flew for about 6 hours in the air, turned the wrong way and dug a hole in the ground! Rescued the electronics, motor and battery. Built a new Lil' Poke with all my new found experience. Beefed up the landing gear, oversized the tires and it will now do touch and goes (although sometimes they are "bang and stays") for 20-30 minutes on my LiPo. Really enjoying this hobby. Too windy to fly now, building from plans a golden age vintage midwing. Oh yeah, forgot to mention, did many, many hours flying FMS. It really helped with the orientation problem all of us have in the beginning.

Starmoon
11-30-2005, 06:52 PM
http://www.greathobbies.com/graphics/pixel.gifhttp://www.greathobbies.com/products/g/gws/gws.gif
http://www.greathobbies.com/graphics/title_wwwecmccom.gif (http://dev.ecmc.com/frame_index.html)http://www.greathobbies.com/products/g/gws/gws1005.gifPico Stick
Fuselage Design

Wingspan:
Wing Area:
Length:
Engine:

http://www.greathobbies.com/graphics/pixel.gif37 in
237 sq in
26.2 in
IPS Included


Kit includes:
IPS R/C Indoor power system
Lightweight propeller
Ultralight wheels
Safety Spinner
Color instruction manual
Requires a 2 or three channel radio system with two sub-micro servos and one electronic motor controller, a 5 or 6-cell battery pack with a capacity from 110 to 270mAh, and a suitable charger.





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Thanks for the responses....I'm wondering what sub mico servo means as opposed to micro..it appears that I will have to buy new servos as well.. as he radio doesn't come with sub mico servos