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details
12-02-2007, 06:07 AM
Ok guys and gals,

I know that somebody must make a decent Nieuport 11 BeBe, or 17 out there! I don't count the one from Powerline Hobbies as it is much too long, with the engine cowling way out there to balance the overly heavey tail assembly.:)

I have seen the pictures of a Stein Models Nieuport N-17 that looks promising, but I haven't seen anyone willing to talk about them! Surely someone has one?:eek:

Anyhow, if any one knows of any other Nieuport 11 or 17 ARFs out there, please let me know.

Even a good set of plans for a foam one would help.

Thanks again,
Dave

Biplane Murphy
12-02-2007, 06:45 AM
33" Nieuport 11 Peter Rake design.....Kit by Manzano Lazerworks and they have great service.:)
http://www.manzanolaser.com/id78.html

These guys have a Nieuport 11 and 17 and 28.......
They even have the Nieuport triplane...:)
http://www.aerodromerc.com/

Hope this helps.....

Bub Steve
12-02-2007, 06:46 AM
try these guys,http://www.arizonamodels.com your bub, stevecooper

Bengtson
12-02-2007, 06:49 PM
Arizona Models resells our line as well. The photo shown in the previous post is our Nieuport 11.
www.aerodromerc.com (http://www.aerodromerc.com)

BTW, we have a 1/6th scale Nieuport 28 design finished and will be avialable as a proto kit in a week or so.

Bub Steve
12-02-2007, 07:18 PM
Bengtson (http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/member.php?u=5507):: cool, I'll have to check you out too, your bub, stevecooper

WWI Ace
12-02-2007, 07:32 PM
You can't go wrong with Aerodromes planes!! Well worth the money!!! Steve

details
12-02-2007, 10:59 PM
Thanks guys,

I guess I should have been clearer in the title of my thread. I am actually looking for a decent ARF of a Nieuport 17, or 11. I have a very hard time when I build a stick and tissue kit. I run out of energy or something when it gets close to time to cover it. Then I never get to detail it, which is my favorite part anyway! Go figure.

But I am intrigued by the good following of guys for Monzano, Aerodrome and Arizona!!! So when I get over or around my hang-up on building from pieces, I will go to them first!

Oh yea, don''t give up on me! One day I may get there.

Thanks again,
Dave

rcers
12-02-2007, 11:35 PM
Dave sadly WW1 birds are kits and few arf's exist. The planes have short noses, and to be honest most were not great flyers.

The stick builds are very light and forgive a great deal of those bad habits and they do well with super light tails to solve nose weight issues.

That said - Great planes has a few new ARFs but they are Dr1, DVII and the SE5a. Again the Nieuport's had SHORT noses likely the reason Great Planes started with the longer nosed ships (OK the DR1 isn't!).

There is this Nieuport 28 but it is not cheap....
http://www.atlantahobby.com/shopexd.asp?id=7020

Here is a kit:
http://www.aerodromerc.com/WWI/Nieuport28_36/Nieuport28_36t.htm


Horizon has a Camel - a large one. http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN4225

The Tritle and Rake stuff is wonderful, but you do have to have patience and they take time - but the reward is very high!
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=682850

GWS does make a Tiger Moth.....and Hobby Lobby carries these:
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/tigermothtiny.htm
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/tigermoth.htm
And this very large one!
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/supertigermoth.htm

Mike

WWI Ace
12-03-2007, 12:20 AM
Hey Details you probably haven't seen this one. I have emailed the company to see who the USA distributor is. Hopefully they'll get back to me after the weekend. Go to www.lxmodel.com (http://www.lxmodel.com) and see what you think. Steve

WWI Ace
12-03-2007, 12:29 AM
You can also find LXModel planes at www.giantscaleplanes.com (http://www.giantscaleplanes.com) but the Nieuport isn't listed on their site. We can ask if they're going to sell the Nieuport. It's worth a try!! Hope I helped! I also like Nieuport 11s and 17s!!!! Steve

Biplane Murphy
12-03-2007, 02:08 AM
Thanks guys,

I guess I should have been clearer in the title of my thread. I am actually looking for a decent ARF of a Nieuport 17, or 11. I have a very hard time when I build a stick and tissue kit. I run out of energy or something when it gets close to time to cover it. Then I never get to detail it, which is my favorite part anyway! Go figure.

But I am intrigued by the good following of guys for Monzano, Aerodrome and Arizona!!! So when I get over or around my hang-up on building from pieces, I will go to them first!

Oh yea, don''t give up on me! One day I may get there.

Thanks again,
Dave

Give it a shot.... Iron on covering is easy and fast....:)

WWI Ace
12-05-2007, 12:18 AM
I agree with Murph. It is a great feeling to go to the field with a plane that you built with your own hands. Steve.

jofrost
01-19-2008, 10:22 PM
Pat Tritle offers this nice little short kit if you feel like building one . I know you mentioned an ARF but just in case you change your mind .:)

http://www.patscustom-models.com/n17.htm

-John

degreen60
01-19-2008, 11:08 PM
Go here. Buy the file, enlarge to size you want and tile print it. Cut foam to shape of paper and fold to form the plane. Glue paper on and you don't even have to paint.

http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/AC/aircraft/Nieuport-17/nieu-17.php

spikkkkkkkk
06-11-2008, 02:56 AM
first of all stay away from arizona models it will take a year to get a kit if any thing at all then if you get it there will be missing parts, lousey lazer cutting, things wont fit and things promised on the website like wire wheels instead you'll get WB. I NOW THIS FIRST HAND. they took me for hundreds of dollars. jamie said he would fix and send that and basically make it right i never got anything. i called and e-mailed for months so i sent the kit back for a refund and i never got that either, i tried every week for 7 months then i gave up. now the important stuff nobody mentioned PROCTOR and they make one of the best kits in the world and there scale all the way i'm building a N-11 right now from them then theres GLENN TORRENCE MODELS and they make a great scale kit. these two places i mentioned arn't cheap but you get what you pay for with the exception of AZM WHERE YOU DONT GET ANYTHING AND THEY GET YOUR MONEY. aerodrome rc is great smaller short kits and manzano lazer is excellent to, smaller mshort kits. but proctor sells th VK line it's alot cheaper than the museum quality kits and it's a fine kit also. balsa u.s.a. sells some wonderful kits. there are plenty of great kits out there and it boils down to how big, how much and what kind.

WWI Ace
06-11-2008, 03:19 AM
I've heard alot of bad stuff about Arizona Models lately. Steve

degreen60
06-13-2008, 06:26 PM
Is this a good model?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=380035957704&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=025

WWI Ace
06-14-2008, 12:56 AM
I'm not sure but I bet if you buy one we'll find out!! Steve

lilleyen
01-27-2010, 06:23 PM
To revive an old thread:

Eflite has an excellent N17, and I think it's Electrifly or something like that, that has an excellent N11 too, both ARF's.:)

These are 35-36" Wing spans, slow flyers.

Sparky Paul
01-27-2010, 08:40 PM
Flies well also.
Typically with the rotary engined WWI planes, everything has to be mounted way up front.
My battery is stuck between the motor and the lower wing.

dbcisco
01-28-2010, 03:44 PM
I have two Guillows Nieuport 11's (die cut) and a Guillows Nieuport 28 (OOP) waiting to be built.
There is an old foamie N28 at the LHS I am temped to make on offer on as well.
Might do an N-11 when I finish the H-B.
I like the Guillows kits. A little on the heavy side but they take me back to my childhood.

degreen60
01-28-2010, 04:47 PM
There is an old foamie N28 at the LHS I am temped to make on offer on as well.


Is it a Scorpio Nieuport 28? I need the COG for one of those I rebuilt.

dbcisco
01-28-2010, 05:04 PM
Yes it is. If I get it I will send you a copy of the instructions. They have it marked at $80 but I am going to offer them a lot less since parts aren't available etc. and I am cheap and it has been on the bottom shelf for over a year.

details
01-29-2010, 01:24 AM
There is an old foamie N28 at the LHS I am temped to make on offer on as well.

dbcisco,

If you don't get that Nieuport 28, I would love to work out a deal with you for it. Especially if you can get the LHS to come down on their price some - means more profit for you:cool:. PM me!

Dave

Longtimeflyer
02-12-2010, 08:00 PM
This will soon be available as a kit. I am twisting the original designer / builder's arm, Danny, to cut a few more kits and get them out to enthusiastic modellers. I have been flying RC for 40 years, and have never flown such a realistic flying scale model.

It is a beautiful model, accurately scaled and rib-for-rib like the real aircraft.

Light weight is the secret!

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51556

WWI Ace
02-13-2010, 02:17 PM
I would like to know when this kit becomes available Longtimeflyer!!! Steve

Longtimeflyer
02-13-2010, 09:40 PM
I will let you know the moment that happens. You gotta have one :ws:

WWI Ace
02-13-2010, 11:56 PM
Cool!!! Thanks!!! Steve