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sheldo78
02-19-2008, 01:29 AM
Can any one suggest a company that carries World War 1 Bi-planes. I would prefer to build over buying a rtf. I checked out Arizona Models but they don't have a phone number listed ( e-mail only, I hate not being able to talk to someone). Any recomendations would be appreciated. I am looking for a fairly nice looking to scale plane.

Sky Sharkster
02-19-2008, 01:51 AM
Hello Sheldo,
Depending on what size you want to build, here's a couple of my choices;
http://www.manzanolaser.com/id3.html
http://www.aerodromerc.com/
And for smaller planes, http://www.dumasestore.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=50
Hope this helps!
Ron
P.S. I have moved this thread to WW I Forum.

sheldo78
02-19-2008, 02:27 AM
Thanks, those websites are great. I think I want a Fokker Tri-plane or maybe a Neuport 17. I might have watched Fly Boys to many times;-) . I have been flying mostly aerobatic airplanes for the 2 years I have been in the hobbie and now I'm ready for a scale warbird from the first World War. Everything about these airplanes are beautiful . I have flown the GWS Tiger Moth and the E-flite Jenny. Will the performance of one of these kits be better than that of the cheap foam planes I have flown before. Thanks again.

snrkld
02-19-2008, 11:11 AM
try Cleveland model supply they have alll types of plans and most can be ordered according to scale. Not sure what the link is :roll:?

Sky Sharkster
02-19-2008, 11:33 AM
Hello Sheldo,
It's hard for me to answer your question objectively, since I prefer balsa over foam; But if you build a kit accurately and without warps, it should fly at least as well, if not better.
Also, it depends on the power system you choose for the kit; Most ARFs come with a brushed motor. If you use a brushless motor in a kit, performance will improve.
To be fair, you would have to build the same plane, same size, etc, in both balsa and foam, to see if there's any difference. My opinion is, the balsa version would fly better, but some would disagree!
To me, the advantages are, being able to choose all the materials and components, having a wider choice of designs, color schemes and (mostly) the satisfaction of having built the plane yourself.
Good Luck, whatever you chose!
Ron

Mike_Taylor
02-19-2008, 04:02 PM
I'm with Ron - Balsa is great for models. If you agree, Dave Cowell's Aero-werkes (http://www.aerowerkes.com/) has beautifully laser-cut WWI models. Most are ~18" WS with some larger ones as well. They are meant to be rubber-powered FF model, but they convert well to electric R/C, and since they are designed to free-fly, they are stabile fliers.

GreenAce92
02-19-2008, 04:46 PM
How about one of those Se5A's ive been seeing lots lately on this forum they look pretty cool.

degreen60
02-19-2008, 05:56 PM
I think built up wings and fuselage that were covered with linen on the real plane look great on the WW1 models. I think foam looks as good as sheet balsa for wood or metal parts. Planes like the Albatros I think look better with the fuselage formed from foam instead of tissue covered balsa. I think foam make the best trainers. It was easy glueing the large pieces back together until I learned to fly. Just my 2cents worth, if it is even worth that.

sheldo78
02-19-2008, 07:42 PM
Thanks,
All the info is great. See, I live at 10,000 feet altitude so power is always a concern. The 2 foam bi-planes I have had wouldn't do loops or rolls or anything. I pretty much just flew circles around my field. I would like to have the ww1 look w/ a little performance, I realize it will never be a 3d plane but a loop and a roll here and there is more fun than flying circles. Please keep the advice coming. Thanks again!!!!!!

degreen60
02-19-2008, 08:05 PM
Thanks,
All the info is great. See, I live at 10,000 feet altitude so power is always a concern. The 2 foam bi-planes I have had wouldn't do loops or rolls or anything. I pretty much just flew circles around my field. I would like to have the ww1 look w/ a little performance, I realize it will never be a 3d plane but a loop and a roll here and there is more fun than flying circles. Please keep the advice coming. Thanks again!!!!!!

Have you tried putting a more powerfull brushless motor in the planes? I changed from geared brush motors to brushless motors. It made a BIG improvement. Now if I get a model with a brush motor with it I do not even install the brush motor setup but go straight to brushless. A couple of my WW1 models(Sopwith Tripe and Camel) need weight in the nose for balance so I still use Nimh in them, no use adding extra dead weight for balance. The rest use Lipo.

firemanbill
02-19-2008, 10:23 PM
Well it's not a kit but not an RTF, This 50" ARF Jenny from Maxford is awesome! The scale detail is really nice.

http://www.maxfordusa.com/gm-jenny-50-trans.aspx

Here is my son's build thread on it.

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28334

Here is a vid we made too.

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WWI Ace
02-19-2008, 11:29 PM
Manzano Laser or Aerodrome RC make great kits!! No disappointments from either one. Get your hands busy building one!! You won't be sorry!!! Steve

degreen60
02-20-2008, 09:49 PM
Here is a Dare kit of a Jenny.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Curtiss-JN-4D-Jenny-Biplane-Kit-by-Dare-NR_W0QQitemZ180216012194QQihZ008QQcategoryZ2563QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

tjones8043
02-22-2008, 11:01 PM
www.aerodromerc.com (http://www.aerodromerc.com) has a nice sopwith camel wath a 50" wingspan. (I think someone mentioned them previously). Plans and short kit $85. I just finished mine, waiting on a good day to fly it:ws:.

http://www.wattflyer.com/photopost/data/500/camel_finished.jpg (http://www.wattflyer.com/photopost/data/500/camel_finished.jpg)
http://www.wattflyer.com/photopost/data/500/kaylea_camel.jpg (http://www.wattflyer.com/photopost/data/500/kaylea_camel.jpg)
http://www.wattflyer.com/photopost/data/500/020308_08471.jpg (http://www.wattflyer.com/photopost/data/500/020308_08471.jpg)
http://www.wattflyer.com/photopost/data/500/camel_and_trojan.jpg (http://www.wattflyer.com/photopost/data/500/camel_and_trojan.jpg)

sheldo78
02-23-2008, 02:29 AM
Nice airplane Tjones. Thank you everyone for your replies. I ordered a Nieuport 11 from Manzano yesterday. I can't wait to get it, hopefully will be here Monday. Anyway I'm sure I'll have lots of questions for everyone, until thanks for the info.