PDA

View Full Version : Need help on brushless motor kit


oct2633
05-04-2008, 05:27 PM
I wish to build a brushless outrunner motor. Haven't done this before. Need help on what kit to buy and who sells it. Any comments/suggestions would be welcome.:red:

ron_van_sommeren
05-04-2008, 07:51 PM
What plane, battery, prop etc?


Kit suppliers:
www.innov8tivedesigns.com
www.gobrushless.com
More suppliers:
www.rclineforum.de/forum/thread.php?threadid=43664

Excellent motorbuilding articles by Brian Mulder,they cover the all the basics, a must read:
http://www.southernsoaringclub.org.za/
-> Articles by SouthEasterners.
-> Electric Motors - part 1-5

Do-it-yourself motor homepages, manuals/tutorials, checks and tests in this motor builders tips and tricks thread. The checks and tests may save you from frying your controller or motor. Thread is active, bookmark it for future reference and subscribe to it:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240993 (sticky thread, at top of that subforum)

The ‘bible’
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.powercroco.de%2F&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Two instructive motor winding/assembly videos, 14 & 10Mbyte respectively (cd-rom and lrk have different winding diagrams!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHYlWKICkqc&e
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybb0Ysh0FRE

Vriendelijke groeten ;) Ron van Sommeren
• int. electric fly-in (http://home.hetnet.nl/~ronvans/), Nijmegen, the Netherlands
• brushless motor building tips & tricks (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240993)
• diy brushless motor (http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/lrk-torquemax) discussion group
• Drive Calculator (http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/D-calc/) download & discussion group

jdetray
05-06-2008, 05:11 AM
If your main goal is to get some experience in building a brushless motor, it's hard to beat the $9.99 GoBrushless GBv kit (http://www.gobrushless.com/shop/index.php?app=ccp0&ns=prodshow&ref=GBv). The instructions are good, and it's a useful motor as well. I use one in a 9 oz. foamie.

If you are hoping to use your homemade motor for a specific plane, give us the details!

- Jeff

KentuckyRanger
08-03-2008, 07:28 AM
Thanks Ron for the Links.
The first video really shows what Phasing is all about when it comes to AC Motors, and just how easy winding a Motor is.

flydiver
08-03-2008, 08:10 AM
Well, it is and it ain't. The principal isn't too hard, wind wire around a little stator. The physical part is exacting and fussy. Takes some practice. Counting winds while trying to make it neat takes concentration.

I just finished my GBv from GoBrushless (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=878258). I think that may be a very good way to start. Great customer service. I had some question and issues and they were not only resolved but Dan went out of the way to help me.

I did try re-winding a shot TowerPro before that. That was frustrating and didn't work. Not all motors are wound ABCABCABC I learned.
I think it's better to make a go of an easier and simpler motor and use that as a base to expand out from. The GBV is just that cheap ($10) and easy. The wire alone is worth it.

It is pretty exciting to spark off your own first brushless.

Angler-Hi
08-03-2008, 02:44 PM
I didn't even know you could BUILD your own brushless motor:<:!! That is SO COOL!

flydiver
08-03-2008, 04:47 PM
I didn't even know you could BUILD your own brushless motor:<:!! That is SO COOL!

It's actually a bit beyond cool. You learn a lot about motors. Once thing you rapidly come to learn is that the cheap Chinese motors, are cheap. Most of the windings on them are poor to miserable with junk wire. It's amazing they work for people as well as they do.
You also learn about trouble shooting, wire shorts, and get significantly more into the theory about KV and how/why it works. That's just to start.

Angler-Hi
08-03-2008, 07:16 PM
Sounds awesomeflydiver! I may have to get me one of those motor kits, just to learn on...just when you think you've heard it all:D.

flydiver
08-03-2008, 07:34 PM
I got interested by have a TowerPro break a winding out of the package, then another while just flying, then another.....Arggh.
Then I bought a hand wound motor from Dave North (timocharis) and realized there was a world of difference. I've bought several of his now and his review of the GBv motor (and a growing stockpile of shot motors) put me over the edge.

My first wind was ABC on a motor that should have been dLRK (you'll learn if you stay with it). This was wrong > didn't run. Back to school.....
So I got the GBv, wound it, and found the can was not well fixed on the shaft. Contacted Dan at Gobrushless, he had me send it back, got a new one promptly AND, he sent a new GBx motor kit for my 'trouble'. Pretty outstanding!. That's over the top customer service.
The GBv runs beautifully. I'm still admiring it. Need to put it in a plane. It's small so I don't currently have anything to put it in.

KentuckyRanger
08-03-2008, 07:45 PM
I know the 3 most important Keys to winding from when I was studying electronics are:
#1 neat, clean windings.
#2 keeping the Wire snug to the Stator.
#3 making sure you have the EXACT same Number of turns on all Stators.

P.S. I know that after I get into this hobby and spend $80.00+ for a Motor and it burns up, I'll be delving into Motor Winding ALLOT more...;-)

BMitchely
08-05-2008, 04:33 AM
I'm still admiring it. Need to put it in a plane. It's small so I don't currently have anything to put it in.
Hi All, just looking around here and waiting on my Daughters Telemaster to show up. I decided to take a look at some power options for it, and ran across this string. COOL, I used to build small brushed DC motors in school for a science fair project not to mention the old Lindberg kits that had you build your own 2-pole Motor. Way Cool!!!!

Anyway, for the reason I quoted you, take a look at my LaStick. I believe your motor will work very well on this airframe. Right now I have a E-Flite Park 180 Outrunner.

Here is a Pic and Plans

jdetray
08-05-2008, 04:45 AM
Here's a larger GoBrushless.com motor kit, a GBx double I built a couple of years ago. It's good for a bit over 100 watts. It's currently in a 20 oz. Cub with a 47" wingspan, using 3S lipo and a GWS 10x4.7 RS prop.

- Jeff