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Turbojoe
01-26-2006, 12:52 AM
There are a lot of very nice ARF's out there now. Nice enough that a kit builder like me is interested in getting one. Here's the thing though. I don't want a warbird, a Cub or a 3D plane. Foam is completely out of the question so GWS and Ultrafly are out. I'd prefer fiberglass/wood or all wood. I want a nice plane like I'd see at the local airport. Flaps and retracts would be a plus and a twin would be spectacular. Something in the 3 pound or under range would be perfect. Most likely a .25 glow size. I need to be able to fly it in a "park" setting so an easier to find .40 size is out.

The normal places like Tower Hobbies, Hobby Lobby, Hobby People, NSP, Esprit Model etc. etc. have already been scoured. There are alot of new companies out there making nice ARF's. Anyone have links to some that I may not have seen yet?


Joe

watt_the?!
01-26-2006, 08:35 AM
you wont be able to fly a 25 glow in a park...too big.

i hear ya mate...but foam is the only way for what you want me thinks.

Tim.

zappedalaskan
01-26-2006, 09:19 AM
Hi Joe,
Have a look at this site. They have some very nice, very scale models. They aren't giving them away, but the quality is there. http://www.airworld-usa.com/index.htm Hope this helps..
Jay

watt_the?!
01-26-2006, 09:38 AM
arent giving them away is an understatement!!

they look great though.

i wonder, anyone know of a scale geebee for electric (i.e. scale not just another geebee)....any variant is fine.

Tim.

zappedalaskan
01-26-2006, 11:50 AM
This site has geebee's. I am sure you have seen them though.
http://163.17.202.6/~rocket/index.html (http://163.17.202.6/~rocket/index.html)
Jay

Franny
01-26-2006, 07:32 PM
Hi Joe,

I just "assembled" (can't really say built) a Wattage Staggerwing and I really like it! It is 400 size and I think it flies really well and looks a bit scale in the air. The ARF is balsa built up and covered with a monocote-ish covering - red. It needed a bit if shrinking, and I had to re-build the motor mount a bit to accommodate my E-Flight 400 outrunner, but all in all lots of fun. The fuse isn't foam, but it isn't balsa... Its vacuum formed plastic I think with ply/birch stiffeners. It might be a bit small for your needs, but it zips right along at 2/3 throttle on a 3S Li-poly pack. Great fun and not too expensive. I think it comes in two flavors: with our without motor (400 brushed)

Just a thought,

Franny

rcers
01-26-2006, 07:38 PM
TurboJoe - stick around Hyperion is planning some General Aviation ships in that size.

There is this one, touted as 3d but you can tell it will fly "sport" very very well.

http://www.extremeflightrc.com/prod...ml/45EExtra.htm (http://www.extremeflightrc.com/production/html/45EExtra.htm)


Specs:

Wingspan: 45 inches

Length: 42.5 inches

Wing Area: 400 sq. inches

Weight: 30-33 oz.

Power: Extreme Flight Torque 2818/900 Motor

Other options (I don't have one...)

Yellow Aircraft makes some nice .30 size ships...
http://www.yellowaircraftplanes.com/sport.html

And this for a nice ARF twin:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJPH0&P=ML

Many of these won't fly in the typical "park" however.

Mike

zappedalaskan
01-26-2006, 07:38 PM
Hi Franny,
I seen the picture of that model in the gallery. It looks very nice!
Take care,
Jay

zappedalaskan
01-26-2006, 07:42 PM
rcers,
That is a sweet looking plane and the $299.00 super combo looks like a great deal.
Jay

Turbojoe
01-27-2006, 12:16 AM
TurboJoe - stick around Hyperion is planning some General Aviation ships in that size.

There is this one, touted as 3d but you can tell it will fly "sport" very very well.

http://www.extremeflightrc.com/prod...ml/45EExtra.htm (http://www.extremeflightrc.com/production/html/45EExtra.htm)


Specs:

Wingspan: 45 inches

Length: 42.5 inches

Wing Area: 400 sq. inches

Weight: 30-33 oz.

Power: Extreme Flight Torque 2818/900 Motor

Other options (I don't have one...)

Yellow Aircraft makes some nice .30 size ships...
http://www.yellowaircraftplanes.com/sport.html

And this for a nice ARF twin:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJPH0&P=ML

Many of these won't fly in the typical "park" however.

Mike

Mike,

That's good news as Hyperion is one of the companies I'm most impressed with right now. The planes they have now are great but I just have no interest in the 3D style aircraft. Everybody and their brother makes a Cap/Extra/Katana/Sukhoi. They're just not my cup of tea. If Hyperion gets into the GA market I'll be making a pre-order that's for sure.
I could do some bashing on the kits I have. I've got a Herr Cherokee kit that I could easily turn into a Comanche twin I guess. I just got a Herr AT-6 Texan and I have a Herr Cub that's ready to cover that I could modify with flaps. I'm just in a building "funk" and don't want to mess with it right now. Like I said, I'm being picky. Okay...anal. :) I now want the instant gratification of a really nice looking GA ARF. I know I'll probably have to wait 6 months to a year though.:(

As far as "park" size goes I could easily fly a .60 size glow ship at our normal field. It's that big. I do want to stay with a smaller size though as my P.T. Cruiser gets pretty cramped when I throw a bunch of planes and the heli in there.


Joe

Nitro Blast
02-01-2006, 08:54 PM
Check my thread:

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4210

I have the Cap, the Sukhoi, and I just got the Bigger Mustang.

Best quality in a 98% arf I have seen.

watt_the?!
02-01-2006, 09:13 PM
Check my thread:

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4210

I have the Cap, the Sukhoi, and I just got the Bigger Mustang.

Best quality in a 98% arf I have seen.


oh dude...i had the sukhoi and wasnt impressed with the canopy attachment (what attachment), the wing fixing method, warped ailerons with out of alignment hinge positions pre cut for me, non scale appearance, wood horns with horrible backing plates that protrude into the top surfaces and more.

i was expecting it to be better thats for sure.

a friend of mine had the cap and reported the same or similar issues...we both had wings part with fuses....

Tim

Nitro Blast
02-01-2006, 09:33 PM
I wasent bothered by the control hardware, and thought it was fitting for the amount of load. It was nice that the holes were there for it and I only needed CA to attach them. If you look in my pictures, you dont see the horn 'caps' that you describe. A little white paint and they dissapear at 2 ft.

My satisfaction comes from the price, the fit and the performance. I had nothing warped, crooked or bent. I had minimal covering tightening to do, and overall I thought it was above par compared to many other E-Arfs

rcers
02-01-2006, 09:40 PM
oh dude...i had the sukhoi and wasnt impressed with the canopy attachment (what attachment), the wing fixing method, warped ailerons with out of alignment hinge positions pre cut for me, non scale appearance, wood horns with horrible backing plates that protrude into the top surfaces and more.

i was expecting it to be better thats for sure.

a friend of mine had the cap and reported the same or similar issues...we both had wings part with fuses....

Tim

I am surprised Tim. Mine was spot on....alignment was the best of any ARF I have ever done. Hinges were perfect and nothing was mis-aligned. The only complaint on fit was the former was a tad too tall for the canopy attachment. Certainly no biggie.

The canopy attachment was weak - here is what I did to mine:
http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4979

So one small screw and one magnet has me done in a hurry. Hyperion is working on a better method for the next run, they liked my modification.

I too didn't like the wood horns, so I used the Dubro mini's. They worked great.

The plane flies wonderfully.

You guys will love what is comming in the next months from them too.

Mike

Turbojoe
02-01-2006, 10:27 PM
I was sooooo close to buying the Hyperion Mustang at the Arizona Electric Festival this weekend. It's gorgeous! The aluminum retracts are very nice too. If it had flaps I would have had to grab it. I just didn't want a warbird. Compared to other ARFs the $200.00 price tag seemed a little steep too. I'll happily pay that much for the right plane though.

Hey Mike, give me a hint at what's coming. I'll keep it a secret. ;)


Joe

watt_the?!
02-01-2006, 10:28 PM
here's mine...

maybe we both got duds?

they are made by OK models BTW.

Turbojoe
02-01-2006, 11:55 PM
they are made by OK models BTW.

Of 1980's Hobby People Pilot brand kits fame? I loved their kits and had several back then. They were gawd awful heavy and would never have flown with electric without MAJOR work. They looked great though. I had a P-39 that I really miss.


Joe

Nitro Blast
02-01-2006, 11:59 PM
Compared to other ARFs the $200.00 price tag seemed a little steep too. I'll happily pay that much for the right plane though. Joe
$200 isnt bad for that beauty of a Mustang with retracts... but it isnt what I paid ;) pm me for more if you like.

Heres MY Sukhoi, just finished it, will maiden her Saturday.
Balanced without any weights, fit like a glove and all the trims were spot on.

Try to find the 'ugly' control horns, IMO it isnt any different than some plastic part on the control surface.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8402/dsc038014yq.jpg


http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/2420/dsc038036hj.jpg

I still have the wings in a 'removeable' setup, I may go ahead and epoxy them in since transportation assembled is not a problem, does anyone have a preferrence on that?

rcers
02-02-2006, 02:34 PM
Nitro - I didn't glue my wings. I just want the option of removal. If you ever have a fix or something it is much easier with the wings off.

The Blue is beautiful as well. An amazing aircraft!

Mike

bassmanh
02-02-2006, 07:13 PM
turbojoe,
check out this islander twin electric very nice loking and the price isnt to bad either. i have a dymond AT-6 texan that flies very well , and now im going to buy the P-38 lightning they have. both planes(islander and P-38) fly on 400's or 480's . cant wait untill i can get the P-38 ;)

bassman


link= http://www.rc-dymond.com/electric/specialty/60611islander.htm

Rugar
02-02-2006, 07:58 PM
turbojoe,
check out this islander twin electric very nice loking and the price isnt to bad either. i have a dymond AT-6 texan that flies very well , and now im going to buy the P-38 lightning they have. both planes(islander and P-38) fly on 400's or 480's . cant wait untill i can get the P-38 ;)

bassman


link= www.rc-dymond.com/electric/specialty/60611islander.htm (http://www.rc-dymond.com/electric/specialty/60611islander.htm)

edit: the dang link wont work !!!! so try rc-dymond.com then go to specialty E airplanes towards the bottom ot the page.
This one?
http://www.rc-dymond.com/Electric/Specialty/60611Islander.htm

bassmanh
02-02-2006, 10:19 PM
rugar,

thanks, i see after i posted and tried it i missed the http:// LOL. oh well have to pay more attention next time ;)

bassman

Turbojoe
02-02-2006, 11:22 PM
Now keep in mind I'm picky (anal). I just don't find the Islander attractive other than the fact that it's a twin.
Only a few "warbirds" can pique my interest. The T-34, P-38 and to a milder extent the P-51. Someone posted about the Raiden-Tech (http://www.raidentech.com/pnigararecor.html) P-38 in another thread. It looks pretty darn nice for $135.00. The only problem is the 4 pound weight. :eek: It must have a glide ratio like a set of car keys.


Joe

bassmanh
02-03-2006, 12:02 AM
joe,

i was just on the raiden tech site looking at there ov-10 bronco nice looking plane but like you said a bit heavy at 4.4 lbs otherwise i like it alot.

also if your looking at the P-38 dymond has one with a 56 inch WS that weighs in at 2 3/4 to 3lbs. just got off the phone with them about it. they have 2 left i think he said. one white and cant remember what the other was. http://www.rc-dymond.com although a bit pricey at $279.00.

bassman

Turbojoe
02-03-2006, 12:37 AM
Yeah, I like the OV-10 a lot too. I wish it weighed about half what it does though. E*Star (http://www.estarmodels.com/) models has a very nice OV-10 kit but the price is very hard to get around at $179.00! :eek::eek: That's the price of a nice ARF now.
Raiden-Tech has a lot of nice planes. The weight is a problem for electric flight but it's obvious they were originally designed for the rigors of glow flight. Nice stuff though. I'm watching Hyperion closely too.

Anyone else not getting e-mail notifications of new posts from WattFlyer? I haven't gotten any for days. I have to come and check to see what is nes. I checked my user CP and everything seems to be in order.


Joe

Turbojoe
02-03-2006, 12:39 AM
You guys will love what is comming in the next months from them too.
Mike

Still waiting Mike. Spill your guts dude! What's on the horizon?


Joe

Nitro Blast
02-06-2006, 07:34 PM
turbojoe,
check out this islander twin electric very nice loking and the price isnt to bad either.

bassman


I didnt think that islander looked much better than a cheap styro cooler. The foam is big cell stuff and I think needs to be quite worked and covered to actually look nice. The photo on Dymond's site does look nice.


The Hyperion stuff looks amazingly attractive right out of the box.

rcers
02-06-2006, 07:46 PM
Still waiting Mike. Spill your guts dude! What's on the horizon?


Joe

You know Joe I would love to say, but I feel much more comfy with Hyperion announcing their own stuff!

Too many times the planned planes don't see the light of day. But .... So far with Hyperion they are really gaining a significant presence and have some great models comming.

The good news about me keeping my mouth shut is I don't really know about much before they are publicly announced.

That was very much the case with the Hyperion Warbirds that we now know about.

With that said I know one of the owners of Hyperion and he is a modeler he asks what people want to see, and he delivers!

The only bad news is it does take a while to get a model from "O that would be cool" to shipping from vendors.

Hmmmmmmmmmm...
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4925410&postcount=215
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4933659&postcount=236
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4925386&postcount=214

Mike

Turbojoe
02-06-2006, 11:25 PM
Mike. Thanks for nuthin' dude! :D Seriously though. The T-34 being in the works is what I needed to hear. That will make me a very happy puppy and I guess I'll have to wait for it. If it's as nice as the Mustang I saw last weekend then I'll be grabbing one as soon as they are released. I just love trike geared planes.
As far as the Cessna 182 goes it looks good but I already have the Wattage C-182 that I'm in the process of modifying with flaps. I gotta get around to finishing that thing soon.:rolleyes:


Joe

rcers
02-07-2006, 02:37 PM
Thanks for nuthin' dude!

:D I just really like the Hayate. So many p51's so few Japanese planes.

At any rate - I think within the next 6-8 months you will be quite impressed with Hyperions announcements!

I really think they will be a pretty major e-ARF market player.

If they maintain the quality of the ARF's they have out now, we are in great shape.

Mike

Turbojoe
02-11-2006, 03:00 AM
Thanks Mike. I'll keep my eyes open. I got kind of heli obsessed all of a sudden anyway. Maybe by the time Hyperion has something new I'll be over that and be airplane obsessed again. I'd still grab a T-34 or a nice scale twin in a heartbeat though!

Joe

Sean Marshall
02-11-2006, 04:07 AM
Well There Is Horizonhobby.com Theres Rcuniverse.com And If You Go To Google.com You Can Find Almost Any Thing

Turbojoe
02-19-2006, 02:53 PM
Well There Is Horizonhobby.com Theres Rcuniverse.com And If You Go To Google.com You Can Find Almost Any Thing

Trust me, I've done LOT'S of searching. What I'm looking for doesn't seem to exist yet. On any website.......


Joe

jonnyjetprop
02-21-2006, 04:13 PM
http://www.seattlemw.com/l40.html

John

Greg Lewis
02-24-2006, 01:21 PM
Have you seen the New (I.C.) twin by Seagull Models. Piper twin Look-a- like

Greg Lewis
02-24-2006, 01:25 PM
rcers, I need a Cessna for static display. I was looking at the World Models or Wattage. This one looks like it got both of those beat.

crxmanpat
02-28-2006, 04:35 AM
http://www.seattlemw.com/l40.html

John
Wow, I really like that Burt Rutan Quickie 380 Park. I will have to put that one on my "wish list".

Pat