Good second plane. (After Super-cub).

[RCBlonde]

Hello, Im new to this website and I was just wondering about a second plane I should get. I own a Hobby Zone Super-cub and I flew the heck out of it within the past 4 years. It went through little abuse, even my first flight was rather gentle. It only once it crashed , nose first, during a stall, and I had to change the fuselage. Even though the Super-cub is a very exciting plane, especially with the X-port parachute stuff it got almost boring:sad:. I totally mastered it, once I went to a tiny park with trees everywhere and I maneuvered it around them with ease. I even flew circles around my friends. A funny moment was when I flew it so close to me that the plane's wing clipped the transmitters antenna. All of this was fun, but not enough fun, especially control and power wise. :{ I considered making ailerons, but then again it would be better to get a new plane. So now I have to make a choice and thats were I need help! Im not to rich:sad: ,but if the plane is really worth it then I guess its time to splurge! I was thinking about getting a Hobby-Lobby Art-tech Corsair or Mustang. They seem to look and have a good, not to big, not to small size and they are all rtf. Another plane was the Park-zone T-28 Trojan. It seems to be better quality than the Art-Tech ones and I heard very nice reviews. A one I really like is the E-fliterc T-34 Mentor
ePTS, but I'm not sure if it I can handle it to well. (I had experience with a Hobbico Elecristar and it went pretty well!) Im focusing only on 4-ch planes and I think rtf are better than arf for me, but i was also considering the Great Planes p-47. In terms of airspace I have a 4-mi. by 2-mi. field and thats were I do most of my flying. I also have a club with people who could help me, but its far up north.
Sorry for the long post and please post any recommendations!
Thank-you!

[CHELLIE]

Hi RCBlond :ws: and Welcome to Wattflyers, The t-28 or the t-34 will be a great 2nd plane, the mustang or the corsair are difficult to fly, and would be a good 4th or 5th plane after you have more stick time in, hope that helps, Chellie

[CHELLIE]

the p-47 would make a great 3rd plane :)

[Leo L]

Hi RCBlonde,

Get the ParkZone T-28 Trojan. Its to aileron trainers what the Supercub is to beginners: simply the best plane that you can buy. The electronics aren't the best, so if you can afford it, get the PNP version and buy your own transmitter/receiver. If your budget is fairly tight, get the PZ Corsair's radio. Its a basic Spectrum radio that you can get for a very good price. But whether you get your own radio or use the stock PZ radio, definitely get the Trojan. Do a search and you will find that everyone raves over this plane.

If for some reason you don't like the Trojan, then consider the Multiplex Minimag or the GWS E-starter. They are not as good as the Trojan, but they are a close second. As Chellie said correctly, the Corsair and Mustang are too difficult for you to consider at this time.

[Rolling Thunder]

Generally a 4 ch high wing trainer is normally your 2nd plane.But everybody thats flown a trojan says its so stable it flies like a high winger.
heres my trainer it flies great-http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/123506.asp

[cjg]

T-28 was my second plane after learning on the supercub. It is a great choice.

[quadracer111]

The trojan for sure!

[III Bones Air Force]

I went from the SC to a foamy (NASTY) which was my first build. It is a 4 Ch. plane that I built at a total cost of about $100. Several crashes later, and motor replacements, and tape and glue and other modifications (It does not look anything like it did when I first built it). It still however flys. It was a great, cheap way to move on from the Super Cub. A freind of mine moved from the SC to the T-28 and he loves how relatively easy it is to fly given that it is a low winger.

Now I just finished building my 400 Watt Lancair from Great Plaines (have not flown it yet) Temps are really NASTY around here (Minnesota) and I just put together a PNP PZ F4U Corsair have not flown yet for the same reason. Now I know what Sound Garden meant when they sang "I am looking California and feeling Minnesota...oh yeah...." Any way the short advice go with the T-28 or if you want the joy of seeing something you built fly...and crash..and fly again...go with a foamy (the Nasty). PEACE

[RCBlonde]

Thanks for all the useful feedback! I really consider getting the trojan, heard a lot of nice stuff about before these posts too. It seems to fly well in the videos I saw. I also am wondering if the T-34 is OK, it seems to be a larger version of the trojan with the Dxi 6-ch radio, li-poly batt with charger, Flaps, NACA droops, Balsa construction and larger wing area (the price pisses me off). Im not sure if the Dxi really matters though, I have plenty of hi-quality computer Futaba radios. The flaps might be really useful though. Btw: I have experience with a PZ Focke Wolf and with a Hobbico Electristar so I don't know if that could help.

[quadracer111]

Trojan is your best bet! Or the corsair is suppose to be great too! http://parkzone.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=PKZ4600

[Leo L]

I forgot to ask if you plan to do ground take-offs or hand launches. The T-28 is superb at ground take-offs and landing gear landings. Once in the air, the Trojan and the PZ Corsair fly very similarly, so if you plan on only doing handlaunches and will use the skids instead of the landing gear, you may as well go for the Corsair. But if you plan on using the landing gear, get the Trojan. By the way, both the Trojan and the Corsair have better performance, yet are easier to fly, than the PZ Focke Wolf. I would stay away from balsa planes until you are very confident in your flying skills, unless your preference is building/repairing rather than flying.

[dldeano]

If I do my taxes right and have a few extra dollars when done, I may be flying (hopefully not crashing) a 4ch sooner than I expected!!

My son put 2 battery packs through the Cub, and all that I got to do was take off, hand him the Tx, and then land it for him; so I guess I need my own anyway :tc:.

My SC and I flew with both a T-28 and a Corsair last weekend; the Corsair looks really good in the air...but as a noob ground handling is important and the Trojan seems to be the winner there.

Both were much faster and better in the wind than my SC...as I was floating around, they were rolling, diving, etc

[RCBlonde]

Looks like the Trojan is mine! I still have a few questions on the Eflite T-34 though... is the price worth it? do the flaps, droops, dxi radio, bendy gear, and bendy propeller make the plane perfect for a begginer with some experience? It looks alot much like the t-28, but the shiny UltraCote makes the plane seem more scale-ish.
My experience with other 3-ch parkflyers with ailerons such as the PZ Focke Wolf were good, but they seemed to be fairly easy and a little boring, even compared to my Cub, so My Aileron experience was fairly good (no crashes). The Large .40 Hobbico Electristar aslo was easy and fun for me when I tried it out in my giant park with no help, so thats my balsa plane experience.
BTW: I plan on flying with landing gear and landing gear only on my planes, I never had a hand-launched takeoff, not even with the Cub.
Thanks!

[AEAJR]

I think you have received some really good recommendations. The Trojan seems to get nothing but rave reviews.

I will ask some different questions just to open up your thoughts a bit.

You never provided a budget, a TOTAL budget.

If you are committed, long term, then you may which to invest in a better radio system than what comes with the RTFs. They work fine, but let's face it, their main feature is that they are cheap.

Something like a Spektrum Dx6i would make a great step into a hobby grade radio. And there are more an more planes coming out that are PNP, RR and bind and fly.

Have you considered building a wood kit? www.mountainmodels.com (http://www.mountainmodels.com) has a very wide selection of excellent kits. I would recommend the SmoothE with the sport wing, or get it with both wings.

What do the guys at the club fly? What do they suggest?

Another plane to consider might be the Apprentice. 4 channel, spektrum radio. 2.4 GHz freedom from channel conflict.

Itis much larger and heavier than the cub, so it should handle wind better. and more powerful than the cub. I have not flown it but I read very good reports.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/TechnicalSpecs.aspx?ProdID=EFL2725


There are so many good options.

[RCBlonde]

AEAJR, it does look like the Trojan is the one, especially because of the reviews. The budget thing is... lets just say if a plane is worth it and it matches my needs its mine lol. Im trying to keep it a plane a year, if I have interests in a particular plane. Anything over $300 may be a bit too much, unless its "Da Bomb" or something.
The Kits look nice, but I'm sorta lazy to build stuff, Im more of a RTF person.

I also bumped into the Parkzone F4U Corsair. It seems to have all the specs of the T-28, but the 3-blade prop, wheel pants, and the corsair itself look very nice (a favorite of mine). The E-flite ESC looks like its better quality than the one on the Trojan and the Spektrum Radio might be nice, especiually because its compatible with many BNFs. But is the $270.00 price tag worth it? Is it harder to fly? I've heard that the the Trojan is more faster though... A review I read said that the Corsair is a great second plane. I need to choose quickly because of a day I might need to have one of the planes by.
Thanks!

[AEAJR]

I can't tell you what is right for you, but overall, I don't think you can make a mistake with the Trojan. It is certainly a safe choice.

Of couse you can go for a DX7 as an investment toward the future. Then get a reciever ready, PNP or bind and fly plane. It is a bigger investment but it opens up options that you don't have in the RTF world.

In the end it is all about fun.

[ministeve2003]

buy a dx6i or dx7 and convert your supercub to ailerons.... then when you are done with that, you'll have a great tx and rx that you can use on alot more options.... and you'll have almost a completely new plane (it will fly so much better you'll think it was a new plane...)

here's an old video of mine, so you can get a better idea of how it will fly... mine was brushless.... but I was running it with a heavy battery at the time...it will be similar with lighter lipo on stock brushed motor....
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2234476037653754293&ei=FpmUSZ-dOp2wqAOPjMjGDA&q=hobbyzone+super+cub+ailerons&hl= en

electronics setup

hxt900 servos... $3.50 each - you'll need a total of 4
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=662&Product_Name=HXT900_ 9g_/_1.6kg_/_.12sec_Micro_Servo

Eagle 30amp brushed esc $8
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6468&Product_Name=Eagle_ 30A_BRUSHED_ESC

good lipo balance charger - $38
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7028&Product_Name=Turnig y_Accucel-6_50W_5A_Balancer/Charger[/URL]

1300 3cell lipo batterys - $12
[URL]http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6308&Product_Name=ZIPPY_ Flightmax_1300mAh_3S1P_20C (http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6468&Product_Name=Eagle_ 30A_BRUSHED_ESC)

worst case, you can buy another wing to do the mod on... $20.... it really is very easy....


SK

[Bill Linske]

RCBlonde,

No one has mentioned the Multiplex products such as the MiniMag or the Mentor. I own both, although I'm just now building the Mentor. I still have the Magister, of which the Mentor is the next generation. All fly very well and are great aileron trainers. I'm biased toward the Multiplex products because of their "German" engineering and survivability. I offer this as an alternative to the above recommendations, which are all excellent. However, the more you can choose from the better the results. I've started with the EasyStar and graduated to the MM. I truly enjoyed flying both, but when the ES became mundane, I loved the speed and maneuverability of the MM.

[RCBlonde]

I thought about converting the Cub to Ailerons, but I figured a brushless engine and an ESC would be needed, and a good radio like the spektrum dxi ones. That what total up to around $200.00 or more. I think it would be a better choice to get a different plane, plus my Supercub engine would just randomly stop working so I didn't even look into it, just think another plane would be better.
The Multiplex planes look nice, but I was thinking of a scale and low-winged plane thats RTF cuz im to lazy to build :D lol. Im still wondering if the Corsair with spektrum radio is the beter than the T-28, but im pretty sure I can't make a wrong choice by getting the T-28 so I need help with making a choice.
Thanks!

[benovisoff]

get the t-28. I love it. It is the best out of the 9 planes I have owned.

[RCBlonde]

T-28 huh? Yea this plane sure looks like its something... but again the HZ corsair are almost the same thing...'cept the dx5e radio which is a plus and the Prop (im not too crazy bout the prop). But is the plane Ok as a tail-wheel plane? Will it nose over cosntantly if its not a perfect landing? And are take-offs OK? My first plane was a Tail-wheel Cub and I rarely nose over. Im also interested in adding flaps and retracts to one of these planes. Will they be to much for the corsair to handle cuz I heard its not TOO powerfull with the 3-blade prop that im planning on using and the gear with the gear door. I know the 3-section flaps might be challenging to make for the Corsair so... am I just going too far?
srry 4 all the ques lol
Thanks!

[ministeve2003]

I thought about converting the Cub to Ailerons, but I figured a brushless engine and an ESC would be needed, and a good radio like the spektrum dxi ones. That what total up to around $200.00 or more. I think it would be a better choice to get a different plane, plus my Supercub engine would just randomly stop working so I didn't even look into it, just think another plane would be better.
The Multiplex planes look nice, but I was thinking of a scale and low-winged plane thats RTF cuz im to lazy to build :D lol. Im still wondering if the Corsair with spektrum radio is the beter than the T-28, but im pretty sure I can't make a wrong choice by getting the T-28 so I need help with making a choice.
Thanks!


you won't need to change out the motor, just the esc, and servos.... which is about $22.... you could even still run the old battery's you already have....

remember a t28 (ready to fly) is around $250.... even the PNP version is $170, and you'l still need a radio+RX plus a battery and charger for that one....

if cost is a major concern (it usually is... try finding a used dx6i or dx7)

a used dx6i/dx7 and upgrades for your cub could be less than the t28 rtf... plus you'll end up with a great radio... and and a great aileron plane... your biggest problem in the future is you will eventually need a good radio... and buying it now will allow you alot more inexpensive options in the future... I know its hard to tell yourself to buy it now, but its worth the investment...

SK

[benovisoff]

flaps too far, you dont need them.
I always nose over on tail draggers.
get the t-28, its more stable, and is well balanced on the tri gear, it cant go over.
prop doesnt matter.
when you want just a little more oomph, put an 11X7 on there, it pulls about 21 amps which is way below the 30 amp esc limit and the 25 amp motor limit.
Dont do mods yet, get a feel for it.
number of blades is really no difference.
try not to do all that stuff to it, maybe later on add just flaps, I know lots of people usuall do that.
It doesn't really need them, it is fine, just dont land on VERY smooth paved surfaces, even smoother than the sidewalk, street is okay, because its inertia will just keep it going until it hits the nearest pole :)
the nose gear is easier to control because it is bigger than any tail wheel, and the little tail wheel will have no effect on grass.

[Timcat26]

I thought about converting the Cub to Ailerons, but I figured a brushless engine and an ESC would be needed, and a good radio like the spektrum dxi ones. That what total up to around $200.00 or more. I think it would be a better choice to get a different plane, plus my Supercub engine would just randomly stop working so I didn't even look into it, just think another plane would be better.
The Multiplex planes look nice, but I was thinking of a scale and low-winged plane thats RTF cuz im to lazy to build :D lol. Im still wondering if the Corsair with spektrum radio is the beter than the T-28, but im pretty sure I can't make a wrong choice by getting the T-28 so I need help with making a choice.
Thanks!


Just a suggestion, never ever use yellow text on a white background.

[Leo L]

RCBlonde,

Since you are a member of the MAAW, I would think that some of the members of your club would have the Corsair and the Trojan, so that you could actually see how they fly.

If you set the Corsair up with the 2 blade prop, the Corsair and the Trojan fly very similarly. Their big difference is in the taking off and landing. If you plan to use the skids and do only hand launches and belly-flop landings, then you can get either one. However, if you plan to use the landing gear for your take-offs and landings, then the Trojan is by far the better choice. You can land the Trojan on pavement, dirt or short grass. The Corsair MUST be landed on pavement or very smooth dirt. Rough dirt or grass flips it right over.

The 3-blade props look really cool, but they require considerably more power than the 2-blade. You get better performance AND longer flight times if you use the 2-blade prop.

[benovisoff]

Alot of people say that "threee blade has more power", "no, two blade does", which draws more power etc. I myself have never noticed a difference in amp draw or power or anything. You cant even tell if its two or three bladed in the air, its just flying.

[quadracer111]

The 3 prop would draw more amps and fly a bit slower, the 2 blade is for more performance, the manual even says that. So can you take the landing gear off of a corsair and belly flop it?

[benovisoff]

pshh. manuals!? what are those? who needs them. I never use them, they will just confuse me with chinese-english. Its like they have never heard over, subject, verb, direct object, indirect object, prepositional phrase

[RCBlonde]

Thanks for all the advice! I actually gave the Super cub 1 aileron, I think that would do it... Its sorta windy ,but I gave it a try. It flies better= more maneuverable and it handles the wind better, but my Engine just stops working... :sad: I tried another battery pack, but still most of the time I dead-stick after 30-60-sec so I think another plane would be better. After all my Cub is almost 4 years old. And yeah, I figured the Trojan would be better for take-offs and landings. I normally fly my Cub at my giant park. It has short-grass and dirt, but my Cub never nosed over. But the Corsair has a small gear which probably
means: *thump, thump, flip*! And I like the gear on, i'll keep my planes without the skids. I favor realistic landings. And about my colored text, I just tried to make it look more President Days-ish. Not that Im a Die Hard Patriot lol.
But still I haven't made a decision between the F4U or T-28, both look so nice and have there own special thing...I'm sounding like a little girl...
Thanks!

[quadracer111]

pshh. manuals!? what are those? who needs them. I never use them, they will just confuse me with chinese-english. Its like they have never heard over, subject, verb, direct object, indirect object, prepositional phrase
I was actually impressed with parkzones manuals. There decent...

[Leo L]

The PZ Corsair comes with skids that you can mount in place of the landing gear. I always do ground take-offs so I threw the skids out. Therefore, i can't say how good they are. Maybe someone else can chime in.

As far as 3-blade props vs. 2-blade, i was skeptical until I did a direct comparison. i had a Thunder Tiger Rare Bear which came with a 3-blade prop. When I replaced it with a comparable (as best as I could tell) 2-blade prop, I got 90 more seconds on my flights and yet the plane flew faster and climbed better. Apparently the reason is that the 3-blade prop starts to create cavitation, which means that it creates a turbulent envelope of air around it rather than moving the air past it. The bigger the prop the less this is likely to occur. You will notice a considerable difference with a small parkflyer, one that weighs around 16oz. As the plane gets bigger, the less difference you will notice.

[benovisoff]

I was actually impressed with parkzones manuals. There decent...
Well of course the big dogs like PZ and eflite are okay, but when you get cheap stuff like nitroplanes and others, it can get bad.
I love the tri gear on the t-28. The gear can take all of the bouncy and rough landings you can throw at it. The t-28 is a more stable, in my opinion, I would preffer the t-28 over the corsair any day. Mine cam perfectly setup and trimmed right out of the box. No adjustments needed at all, and flew straight and steady.

[quadracer111]

Well of course the big dogs like PZ and eflite are okay, but when you get cheap stuff like nitroplanes and others, it can get bad.
I love the tri gear on the t-28. The gear can take all of the bouncy and rough landings you can throw at it. The t-28 is a more stable, in my opinion, I would preffer the t-28 over the corsair any day. Mine cam perfectly setup and trimmed right out of the box. No adjustments needed at all, and flew straight and steady.
I agree with the cheap planes, chinglish :Q
I flew a bit of helis last year and could hover no problem on a squirrely little fixed pitch single rotor heli, i can fly coax's in my living room with ease, hover all orientations ect. I wanted to get into planes and since its winter here and -40c outside i bought a vapor for the living room, i can do loops, and some inverter flight in our living room. I fly on g4 and do great, make the plane go where i want do whatever i want. The vapor is too easy. Im going to be getting a plane for summer time and do not know what to get, a hobbyzone supercub or something like a t-28 or corsair. Sorry for being a thread highjack but i just wanted to get this out there. ;-)

[benovisoff]

you can do loops and inverted with a vapor? blasphemey. how could this be?

[quadracer111]

you can do loops and inverted with a vapor? blasphemey. how could this be?
Loops, give er full throttle and full elevator, i have also moved the control horns to the closest hole. Inverted, take it high enough full throttle and full elevator but half way through hold it, she will go inverted for a bit. Do you suggest a start on something like a trojan or corsair? Or start with a super cub?

[benovisoff]

supercub-trojan. But if you have sim time under your belt, go straight to t-28

[quadracer111]

I have realflight g4 and its very easy to fly planes, just relaxing. I know that real life is different because of the planes set up ect, but orientation, the whole right is left left is right deal i have down... I have like 50hrs of sim time under. Flying planes and helis with ease. I can land good too. I think i want to go for a corsair because it comes with a better radio. Also the skids are good because i would be landing in fairly medium grass.

[stevecooper]

Loops, give er full throttle and full elevator, i have also moved the control horns to the closest hole. Inverted, take it high enough full throttle and full elevator but half way through hold it, she will go inverted for a bit. Do you suggest a start on something like a trojan or corsair? Or start with a super cub?
You can fly a fully cambered wing upside down, I fly whole lipo's out upside down with my Slow Stick with a stock wing all the time, Your do'in a vapor that way,, I'm impressed!! good fly'in QuadBub! steve bub, steve

[benovisoff]

you could be ready. But I put almost 500 hours of real outdoor flyin' under my belt, but then again I mastered the t-28 out ofthe box. You should do fine, little stick movents.

[quadracer111]

Thanks guys!! Nice planes you guys have there bub!! Think im going to dive into a corsair and do some more sim time!

[benovisoff]

ok.

[quadracer111]

Going to fly a pack through my vapor, im bored

[benovisoff]

lucky duck. I need an indoor micro thing for rainy days. I would think that the mcx is easier to fit in smallr places

[quadracer111]

Yea, i have one too, this is good for our living room, i highly suggest the vapor, if you trim elevator all the way down and move the battery all the way back it will fly slooow!
Its very fun in a gym too!

[benovisoff]

doesnt it already fly too slow. I need an eflite 150 on the vapor and a 2 cell lipo 320mah. literally making rocket paper

[quadracer111]

ugg... Just broke a vertical cf rod that holds the wing on when i was flying inverted in my living room, i should keep the inverted for the gym and only do loops in the living room, the fix? Dab of CA. I hit the couch btw :D

[quadracer111]

doesnt it already fly too slow. I need an eflite 150 on the vapor and a 2 cell lipo 320mah. literally making rocket paper
Nope! Doest fly too slow! It can really scoot if you open er up and let er go in a straight line. You can almost hover it if you want :D A 2s lipo would weight it down so much it wouldnt be worth it. I use some of my blade mcx batteries in it and flights last 25 mins in a gym and living room.
Nope, it would be lighter than rocket paper. It would be rocket p.e.t film :D

[benovisoff]

sweet. are the micro cessnas better or worse?

[quadracer111]

sweet. are the micro cessnas better or worse?
They would be better for a gym but if you want to fly in your living room at all get a vapor

[benovisoff]

kool. I will look into that or mcx

[ministeve2003]

I have the micro cessna which I definately wouldn't want to try in my livingroom although I have flown it in prob 9x9' before... and I have flown the vapor in a 12x20 living room and also outdoors... I would say the vapor is a much better plane than the micro cessna....

the MCX and the Walkera 5g6 are great little micro heli's for indoor flying... they are about the same in quailty... Walkera being slightly better, and the MCX being nicer because it binds to spectrum....

SK

[benovisoff]

cool. I want a vapor now

[RCBlonde]

Um k I know this thread should be about a second plane, but speaking of indoor flight I have the 2 ch Megatech Avion. Its ok but its crapy quality and the 2 ch stuff is way to limited for me.
Anyway bout the Corsair being a first plane... Im not sure how good of an idea that is... You should go with the Cub, you will be Amazed at how easy it is to fly it, but if you think you can handle it with your G4 skills than i dunno.
Btw I think I made my decision and Im gonna get the T-28. If im wrong tell me now.
Thanks!

[benovisoff]

good choice. you make me proud

[ministeve2003]

just spend 40+ hours on the sim and a couple of times retrim your sim to the wrong settings so you'll know what to expect if its out of wack for your maiden... and you'll prob do fine... let us know the outcome...

SK

[quadracer111]

Um k I know this thread should be about a second plane, but speaking of indoor flight I have the 2 ch Megatech Avion. Its ok but its crapy quality and the 2 ch stuff is way to limited for me.
Anyway bout the Corsair being a first plane... Im not sure how good of an idea that is... You should go with the Cub, you will be Amazed at how easy it is to fly it, but if you think you can handle it with your G4 skills than i dunno.
Btw I think I made my decision and Im gonna get the T-28. If im wrong tell me now.
Thanks!
Thats exactly what im worried about! Im young and money is limited!

[RCBlonde]

K... looks like the Trojan is the final answer... Ill get a 3-blade prop for lazy sunday flying and scale looks, I'll getta LED lighting system, and now I just have to swallow my Chinese food and buy it... Btw duz anyone know of any coupon codes for places were I can order the plane, and what's the best place to buy it?
quadracer111 yeah I don't have too much $$$ so I gotta be wise in the decisions I make
I really hope the trojan is good!

[benovisoff]

just go to the nearest hobby store.

[Timcat26]

K... looks like the Trojan is the final answer... Ill get a 3-blade prop for lazy sunday flying and scale looks, I'll getta LED lighting system, and now I just have to swallow my Chinese food and buy it... Btw duz anyone know of any coupon codes for places were I can order the plane, and what's the best place to buy it?
quadracer111 yeah I don't have too much $$$ so I gotta be wise in the decisions I make
I really hope the trojan is good!

I found my first one locally on Craigslist for $210 for an RTF. After I finally killed that one I found a PNP on Ebay for $140.00 shipped and I also bit the bullet and got a Spektrum DX6i with a 6200 receiver. Radio and receiver issues killed the first one so I didn't want to take a chance again. It's a great plane for a first low wing, very forgiving on low rates but harder to fly on that setting after you get some stick time in. After three flights I just left it on high and have fun with it.

[RCBlonde]

Craigslist huh? K I'll check it out... but I'm not buying anything on Ebay, especially a pnp.

[benovisoff]

I have been having some ar6100 issues, not everything can be perfect right from the box.

[quadracer111]

K... looks like the Trojan is the final answer... Ill get a 3-blade prop for lazy sunday flying and scale looks, I'll getta LED lighting system, and now I just have to swallow my Chinese food and buy it... Btw duz anyone know of any coupon codes for places were I can order the plane, and what's the best place to buy it?
quadracer111 yeah I don't have too much $$$ so I gotta be wise in the decisions I make
I really hope the trojan is good!
Its suppose to be a great great plane! Very stable for a low wing!

[benovisoff]

it is very very nice. If you dont like it, you can punch me in the face, but you will like it.

[RCBlonde]

I just got the plane and I don't like it!:mad::mad::mad:
Your face is gonna be sorry!!! Just kidding :D LOLROFL I've heard so many nice thing s about this plane, so many videos, so many nice pics that Im pretty sure I'll like it. I loved my Cub so I should love this plane too. The only reason I know of its existence is because of a YouTube video comment that said the Trojan is a lot like the T-34 Mentor by E-Flite. (I was very interested in the T-34 at the time.) So I checked it out, than I made this thread.
And My LHS doesn't have it! Darn, looks like I'll get it off Hobby-zone or Red rocket Hobbies.

[Timcat26]

Craigslist huh? K I'll check it out... but I'm not buying anything on Ebay, especially a pnp.

Ebay's not for everyone but I've had good luck so far with it. I make sure that the Seller has a good rating and that there have been at least a few hundred transactions where they're the seller.

Craigslist is better because you get to see it before you buy it though.

[quadracer111]

cool. I want a vapor now
Get a vapor, the mcx gets kinda boring if you want to fly forward fast. You cant turn and fly forward to fast or else it will start to wobble or blade strike :( It wouldnt be to fun in a gym because its too slow

[RCBlonde]

I officially ordered my Parkzone T-28 Trojan!!! I got the $18.99 U.S. priority air shipping. About how long should it take for me to receive it?
Thanks!

[benovisoff]

I officially ordered my Parkzone T-28 Trojan!!! I got the $18.99 U.S. priority air shipping. About how long should it take for me to receive it?
Thanks!
cool. It should be soon. They are so fun.

[quadracer111]

Sorry to be a thread jack again but im wondering should i scratch build an extra 300 and build a plane for around $80 or buy a hobbyzone super cub?

[benovisoff]

As a first plane, or begginer? if yes to either, then buy the cub. I have never flown it myself, I started on the easystar, but this has had some great reviews

[RCBlonde]

Cub

[son of alpea42]

I have a Trojan with a 40 amp esc, an E-flite 480 1020kv, an APC 11by7 Electric prop, and a 1500 mah 3s 20c pack.It floats and it has no gear but I think it is a good choise and I would pick it as a first plane.

[benovisoff]

I have a Trojan with a 40 amp esc, an E-flite 480 1020kv, an APC 11by7 Electric prop, and a 1500 mah 3s 20c pack.It floats and it has no gear but I think it is a good choise and I would pick it as a first plane.
how are the flight times with the 1500mah? I would only use 2100mah. I am getting that power 10 soon for it.

[quadracer111]

As a first plane, or begginer? if yes to either, then buy the cub. I have never flown it myself, I started on the easystar, but this has had some great reviews
If you count the vapor as a plane then a beginner. But i flew helis and i have g4, im great at planes on g4. The 3ch is just too easy on it. Or if i build a grayson sukhoi (the plane that is suppose to be inscrutable and you can build a prop saver type motor mount for it) i can just buy one power system, 1 tx, and if i happen to destroy it i could just build a plane from plans. The sukhoi could also be flown in a cul-de-sac becaue you can slow it down as its more of a 3d plane.

[RCBlonde]

Can't wait for my Trojan... taking to long! Waaaa!!!

[benovisoff]

It hasn't been that long. like 2 days? I sent out the money order today for my power 10 for it.

[quadracer111]

I HATE waiting for things!!

[benovisoff]

I know, but thats life

[RCBlonde]

2 days are like 2 decades, 2 freakin decades! srry lol. Its very snowy and cold here in NY. I got my Master Airscrew 3-blade Prop, that should keep me busy. Btw: are there any important tips I should know for\before assembling?
Thnx!

[Timcat26]

2 days are like 2 decades, 2 freakin decades! srry lol. Its very snowy and cold here in NY. I got my Master Airscrew 3-blade Prop, that should keep me busy. Btw: are there any important tips I should know for\before assembling?
Thnx!

Sorry it's taking so long for you.

For assembly I was advised to tape the wheel landing gear mounts to reinforce them and on my own decided to tape the wing to the fuse since it's held by one little screw and two slotted tabs. Eventually the wing will wind up glued to the fuse anyway.

Last thing I did was add velcro tabs to the front of the canopy to hold it on to the fuse as I was having trouble with the canopy popping off in flight. This got a little dangerous when inverted and the battery popped out. The CG was just a little bit off. ;-)

[benovisoff]

its worth it when the wait is over. Nothing good ever came easy

[RCBlonde]

Ya I know, I over-reacted the waiting thing LOL, and thanks for the tips Timcat. I'm using my 3-blade prop as a Shuriken ,(ninja star-weapon) I'm that bored. I should geta Blade MCX or Park Zone Vapor 2 entertain me. I'm also searching for good deals on DSM2 radios on E-Bay.
Blondeeee

[quadracer111]

No such thing as a vapor 2 :D just a vapor. You might be thinking of the ember, because there is now an ember 2, if your thinking of flying in your living room at all get a vapor

[ministeve2003]

No such thing as a vapor 2 :D just a vapor. You might be thinking of the ember, because there is now an ember 2, if your thinking of flying in your living room at all get a vapor

the 2 ment (to) abriviated...LOL

SK

[RCBlonde]

the 2 ment (to) abriviated...LOL

SK

Yea LOL I meant 2 as in "to". And I'm not gonna fly the Ember 2 In my living room LOL, Btw is the Kyosho Cessna centurion and the other ones they have any good?
And meh Trojan didint come yet... heeeeehhhh...:( :sad:*sigh*
Now I'm wondering what plane I should get after the Trojan LOL. Probably the E-flite 3D scale Ultimate Bipe ARF, than a E-flite T-34 mentor, than the Great Planes DC-3.

[Timcat26]

Yea LOL I meant 2 as in "to". And I'm not gonna fly the Ember 2 In my living room LOL, Btw is the Kyosho Cessna centurion and the other ones they have any good?
And meh Trojan didint come yet... heeeeehhhh...:( :sad:*sigh*
Now I'm wondering what plane I should get after the Trojan LOL. Probably the E-flite 3D scale Ultimate Bipe ARF, than a E-flite T-34 mentor, than the Great Planes DC-3.

I've got a Typhoon 2 3D PNP built and waiting until I get more Sim time on it. I'm using the DX6i to run both the Trojan and Typhoon. It really is much smoother and glitch free than the PZ transmitter, after all the programming's been setup for Hi/Low rate and Expo throws.

[ministeve2003]

Yea LOL I meant 2 as in "to". And I'm not gonna fly the Ember 2 In my living room LOL, Btw is the Kyosho Cessna centurion and the other ones they have any good?
And meh Trojan didint come yet... heeeeehhhh...:( :sad:*sigh*
Now I'm wondering what plane I should get after the Trojan LOL. Probably the E-flite 3D scale Ultimate Bipe ARF, than a E-flite T-34 mentor, than the Great Planes DC-3.

thats called an adiction...LOL

Ps, the Ultimate Bip looks nice...

SK

[prop wash]

i feel that a good plane after a super cub is the apprentice. You start getting a feel for the plane and have enough weight to fly a little more

[prop wash]

would just like to discuss e- -planes

[quadracer111]

Yea LOL I meant 2 as in "to". And I'm not gonna fly the Ember 2 In my living room LOL, Btw is the Kyosho Cessna centurion and the other ones they have any good?
And meh Trojan didint come yet... heeeeehhhh...:( :sad:*sigh*
Now I'm wondering what plane I should get after the Trojan LOL. Probably the E-flite 3D scale Ultimate Bipe ARF, than a E-flite T-34 mentor, than the Great Planes DC-3.
lol! I read your post too fast! I saw one to many 2's.
After the trojan i would try out scratch building, use the stuff from your trojan and just spend $40 on a kit or print off $9 pdf plans. I think after the super cub im going to go with a corsair (i freakin love that plane), or try scratch building, or buy a corsair then scratch build after it. :D

[RCBlonde]

i feel that a good plane after a super cub is the apprentice. You start getting a feel for the plane and have enough weight to fly a little more

Yeah, an addiction it is...
About the Apprentice, It looks nice with it slats and Cessna-like airframe, so chubby and cute LOL:D, that I actually could consider getting it, maybe for my Newbie Dad. But 4 me its only for Sunday flying, not training. I also purchased a hobbistar 60 mk3 for and from my Club, it handles the wind great, but its messy nitro so I'll prob convert it into Electric. I also flew the Electristar 40 which is a lot like the Apprentice, 'cept balsa. I needed something like the Trojan, fast and maneuverable. Btw is the T-28 Trojan a "Bear cat", cuz I once saw It in a magazine a while ago and It looks a lot like the Trojan. Last thing, Every r-c plane flier at my Park and club have a Futaba Fasst or a DSM2 radio, everyone cept me... :C I want a 6-channel DSM2 radio, but they are way to expensive. Does anyone know were I could find one for a cheap price?
Thanks and My Trojan still didn't arrive...:censor:

[RCBlonde]

Quadracer, yeah I should never use numeric abbreviations LOL. I'm actually thinking of getting a Typhoon 2 3D pnp after the Trojan-oops, here I go again! too many I wanna's. Speaking off plans u should check out the plans for the So.11 plane by this one dude, its on the Web somewhere, I dunno his name, but I know one who almost Is done Building one of his projects, They're easy. The planes called So .11 and Its a foamie twin. Just 4 fun.

[quadracer111]

Rcpowers.com has a free extra 300 that looks nice! Also the grayson hobby sukhoi looks good. Check out ebay or the rcgroups classifieds. Just post a wanted thread. You can find a decent dx6 (its not dsm2 but dsm) for around $110. I dont know if you have seen this before but http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8338&Product_Name=Hobby_King_2.4Ghz_4Ch_Tx_&_Rx_(Mode_2)
All the reviews are great and have nothing bad about it. Rx's are only $15. Thats going to be my radio if/when i scratch build :D That and a cheap grayson hobby sukhoi kit = a mighty fine and cheap plane. Rcpowers has a video that shows how to make a indestructable motor mount for it and they crashed it into a tree a bunch of times and it never broke once. The plane is suppose to be indestructable.

[RCBlonde]

kool I'll check it out. And BTW: I got my Trojan, though I didn't unbox it...yet!

[quadracer111]

What?! Not unboxed it yet?? I would be driving that thing up and down my street by now! :P Your lucky, a plane takes 3 weeks to get here from the U.S, i get things from hong kong faster. I hate the customs, took 3 and a half weeks to get here.

[RCBlonde]

K Its open and ready 4 flight! Its the most beautiful R/C plane I ever saw! When my dad came from his job he wouldn't stop saying Wow! I'm hoping that it flies as good as it looks! Its 38-47 degrees F with now, almost no wind. Should the Li-Po and the plane be OK in these weather conditions? I needa know now, not to much time left. BTW, any tips on the maiden? And how long does the Li-Po charge? I also realized that the canopy at the back-side is a little more elevated than the fuse around it. And the magnet was torn off when I was trying to take it off (the canopy, not the plane) so put a load of invisible tape on it and it stays fine, so-far . And the E-Flite BEC ESC 30-amp sure looks like its something. The programmable features are sweet. Should program the prop to windmill or brake when power ends?
Thanks, and I needa now if it can fly in such temps cuz the weather for the week sucks, so I think this is my chance!

[RCBlonde]

I still can't find any info on if the trojan can handle cold temps....waaah!

[RCBlonde]

It looks like the Trojan can handle cold weather... Good! Now I just gotta find a nice day and fly it! Btw does anyone have any problems with the canopy hatch not bieng properly aligned?

[ministeve2003]

mine didn't align very good, I just mushed it into shape, I'm also using a rubber band on the back of it to prevent it from coming off.... I don't know if this is normal or not...as this is the first one I've put togeather from parts
SK

[Alpea42]

The Trojan is the sweetest flyin low wing aileron trainer ever made. The only way you can mess up is if you bank it too sharp, going too slow, it will snap roll. But that doesn't happen offten.

[son of alpea42]

when I got mine from the guy at the field it was aligned very well.It flies for about 13 minutes with about half throtle.

[RCBlonde]

The weather is TERRIBLE! Its totally windy, snowy and cold!!! I can't wait till it ends!!!!
Were's my Parkzone Etomic Vapor when i need it? I'm probably just gonna find some money and buy it!

[benovisoff]

HAHA. sucks for you! JK. I just went flying for 2 hours! it is totally windless and clear and there are rainbows. I will go again after charging because the wind will not pick up today.

[RCBlonde]

Luckyyyyyy! I need like a Rc flight Sim...to keep me entertained or a Vapor.

[RCBlonde]

Good, looks like after the giant snowstorm is done terrorizing me, the temps are rising to the 50-60s, at least they should be in three days. I think I can finally fly my trojan!!!!

[benovisoff]

good

[RCBlonde]

it took the plane too long to be delivered (not really) and know it takes to long for the weather to change.... stilll 35!!! a wateva it'l change... Im just a cry-baby LOL

[1320fastback]

I've been flying the SC for over a year now and just got the Ultrafly FW190 as my second plane, I couldnt pass it up for $80.00. Yes its balsa, yes its a low wing war bird and NO I do not know what I've got myself into.:D

Its going to be awhile before its airborn as I want to get a new 450 class heli flying first.

[benovisoff]

I've been flying the SC for over a year now and just got the Ultrafly FW190 as my second plane, I couldnt pass it up for $80.00. Yes its balsa, yes its a low wing war bird and NO I do not know what I've got myself into.:D

Its going to be awhile before its airborn as I want to get a new 450 class heli flying first.
I was thinking of this plane myself. it uses around a 480 or power 10, right?

[1320fastback]

I was thinking of this plane myself. it uses around a 480 or power 10, right?

From what I've read yes. I don't have any internals yet but the AUW is 32 ounces and the wing loading will be 13.8 oz/sq ft.

I have herd that this model is discontinued, I found one at a local Hobby-people and it was the last one they had.

Kyosho makes a nice FW190 with retracts and flaps but is a lot more $$$.

[benovisoff]

oh man discontinued. I like to deal with most warbirds that are in around the t-28 size and weight like this. thats too bad.

[1320fastback]

Try hobbypeople.com last I checked they still had them available for $80.00.

[benovisoff]

ok. there is one near me too.

[RCBlonde]

ok it looks like I can fly it tommorow...yay!

[benovisoff]

Even I am excited.

[RCBlonde]

yea lol ok.... how long 2 charge?
Btw I realized that the tail has some missing and scratched off paint... not to noticable, but knowing myself... anyways I gotta charge it and and kick it in the air. The weather is also real nice, warm 60-70 degrees. Its gonna slide back to the 50s soon though so I better hurry up!

[benovisoff]

what is the mah rate on the stock charger, and is it a balancing charger?

[RCBlonde]

The charger is a balancing charger and the mAh rate is.... no clue! It doesn't say anywere.... The small dial is set to 2.0 Amps so I dunno.

[benovisoff]

that doesn't make sense, isn't the lipo 1800mah? if it was set at 2.0 amps, thats way overload.

[RCBlonde]

Ok... anyways I charged it... round 1-1:30min. Pretty fast! (At least from my experiences). My field was under water-drainage construction, and my park is a bit to small for a maiden so I went to the club. I also brought my .60 Hobbico Hobbistar. My club instructor decided to try out the Hobbistar first, then we realized the engine mounting screws for it were loose so there goes an hour. Since this thread is about a second electric plane not a 3rd glow one I'll make this quick. Well it flew fine, my instructor and we took turns flying. (It almost crashed into a glider O.o) So then it was drizzling when my Trojans turn came... heh well I said hell with it and kicked the Trojan in the butt! (My instructor did). He flew 2 rounds at high speed and then came the rain darn-it! It landed 5stars, but I was p.o'd I couldn't try it out. I saw 2 more Trojans flying at high speed doing inverted passes earlier and a E-flite 15 Apprentice. Pretty good, but I gotta try myself...stupid rain! Now my novel ends and I'll have to wait until next SAT., SUN to fly.

[benovisoff]

cool

[RCBlonde]

Ok If I can't fly on Sat, Sun then I'm gonna cry my eyes dry! LOL! I don't care if the world is gonna end so... BTW what should the small dial be set too?
And I gotz this figuired out:
1st plane: Supercub
2nd plane: T-28 Troajn
3rd Plane: Hobbistar
4th Plane:Apprentice
5th plane (Heli) E-flite Balde 400.
6th plane: great planes Edge 540t or T-34 mentor epts....
An addiction it is!

[benovisoff]

NO!!!! Don't do it!!! A blade 400 is not a 5th plane like I had hoped. I really did try this and in two short trying to hover flights of about 20 seconds each, I realize I wasted about 230 dollrs, and did 100 dollars of damage to it. Planes and helis are two different species. You need a Blade CX 1,2,or 3. If ou don't heed this warning, you will be out of alot of time and money.

[capt. crash]

lol!
heli is not even close to a plane!
not even similair! you will get your butt kicked if you even begin to think you're plane flying experience will help you!

I would get a blade mcx maybe and try that out, then go for a Blade 400 with using help from the heli forum big time! one must find out how to learn how to fly or a lot of money will be wasted (if that makes sense).

[benovisoff]

yep.

[1320fastback]

The only way fixed wing experience transfers to helis is basic orientation.

Do NOT start with a Blade 400 or any other 450 class heli, this is nothing personal but you will crash many times when you first start flying/hovering helis.

It makes more sense financial and practical to start with a small FP/CP like a Dragonfly or HoneyBee.

As a beginner you CANNOT get a heli from the store and come home and fly it like you can an airplane.

Heres my small FP trainer, $99.00 RTF and at most a crash cost $20.00

[ministeve2003]

Ok If I can't fly on Sat, Sun then I'm gonna cry my eyes dry! LOL! I don't care if the world is gonna end so... BTW what should the small dial be set too?
And I gotz this figuired out:
1st plane: Supercub
2nd plane: T-28 Troajn
3rd Plane: Hobbistar
4th Plane:Apprentice
5th plane (Heli) E-flite Balde 400.
6th plane: great planes Edge 540t or T-34 mentor epts....
An addiction it is!


hahaha.... Don't worry Folks... I'm sure by the time he gets to the t28, this list will change alot....

Ps, Don't start with a 400 size for your first heli, at least go to a trex450/ or clone, its a little bigger and more stable, Stable means less crashing = less in parts costs.... a 400 size will nickle and dime you...

SK

[RCBlonde]

Sorry about the blade 400! ! I just saw a dude flying the Blade at my club with a T-rex 700 and they're awsome! I still like planes more, don't get me wrong! (I don't know why, my deceased grandfather's great uncle was Igor Sikorsky, the helicopter dude, but I favor planes (he also made a bomber called Ilya mooravits which was a plane). And I have 2 Coaxial Helis, 2-3 channel, and 1 fixed pitch heli walkera 4#2, and 1 cp heli A Honneybee cp2 (dunno why I din't mension it.) I destroyed the rotor blades on the Walkera, and There is some minor damage done to the Honney Bee, but I'm getting better. Now about the Trojan I HAVE to fly it on Sat or Sun or i'll kill my self LOL and what should the AMP dial on the T-28 charger be set to?
Thanks!

[ministeve2003]

and what should the AMP dial on the T-28 charger be set to?
Thanks!

depends on what battery's your using....

SK

[benovisoff]

ah, igor

[RCBlonde]

depends on what battery's your using....

SK

The battery is a 11.1v 1800mAh 3-cell Li-Po and I still dunno what the dial should be on. And I'm flying today even if its the end of the world.
Thanks!

[benovisoff]

what charger. don't charge over 1.7. you will explode everything.

[RCBlonde]

OK, I'll set it to 1.5 and hope for the best! And the charger is a 3cell balancing Li-Po charger... The stock one. It uses power from my car cigarette ligther.

[benovisoff]

ok. is it a balance charger

[ministeve2003]

since it's a 1800, you can charge at 1.8, but if your charger only has 2amp or 1.5, then charge at the lower one....

SK

[RCBlonde]

I finally bit then bullet and flew it! It took of gently and quick. I flew circles, figure 8s, and loops with ease! I set the rates on high and it became more fun, but then when I tried landing for the 3rd time the ailerons became sluggish so I tried to use rudder but I was too low so it landed rather un-gracefully. The landing gear on the wing was loose so I taped it. Second was worse though, the nose was almost ripped off so I taped it too. Afterwards I had 2 more flights, one of them resaulting in a almost crash. It was the same thing, whenever I put the plane in idle the ailerons start to fail when turning. Last landing was great but one landing gear was ripped off when landing. In all this plane is a charm to fly but the landings were kinda iffy.

[LectricPlane]

RCBlonde
At a guess I'd say you are making the landing approch too slow. Keep it fast enough to feel like a powered approach (or use 1/3 power) and then bleed the speed off at 0.5m off the ground as you put it down in a straight line.

[benovisoff]

I usually go 1/3 power until 1-2 ft. from the ground. I landed mine today so close today as usaul it just came right to me and came right to my legs.

[jkaven]

OK, I'll set it to 1.5 and hope for the best! And the charger is a 3cell balancing Li-Po charger... The stock one. It uses power from my car cigarette ligther.

I don't know if this has already been said but...

I really want to recommend not charging in a car. Get a power supply and charge it someplace where if a fire starts things won't burn.

Also consider a better charger like the Cellpro Multi4

http://www.fmadirect.com/detail.htm?item=2306&section=45

[jkaven]

Last landing was great but one landing gear was ripped off when landing. In all this plane is a charm to fly but the landings were kinda iffy.

It's a bit trickier to land than the Super Cub. The best advice I can give is practice touch and goes with zero wind. If you come in for an approach and it isn't what you want, add some throttle and go around for another try. If everything is good, land without coming to a stop and take off again.

The landing gear isn't glued in very solid. Remove them and use some Gorilla glue to glue them in there real good.

[1320fastback]

Here how my second plane after the Super Cub is looking, shes almost done and I'm nervous as H_LL about flying her :o

[ministeve2003]

I don't know if this has already been said but...

I really want to recommend not charging in a car. Get a power supply and charge it someplace where if a fire starts things won't burn.

Also consider a better charger like the Cellpro Multi4

http://www.fmadirect.com/detail.htm?item=2306&section=45

I'll make a recomendation on that... you can make an extension cable so that you can charge outside the car... the two main wires will be the only thing inside....

SK

[RCBlonde]

OK thanks for the charging and landing advice! The place were I flew it was tiny, a small, little park, (my field were I normally fligh is under water irrigation construction) so when I make tight turns too land I'm slow and low, then it just stalls so I tried landing it with the wind, the plane landed great, but rolled on forever, and Then the landing gear went "foosh' making the plane skid on one wing, it was sorta realistic though. And when I charge it the green LED and the red LED are flashing randomly, I know if they flash at the same time the LiPo is bieng balanced, but they were flashing randomly, but it all still charger well. And one more thing, how the heck do you get the prop spinner off?

[zoldar]

I also fly a Supercub. I have been looking at the T-28 as a second plane. From what I have read it seems to be a good choice.

[benovisoff]

OK thanks for the charging and landing advice! The place were I flew it was tiny, a small, little park, (my field were I normally fligh is under water irrigation construction) so when I make tight turns too land I'm slow and low, then it just stalls so I tried landing it with the wind, the plane landed great, but rolled on forever, and Then the landing gear went "foosh' making the plane skid on one wing, it was sorta realistic though. And when I charge it the green LED and the red LED are flashing randomly, I know if they flash at the same time the LiPo is bieng balanced, but they were flashing randomly, but it all still charger well. And one more thing, how the heck do you get the prop spinner off?
get a right fitting allen wrench or hex key, whatever, to fit into the whole in the prop adapter and turn it counter-clockwise. Make sure when you put it back on that it's really tight and use the same wrench again.

[RCBlonde]

When I try turning it c. c. it just turns the prop. Anyways im in Nizhny Novgorod, Russia rigth now with my relatives and the WiFi sucks so I can't always reply. I'll be back the 1st april in NY.

[ETFish]

E-Flite Apprentice best all around trainer after supercub (bolt your own studs in though the stock ones have a tendancy to pull out mid flight)

[1320fastback]

I would fully mod the SC instead of getting the Apprentice; with ailerons, brushless and lipos. This way you only have one high-wing trainer.

Then the T-28 would be a great second plane as it will give you experience with low-wing and ailerons. Just my 0.02

[cjg]

I learned to fly on the Supercub, then went to the T-28. The T-28 is a great follow on once you've mastered the supercub (i.e. you maneuver it where you want, and land it where you intend to land it).

[benovisoff]

When I try turning it c. c. it just turns the prop. Anyways im in Nizhny Novgorod, Russia rigth now with my relatives and the WiFi sucks so I can't always reply. I'll be back the 1st april in NY.
Ooo my motherland. Try holding the spinner and motor with some pliers and then turn the prop.

[Devo]

Went from Super Cub to Art-Tech F4U Corsair plane flew well but has a VERY weak fuse and landing on grass broke it. Now have a T-34 Mentor, boy its a hadfull landing with speed but no problems so far.

[1320fastback]

Went from Super Cub to Art-Tech F4U Corsair plane flew well but has a VERY weak fuse and landing on grass broke it. Now have a T-34 Mentor, boy its a hadfull landing with speed but no problems so far.


I would love go get the T-34 it looks like a really nice plane..What make is it? is it balsa?

[Devo]

Yes, its balsa and ply, only mods so far are some 3" dubro wheels (grass field) and adding a flap servo.

[1320fastback]

Awsome, what make is it? Is it the E-flite or other?

I am still waiting on the RX for my first balsa, after its all together I am going to do a lot of high speed taxi test to get a feel for the speed before I go for it.

[Devo]

Yeah, It's the E-Flite t-34 Mentor, flies real well, just comes in like a bomb due to size and weight but still manageable. Installed the flap servo today, Im new at this and it only took about 20 mins. The servo slot is ready for the install just needed to cut the film and mount it!!

[RCBlonde]

HI guys, Im still in Russia. BTW benivisoff are you from Nizhny or somewere else in Россия? My family is realy from Ukraine, but a part lives in the US and Russia. I also speak Russian, but I was born in NY. Now, back to stuff with wings (or not) I will be getting some CA to re-enforce my gear for the t-28 once I come back and fly it at my club. And I also need some kind of slow, manuverable flying thing for my living room. The Vapor is nice, but it seems to be pretty big for small rooms. Not too small, but I want something I can Fly in the hall. The MCX looks good , but I like planes a little more (i'll get the MCX one day anyways cuz I need to start the Heli stuff) And is there a way to like make the Vapor a blimp with a helium balloon cuz I saw a vid on Youtube. I also have to get the T-34 mentor one day, cuz its like the most complete and coolest pakage for a rtf thats large (too big for my park, thats why I got the Trojan). The price is also pretty blah, but Its actually good for a RTf.
Sorry 4 teh long posts, I rarely see the computer. And does anyone know of any good indoor flyers? Thanks!

[Devo]

Actually the price on the T-34 dropped 50$ recently and Horizon will Fedex ground ship it for free right now. The RTF comes with the Dx6i Radio 200$ by itself, I was just gonna get the Tx but said what the hell, I love the look of the T-34, setup was a breeze. The canopy had some minor dmg but a quick call to Horizon and I had a new one in less than a week. overall id say im happy.

Also picked up a Parkzone F4U Corsair PnP and went through installing my 1st reciever and binding it. Not as hard as I though it would be can't wait to fly it!

[1320fastback]

Yea I really like the T-34 and also the Texan....Oh who am I kidding I just got another plane that I still havent flown yet....need to stop looking.

[RCBlonde]

T-24 mentor is mine! Is there a PNP somewone is sellining? Anyways I still need a good radio such as the Dx6i sooner or later. I'll just save up for it and get it. But now I gotta focus on my Trojan.

[benovisoff]

Perm'
My t-28 gear got really really shot today.

[Devo]

Largely why I went with the Corsair, didn't even bother installing gear just put on the skids and packing taped the bottom. Ive even bent the sturdy gear on my T-34 due to clumpy grass field.

[benovisoff]

Now, I am on the fast track to a new fuse.

[RCBlonde]

Quick Ques (maybe not)
Meanwhile I'm repairing mt T-28 fuse I need something small to fly in my house. I wanted a PZ vapour, but I can't really hover it in tight spaces.
So it came down to this:

Blade MCX
or
Walkera 5g61 I want something that is as stable as a table (unintentional
rhyme), easy for anyone to fly, not made out of cheap material, and good solid flight performance. I once owned a Walkera heli, but the electronics just suck, the same goes to my e-sky honeybee2. I want the MCX, but its more $$$ compared to the Walkera heli. The walkera also seems to have a plus as it has metal parts. So anyways.... theres my question.
Thnx.

[benovisoff]

get the MCX. It is industructable from falls and it can't damage a thing. Also eflite and horizon have great service and have all the replacement parts for it.

[RCBlonde]

Sorry for not adding anything to this thread in a long time. Had major WiFi internet issues. Anyways, I ordered a fuse for the T-28, cuz mines really beat up. Its raining a lot so not too much action was seen from my planes. I also wanna add a LED lighting system to my T-28, and scale gear struts. Anyone know of any good ones? Also whats the best (cheapest) on board camera? Btw the mCX is mine!
Thnks