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jismail
02-22-2009, 07:51 PM
Just finished my Maxford Albatross and maidened it this weekend.

http://www.maxfordusa.com/albatrosd-iiiep40arf.aspx

Wow, what a bird. The detail is very nice. It was tough to assemble without breaking little detail pieces off the motor... many of the balsa rockers broke off, but I was able to re-attach them all.

It was more involved as an assembly then I expected, but went together well. The kit is very nicely done and was packaged exceptionaly well so not breakage from shipping occured.

I went with a wood 10x6 prop, 2200mah lipo, and a 480 outrunner 1050KV I had lying around and it fit without any hassles. The hardest part for assembly was trying to fish the servo wires through the wing. Still not to bad.

On my maiden, I almost bought the farm on take off. Even with the COG set correctly, the bird went straight into a full loop on takeoff! I had abotu 10 seconds of sheer terror as it took my that long to get control of the looping and pitching monster. How I kept it out of the dirt is a wonder to me... but once I got the elevater trimed with tons of down pitch, it leveled out and flew nicely.

It handled well, looped and rolled with not effort, but did tend to crab abit on banks, almost like I had rudder mixing on even though I don't.

After my maiden, I took the bird back to the roost and promptly added a shim to the motor to try to offset some of the down elevator trim I need to get it to fly level.

Cant wait until next weekend! :tc:

Here she is:
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v456/cj5_fan/IMG_3449.jpg
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7car7
02-23-2009, 05:11 PM
It is a cool plane, and will fly nicely, as I've seen one in person.

Just curious, how did you decide that the problem was more down thrust needed, as oposed to being tail heavy?

dogsheep
02-23-2009, 10:50 PM
I bought a Maxford model at the recent NW fair and had a bit of fun: the Chinese fellow manning the booth sold me a model and then asked if I needed a motor, saying, "I have a nice one from Uranus."

Well, I thought he was joking, and said something like, "I think not."

Anyway, when I went to the web site, later, there it was, a motor from "Uranus!"

I know love is grand and all that, but did you clean the little guy's flight suit out?

jismail
02-24-2009, 03:52 AM
It is a cool plane, and will fly nicely, as I've seen one in person.

Just curious, how did you decide that the problem was more down thrust needed, as oposed to being tail heavy?


Primarily because I checked CoG and it is spot on, and when I cut power, it levels out.

dai phan
02-24-2009, 03:16 PM
Hi,

Do you have any problems with the motor mount as reported? I still have not put mine together until this problem is sorted out. I can fly the PZ Trojan T-28 without problems so is this plane within my ability to handle? DP

dogsheep
02-24-2009, 04:12 PM
Buy a motor from Uranus!

jismail
02-25-2009, 01:09 AM
Hi,

Do you have any problems with the motor mount as reported? I still have not put mine together until this problem is sorted out. I can fly the PZ Trojan T-28 without problems so is this plane within my ability to handle? DP


I did not have any motor mount issues, but I did make sure to put a good bead of glue all around the end of the firewall prior to closing things up.... just in case.

My eflite 480 outrunner with a 10x6 wood prop had no issues at all.

As for skill level required.... I think you will be fine but just remember to be a little lighter in the contols as it is quick to respond if the throws are set to full range.

oldnewpilot
04-15-2009, 02:28 PM
Super looking aircraft. Just assembling mine now. Having problems with recommended servos installation in the wings. Seem the servos are too thick and cause upper wing covering to bulge up when servo in place. Anyone run into this situation?

WWI Ace
04-19-2009, 11:21 PM
I LOVE the plane but I hate the looks of the shock absorbing landing gear!!! Steve

Gofer303
12-08-2011, 11:04 PM
I just got one in the mail today as it was a trade deal (whats behind door # 3) I did not know what was coming. After looking at this plane I really want to put it together right Just ordered my electronics from subsonicplanes.com Ken always has a lot of info for me and a good deal. All info and advice welcome thanks in advance.
Larry

Gofer303
12-11-2011, 06:18 PM
Isn't anyone on this anymore? The set up I am gettting is a Motrolfly 2215-1150 with reverse shaft, APC 9x6 E prop, and 2 11.1 1300mah 25c batteries. is this a good match for the plane ?

brutus251
12-22-2011, 01:38 PM
Ive had mine ready to go for over a year, 18 months I believe! I swear someone does not want me to maiden it,every time Ive decided to try, the weather or some other problem pops up.Its been to the field twice ,once I forgot the lipos for it on the bench and the second time out of no where it started to rain and kept raining all day.Every other time just did not work out for some reason. Id love to get this one flying.Ill check to see what Ive got for a power system and get back to you,mine did need a 2200 plus some lead to CG properly. Brutus

racie34
12-22-2011, 05:03 PM
today's a good day in RI Brutus:tc:

brutus251
12-22-2011, 07:14 PM
You bet,its 50 + degrees out and it looks like perfect flying weather as I look out the stores front window:sad: while Im working.......... Brutus

Gofer303
12-23-2011, 03:24 AM
Brutus
Thanks for the info I still have mine in the box got the batteries,esc,motor,props all together now and I need to get started. All I have read about this plane and the videos suggest that I will have a seasoned instructor at the field check it over and fly it first. The videos show it almost going into a ground loop on take off and the posts about the spinner being delicate is kinda iffy. But what the heck it is for flying and as long as I do not try to get too far ahead of myself it should be fine to fly. BTW winds up to 25 mph and high temp of 31 was today's wx. Larry

dcwwcp
12-26-2011, 03:54 PM
I'm making an albatros D.V and I'm looking for some information on the dummy motor that comes with the Maxford albatros D.III.

Is there any way you could measure the length of the engine from the front of the first cylinder to the back of the last cylinder?
Basically measuring the row of cylinders.

I'm curious to know the actual scale of the motor, and that would be a tremendous help.

thank you very much

~don

brutus251
12-26-2011, 08:47 PM
Don,Ill be happy to do it when I get back home from visiting the relatives in a day or two if noone gets to it first. Happy New Year.

Gofer303
12-27-2011, 03:02 AM
I'm making an albatros D.V and I'm looking for some information on the dummy motor that comes with the Maxford albatros D.III.

Is there any way you could measure the length of the engine from the front of the first cylinder to the back of the last cylinder?
Basically measuring the row of cylinders.

I'm curious to know the actual scale of the motor, and that would be a tremendous help.

thank you very much

~don
The motor is appx 6 inches long by 1/2 in wide I would open the package up but seeing as I have decided to sell or trade this kit I wont. I have attached a picture hope it helps you.
Larry

dcwwcp
12-27-2011, 04:34 AM
is that the row of cylinders, or the whole thing?

I don't have anything I can reference the whole thing to. my drawing just gives a measurement for the row of cylinders.

thanks
~don

Gofer303
12-27-2011, 12:27 PM
is that the row of cylinders, or the whole thing?

I don't have anything I can reference the whole thing to. my drawing just gives a measurement for the row of cylinders.

thanks
~don
At the end of the motor is a round almost 1/2 inch protrusion on each end that would fit in the frame. did you try the website to see if they have a better description or spare parts listing that has a blow up ? The round part that the whole motor is built on is below the top of the plane.

dcwwcp
12-27-2011, 06:26 PM
unfortunately, that won't do me much good. I'm waiting for a reply from maxford, to the same question.

the only real measurement that I could use to calculate the scale of the dummy motor is the row of cylinder, outside to outside.

I do appreciate you taking the time to try and help.

Gofer303
12-28-2011, 02:39 AM
unfortunately, that won't do me much good. I'm waiting for a reply from maxford, to the same question.

the only real measurement that I could use to calculate the scale of the dummy motor is the row of cylinder, outside to outside.

I do appreciate you taking the time to try and help.
Don
A rough measurement is close to 4 1/2 inches long from front outside of cylinder to rear outside of cylinder. I found a small enough ruler to get close with.
hope this helps some!
Larry

dcwwcp
12-30-2011, 12:36 AM
awsome!

so that's 1/9.43 scale to be exact. my simprop albatros body is 1/10 scale almost exactly.

so the difference is about 8mm or approx. 5/16"

man that's pretty close!

the maxford dummy motor is fairly expensive at $30.00 plus shipping, but it would save me a ton of time as opposed to building my own.
It is the best looking pre-made mercedes D.III dummy motor you can buy right now. not to mention the only one I think!

thank you very much for taking the time to measure again. that was exactly what I needed!

thanks
~don

Rockin Robbins
12-30-2011, 01:11 AM
Incredible plane! I've always loved the Albatross in all its models. Whew! That is an ultimate RC plane for sure.

Gofer303
12-30-2011, 02:35 AM
Don my pleasure Maxford USA als0o has a new spinner for around 25.00 there is where they make the money !
R R the kit I have is for sale on RC Universe would like to trade for a good DLE 20 or equivalent check it out or make a cash offer.
Larry

touche
01-23-2012, 05:13 PM
ARGGG!,
In a moment of weakness and insanity I just ordered the D111 from Maxford on sale. Just the plane..as it may be a while before I build it. It's Red and I know it will clash with my other Allied planes but I just love the looks of her.
I wonder why they recommend their Uranus motor/esc when they also sell capable motors cheaper..
As I am near Ocala I'll see what HURC offers. That way I'll have all the bits and pieces when I get back to the frozen north.:ws:

touche
01-27-2012, 01:00 PM
It kind of feels like a shell blew up and I was knocked unconscious for 4 days. When I came to I found out the war ended and everyone has gone home..Been very very quiet on the western front for 4 days.
My Albatros comes today. I'm working on a colour change. Be kinda glad when leave is over and we can resume flying.

touche
01-30-2012, 04:09 PM
I managed to get the parts out of the box. Lots of tape to hold everything in place for shipping. Examination confirmed my fears...Lots of bright RED....I'm thinking a repaint. I noticed on the origional thread back in 09 several guys painted theirs using either Krylon or Rustoleum.. I'm not familiar enough to know what covering was used. I would like to imitate the ply colour for most of the fuse. Can anyone point me to a good thread on painting over ultracote/Monokote films and perhaps some tips from their experiences.
This will be a slow build as I'm Rving so it won't get put together till I get home in late April, but between then and now I can do prep work like repainting etc.

degreen60
01-31-2012, 10:31 AM
Can anyone point me to a good thread on painting over ultracote/Monokote films and perhaps some tips from their experiences.


I use acrylic paint put on with a brush. I thin it with glass cleaner. I think it can be sprayed but I have not tried to spray it. I buy it at Walmart.

touche
01-31-2012, 03:36 PM
Thanks Don,
My neighbour just got back from the frozen north in Indiana says its cold up there..Gives you time for reworking all your rebuilds I guess.
I've been reading up on various sites and found some repainted maxfords but again they are old threads and the writers don't seem to be on this site any more. I found one with a reasonable ply looking sides and trying to figure out what and how it went.
Seems it just requires a good wipe down with acetone and a light scuffing after being sure the covering is tight, and go easy on the paint over. I'll do some more reading. Less red will be a nice thing for me anyway..

degreen60
01-31-2012, 07:45 PM
Thanks Don,
My neighbour just got back from the frozen north in Indiana says its cold up there..Gives you time for reworking all your rebuilds I guess.


I live southern Indiana, it was 60 yesterday and 55 today. Suppost to be about 34 by the weekend. The wind is keeping me from flying.

touche
04-26-2012, 06:09 AM
Well, Got home to the chilly north and am still waiting for Florida weather to catch up.
Got the Albatros DIII almost finished. Decided to keep her red with some diamonds to break up the colour. Matted down the shiny as well. Changed out the wheels to a set of Williams Bros 3.25 from the cheapo supplied ones. Motor,ESC,batteries servos and wires from HURC in Ocala..Slo fly 450-880kv, used a 40amp esc, 2200 batt., 2T90 & 2T50 servos, 9x6sf prop. Seems to balance at about 2.25 inches from front of upper wing. Will do a wattmeter test on her as there is no rush to fly her.
Have to get the Sensei trainer up and going and get some training time in.
Being red..she will be the first out of the hanger for a test crash :Q as Don likes to say.

wattman
04-26-2012, 03:10 PM
Looks good , the black triangles and dull coating certainly improved its looks , good luck flying this beauty .

degreen60
04-26-2012, 05:59 PM
Hope it flunks the crash test. If it don't will pm you my shipping address. LOL

pepcid
04-26-2012, 06:15 PM
How long did it take you to make it?

touche
04-26-2012, 07:24 PM
Thanks Gents,
By the way Don this winter (12/13) going south to Fl we will be cutting over on 74 thru Indianapolis and onward to Cinncinati but could drop down 65. Guess I could leave the shards and pieces (if there are any) behind a tree somewhere along that route. I don't want to get too close to you for fear the hex might reach out and touch me..;-).
The nose cone is a bit of work. I should have wood grained the prop before I put it on so I have that do do. I still have another 100 or so diamonds so I can make it blacker...lol. I'm saving those for its first rebuild..lol.
Between the SE5a,SpadX111. Nieuport17 and now this one I have quite the dogfight going on on the den ceiling..[popcorn]

touche
04-26-2012, 07:39 PM
Hi Pepcid,
I guess about 2 weeks total but not everyday.I did have to pace myself as the wifes list of honey dos was growing. The coating doesn't take long but didnt go on this Chinese monocote as nice as it applies to the GP models. The diamonds I cut myself on a $3.00 piece of black trim from the LHS. I used different control rods for the ailerons but had to use the CF rods and their crappy heatshrinks for the rudder/elev. There is a guide X member inside the fuse and the holes were very small. As well on the exits for the R/E the holes were huge so I had some yellow covering and covered them over. The yellows don't quite match but are close enough to simulate to battle damage repairs..lol. I put an Orange X RX in it and I have an extension Ant as well.
I just joined a club here so I may even get one of the guys to give it a once over and take it up. He has a few WW1 planes he has flown.
I'll post a pic of the innards and add them later today.
I also left off the windshield as it was just a piece of printed clear acetate. I have a windshield from a T moth somewhere and will see how it looks.
The wheels that came with it we pure crap but it wasn't worth the time to write them.
If your thinking of this plane drop me a PM and I'll give you my real biased opinion..lol
Just after I got it PZ has 2 new ones coming out. Hope I can hold out long enough..

TM4197
04-26-2012, 08:18 PM
I LIKE IT!!!:tc:

touche
04-26-2012, 09:37 PM
I just added a few more pics. I sanded the cabanes as the finish was very splotchy ie: shiny here, dull there as were the rads. I put some screen on the bottoms of the rads so the red wouldn't show thru. I also made a leather looking cockpit seat and still want to add a faux gauge panel. I also rusted up the engine a bit as well as the exhaust. I saw on the earlier threads some had trouble with the servo wires etc. I used a rod taped to the side of the extended 12 in.servo leads and they went thru easily. The Y connection is inside the fuse along one edge.
To join the wings together I used small screws front and back of the join glued in and wrapped red thread in a loop. This can be cut to separate the wing roots " for shipping to Don".
Now a question for those more experienced...
I mounted the RX with the stub antenna going thru the motor mount. There is an extension running back to the cockpit area. The ESC is opposite with the motor between. I did a range check and all seems well but that is w/o the motor running. Any thoughts re interference, from your experience.
Other than having to be careful connecting the battery it all fit very neatly.

jcopter
12-17-2012, 01:43 AM
I have just receintly got one. I had problems getting the ruddar & elevator servos installed, the boxes for the struts were in a little in the way, a little trimming solved that problem. I also shortened the height of the motor it was a little to tall looks much better now. I also installed my own rigging, as the nylon fishing line looked wrong not with the black wire installed it looks more scale. I am now in the process of figuring out where to place the electronics. I would like to get all the weight forward that I can with out adding to much balast, so lets see how all you albatross builders did this.
Jcopter