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Twmaster
02-10-2006, 04:38 AM
What I would like to know is what is the scope of this forum? Is it limited to just planes as defined in the rules for old timers? Or are more modern designs like the Scorpio Miss 2, or Tom Hunt's Miss Stick etc. also welcome here.
The reason I ask is I like the looks of many of the old timer kits. I also like some of the more contemporary aircraft (like I mentioned previously) and personally feel that this would be as good a place as any to discus here.
Thoughts?
Thanks!
50+AirYears
02-10-2006, 08:20 AM
Looking back on the discussions in the original Poll thread, I think the general idea was to define the term Nostalgia ourselves by using concensus. A lot of posts suggested using the definitions from SAM and VR/CS groups as a pattern. These groups seem to pretty much define Nostalgia as planes designed, flown, or produced prior to about 1970. If you restrict the category to electric powered only, there isn't much available. I seem to remember the only electric powered planes available about that time were the Victor Stazel Electomic line of tethered planes and a small German made electric free flight design. There were also some aircraft mfgs such as Chance-Vought and Sikorsky that were using tethered electric powered models to evaluate protoype concepts.
My humble opinion would have the Nostalgia category here to be concerned with models of any sort designed, produced or flown at least 25 to 30 years ago regardless of control system, and with emphasis on, but not neccesarily limited to, electric powered conversions of them.
But, it seems the managment is leaving the decision to us users!
Sky Sharkster
02-10-2006, 12:56 PM
My .02$ worth; This Forum should be for any models that convey the spirit of "Nostalgia" or "Old Timer" designs. The "New Timer" or "Miss Stick" are as welcome as a Struck "New Ruler" or Goldberg "Sailplane". The rules as developed by S.A.M. or VR/CS are mainly to provide a baseline for competition judging, for example a FF design from the '40's wouldn't have to compete directly with a design from the '60's. The advances in powerplants, airfoils and general planform would make it unfair. Even if both were equipped with R/C the "Starduster" could be expected to out-climb any pre-war model and in a LMR contest this would be an advantage. Of course one good thermal can equalize everything!
Regarding the VR/CS rules, I believe it is limited to R/C models designed before 1970 (with 3 categories within that time frame) but powered by any powerplant origionally. Most were glow, some desiel. Because of the scarcity (and price!) of old motors there are provisions for modernizing the powerplants. If the model, motor and radios all had to be from the (say) 1960's there wouldn't be many flying!
I think the electric flyers can be a force in revitalzing these classic designs and there will (sooner or later) be suggestions on motor size, battery allotment, etc. For now, "Fly what you brung!"
Ron
Twmaster
02-11-2006, 01:40 AM
Ron,
Thank you. That is the spirit I was hoping this forum would be about.
Now let's get building! (I have an older Ben Buckle Super 60 awaiting build) :)
Twmaster
02-12-2006, 12:11 AM
And I also bought one of these K&S Silky Wind mini planes off FeeBay:
http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo/KSJ/450/KSJ1526-450.jpg
forresterace
02-12-2006, 05:08 PM
My .02$ worth; This Forum should be for any models that convey the spirit of "Nostalgia" or "Old Timer" designs. The "New Timer" or "Miss Stick" are as welcome as a Struck "New Ruler" or Goldberg "Sailplane". The rules as developed by S.A.M. or VR/CS are mainly to provide a baseline for competition judging, for example a FF design from the '40's wouldn't have to compete directly with a design from the '60's. The advances in powerplants, airfoils and general planform would make it unfair. Even if both were equipped with R/C the "Starduster" could be expected to out-climb any pre-war model and in a LMR contest this would be an advantage. Of course one good thermal can equalize everything!
Regarding the VR/CS rules, I believe it is limited to R/C models designed before 1970 (with 3 categories within that time frame) but powered by any powerplant origionally. Most were glow, some desiel. Because of the scarcity (and price!) of old motors there are provisions for modernizing the powerplants. If the model, motor and radios all had to be from the (say) 1960's there wouldn't be many flying!
I think the electric flyers can be a force in revitalzing these classic designs and there will (sooner or later) be suggestions on motor size, battery allotment, etc. For now, "Fly what you brung!"
Ron
As a many year fan of O.T. thermal flying (electric), I heartily agree with Ron's opinion for the scope and content of this forum.
Twmaster
02-12-2006, 05:22 PM
As a many year fan of O.T. thermal flying (electric), I heartily agree with Ron's opinion for the scope and content of this forum.
Hiya Doug! So, this is your first post here.... :D
I want to wave hi to Doug and welcome him here to WattFlyer. Doug is a long time online acquaintance and a damn spiffy designer of model planes and boats.
His designs are among the best out there and in the racing boat world are highly prized creations. I am sure his airplanes will be of the same top notch quality as his other creations.
Definitely a welcome addition to the WF family.
This Baby-Ace is one of Doug's designs:
http://welasercut.com/lasercart/images/large/Baby-Ace_LRG.gif
Hope to see your next one soon!
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