$69 RTF Exceed RC 3-Channel J3 Piper Cub, yep it flys !

[phillipmorris]

We are going bargain basement here, as only $69 complete with transmitter, newbie recently puchased one of these and put it up for him only yesterday, was too windy day before, and only made a bunnie hop flight, checking the COG decided it needed adjustment forward abit...

So last evening waited for below 10 MPH winds to subside and finally off we go, did the standard hand toss, had the elevator slightest up as I'm use to on the Super Cub, went off very well, kept into the breeze and it gained nice altitude ! I was getting ecstatic, went smoothly and nice speed as not too fast for the beginner, motor is abit underpowered, had it up full throttle, but managed nice turns, even gave the newbie a few trys on the stick and he held it well against the steady breeze, when it last turned on him, took the controls back and simply circled around, I was getting excited on this one, is not the larger plane, but gads, not bad for a starter...not zoomy at all as I expected...made well over 5 to 7 minute flight, lowered the throttle and it came in on the grass, slight nose up but easy landing, it does look rather durable, I still give the Super Cub the top choice, but if your after a knock about or limited funds, this might be the ticket..

Note we tried Flyzones version and loads of issues on it, perhaps simply received a bad one, but it failed to gain altitude and finally met its match on a solid crash..and it was twice the price with high freq transmitter, live and learn...<>..

Meanwhile I had to order the Exceed Cub for myself, just to have another fun flyer, see if the first was a winner fluke...fingers crossed...<>.

Some of my favored's todate

Super Cub, Later Night Flights
T28 Trojan Warbird
Radian Sailplane, off the chart thermaling
MCX Coaxial Heli
Blade 400

Bargain basement fun
S008 thats s zero zero 8, fun toy heli from Xheli $25 !!
Exceed Cub $69, looks good todate..<>.

One of the suppliers for the $69 Exceed Cub RTF

http://www.nitroplanes.com/j3pipercub.html

Added note:
Before rushing out and buying this one please note its tricky on the launch, it must fly out a long ways before making airspeed, added delema for any newbie, we have two of these models and both were not balanced out of the box, required adding nose weight, current COG Center Of Gravity, is around 1 3/4 inches from the leadning edge of the wings, will be just behind the front of the leading as it starts from the leading edge or about 1/3 of the way past the front edge lettering...I decked in both planes on the maidens, its a fooler, you want to manuver too soon, once airborne with enough distance to reach it and have it at last flying, its a very gentle bird, slow flyer, not a zoomer, rather nice trainer if you can pull off the launch..<>...

Below check out the video especially on the brushed motor one, note he's a 3D pilot but decked his in twice before going out far enough for airspeed, it does show how durable a plane it is, too hard of a knock and you will have damages, both of ours have red badge of courage cracks, but easy tape fixes, all part of the learning experience..Good Luck On Yours .<>.

Currently have now several flights and pleased with its rather predictable flight after making airspeed, it will make nice altitude and flys stable if you have all the correct trims and balance, please don't forget to cycle the nickel battery, out of the box run the battery down with throttle, till the motor stops, the included charger will take just over 3 hours with a fully depleted battery, cycled battery gives more power and extended flight time, a must..<>.warning the charger does not cut off, simply check the charge by feeling the warmth of the battery, fully charged will be nice and warm, don't let it get too hot...<>...

Nearing 2 dozen flights have a fair idea on its behavior

1. Far from overpowered, you need to let it fly out quite aways to reach airspeed, fools the experienced as viewed in videos
2. Once airborne becomes very docile and predictable provided you have it trimmed out, two models of these both required nose weight, COG about 1 3/4 inches from leanding edge
2a. Cycle that battery, mandatory or simply won't fly ! First charge run it all the way down, then recharge and your ready..
3. Ground take off will make it, but need a long path to reach airspeed, full throttle, rudder should hold things straight, eventually lifts into the wind very low take off...
4. Hand launch I prefer, just medium firm toss, slight push off underneath but still straight out aids to height and helps on the low launch, again goes out quite aways for airspeed, no turning right away.
5. Its a very slow flyer, really not bad for the beginner, and makes it an excellent candidate for later Night Flights, handles well and able to keep this one close..nice
6. Weakness is this time period required for reaching airspeed, be ready for that, keep things level, don't let it freeze in the air and your in for some fun flying.
7. Not aware of anything this inexpensive that will fly for you, $69 complete, a winner !!!
8. Note are superior planes out there, but few even close to this low investment !!

Its not a serious plane, just have fun, nice knockabout, not too bad a trainer..<>..

BEST ..<>..

[baron2010]

phillipmorris hey sure glad to see this report, as I ordered my exceed j-3cub
ysterday....should be here next monday...hope it will go as well for me as
you folks....be my second plane, 1st 3 channel...I am looking forward to it...
thanks again
don
BTW can u explain to another newbie how to check the COG?
thanks again

[phillipmorris]

Wish you only success, do the simulation even the free FMS simulator will help tremendously, so have some practice first please...

On the COG, the owner wisely placed it just behind the front lettering on the leading edge or just barely past the beginning of the lettering near the leading edge, usually you want about 27 percent back from the leading edge, don't go too far back tail heavy or gets to difficult to control, I would put the slightest uptrim on the elevator, just a tad, don't over due it...

Secret on getting this abit underpowered puppie to fly is to let it go out aways and gain some airspeed, watch the nose and keep it level, then ever so slightly make the turn after reaching some altitude, just a very small up trim on the turns won't need too much, it flew rather well for a small flyer, I was actually shocked on how well it handled..

I did do one take off in winds off the pavement but this one does better with hand launch so have someone else throw it straight out, not up or down, simply straight forward into the wind...likely you know all this but for any newbies hope this helps..

Fingers crossed mine will fly as well...Keep us posted...

[baron2010]

Thanks a bunch for this....yes I'm practicing on my sim for sure...
thanks again
don

[phillipmorris]

After flying this one, am hooked so have one on order, heck for $69...but won't arrive till tuesday, rainy lately anyway so viewed some youtube, came across this amazing video on the Exceed Cub, its beyond words, hope you enjoy it, he updated brushless etc, but was having maiden flight issues, ours did much better with the stock setup, totally amusing, finally gets it to fly, my hats off to him for a wonderful full entertainment video !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvtSaAPdNjo&feature=related

Note he does look down on the supplied transmitter, it is in the lower class, but I've flown several of these value type flyers, all similar equipment, just the slide throttle is different, otherwise close to the regular transmitters for me, right stick controls the elevator and rudder nicely...my maiden with this one, all was fully functional...<>..

[baron2010]

Heck if mine stands up to crashes like his did, I got no worries LOL...thanks
for the link.
don

[phillipmorris]

Yep they are rather durable, another plus for this one, now for the long wait on mine tuesday...

A note - be sure and cycle the nickel battery, when it arrives run it down completely till the motor stops, improve after cycling, when your done flying run it down again before charge, you will have longer flight times doing this...

[phillipmorris]

Another nice video flying stock, like his yellow shirt matching the plane, ex heli pilot, did very well...dang weather was great last evening, anxious to receive the Cub, still waiting as due around Tuesday...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIs5SZUAb5E&feature=related

[baron2010]

Morning Phillip, yeah I'm tracking my j-3 online LOL...and its across the missouri river at kansas city kansas, so I may even get mine today!! hmmmm, wonder if my wife would dye one of my white "T's"? LOL...
don
:)

[phillipmorris]

I'm going to check for a yellow shirt, a must have...hah ..<>..

Good Luck, please keep us informed, you'll have a better chance with an experienced pilot, take your time...make sure the COG is correct, tail heavy they are hard to handle and refuse to rise...be patient, I suggest the hand launch with someone else doing the level toss, and please wait for the winds to die down, have enough to deal with...gads, mine still looks like Tuesday, sigh...<>..

[baron2010]

Yeah, mine didn't make it in today dag nab it!! LOL..I don't have
anyone to help me with it tho, but will definitely hand launch like i
did the avion...looking forward to it...mebbe we'll start an unofficial
J3Cub $69 thread LOL...
don

[birdDog]

Ya just gotta love those light planes, they really roll with the punches. You also had a great crowd in the first vid! Good job.

[baron2010]

I got my $69 j-3 cub in today..yeaaay....currently charging both my tx and plane batts, then will cylcle the plane batt a couple times...then put the plane together...they had a "one sheet" instruction paper in the box...nothing about balance or COG...but will do the best I can...everything was in fine
shape in the box, cept I notice a little sloppy work on the decal stuff, smoothed it all out the best I could...nobody gonna see it but me anyhow!!lol..
Will start a new thread when I see how well I do flying the little thing!!
don

[phillipmorris]

Possible over-charge on the battery, my friend had his Exceed Cub out tonight, he likely over-charged as 3 hours or more and mentioned it was very hot, it didn't fly well, he's not familiar to charging cycle, hope the battery isn't fried, yikes....

Meanwhile mines due Tuesday, anxious to see how it flys..<>...BEST ..<>..

[gamegeezer]

Sorry... didn't meen to hi-jack the thread w/ a Cessna question =) So i created a noew post... disregard this one.

~Thanks, Jim

[phillipmorris]

Received mine late today, and barely time to fly before dusk...took a few attempts to get it going, as takes longer for airspeed than my other flyers..once airborne not too bad, it failed to make decent altitude on my maiden but several minutes of fun flight..earlier made a hard landing, did a crack on the rear fuselage, easy tape fix...

Meanwhile my newbie flyer also took abit to get the required airspeed, last airborne gave him the controls, his reached decent altitude, and he was able to make his very first rc flight, lasted several minuutes, his brief FMS simulation helped, finally turned on him for a firm crash, but minimal damage on the front fuse, easy repair, this ones tuff !!

I strongly suggest especially on this bird, to have a qualified rc pilot, even he may find it requires some effort to reach airpseed during the launch, once its flying, handles rather well...

Note this one doesn't fly right out of the box, am still tweaking for the best COG Center Of Gravity settings and trims, best I can say is its close to just behind the front of the lettering towards the leading edge on the wings, very slight uptrim on the elevator is optional, be careful don't overdue it or will stall on release, it does best with a firm hand launch, takes abit of a pavement run to reach speed to take off, prefer the hand launch...<>..

I personally would suggest the newbie fly the Super Cub, its set to fly right out of the box, and has plenty of power for flight, after airborne it cruises at 1/2 throttle with ease for near 20 minute flight with proper cycled battery...<>..

But the Exceed is less than 1/2 the cost, and if your successful with it, its a bargain flyer..<>..

[baron2010]

Hey good to hear you got urs up Phillip, mine is ready to go, but raining
today durn it...I had to adjust the servos on mine as they were off, got the batt cycled once and recharged...but weather looks iffy until saturday....
don

[phillipmorris]

Nope, its not a fluke this one will fly, but I'm strongly concerned on newbies keeping things level before it reaches airspeed, only then input the turns etc..will challenge a seasoned flyer with the lower stock motor...

Now I already had one going for a newcomer, and I still had issues on the maiden flight, decked it in the first times, finally got it going, but admit I was in a hurry and had some tape fastening going on as to fly before dark only just received it late yesterday...

Be patient with this one, my battery wasn't cycled, another in the hurry error, as my 2nd flight this early morning at daybreak, zero wind, went up beautifully after reaching airpeed, took off the slightest up elevator setting and flew near 8 minutes at around 85 to 90 perchent throttle, I'm impressed !

It doesn't zoom at all, very friendly easy flyer, may try a loop next flight, enjoying the success on the 2nd flight..for $69, not bad...<>..

Was getting a question on the COG Center Of Gravity, is about 1 3/4 inches, just under 2 inches, felt slightest tail heavy, but with the effort it takes to get this one airborne, you really don't want it nose heavy at all...

I prefer the very slightest up elevator, just barely up, don't go overboard here, with right sticks it will handle flush, but the clutz flyer I am, need all the help I can get...

I cut the power inflight incase I ran the motor out, which I did ! Keep it flying, drop the nose just slightly to keep things flying, then try to flare at the last, I ended up in the grass for safety, and course nose up on the landing but soft...was great...

Wish you luck on yours...be patient....<>...

Note newbies, if it doesn't fly right off the bat, don't be discouraged, it takes some effort to hold things level, and don't do any turns etc till it reaches airspeed, it has to go out aways, only then slowly do the slightest inputs..use max throttle, it needs it ! After airborne you can reduce speed but for me it was very slight reduction, kept it near 90 percent throttle...

Tho I made one take off with the other flyers Exceed from the pavement, I liked the hand launch much better, if your new to all this have someone else toss, don't let them throw it up, simply straight out, nice firm toss, keep that nose down and wings level, eventually you'll make it !

[phillipmorris]

Tho only just over 1/2 dozen flights can say from my experience with this one...

We have two of these with the other flyer, so assume they all are likely to fly the same...

1. Do the hand launch, extra height on release, it needs it !
2. Max Throttle all the way, did hold well at 85 to 90 percent throttle crusing
3. Does have some glide to it, but requires lowering the nose slightly to keep airspeed on any deadstick landing
4. I'm still concerned on newbies getting this one in the air, it takes patience to reach airspeed before doing the turns
5. Once in the air it behaves very normal, no suprises, do easy inputs, has near trainer behavior
6. Personally I would have a seasoned pilot launch this one for you, its tricky to get airborne at the start..tho I think some newbies just might pull it off...
7. Be sure and cycle the battery on receipt, run it all the way down with the motor, it takes near 3 hours to become fully charged with included charger when depleted, but don't let it overheat, will become slightly uncomfortable inhand at max charge, nicely warm is fine...
8. If your able to get this one going, its worth the low $69 investment...
9. I used very slightest up elevator, but flush works as well, just a preference..your option

BEST ..<>..

Couple notes on how it behaved for me, it wants to stall but will reach airspeed if you keep the nose level as well as the wings, if your turned too soon, which is likely on maiden, it will nose down on you or turn into the turf, you simply didn't give it enough time to fly out for airspeed...mine drops about waist high before making airspeed, leaving little room for error...easy on the inputs and again if the battery is cycled, eventually you'll make it..take your time...if you have trim and balance correct it will reach altitude after reaching airpseed, keep a comfortable height and lower the throttle so your ready for any power cut off, dead stick landings for the seasoned pilots are easy, behaves well, again drop that nose for airspeed and flare near touchdown..

COG and corrent trim is important for any plane, this one needs about 1 3/4 inch mark from the leading edge, out of the box both required nose weight, as received the balance was nearly half way from the leading edge not even close to the plus or minus 30 percent on most flyers..

So how far till it reaches airspeed, times may vary, but past a baseball infield is about minimum, just beyond that is about right, sounds like the normal flyers except this one again to me is slightly underpowered except when airspeed met, then all is well...Super Cub example has power to burn and takes off the pavement well under 20 feet, this one needs alot more, do the hand launch tho to avoid stall at least during the maidens...

[phillipmorris]

Worked yesterday but managed an afternoon flight, was breezy, winds just under 10 MPH but flew pretty well, actually hit some lift and had to concentrate on it not reaching too high an altitude, flying in a slightly tight area but managed to keep it close, winds kept me from doing loops etc, still a fun flight, some onlookers watched and the litte daughter really enjoyed seeing the yellow bird fly, on landing she promplty came over and let her carefully pick the plane up, but she didn't want to let go, perhaps a new flyer in the making, was charming...<>..

[phillipmorris]

baron2010
Likely your having some effort on flying this one, the real secret is getting the blame thing to reach airpseed before hitting the turf, as the take offs on mine are rather low and again leave little margin for error, I flew again this morning and after the battery started to run down, like to completely cycle it down, anyway did a launch with it as the battery ran down and it was really low and didn't gain much altitude tho I was simply draining the battery, so its indeed a handful on the take off, but once airborne, nice smooth flying with correct inputs, tried a lazy loop at altitude and wasn't the strongest but did make it, fun knock about plane, but I'm getting very skeptical for getting this one to speed on launch for the newbie, not easy at all...BEST ..<>..

Don't feel bad at all if you keep having issues, as even seasoned flyer usually fail on the first attempts as shown in many of the youtube video's, best flyer I've found is the Super Cub, some like slow sticks, etc, but the Super Cub was and still is my all time favored ..<>..

Lost count on the number of times my Exceed decked in on the maidens, partly in a hurry, and not a fully cycled battery, but the real effort is to let it fly out quite aways before makeing any turns etc, and its out very low least for me before reaching airspeed..<>..

[baron2010]

Thanks for all input on the cub phillip, as it happens I have not had
a chance to fly yet...mebbe late today....just enuff wind to scare me
away from trying rite now...but I dang sure appreciate all your experience
you are sharing!!!! Will let u all know when I get to try it!!!
thanks again...
don
edit....my field is next to cemetary LOL..and today is a funeral, so out of respect I don't try to fly!!
don

[phillipmorris]

Wait for good conditions for the maiden, you certainly don't want too much wind....

Mine behaves as follows:
Do the hand launch into the wind, have the slightest up elevator but thats your option, flush also correct, tendency is to pull up as it settles, huge mistake, let it fly out and it likely will drop around waist or even knee level, let it go out keeping the nose and wings level quite aways, past the distance of a baseball infield, then and only then do the flat turn minimum inputs, if all is well will gain altitude...the launch is the most difficult with its required distance to reach airspeed, then all is normal...wish the best ...

[phillipmorris]

Still learning:

For a fun inexpensive plane, really enjoying this one, flying it all stock, motor isn't the most aggressive to say the least, but just enough for a docile flyer...

Trims are improving, nearing flush now on launch, very slightest up elevator, then trim it to level inflight, for others flush elevator is indeed correct, simply your option, later can reduce throttle slightly to extend flight times, however maiden and first flights keep it full throttle for easier handling, believe still below 10 minutes but not bad for a knockabout....did two loops one sideways the other complete, barely made it, not into stunt flying with this one but cute to see it pull it off...looks are rather impressive inflight, after use to its habits, made nice low flybys..<>..neat..<>..

Fine tuning the launch, its still straight out as you should, but slightest push off underneath to gain over head higher altitude on release, absolutely no nosing up on the throw please, helps on the low angle take off and long flight to reach airspeed. Keep this one going out quite aways before inputs, even fools the experienced flyer as shown on several youtubes..<>.

Very smooth flying tho slow on the speed, I believe an asset for the newbie, just go easy on the controls, do flat turns, slight up elevator for level turning as expected..

Only fault is the low angle take off and motor isn't the strongest, but it pulls it off making a very fun flyer, and the price, your going to find hard to beat, $69 complete..I have no issue with the slide throttle as had these with many of the other low cost trainers, right stick functions nicely, all complete package, thumbs up but I would still suggest an experienced rc flyer to get this puppie airborne, the only issue on this neat little guy...

Important to have this one trimmed right where the experienced pilot can help you, COG both planes were tail heavy out of the box likely as yours will be, simply add some nose weight, COG Center Of Gravity location seems to be around 1 3/4 inches from the leading edge, don't go nose heavy as this one needs all the help it can get to make airborne, but don't go too far back as will lose control...<>. BEST ..<>..

[baron2010]

Dang it phillip, I can't get the winds to settle down so I can do my
first test flite GRRRRRR:mad:....but I'm sure glad you are posting your
experiences with this little guy!!! still cloudy and windy here, so just
have to twiddle thumbs LOL....
thanks
don

[phillipmorris]

Your correct on waiting for better conditions...

Yep, new plane and bad weather is the norm...when things settle often at dusk or dawn you will have the least winds..you want below 5 MPH if possible...later when your use to the handling and more experinece flying, you will eventually be able to handle some winds, but hold off for the maiden..<>..BEST ..<>..

[phillipmorris]

Wow, weather here behaving well, slightest breeze at daybreak this morning, doing the underneath push off for altitude but still authority throw straight out, strongly suggest you do simply the straight forward release maiden tho, with the slightest up and slight uppush on release done correctly it goes above head high with the nose level, now have the trim near flush, w/minute up elevator trim not even noticeable, bingo !! with the increased height on release absoultely no stalling going out as it reaches airspeed, still needs to go out quite aways before the turns etc...is a slow flyer, but looks again are impressive on the low passes, its a keeper !! I still land in the grass with the easy nose up, nearing the hard pavement landing, but I'm playing it safe for the moment...nice flyer for the low investment ! BEST ..<>..

[baron2010]

Phillip glad you are having fun with the plane, my winds still too iffy
for me ...5 to 10 mph rite now again....just cannot get a break!!!
I'm just not ready to chance it in this kinda winds....later..
don

[phillipmorris]

Nope you want it down even below 5 MPH, hope your checking during daybreak and evening as eventually your best chance....

This isn't a sporty plane at all, but fun easy going guy, Super Cub is far better, but for the price this ones fun, and actually enjoyed the challenge of getting it aloft.

Its also durable, tho my newbie finally cracked his front fuse but easy repair, even mine has slight rear fuse crack but simple clear tape fix, getting to reach airspeed is still the concern on the first ventures, let it go waaaay out...BEST ..<>..

Pssst, later on after several flights it does handle up to 10 MPH winds, usually go side to side, it really kites head on, if winds are smooth its fine, but please hold off, be very cautious here, first near 5 MPH ,next 7MPH and I wouldn't go much over 10MPH with this bird..

[phillipmorris]

Just out before daybreak, winds below 3 MPH, nice flight, nothing fancy, only a side loop, but now did the risky pavement landing, suppose to be somewhat a pilot here, but landings always need work, flew it out aways after well over 5 minute flight, left light throttle, simply let it come down puff of throttle if needed and it did a slight bounce but nice easy in the parking lot landing, no dew on the shoes this time...

Note last evening conditions exceptional, one of the flyers has two Super Cubs, and replied let put both these up at the same time, I said heck yes, as three flyers here, why not put the Exceed Cub up as well... I headed further in the field for the long airspeed run to get airborne, they launched from the pavement, and away we go, the Exeed went as high and even higher than the Cubs, likely had some lift conditions, it was really great to see them all going at once, Exceed flew alot slower but still loads of fun....BEST ..<>..

[baron2010]

Well, finally got the nerve and no wind to try mine outabout 530pm, and flopped completely :red: I walked across street to my "field" and carefully check
radio, plane, rudder, elev, and all seemed okay....first pitch straight out,
plane at max throttle, made about 20feet then dived in right hand curve to
the ground!! 2nd pitch straight out, did the same thing only quicker...ended
up breaking prop, and foam split just ahead of where wing fits into plane...
I have a spare prop...patched the break with heavy packing clear tape...will see when I can try again...discouraged!!!:{
LOL
don

[phillipmorris]

I've decked in both of these models, my friends as well as mine and each have some cracks on the learning phase, mine behaved exactly as you experienced on the first attempts, possible you need some nose weight, but recheck the balance, both of the models required front end weight...

Not there to help you, and trust me wish I was, it's not the easy one to launch, only a guess here but sounds as the nose may be rising slightly on you, perhaps not, mine was abit tail heavy is exacly how mine behaved on first attempts, both models of these we had needed some nose weight, should balance just below 2 inches from the front leading edge, sweet spot is near 1 3/4 inches...

Please don't feel bad at all, this model even fools the experienced pilots with its low take off...

I keep mentioning slightest up elevator, is simply my way of flying, flush on the elevator is actually correct, microscopic up shouldn't hurt too much but and any up elevator be ready to nose it down slightly inflight..

For it to turn on you as described, it has yet to reach airspeed, its going to drop abit even with the best straight out toss, just concentrate on keeping things level, nose and wings...

My flights are all reaction, light pulses for any correction but let go of the stick to keep things from overcontroling, pulsing the stick sometimes cures the overcontrol delema...

Hold on any control is usually not over 1/2 second..

More sim practice never hurts, but nothing in there to prepare for this long gradual take off...it will go up for you, but as a newbie so much to learn...

Study those prior videos, note how it creamed in for even the 3D pilot and tho extremely entertaining he's no slouch, took the 3rd launch to get it up, he finally let it fly out before and last makes airspeed...its a fooler, I enjoyed the challenge, again this is its weak link, but if you do pull it off, its a beauty to watch inflight...check your trims, make sure all is flush with the trims in centered position, check that rudder, mine had a tweak one direction...BEST ..Hang In There..<>..

[phillipmorris]

On my launches its a firm toss but straight, let it settle, I pulse it any direction needed to keep it level, watch that nose it likely will raise or go down, important to keep things level with micro imputs, if its turning on you and these are only suggestions, you might have let a wing drop too far, if the nose rose prior to wing drop it simply stalled on you...for it to turn and drop its stalling, to keep things flying watch all the angles as it goes out, eventually you'll have it balanced correctly and correct trim, it will slowly go out but don't do any manuvers till its out quite away, then and only then slown do the flat turn and if all is well will gain airspeed and slowly some altitude...inflight its pretty stable, getting airspeed is the trick on this one...BEST ..<>..

[phillipmorris]

WATCH ITS SPEED DURING LAUNCH, FORWARD MOVEMENT MUST BE CONTINUAL OR STALLS !!

On Launch watch that forward speed, slightest nose up may not be noticeable to the new flyer, but the stopping of forward movement during launch is the dead giveaway your in for a stall !!

Another clue, watch its forward progress, if it stops during the launch, example isn't moving forward your entering a stall, newbie may not even notice the slight upnose position but the stop in mid air is the warning here, in this case you drop the nose ever so slightly while watching those wings keeping them level, a wing drop is usually from a stall...

All I'm attempting to warn you is it has to keep moving forward at all times to make the launch, watch for that slow down into the frozen stop, this is stalling...<>.. prevent this by lowering the nose ever so slightly for airspeed....I sometimes find myself microscopic up and down pulsing the nose, minimal inputs all the way out for airspeed, with things trimmed correctly it will go straight out but low for quite aways...inflight its slow and easy to manuver after mastering things...<>..

If you let it freeze in the air its too late, she's coming down, remember how the first flight went and all the inputs made before the turn and drop, burn this in memory, its a learning progression..<>..

So how do you prevent stalls, takes experience to see it coming, slowdown inflight is your best warning, if things slow immediately lower the nose very slightly, your already low so not much room for error here...sometimes mine has some speed but is nosing down, pulses of up elevator, very minimal to keep the height or your in for the stall, PAY ATTENTION TO ANY CHANGES IN THE FORWARD SPEED !!...<>..

BEST ..<>..

[phillipmorris]

Also warning be sure the nickel battery is cycled, you do this by running the motor down with the throttle on till things stop, new battery is required to cycle it down, then full recharge with the included charger takes near or just over 3 hours if the battery is correctly depleted, you'll have more power and longer flight with a cycled battery, cycling it is a must...<>..

The included charger does not have a cut off, you check the warmth by feeling the battery, nice and warm and its charged, don't let it get hot..<>.

[baron2010]

Phillip, thanks for all this input...gonna check the plane over again this am and see if wind stays down for another try, got tothinking last nite, I need
to take the cowl off and see if motor is okay as it hit pretty hard, right on
prop, hence the damage...no need for charge as it didn't run more than 5 seconds LOL....I won't give up till it's either in the air well or complete trash can material !!!!:Q
don

[phillipmorris]

You'll have your share of issues on this one, just concentrate on what happened during the last venture, and decide what you will do different, its a steady learning pattern that goes on, you learn alot from errors...simply don't repeat them the next outings..<>..

Recall ways back on my first outings, flew a heavy 2 meter sailplane called a Top Cap, fast build with a solid wing but nice glide, took in those days nitro with a .49 and pod mounted on the COG at the top of the wing, produced some drag but not bad, can't recall how many misshaps I had even with assistance, but eventually able to fly...

Well I was out this morning at daybreak, about near only 2 MPH winds, calm, do this push off launch, is still straight out with everything level, absolutely no nose up, its the basic straight ahead toss with pushing up the center at end of release, ends up going over head high, watched it and it dropped only head high with the help of the minimal breeze, still have to let it go a long ways out for stable airspeed, slow flat turn and it steadily climbs coming back, my elevator is microscopic up, not hardly visible, as flush really correct, just my way...got further altitude tried an inverted but no go it really dropped, went right back up so nosed aways straight down and nearly pulled off a regular loop but a bit of sideways on completion, normal for this bird...lowered throttle at times but needs near 80 percent, putting the elevator flush or even near slight down gained speed with max throttle, but its a slow guy..pretty watching it fly over the rising sun...decided to land, obstacles as back stop in my line to land in the wind but cleared parking lot has some size, had it low on the turn, required some upstick as expected, came straight in lowering the throttle and even off for short period, dropped too quick so minimal throttle, and tap more to flare, nearly landed perfect, but bounced again only slightly, just missed the perfect landing but smooth...BEST ..<>..

I strongly suggest you land this one in the grass on the maidens, it will nose down at the stop and likely flip over, but is normal, only thing is times the flexable blades need a slight prod to put them back inplace..minimal adjustment...better to land on a carpet of soft grass, than to scrape parts off the pavement landing, later when your comfortable can go for the hard surface landings...

[phillipmorris]

First attempt at Night Flights for sometime, the Exceed launched fine with the slight push up and straight out toss keeping all level, didn't drop much, fingers crossed as it went out as plane tho just visible was blending into the background, made the shallow turn and still max throttle it gained altitude, lowered throttle a tad to keep it reasonably low for best view, some challenge on the turns as lights blinked but no suprises, the lights showed as kept things fairly close, I flew just over 5 minutes as wanted power incase needed for the landing, came in the grass only 5 feet away, Exceed handled fine...

Was late dusk, used these celebrity lights left over from year back, now not available as before, twist the bulb and they light with self contained battery, just bright enough for a visual, I tip mounted only two, one light taped to each wing tip and extended for max view, needs more lights but didn't want to over weight the Exceed Cub...

Accomplished this before with the Super Cub, you have to pay close attention on the controls as easy to lose orientation on the near dark sky, later you can pull it off in complete darkness with practice...

One of my friends had luck with the Sky Fly, abit faster than the Exceed, but also has a low take off, both worked great for Night Flying...both low cost investments....BEST ..<>..

Note you do the Night Flights after mastering your trainer, and do early dusk first and gradually work up to the complete Night Flight...unbelieveable fun !!

Here's a video that got me started with the Super Cub Night Flights, similar except I ran into the Celebrity lights, dang, now hard to find..enjoy the video..

From experience will say the Super Cub will handle the best, but any easy trainer as the Exceed Cub and Sky Fly indeed work as well..<>..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIIHsr2w_iQ

Even these ring lights can be sometimes abit much to find but online only thing is to find the best price...have used these types of lights and indeed work rather well, velcro or tape them on and your ready to go...self contained batteries..

http://www.houseofrave.com/ultra-led-finger-lights.html

For serious Night Flyers there are some other amazing lights out there, just how much you want to spend etc..<>..

[phillipmorris]

This time the Night Flight, 5:30 AM well before daybreak, nice 3/4 moon and sky full of the brighter stars, launch was easy, a lit parking lot behind, both hinderance and aid, hard to describe, only two lights shined well on the wing tips, 2nd turn went too far out and losing the visual, plane started to come down, below waist level managed to find its way back without hitting the turf, then back and more altitude all was well, tho this Exceed is a slow flyer tracking these twin lights seemed to zoom around the black night sky, turning alot to keep it well insight and orientation, was great, felt I owned the cosmos, several minutes of pure delight last landed in the grass, need more lights to tame this one, but really a treat, nothing like it ! ...BEST ..<>...

[phillipmorris]

Night Flights are fun, but managed to ding a blade, still have a replacement one as comes with extra prop..meanwhile ordered some ring led high intensity lights from eBay, $13 for over 40 of these, not bad, different colors as well, hopefull will work, each has its own internal batteries, cool...BEST ..<>..

[baron2010]

Glad to see you still having fun with this plane...I'm out of action
a few days due to messing up my back :blah:...hope to try mine
again in a few days...have fun...
don

[Lancifer]

That plane looks like crap...sorry to say but i wouldnt spend the money on that!! Hope you can it to fly Baron!!

[phillipmorris]

Its all in the eyes of the beholder, its a bargain basement plane, many out there a whole lot better, but none that I'm aware complete RTF for $69, and it does Night Fly, so thats the name of that tune, I'm really enjoying this one even with its low angle take off...rather bash in Night Flying $69 than plus $300, Hah...

But understand what your saying, for me the Super Cub wins hands down..

Thanks for your input ..<>..

[phillipmorris]

Baron2010
Hope you feel better later on, take your time and be patient for good weather, long take off and don't let her stall...

Did a pavement take-off this morning, actually checking the replaced prop, does the low angle lift but not bad, I still prefer the hand launch...take off went as follows, took most of the parking lot for it to gain airpseed, full throttle, tracked fairly decent slight rudder corrections for straight line, then took off by itself, left the parking lot below 6 foot elevation, but on two turn arounds makes decent altitude and you can slightly lower the throttle, not strong on landings but decided for the pavement, after all this near a throw away investment, it dropped alot without power, so gave pulses of medium to low throttle leveled things and pulsed again for the flare, nearly perfect landing, tiny bounce, but thats better than average for this lousy flyer, all smiles..<>...

If you later decide to do night flights, you want a docile flyer at the start, this one fits the bill easily, and your not out much investment on any issues.

This one certainly may not be for everyone, but I'm really getting my moneys worth todate.. Fun Ahead !!


Lancifer
Hope you can it etc, thats funny, so far been a keeper indeed, again Night Flights here we come !

[micro_doc]

I have this plane from another (China) supplier..I tried many time to get it in the air...not much success..I removed the 380 canand mount , screwed on a 370 geared yellow box from a Parkzone j-3 (part # PKZ1128) that I had laying around...WOW what a different plane...this thing flys great with a 9x7.5 eflite prop.Will cruise at half throttle and climb very well..this is now one of my favorite planes to fly...very stable..also pretty fast..can loop and snap roll quite well...maybe I should add ailerons ????

[phillipmorris]

Whoops, double post..

[phillipmorris]

Great job on the mods, I also had a time getting this one airborn stock, but now after use to its handling and long take off, an easy task...

Maiden flights ours decked in as well, infact check the videos in this blog and they all simply manuvered too soon, as up elevator or turn, then down she comes, simply let it fly low and straight out longer and you'll have success even stock...

Here's a cute video of another model with simply adding led lights for Night Flying as I'm also doing with the Exceed Cub, use only two lights on the wing tips at present, more on order, later will check out and see how many lights it can handle stock..<>..

Again Great Job on the mods, Thanks Very Much for your input, happy to hear your enjoying yours !!

Here's another Night Flight Video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIOvJpMaAlI&feature=related

Best..<>..

[phillipmorris]

Fun Night Flight this morning, low breeze, fortunately no fog as yesterday...Exceed Cub flys beautifully under the star lit and moon sky, amazing how fast it moves when your following just the lights, and this Exceed does fly slow, really satisfied with its easy handling in the air, cut throttle slightly, pulse more power when needed, turn frequently for best visual as only two lights on each wing tip, still nice, can't wait to add the colored intensity lights when they arrive....

Check the above night flight video, has a nice glider model slow flyer, but note how quickly it travels in a complete dark night sky...very pretty...<>...

[phillipmorris]

Group flying, have four of us that now fly together, enjoying the cheaper planes for the night flights, one has a sky fly, also abit low angle on take off but more power in the air, slightly faster than the Exceed Cub, he lost signal for some reason during the night outing but it managed to fly around a building for a near perfect landing unscathed...very lucky..night flight prior to that one of his wing tip lights popped off, somehow managed to follow it and made a decent landing, have no idea how he pulled that one off with a single light to follow, hah ...

The Exceed now had 3 lights with a red one centered at the bottom gave a nice pattern with the two clear wing tip lights, nearly total darkness with no parking lights, somehow managed to land it upright in the grass, last time dinged it in slightly losing a prop, kept it closer on the touchdown, still learning..BEST ..<>..

Comparing these two inexpensive models, the Sky Fly tho faster gives abit longer flight times, but zings out abit further with the slightly faster speed..

The Exceed on the other hand makes closer turns with its lower flight speed, both make decent altitude..

The Sky Fly has a better glide deadstick without power, you can nose in the Exceed Cub for speed, but pulsing throttle helps for flare on the landing with the Exceed..so the Sky Fly advantage with better glide, Exceed wins with lower speed and closer for easier night view..both do very well for night flights..<>...

[baron2010]

:blah::{:mad: Well here's how I feel this am! i went out few mins ago, finally wind was down to almost zero....3 hand launches, 3 severe right hand swoops right into the ground....last one left the whole damned front end busted entirely off....grrrrr...and I know my trims were all set properly...only thing holding the front motor section on was the wires themselves...not too confident this can be repaired...not sure its worth it after all this...color me very unhappy....maybe I should go back to my avion io...LOL...
don

[phillipmorris]

Our newbie flyer couldn't launch his either, so please don't feel bad, only wish I was there to help...again note on the early posted videos, these veteran flyers dumped the Exceed in at least twice, And They Have Abit Of An Idea On How Things Fly...Again the launch is its weak link, I shuddered when I found out how it handles on launch, takes alot of patients on the stick to reach airspeed but to get there requires prior flight ability far as I'm concerned, so Please Don't despair, its just not easy to get this one started...You need a pilot for this one, and he likely may drop it in at the start, its a fooler..<>..

I'm not there to actually see, but from my errors, its does require stick to keep it level, if it feezes at all in the air its stalling, even with the trim correct, you need the right stick inputs, making it a trial for the newbie...if it wings over again stalling, needs slightest minute correct sticks to keep it flying, once it reaches airspeed, very docile flyer..but getting there is something else with this bird...

Your going to need assistance on this one.....sorry on the early trials, but its all part of the learning period, this plane isn't going to make the launch easy by far...

My inputs are as follows, now I'm use to this bird, takes a slight authority throw, weak toss its dumps right in, next your likely to need rudder and correct elevator to keep it straight and flying else again she dumps right in, if you get the feel and keep it flying not nosing up or letting it stall by wing dip etc, continue to let it fly out, will be low, concentrate on holding things and after out aways lets say past a baseball infield is minimum distance, do a very gradual flat turn and minimal up elevator, if it reached airspeed it will respond, too quick on the stick and she drops again, after one turn around it should be flying, it will reach nice altitude and after use to its handling can lower the throttle slightly still at least 80 percent, its not a strong motor by any means...hope some clues here for you, but its a tuffy to get it started...<>..

I really like the Super Cub, as plenty of power, you will have trials as a newbie with it but it will take off much easier than the Exceed Cub, its 100 percent easier to fly, and reason its on the top of the list for beginner planes, I loved mine...also enjoying the Exceed Cub, but its a handful at the start as your experiencing...

Hang in there, our newbie keeps crashing his Exceed, but has several minutes of flight time on it, but loads of fixes, I still have to launch his for him...

Again you really need a pilot, indeed wish I was there..<>..

[baron2010]

Hey Phillip...yep wish u coulda been here LOL....the way this thing acted I have to think something was not set up rite in it...I'm thinking maybe the motor was not properly mounted...I did not even get the chance to get on the 'sticks' after a level toss..it just went immediately to the right and curved into the ground....I'm not gonna fool with it any more this year...pension not gonna allow any more "fun" stuff for rest of year LOL...maybe I'll buy a new
fuse for it next year and try again,,,or maybe go back to my avion LOL...
happy flying!!!
don

[phillipmorris]

Well dang, was hoping it was fixable...

Takes a lot of finess to pull of a maiden toss while holding the controls as the same time, its better if you have someone else give the firm straight out toss so your always on the controls, this one takes some stick all the way thru the launch phase...and again takes just above a medium toss, my newbie tossed his the other night while I had the controls, but too soft on the throw and she dropped immediately, so lots going on with this one...requires a firm toss...

Some have better luck with the pavement take off as hands always on the controls, but this one takes a long run to make it into the air, but is possible, accomplished the pavement take off twice while into the breeze...<>...

But trust me, know how you feel, I have a graveyard of models that never made it past the maiden...eventually you'll get there, takes persistance, its indeed a challenge at times..<>..

Some Of My trusted flyers todate...

AirHogs Biplane, these flew so well right back into rc flying
Super Cub, dinged this one in numerable times but flew with tape fixes, later night flights
Radian Sailplane, off the charts, thermals even in winter, my favored todate..
FlyForFun Thunderbat, 80 MPH of fun

Helis
Eflite MCX Coaxial, super stable micro flyer
Quark Fixed Pitch, expensive but flew great
Blade 400 CP, hovers and side hold, still leaning on this one
Blade MSR by Eflite New FP Fixed Pitch, MCX with an attitude, only had it one day, terrific, zippy indeed !

[phillipmorris]

Before you go out and buy this one be aware are many far better, but for the price its hard to beat, do strongly advise a seasoned pilot to launch it for you at the start and even they may have issues letting it fly out far enough for airspeed, but after your use to its low angle of take off and long way to get airspeed, it becomes a very easy flying docile flyer, and one of my top picks for Night Flights as such a low investment, it indeed works great great....

Now use to its handling, absolutely no problems getting this one airborne stock...

Newbies without help, advise the Super Cub, it takes a good ding but better power for easier take-off and handling etc....

Meanwhile still enjoying the Night Flights...Waning moon well before daybreak with star studded sky, it was increadible...nothing like it...

Also this dang new Eflite Micro MSR Heli has me busy, near a beginners stability with an attitude compared to docile coaxials, this MSR is a HONEY...so it goes..BEST .

HAVE FUN !!

[micro_doc]

Snapped the nose off mine too on the first 5 or 6 launches...What i did was cut up some small pieces of foam to fill the hollow nose..poured in some gorrila glue..taped the nose back on...very strong now...I launch with a good fastball throw and let it climb out very gradually..I have 2 of these..one stock..one upgraded to a 370 geared setup..the stock one flies well once it gains speed and altitude...the geared one flys much better..
also the tail snapped off a couple of times...I carved out a channel with a soldering gun..from the battery tray to the tail and added a carbon spar...this thing is very durable now...good luck

[phillipmorris]

Thanks for all your info, great your able to fix and keep it flying...

The tail on mine also broke but was a simple tape fix, we have crashed the newbies plane more than once and its going to need about the same work, as his last outing tore up the nose rather well...his first plane and did make flight time so actually doing rather well, just have to get past the learning curve....

My launch is close to a fastball toss, it certainly does need an authority throw, but straight out is important, have been able to do a slight lift on the toss with everything holding level, works very well with any breeze going on and holds altitude above head high on the launch....

This one is again a good candidate for upgrading, but enjoying mine stock, as its slow flight is an asset during the nocturnal experience...<>..

BEST ..<>..

[phillipmorris]

Nice early AM Night Flight well before sunrise, impressive sliver thin Moon and Venus nearby made a nice background with cloud haze, only two wing tip lights, waiting for my ring led intensity lights from eBay, as 48 colored ones for $13 ! Not a bad price, want to mount one on the bottom center fuse...<>..

[phillipmorris]

Even better this morning hope you caught the view as Venus and Sliver Moon were right next to each other, impressive background, but air had some turbulance tho near calm on the ground tree top level leaves were waving and the Exceed responded with lots of stick to hold the wings level during most of the flight, took 90 percent throttle or more on this flight with the stronger breezes, wings dipped frequently not a smooth flight but manageable long as we stayed alert, after landing in the grass, checked the placement of the lights and were off slightly on balance, but the unsettled air was keeping me busy...BEST ..<>..

[phillipmorris]

Only reason I purchased this one is its attractive $69 RTF price, thats rock bottom ! And was introduced to this one via a newbie, I hated the long take off required, but later very easy to do and simply let it fly out aways before inputs. Now losing count of the number of flights as enjoying the nocturnal experience with these ring intensity lights protruding on the wing tips, its fantastic fun ! Still enjoying it stock as great for these night flights low speed and stays close for a nice visual, handling is near trainer once airborne...I'm enjoying it.

Even a seasoned pilot could have issues on this one, so if your a newbie find one that has flown lower class planes as Sky Fly, as also has this similar low angle take off...

If you can pull it off for only $69, hey its great...<>...

Here's an informative video showing how not to try the pavement take off, waaay to short, it will make it with longer run into a light breeze easily, shows it stock but has a DX5 transmitter, found the transmitter given in RTF package fine, if your use to the slide throttle as provided in many of these cheaper planes, works fine for me, he does get it to fly rather well, good job..<>..believe I posted this before, but worth the look..<>..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9klmAQvga-Y&feature=related

[phillipmorris]

Update, still flying nocturnal with the Exceed Cub, certainly getting my moneys worth of fun, it did pop down on me as in a smaller area last night turned quickly to avoid small trees and turned around into the ground but level, no damages..amused as realize now how it handles, so up she goes slightest down wind tho near calm still made airspeed and up she goes for around 6 minutes of fun, dead of night landings are the concern as only a few lights on this one, brought it in close and tapped throttle as flared, slight roll over on the nose and easy landing...so its a fun ship but don't forget the long take off needed for airspeed, hardly a zoomer and now very easy to fly, but I still say its not a beginners ship unless he has loads of help from a seasoned flyer, and then one with patience to realize the handling...they use accomplished flyers on most of the videos on the selection of planes, but the youtubes on this one are very accurate on getting it to fly, as nearly all turn too quickly and down she comes, so watch them carefully and better chance of getting this one to fly...once in the air its a very easy flyer...<>..Wish all the best...<>..

[phillipmorris]

Abit breezey the other night flew the Exceed but failed to get it up with the gusts and it turned and nearly made it but is a fence in the center of the field and made contact, broke a prop, no biggie, should have another shortly...

Nothing to do with the Exceed Cub, but flew this friends Cessna Flyzone, has ailerons, very twitcy guy, we made couple successful flights with it, another flyer we talked into flying it started ok with loads of inputs to keep it airborne but it wasn't behaving well, coming down to the grass it was too high so the pilot gave throttle for another go around and it came right at us having to duck to avoid contact, no visual it made it hard into the pavement, some front damage but not too bad, much more difficult bird than the Exceed so far...<>.. BEST ..<>..

[phillipmorris]

Thank you very much for your input...

Your very much correct, but doing this one stock, defintely turned into a challenge, but is a $69 flyer if you can master the take off, in the air, normal...

It is fun to do mods, but if you plan ahead for this, really better to buy the Super Cub...

Lipo, Not a bad idea at all and likely necessary for some to fly this one..but I was intrigged by flying it all stock, tho very low and long take off it indeed does fly and all for $69 is impressive..but its a handful at low power, certainly...<>..once airborne tho it flys normally, issue is getting there flying as received... my later posts finally broke a prop flying at night in a crowded park with fence etc, have the replacement but yet to fly this one recently..now tied up with this amazing Hanger 9 T34 Mentor, it flys terrific and fast take-off, but its the airliner landing with flaps and droops that makes it a super model, really enjoying it...my landings are not the best with these warbirds, however, entirely different with this ship, its more than a beauty, my #1 plane at the moment, but pricy, fly a warbird before taking this one on as more money here, but one answered my post was a newbie and actually maidended with the T34, but help from a club and buddy box, he was also impressed with the T34, increadible...BEST ..<>..

The Exceed with caution, its the price thats nice, if you can handle low take off stock
My favored birds and I have loads of others, but my tops are:

Fun with this Exceed, challenge to make airborne as received but $69, nice, caution needs long takeoff
Super Cub, Start with this one, A top trainer, later into night flights
Radian Glider, brushless motor, newbie should have a pilot on maiden, 1 hour flights
Hanger 9 T34 Mentor, wow, progressive beginner settings, even I can land this one ! Need prior Warbird experience unless outside assistance, its a winner !

[scott-p]

I bought this plane and while I was waiting for it to be delivered, I found this forum and read all of phillipmorris posts on it. Thanks for the good reading. I have never flown before so after reading the whole thread, had in my mind when I got to the field exactly what I needed to do.

I wanted to take off from the ground to minimize the height. I figured the closer to the ground it was, it wouldn't take as big a hit when I screwed up but it was rough and it bounced all over the place making it impossible to keep in a straight line. I finally went to the football field and threw it. I got lucky and after it left my hand it went out and started to go nose up just as I read so I was ready. I pushed it back down and it leveled out and I held it there!!!! WOOOOHOOO I was flying my first plane on the first try!!! I flew it around and had a little trouble when it got far away figuring out if it was close to objects, like goal posts. But managed to fly it for about 2 or 3 minutes. Problems started when I went out of my slow circle to the left and went for a right hander. I had no wind this morning but it must have been blowing some because of the adjustments I was having to make goin east and west. Must have been a slight breeze from the north. I had the little plane coming straight at me when the wing kicked up from that breeze. I went for the adjustment but since it was coming straight at me I guess I got disoriented ad turned the wrong way. It went immediately spirialing down from about 30 feet in the air. Guess what...I think its totaled. I rippied the whole nose off and the wing also. I don't think I can fix it. haha... It was real fun while it lasted though. I was supprised I made it that long. I'm hooked now. I have a friend thats pretty good at this stuff and next time I'll go over to his place and practice on his little light stuff. I ordered a supercub today and crashing from here on out is out of the question. haha Any ways, thats my 69 dollar story. I'll keep reading and practicing and I might even post about my 2nd flight.

73's scott

[wingspann]

Scott:

Before you give up on it, see Micro Doc's post above. It's probably repairable if you have some packing tape and Gorilla Glue. It would be better to repair this one and get a few more crashes out of it before you tear up the new Super Cub!:Q

Also, if you don't have a simulator yet, you should get one. It can save you a bunch of money on repairs.

73
John
KB5JDT

[phillipmorris]

Scott:
Well dang, you did better than seasoned pilots on youtube, my hats off to you getting a first flight...it is absolutely horrible getting airspeed, but you did it, WOW !!

Yes, it might be fixable, don't let even a seasoned pilot try it as likely won't get it airborne but you did the homework, fantastic...

Super Cub handles alot better, your in for some fun...

As mentioned Please Get A Flight Simulator, even the Free FMS will get you started, a control box for $25 and your set, its helped me even with the unruly helis, better to hit reset than damage the plane, your in for it now..are certainly better sims out there but this will get you started indeed ...

FMS FLIGHT SIMULATOR CONTROL BOX
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSJR9

JOB WELL DONE..

[phillipmorris]

Dang, still can't believe Scott pulled that one off all by himself, tho rough landing...


Are two points for orientation issues that gives newbies fits as myself at the start, when the plane comes towards you controls reverse, are 2 tricks frequently used by beginners with success are the following, and indeed helped me...

On the planes approach coming towards you things reverse, simply hold the transmitter behind you and watch the plane over your shoulder, controls are now back to normal without the reversal issue...

Another trick is to simply move the controls towards the down wing, example again the plane is coming towards you with controls in reverse, if the left wing drops simply stick towards the left wing till level, if the right wing drops, stick to the right, advantage is you don't have to hold the transmitter behind you, instructors usually lean towards this method, but at the start whatever works best for YOU ...

Couse again the flight simulators will improve things and help tremendously on any orientation issues...

[scott-p]

I'm definately going to try to fix it. Theres plenty of extra styrofoam on the box it came in. I need to go to town, probably monday and get some of that gorilla glue stuff. I know I've seen it before. Might build it back with just a smidge more front end weight though. I cant wait to fly it again. I'm going to wear it out before I put the super in the air.

The friend of mine that talked me into this has several light weight planes and I'm going over there early in the morning and try to fly some of his little ones. He said something about putting his p-38 in the air so I cant wait to see it fly either.

at any rate, I'll try the same thing micro did and hope it is airworthy when I get done. Sure didnt look air ready spiraling down to the ground earlier today. haha:roll:

I can only thank phillipmorris for all his pointers. He said it would stall and it will. You have to be ready and quick to nose it down and level after you throw it because it happens so fast.

73's de KE5AST
Scott

[phillipmorris]

Hang in there, keep us posted, do wish you had a simulator for orientation as helps loads, Only The Best...Your Doing Great ..<>..

By the way,
DE WB9DNR, CUAGN ES Happy Halloween !!
WARREN

Added Note Scott, be carful on adding much to the front weight, can improve stability but this puppie takes awhile to get airborn, too much front end and it likely won't fly, so go easy there...

[scott-p]

Well, I fixed it...and crashed it and fixed it.haha had more fun than I was supposed to. I finally flwe it till the battery died and wrote a friend an email about it...heres the story...

Hi Ken!!! I have the apprentice and the other two little cubs going and wanted to fly one today... Heres the story of the YELLOW one we crashed at your house. haha

Well, in the days following that "crash" day I fixed the plane and have been waiting on a prop. I finally went to the hobby store and got one I thought would work. It did. I went out today and through it off my 2nd story balcony...I thought it would give me some extra height since it was so under powered...it did!!!

I flew it for a long time out over the neighborhood getting alot of altitude and alot of confidence. Problems started when....hehe....I was coming twards the house . I'm standing between two roofs so when I came across to low...... I lost sight of the plane on the other side of the house. I usually wear rubber soled boots but today I had on leather soled cowboy boots, so when I tried to run up the roof to get higher, I was slipping pretty bad up there. I finally saw it wayyyyy up the property going at a stall and tried to fix it but the little plane wouldnt respond at all. Guess what...I flew it till the battery was dead. I killed the power and let it fall.

I looked for the plane for 8 hours steady I couldnt find it, dang cedar trees. Although my daughter said it was only 30 minutes...you know how kids lie!!! haha Well I found the plane with no damage so its going to get a check out and charged battery and go again

It was so fun flying that long I cant wait to do it again. I have the other cub ready and the apprentice ready to go to. I cant wait to meet up and fly this stuff. Give me a hollar and maybe we can hook up saturday morn if the wx is ok.

73

Scott (KE5AST)

[phillipmorris]

Dang again, two successful flights on this touchy to launch Exceed Cub and he does it again, a raw beginner and your making us all look bad, stop it, hah... Thats absolutely fantastic, who knows your just likely to land it....

At last put my extra prop back on and eventually will try the night flights again hopefully in the near future...have to admit this model has proved very intresting todate...

Gads your onto flight #3, certainly deserve loads of credit, well done !!

DE WB9DNR 73'S...<>..

Pssst if the battery goes out on you next time hopefully you'll have some altitude, simply keep slightly down nosing it for airspeed and you just could pull off a deadstick landing, heck you've done everything else correctly so far...as I started with sailplanes nearly deadstick all my models, this one doesn't glide super but it will keep flying with some airspeed even w/out power, good luck !!

Another note when the battery runs down and the motor stops your correct on lowering the throttle all the way off, the elevator and rudder will still respond, after several seconds if you again had altitude, with the motor not running the battery will recover slightly enough for a few brief pulses of power, USE IT IF NEEDED AT TOUCHDOWN, lasts only few seconds of bursts but the motor will respond !!

[scott-p]

phillipmorris (http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/member.php?u=15992) You had the thread going about this plane and I thank you for all the advice and trial runs you posted. I've got alot of monkey glue on here but it still flies. For instance... The first flight the whole front end came off and monkey glue put it back on. The second flight it hit hard and the third flight the whole tail section broke off. Monkey glue again!!! that stuff works good. 3 props later and I had it way far away from me at 200 feet up and having a blast. My daughter said I looked like I knew what I was doing.hahahaha

I got another cub and ran it into a mailbox on take of...very little damage.. will fly again no dought, and then went and got a e-flight apprentice which I have together but have not tried to fly yet. I'm going over to a friends house to get it in the air first. I'll get him to take off and land and I'll fly for awhile and get the hang of it. This is too fun!!!

Thanks!!!

[phillipmorris]

Apprentice is a wonderful flyer, I was in too windy conditions and we are getting it back together, nice size, also found a nitroplanes FMS version 55 inch trainer at $149 hardly wait for it to arrive as defintely want to night fly this bigger bird...

Back to the Exceed Cub your doing so great I'm very happy for you, so shows a newbie with some knowledge of what to expect can definitely fly this one, but again caution with its low angle take off for airspeed..otherwise a definite value trainer if you can pull off the tedious launch...

Best to you keep us posted please..and glad you found some info here for success, again well done...

73's WB9DNR...

[scott-p]

Here's the first crash. I totally fixed it and it flyes great now. Had another good flight yesterday...still having fun and getting my moneys worth

[phillipmorris]

Nice pic, yep thats an easy fixer, again I did manage to break the tail section but simply taped it and flys fine...extremely bad weather lately high gusts and rain, still did manage a flight with the Exceed Cub, waaay to windy but had to fly something, with all the winds going on it launched beautifully flew sideways to the wind helped but huge gust took it and it did an unplanned loop getting close to the ground, gave more down elevator and able to recover, but had to land early is such heavy winds, cut the power and down nosed but wind so strong barely able to keep it from fliping over and did last drop to the turf but level, no damage, tuff bird for what it is..when the winds calm will continue with the Night Flights...Happy ThanksGiving To All..BEST ..<>..

[phillipmorris]

Gads weather finally settled abit, flew the Exceed Cub and handled very well with near zero wind, noticed the tail is getting lose from the windy landing the other day, still easy flyer now...as mentioned incase your looking only at this last entry here on this thread the Exceed Cub needs a long take off, I prefer the hand toss into the breeze and let it fly out well over an infield distance before any turns, too early turn and it simply decks in, after tedious waiting for airspeed it behaves near trainer quality and is a fun ship, it deadsticks rather well, so flew the battery out and dipped the nose to keep things flying and flared in the short grass, slight nose in the turf but leveled at the stop, hope to keep it in once piece for later continued Night Flying as days are now so short...Newbie likely will have it nose up on him early on the take off, be ready and downstick slightly to keep it level, it usually needs some up elevator hold as certainly underpowered on the launch, but if you make it inflight it behaves rather docile and a fun beginner attempt, I still hesitate on newbies trying this one without outside help especially with the low angle take off required..as already mentioned this one will try a seasoned pilot on the maiden, youtubes videos are loaded with first failed attempts, amusing...BEST ..<>..

[phillipmorris]

Note Nitroplanes has this beauty of a deal for a trainer RTF FMS 55 inch span for now reduction of $129 on this weekend sales, mine should arrive monday, will post if it works out etc..yet to fly this one, specs simply look fantastic for the $$..

Did the Night Flying, as been awhile and part of the reason for the purchase of the Exceed Cub, it flew very nicely moments ago, two intensity light protruded from each wing tip with simple tape fix, have to keep things close, I would suggest some dusk flights before tackling this but its indeed fun, and if it does deck in have the minimal investment going on as Exceed Cub $69 RTF amazing even tho underpowered...

Did a slight aggressive toss, nothing brutal just not a weak toss, have held momentary up elevator only as needed, keep the tips level, full power, takes again well over an infield to reach airspeed and only then do any turns...Night Flying, its really loads of fun but only after mastering your trainer of choice, nothing like it..challenge is to keep the orientation by viewing these two protruding lights, again keep her close ..very rewarding...<>..

Note several have upgraded this one but I enjoy tackling it stock...after all how can you beat the price...<>..

[tennmoto]

I broke my fuselage in 2 places.I kept gluing it together,now I am trying to order a new fuselage but they're out of stock. Anyone know how long they take to get in, or is this a long supply line problem.

[tennmoto]

thanks for the reply but its an exceed j-3 cub and they are not in stock