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tobydogs
04-07-2010, 04:05 PM
once again a question thrown out to all!

what servos do you use the most,the servo market is HUGE!!!!and so many have diff issues with diff use's.:rolleyes:

i need servos for a 3dhshop 42"slick...servos for this bird could cost between $10-$45....yikes!noone wants to spend more than they need to. if we shared experiences on the tried and proven good servos out there.we may just save someone from making a big error[me]...lol.:Q

i don't want us slamming products but please share you favorite servos and what you use them in....we'll all learn something from each other,most deff the beginners in our hobby.:ws:

:Dmy favorite servos are hs 485's[improved 475's]that i use in my sport planes from 40 o 60 size....the gp extra i built won't be flown very hard as those servoes might be less than the plane deserves.these servos center great and are strong for my flying needs.they cost around $17

2nd favorite is hxt 900's,use these in my smaller birds with 35"ws to 48" park flyers.not sure these would work in the 42"slick as i plan to mostly fly radical sport areobatics....maybe 3d by years end....but not right away.

not to slam ,but the hs 81's had electric issues with twitching and centering....i'v removed them all and nolonger replace gears any more.

so again my friends "whats your favorite servo,and what plane do you use them in?"

thanks,stu.....note due to servos improving over time i only seached threads going back to 2006 for this topic,may have missed one so feel free to post a wf link to other treads.


http://www.bphobbies.com/img/hitec/485hb.jpg Size (L x W x H): 39.8 x 19.8 x 38.0 mm (1.57 x 0.78 x 1.49 in) Weight: 45 grams - 1.59 oz Weight w/ Servo Wire: - Ball Bearings: Top BB Metal Gears: Karbonite Gears Torque (4.8V): 66.65 oz in Transit Time (4.8V): 0.22 sec / 60 deg Torque (6.0V): 83.32 oz in Transit Time (6.0V): 0.18 sec / 60 deg

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rcers
04-07-2010, 04:53 PM
I am a big Hitec servo fan. For my 42" Edge I used HS-45's and LOVED them. I also like the HS-65's in that size airframe. The 65's are one of my all time favorite servos - they are beasts.

I too have used some of the HXT 900's they draw a fair bit of power so make sure your BEC is up to task. It is hard to fight with price. I have never really used them on a plane I really cared about.

I am also trying the new Hyperion Servos on my 3DHS 57" Extra 330SC. Setup only so far but I am loving those - a great deal better servo than the recommended HS225's and only a few bucks more and they are digital.

Mike

crxmanpat
04-07-2010, 05:03 PM
My favorite servos are:

HXT900 - for most of my parkflyers and larger pusher jets. They are a good robust servo, and best of all they're cheap! :D

HXT500 - for all of my mini park jets and smaller indoor type flyers. These servos center pretty well, and I have not stripped one yet, even after having them go through a crash.

Both of the HXT servos are available on my website for less than the Hobby City USA Warehouse price (the HXT500 is not even available from the USA Warehouse).

EMax ES08A (standard), ES08MA (metal gear) and ES08MD (digital metal gear) from www.bmkdesigns.net (http://www.bmkdesigns.net). These are good servos that center well and have lots of torque. The ES08MG would work well in your Slick.

MaxAdventure
04-07-2010, 05:48 PM
I'm currently focused on the following common servos:

HXT900's for small and fun models

HS65 when I need small power

HS225 when I need standard servo in a small package

HS5625 or S9252 when I need high speed/high torque

HV8717 when I need big power and speed

I've really been embracing the Hitec 65's and 225's as great all round servos. They fit so many models so well.

Larry3215
04-07-2010, 06:11 PM
In order of model size, my favorites for bang for the buck/quality/reliability are:

For micro sizes the Dymond D-47 4.7 gram servo is a tad pricey but unbeatable on performance. There are some new micro size digitals coming out from Futaba and others that look promising but I havent tried any of them yet.

Hitec:
HS-55
HS-65

I really like all of Hyperions new digital servos. The combination of quality, speed, power and cost - all with digital precision - is unbeatable. They have sizes that range from the HS-65 up to the low end of the giant scale market and the prices are at about the same cost as non-digitals of the same size. A heck of a deal.

For heavy duty giant scale use, the Hitec titanium series are still my favorites. HS-7955 etc and the HV versions.

rcers
04-07-2010, 06:54 PM
I've really been embracing the Hitec 65's and 225's as great all round servos. They fit so many models so well.

Any issues with the 225's centering?

jasmine2501
04-07-2010, 10:09 PM
Any issues with the 225's centering?

Nope... but I had one stop working once for no apparent reason at all :)

Use those on my Trex 500 - they work good.

I'm a Hitec fan... for small electrics, I love the 55 - must have 30 of them in various places. The 65 is good too, and for the Slick I might use a 81-82

There is no substitute for quality - I know guys who use only HK stuff... they are the ones who show up to the field every weekend with a selection of beat up planes and no real clue why their stuff isn't reliable.

gramps2161
04-07-2010, 11:57 PM
Myself I have been using the Hitec servos the 55's and the 81's. I also use the HXT900 in my park flier size planes. So far I haven't had a problem with the servos. I did have to switch out one 81 servo it was used for a tricycle plane and the gears stripped with my less than graceful landings , I replaced with metal gears.

I have some futaba s148 going in a build. I have never used them, but the plans call for them so they are going in the corsair. Hope these work as well as the rest of them.

thomdoe
04-08-2010, 12:09 AM
I like anything sold by hobby king Great prices and last a long time

RU55EL
04-08-2010, 12:19 AM
In my Trex-450, three Hitec HS65MG servos for the main rotor and a Futaba S9257 for the tail rotor.

In all of my homemade foamies: Hitec HS55 servos

The only problem I ever had with servos was trying to run 4 HS55 servos on a 1.5 amp BEC. I installed a CC 10A switching BEC and never had another problem.

tobydogs
04-08-2010, 12:31 AM
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cyclops2
04-08-2010, 01:08 AM
HS-55 is all I use in everything. Never a problem. Ancient servos.
6 in the 80" A-10.
4 in the China Clipper.

Larry3215
04-08-2010, 04:52 AM
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Ive had mixed results with the Blue Arrow and BMS servos. Some ok some not. They seem to be so-so quality wise and QC wise. About like the HXT servos in my opinion. Not worth the money saved.

Ive had terrible luck with the Corona servos and will never use them again.

tobydogs
04-08-2010, 01:43 PM
so far this thread has shown hitec servos are the most popular brand ,supriseing to me is not a single mention of futoba brand????????wouldn't futoba $ hitec be like toyota and nissian????[equals in bussness]????or do the futobas have issues likee toyotas......:Q.

larry,thanks for answering on those 4pack deals that looked to good to be true....lol....temptatioin is great where saving $$ is concerned....but what a shame if i cheap out on the slick and it only flys once due to equipment failure.

the other popular servo here so far is the hxt 900's,these amaze me for $2.99 at hobby king and i'v had more issues with my hs81's and the hxts still run great. to be honest ,i have to pull a hxt out of a herr mini sport1 due to twitching.....but it's old and beatup on the ailerons.works but has to go the way all old servos should go.for the price it served me well.

i also want to thank everyone for sharing.....the slick will get hs82'smg x4.
as the hxts900's won't due with the stress of hard flights.


http://www.bphobbies.com/img/hitec/82mg.jpg (http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id=V825783&pid=C0746436) HS-82MG Micro Metal Gear Servo (32082S) (http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id=V825783&pid=C0746436)
47 oz/in @ 6.0V, .10sec, 1.2x0.48x1.2 $21.99

it will be the better chioce for me as the hs65mg's cost $35.

stu

rcers
04-08-2010, 02:37 PM
i also want to thank everyone for sharing.....the slick will get hs82'smg x4.
as the hxts900's won't due with the stress of hard flights.


HS-82MG Micro Metal Gear Servo (32082S) (http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id=V825783&pid=C0746436)
47 oz/in @ 6.0V, .10sec, 1.2x0.48x1.2 $21.99

it will be the better chioce for me as the hs65mg's cost $35.

stu

Those are FAR too large/heavy for the 42" Slick IMHO. Not even sure the holes can be enlarged that far.

You don't need the MG 65's I have been running the Karbonite 65's since release with no slop or stripping. That includes in my MUCH larger Aspera.

You can get those for ~$25 or near $20 on sale. My LHS sells them for $21.99 all the time. MUCH better choice - trust me.

Just my $0.02

Mike

crxmanpat
04-08-2010, 02:41 PM
Go with what Mike said. The HS-65 karbonite's will work just fine in the Slick.

gramps2161
04-08-2010, 03:21 PM
I have bought from these folks great prices, and cheap shipping.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HITEC-HS-65HB-HS65-KARBONITE-BB-Micro-Servo-Futaba-JR_W0QQitemZ380147733596QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadio_C ontrol_Parts_Accessories?hash=item588292145c

tobydogs
04-08-2010, 05:39 PM
thats a very good price gramps,i think it will be ebay.....:ws:...thanks mike and pat for your advice means more to me than just 2cents,its value is worth a saved plane from defective cheap servos the market has to offer...lol.

a question off topic,would you guys use the slicks pull/pull system for the rudder,or the fuse mount in the tail section with pushrod??

seems to me the tail install would be easyer but the slicks set up to do either way. does a pull/pull make it better???? i'v never done one before.

stu

cyclops2
04-08-2010, 06:23 PM
Pull - Pull ALWAYS guarentees perfectly equal control deflections in any direction. More importantly, It DOES elimanate the danger or control surfaces from ever BUZZING at higher speeds. Like a unexpected dive that goes to fast. It is so easy to install. & cheap. 10 pound test BRAIDED fishing line. Cheap Wallmart stuff is perfect. A control horn is Epoxied into the hinge line of the surface.
I always drill out the horn holes a bit oversize to make sure the Braided Line will go thru easily if the end is just wetted and squeezed to a point.
I run a long piece thru the servo arm holes then thru both surface holes.
At this time I temperoraly tape the surfaces so they are in neutral. I also turn on ALL the RC controls and set the trim levers to neutral. I check that the directions ARE CORRECT. If not correct that.
Right now the line ends are ready to be tied together with about .5 to 1 lb of TENSION. Do the knot where it is very easy to tie it with the tension. Do not tie ANY KNOTS to a control horn hole !!!!!! Out in the open area.
Take the tape off the surface. Do a carefull TOTAL THROW deflection test. If to much or too little. PICK the TEMPERORY knot apart in the OPEN AREA. Restring the line thru the holes & test till you are right.

Final knotting Is NEVER done. ALL you need is all the RC on EVERYTHING IN NEUTRAL. A ... 1/2 drop...of CA is applied to the string along the UNUSED HOLES. Do the gluing on the servo arm & the control arm !!

Done.
Print this out & read it untill you really understand how simple this is.
IF IF you do not trust the glue to be able to handle the pressure loads. You CAN put a 1/2 loop in a hole on both servo arms that IS NOT the last hole the string goes out. Use a unused inner hole set.

Edit Why do I NOT WANT TO USE THE LAST string hole ??

The glue WILL STIFFEN the thread and case small error producing throws.

cyclops2
04-08-2010, 06:35 PM
Braided fish line takes paint great. Test some on the line................
DO NOT paint the line next to the hole !!!! Remember. It CAN ALSO STIFFEN the line at the hole. I tape the line carefully at the arm hole. Then spray as you like.

Yo do have to pierce the body to allow the strings to pass thru. Make the holes like a lazy Idot. Spackle in any hole area after the lines run freely.

Piece of cake after 1 or 2 planes.

ministeve2003
04-08-2010, 06:37 PM
HXt900's are by far my favorite servo...
I've used them in everything from 42" balsa 3d models, to 100mph jets (and chong used them in his 124mph gws zero)

hitec hs65's are a bit better on the pecision, but unless you run them at 6v they can be very slow... I've also seen some centering problems when using them on a larger model's rudder... (even with pull-pull)

Here's a video of hxt900's in my old eflite funtanaX 42" balsa 3d plane on 4cell and a 10 size motor... that should give you an idea of how well they'll do... I had over 250+ flights on this before I finally put it in doing something very stupid...LOL... ok, ok... it wasn't ment to tumble 2ft off the deck....LOL...

after I put it in... I gave it to AL's son, who rebuilt the nose, and flew some more with those same (original) servos....

this video was with a 11x4.7sf prop
http://www.vimeo.com/4236472

this is with a 12x6e prop
http://www.vimeo.com/1943406


SK

rcers
04-08-2010, 06:59 PM
a question off topic,would you guys use the slicks pull/pull system for the rudder,or the fuse mount in the tail section with pushrod??

seems to me the tail install would be easyer but the slicks set up to do either way. does a pull/pull make it better???? i'v never done one before.

stu

Pull/Pull for sure. Ben has good instructions or even better than that watch Kevin's videos. He will walk you through step by step.

Here is the 42" Slick build videos:

http://www.vimeo.com/5144658

They rock!

Mike

ministeve2003
04-08-2010, 07:00 PM
Those are FAR too large/heavy for the 42" Slick IMHO. Not even sure the holes can be enlarged that far.

You don't need the MG 65's I have been running the Karbonite 65's since release with no slop or stripping. That includes in my MUCH larger Aspera.

You can get those for ~$25 or near $20 on sale. My LHS sells them for $21.99 all the time. MUCH better choice - trust me.

Just my $0.02

Mike

I also Ran Hs65's in my Aspera, they were a great match for that plane... (although I would have liked a hs82 on the rudder as cermark does)

Hs82mg's are usually 21.99... So if you need a decent mid size servo... look at those...

SK

ministeve2003
04-08-2010, 07:02 PM
Pull/Pull for sure. Ben has good instructions or even better than that watch Kevin's videos. He will walk you through step by step.

Here is the 42" Slick build videos:

http://www.vimeo.com/5144658

They rock!

Mike


They're build video's are the bomb... thats actually the number 1 reason why I bought my first velox and aspera from them... I liked those videos...

SK

ministeve2003
04-08-2010, 07:04 PM
for a model I don't care much about, that uses mid size servos... like a stryker... I use vigor vs3 servos...HK $5 each...

SK

ministeve2003
04-08-2010, 07:56 PM
I don't use, nor recommend Hs55's... They are slow .17 (even at 6v .14) and weak 1.1kg... and tend to strip gears very easy... and at $13... I cant justify the cost...

SK

Larry3215
04-08-2010, 08:06 PM
HS-65HB's for $19.95

http://www.centralhobbies.com/radiosNservos/hitec/hitec65.html

Laggard
04-08-2010, 09:22 PM
I don't use, nor recommend Hs55's... They are slow .17 (even at 6v .14) and weak 1.1kg... and tend to strip gears very easy... and at $13... I cant justify the cost...

SK

Agreed. I find them no better than $4 TP servos available from many fine vendors such as Hobbypartz.com or Hobby King. I've also read several stories of them (hs55) failing in flight.

RU55EL
04-08-2010, 09:52 PM
Agreed. I find them no better than $4 TP servos available from many fine vendors such as Hobbypartz.com or Hobby King. I've also read several stories of them (hs55) failing in flight.


"servos you use most,tried and recommended"

So what servos do you use and prefer?

MaxAdventure
04-08-2010, 10:34 PM
so far this thread has shown hitec servos are the most popular brand ,supriseing to me is not a single mention of futoba brand


I listed the Futaba 9252 as a choice servo for higher demand applications. Of course I listed it right along with a hitec ;-)

I just picked up a set of 9252s for a new 600mm heli based on how popular they are, but I don't have that much experience. The thing is, a servo is a servo is a servo (unless we're talking about some old proprietary like old Airtronics and even older Cirrus, etc) - they all work will all the receivers these days. (give me a break on the size extremes with proprietary connections) Hitec just manages to undercut Futaba and has proven to be a good value. AFAIK JR and Airtronics are still favored in competition sailplanes. You just need to ask the right crowd. I know JR and Futaba are popular in 1/8 scale off road use as well.

My take on metal gear: it's a waste of weight and money unless you have a specific demanding application. Metal wears faster too, so you'll develop slop if it's a model you fly a lot. I'm running metal gear 5625's on a heli, because it was the norm and my first big heli. I wouldn't buy metal gear again for cyclic. HB65's are great in karbonite, and I've NEVER stripped a gear. Ironically I did managed to get a rudder HS81 to strip in a sailplane on a bad landing, reinforcing a common complaint their gears are too light. I did swap in metal for that application.

Just for reference, I've stripped a couple of HTX900's, and as the gear set is less than $1 US, I still replace the gears. I think the only other gear stripping I can think of is in a Futaba 9254 when I had a carbon 600mm blade hit the servo. Had to replace the case on that one too, but the servo is fine!

I'm surprised there isn't more Hyperion mention, but I guess it's the forum. I'm sure you'll get a different answer depending on where you ask this same question.

RU55EL
04-09-2010, 12:00 AM
Huh, I also mentioned a Futaba S9257, my only digital servo, for the tail rotor on my Trex 450.

Larry3215
04-09-2010, 12:29 AM
Futaba and JR both make top quality servos. No question on that. But they are not cheap.

Hyperions new digital servos are, in my opinion, the best deal in RC on servos at the moment.

But they still aren't cheeeeeeep enough!

Face it guys, in this forum at least, cheeeeeeeeep is the god of RC :D

tobydogs
04-09-2010, 12:34 AM
OOPS!sorry:o i missed the futobas..lol...i have to say gramps ebay site $21 and $2 shipping still looks to be the best bet for hs65's,larry's site is the same when you balance out the$8 shipping.both good deals.as much as i like the hxts i think the slick will like the hs servos alotmore.[as if the plane cares..lol]

cyclop2,thats a great discription of "how to" do the pull/pull,it's what i'm going to do.thanks my friend.the slick has the center servo mount ready built in and i think it come with the hardware to do either install.

steve,out standing vids of the funtana my friend!!!still ,i thought the hxts were alittle twitchy........you were trying to fly simple oval patterns...right?:Q................very cool vids!

rcers,those assembly vids show how much better support 3dhs want to give it customers.i watched all 4 vids before ordering and can't waitfor the bigbrown truck to ring the bell. thanks for that though my friend...you and steve think alike with posting the build vids:tc:.

hi max,i think a valuable lesson i got from this ,is the thought that metal is better than karbanite gear is a myth....i asked guys a my clubs meeting about servos last month .they said for 60 size 3d you don't go cheap ...they spend a fortune and i said to the group'are my hs 485's alright for how i fly?"all agreed theyer fine....just depends on whos flying hard and if your bird costs $3000.00 you might considder spending more for better gear.very good advise. i'm going with your thought to use karbonite gears.thanks for your input my friend.:)

clearly i should post a assembly thread with pics when this bird go's together:rolleyes:...all 3 or 4 hr's of it...lol....stu

RU55EL
04-09-2010, 12:45 AM
...I'm surprised there isn't more Hyperion mention, but I guess it's the forum...

I'm such a newbe! I never even knew Hyperion made servos...I guess I've got some reading to do.

cyclops2
04-09-2010, 12:49 AM
That the only instruction manual left, is for the uncompleted GWS F-15.:{

cyclops2
04-09-2010, 12:54 AM
HS-55s work perfectly. IF you do not overload them in the 125 mph Stryker.

They do fine in the planes below & all GWS foamies.
The A-10 has 4 in the 4 seperate tail surfaces.

RU55EL
04-09-2010, 12:55 AM
What servos do you use and prefer, cyclops2?

[edit]Ya beat me to it. What do you use in the 125 mph Stryker?[end edit]

Sir Crash-A-Lot
04-09-2010, 01:45 AM
Like Pat said earlier, I like the Emax series of servos as well. I have GWS Pico, GWS Naro, Hitec HS55, Hitec HS65HB, Hitec HS81, and Hitec HS82MG's currently in use also. Just due to the price I don't really prefer the Hitec series but all the servos hold up to my level of expectations. GWS servos have held up EXTREMELY well for me over the years and some are coming up on 10 years old, only ever replace a couple gear sets. The EMax servos perform just as well as any of the above including the Hitec HS65HB. I can tell you after a couple crashes on the nylon gear Emax servo the gears have not stripped yet. They seem to be an equal to the HS65 but a whole lot cheaper.

I sell all the servos I mentioned in this post so I do have a choice on which ones I use and I have to tell you I don't notice the difference using the Emax over the Hitec servos.

Mike

Link is in my signature.

jasmine2501
04-09-2010, 05:17 AM
HS-55s work perfectly. IF you do not overload them in the 125 mph Stryker.

Yup... I've got a couple planes here that I've been flying for 3-4 years, and a lot more 55s on other stuff, including a Blade 400, and they work fine. Only problem I've ever had is when my dog stepped on a plane, and all it did was strip the gears, and it worked perfectly with new gears. The only time I've had any signs of wear on a 55 was with one that is a couple years old, on a very heavily used plane, and the servo just started to jiggle a bit near the center. I replaced it, no problem... at only $10 from the right place, the 55 is my preferred workhorse - I don't use them if I need a lot of torque, but for small electrics, they work fine.

http://www.hobbyhorse.com/hitec_hs55.shtml

CarpenterDave
04-10-2010, 10:04 PM
I'm liking the 3 Futaba S3114 micros that replaced some HS55's I had.
I have 2 of them on the ailerons of my Blade Dancer. The other one is on a foamy's rudder and tailwheel, no problems from all 3, over 300 flights to date.
$14.99 at most places. Stronger and quicker then the HS55's.
http://www.servocity.com/assets/images/S3114_Servos.jpg

tobydogs
04-11-2010, 03:59 AM
i ordered 4 emax mg's that i put a hold on due to the size that had me wondering if they'll fit.i should have checked on whats size is ok for the slick.i don't mind trying them out but i need to get the right size now for this bird and not just stockup.

3dhs recommends the hs 65's ,this is the specks in mm's ...

INCLUDES: (1) HS-65HB Micro Servo
(4) M1.7x7 servo mounting screws
(1) Two-sided servo horn
(1) One-sided servo horn
(1) M1.7x3 servo horn screw
(1) Four-sided servo horn



SPECS: Length: 0.92" (23.6mm)
Width: 0.45" (11.6mm)
Height: 0.94" (24mm)
Weigth: 0.38oz (11.2g)
Speed: 0.14/60 @ 4.8V
Output Torque: 24.99 oz-in @ 4.8V

COMMENTS: For replacement Gear Set, order HRCM5014 (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXMTD7&P=V).

23.6mm x 11.6mm x 24mm


this is the size of the emaxs....would they be to big for the slick?

http://www.valuehobby.com/images/products/editor/20090427092811614.jpg

32mm x 11.5mm x 24mm

the emax is closer in size to hs 82's,but much lighter.
some one here said the hs 81&82's might not fit.any suggestions as $84 for hs65's is to high ,whats the servo that will be reliable ,strong and most of all affordable $40 emaxs shipped seemed good ,so what about the size?

any suggestions keeping price in mind,sorry for possibly sounding cheap but who here isn't watching their purse or wallet?

thanks.
stu

[not much in the mood for smilie faces...a good friends mom is sick here at the WF.lets hope she does well!!.......as for me and my wife we'll pray for her.]

Sir Crash-A-Lot
04-11-2010, 04:54 AM
Don't ask me why but for some reason Emax included the servo screw tabs in that 32mm measurement. I edited my site to just show the case size which is 23mm or 0.9 inches. The HS65 is also 32mm or 1.25 inches if you include the servo screw tabs.

The HS65 and the Emax are very close in size and I might swap the Emax into my Katana MD so I can use the big control horn they come with on the elevator.

Mike

tobydogs
04-12-2010, 05:03 AM
thanks mike ,looking fowward to testing them out.i'll be sure to post results soon:).

good news to any who read the ps note on my last post.hanks mom is fine!!!!!!!still in the hosp ,but doing much better!!!!!:Q:ws::).......thats a good reason to smile:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D;-)

ministeve2003
04-12-2010, 06:50 AM
Hey Mike, How are the emax es08md servos? I really like the specs... do they seem to be similar in precision to hs65's ? they seem a bit stronger... at least by specs... (I do wish they'd have used a four hole servo case though)

http://www.bmkdesigns.net/emax-es08md-servo.html

SK

ministeve2003
04-12-2010, 07:12 AM
I've also been looking at these, but they're out of stock...

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10977

D933MG

Sir Crash-A-Lot
04-12-2010, 03:25 PM
Hey Mike, How are the emax es08md servos? I really like the specs... do they seem to be similar in precision to hs65's ? they seem a bit stronger... at least by specs... (I do wish they'd have used a four hole servo case though)

http://www.bmkdesigns.net/emax-es08md-servo.html

SK

I personally do not use any of the digital servos yet but I do plan on putting them in a helicopter I hope to build soon. The guys I know that are using them really like them though. Just don't let them chatter if you use it for a retract servo or they will burn up just like any other servo would.

Mike

ministeve2003
04-12-2010, 06:07 PM
I personally do not use any of the digital servos yet but I do plan on putting them in a helicopter I hope to build soon. The guys I know that are using them really like them though. Just don't let them chatter if you use it for a retract servo or they will burn up just like any other servo would.

Mike

That's cool, I was thinking about using them in another 3dhobbyshop aspera... no retracts on that one..LOL

SK

cyclops2
04-13-2010, 02:19 AM
In competition they are needed.

Sport flying. No way are they needed.

tom1968
04-13-2010, 02:44 AM
I've had pretty good luck with HS-55s for general park flyer use. Stripped one in a crash and one in a doorway collision (D'oh!), and have one jittery one, out of probably 30+. I tried moving to BlueBird 308BBs with similar specs, but they seem to have a tendency to jump teeth or something. Pull my plane out, plug in the battery - and my aileron's neutral position has just shifted 1/4" from what it was yesterday!! It's not slop, it's nice and tight and slop-free - but it's not where it was. Can't trust them. i'm just headed to the shop to pull two of them out of my just-completed Maxford GeeBee and replace them with HS-55s.

Larry3215
04-13-2010, 04:32 AM
In competition they are needed.

Sport flying. No way are they needed.

I going to disagree with that :)

It depends on the application and how you like to fly and what your goals are.

If you want your planes to feel more "locked in", then digitals are more than worth it.

If you want to be a better pilot/improve your flying skills, fly with more precision, then digitals will help big time.

Digital servos just work better and with greater precision and more holding power than analog servos. The difference becomes more and more noticeable as the planes get larger but it can be flet even in smaller planes.

The difference is that with digitals, every time you let go of the stick, the control surfaces will go back to the same exact place. No slop, no wandering center position no fuss. Perfect centering ebery time.

Every time you move the stick 5 degrees, the controll surface will move the exact same distance - no matter how fast the plane is moving or how many G's your pulling.

You get precise, repeatable, consistent control of the plane - every single time.

Every time you fly the plane it behaves the exact same way even as the battery voltage drops or the temperatures change or what ever.

They also make a world of difference in heli applications. Again, more so in larger heli's than small ones. For 450 size and smaller, I probably wouldnt go out of my way to use digitals. On Trex 500 and larger, no way would I fly analog servos.

Until you've used some decent digitals you can't imagine they would be worth the extra cost, but they really are.

On planes and heli's that use HS-65's and smaller I mostly use analog servos. That may be changing soon as there are a number of new small digitals that have come out recently. I plan to try them as I can aford it. Especially in my smaller heli's.

For anything larger I only use digitals.

Its really worth it to me because the planes are a lot more fun to fly when they do exactly what you tell them to do and do it the same way every time. They really do fly better.

Hyperion digitals are virtually the same price as any 1/2 decent analog servo of a similar size/torque/speed, so why not try them?

My 2 cents :)

RU55EL
04-13-2010, 04:51 AM
In competition they are needed.

Sport flying. No way are they needed.

Do you use digital servos on your Stryker?

Huffy01
04-13-2010, 10:35 AM
I have INO-LAB servo's in my Great Planes Spirit Elite. I can't tell you how good they are but my local hobby store seems to only have INO-LAB on display.

cyclops2
04-13-2010, 10:43 PM
RU55EL

Maybe. :Q
Nahh. I fly it too slow, to need any Digitilas. :<:

cyclops2
04-13-2010, 10:55 PM
Larry

My controls are all PULL - PULL.
The analogs DO got to dead center on the ground & in the air. I do not have any, variation. The deflections are always the same amount.

Word of advice.
A lot of people who see a IMPROVEMENT when they switch to Digitals are also people who have some EXCESS friction in the push rods for whatever reason............DIGITALS WILL push the binding right out the door EVERYTIME.
They DO cover up any binding & make the plane fly better.

PaperAirplane
04-13-2010, 11:00 PM
Hey, Ive had trouble w/ an HS-55 before, but the other one works fine.

tobydogs
04-13-2010, 11:19 PM
clearly digitals have there purpose....but don't they draw more power to operate than reg servos.and if they do draw more power a 4amp ubec would be wise so they are assured power .unless of coarse your using a 6v rx pack.???? would that be true?

so with the slick on a 480eflite park,4 emax servos[mg,not digital.]and a zippyflightmax 3cell 2200mah 20c.......the plush 40ampesc should work just fine without the ubec .....i may get one to be on the safe side.:roll:

stu

Sir Crash-A-Lot
04-14-2010, 12:24 AM
so with the slick on a 480eflite park,4 emax servos[mg,not digital.]and a zippyflightmax 3cell 2200mah 20c.......the plush 40ampesc should work just fine without the ubec .....i may get one to be on the safe side.:roll:

stu

I fly several planes with 4 servos and no separate battery pack or BEC. You should be fine but I do not use the Plush ESC's.

Mike

Larry3215
04-14-2010, 02:09 AM
Larry

My controls are all PULL - PULL.
The analogs DO got to dead center on the ground & in the air. I do not have any, variation. The deflections are always the same amount.

Word of advice.
A lot of people who see a IMPROVEMENT when they switch to Digitals are also people who have some EXCESS friction in the push rods for whatever reason............DIGITALS WILL push the binding right out the door EVERYTIME.
They DO cover up any binding & make the plane fly better.

We will have to agree to disagree on much of that :)

I do agree that its always important to have hinges that move freely and linkages that have no slop, friction or binding. Thats one of my personal pet peeves. I go way out of my way to be sure I have as close to perfect linkages and hinges as I possibly can. No servo can over come bad hinging or linkages.

Using digitals to over come poor linkage or hinging setups is a waist of money and asking for trouble. Fix the linkages first or your largely wasting the best features of the digital. Not even digital precision can over come slop or friction or binding without causing other problems like over loaded BEC's and burned out servos and brown outs.

However, using PULL-PULL doesnt help a servo center any better than using regular linkage connections that are properly done. Centering is purely a function of the servo quality and if it has enough torque to do the job. Pull-pull also has notheing to do with how well a servo holds its position or the precision with which it moves to a specific position.

In fact, its far easier to mess up a pull-pull setup than when using normal rod type linkages. You need to be far more careful with horn placement at the control surface end and tie off point locations relative to the hinge line and the over all geometry.

If you get it even slightly off - wrong Ackerman geometry for example - your pull-pull will either have slop as the surface moves off center or the lines will get tight.

One condition will lead to flutter and the other increases servo loads and stresses the control horns and hinges and servos causing extra servo loads and binding plus stretching the lines - which eventually will lead to flutter again.

Dont get me wrong, pull-pull is great when done properly and in the correct applications. However, its not for those who dont know what they are doing because it can cause far worse problems than it solves.

Properly done Pull-pull is great. So are properly done control rods. Neither one will make an analog servo perform as well as a similar digital servo.

Yes, digital servos draw more power than good quality analog servos. Cheep analoge servos or over stressed analog servos will draw as much power or more.

You need enough torque to get the job done properly. Your plane or heli will never fly with precision unless the servos have the torque and holding power to do the job. So, yes if your flying digitals you use larger BEC's or on-board rx packs. Thats just another part of haveing a plane that flys better.

Im guessing you must not have flown much with digitals or you would not feel the way you do.

I've never ever heard of anyone not loving them once they actually tried them. Especially if you take a set of analog servos out of a plane or heli your already familiar with and install a set of digitals :)

It really is worth it if you can afford it. Hyperions new digitals are so cheep its hard to justify not going digital :)

pattern14
04-14-2010, 02:30 AM
Good servo discussion:) tried about 15 brands of servo's so far, from cheap to expensive. Being primarily a combat flier, and having miserable weather to fly in ( the wind is so strong at times, it has unclipped metal clevis's from horns:eek:) I have looked far and wide. 3 types of digitals have failed the test, as has all the analogue nylon geared ones. The Jr servo's died, along with the hitecs. The metal geared hitcs buzz and shudder after only a few combat sessions. Direct strike is hard on anything, but that is what I do. Surprisingly enough, it is the GWS 2bb mg micro servo's that have stood out. I thought the pico'd and naro's were junk, but gambled on a pair of mg ones. That pair has survived over 50 combat sessions, and actually outlasted the epp plane they were in.::o. I have since bought some mg waypoint servo's as well, but the GWS ones are 1/3 the price and actually seem more robust. They do develop some play, but it is a small price to pay.

rcers
04-14-2010, 02:36 AM
GWS servos are excellent for the most part. The pico's are my favorite all time ~5g servo. :)

cyclops2
04-14-2010, 02:52 AM
STOP landing on other planes!

Use the ground.

Larry3215
04-14-2010, 03:13 AM
STOP landing on other planes!

Use the ground.

LOL!!

crxmanpat
04-14-2010, 04:58 AM
If GWS makes any one product great, it's servos. I love them!

My advice on the Waypoints; don't even bother. Every one I have bought has been junk.

cyclops2
04-14-2010, 01:28 PM
Please post them.

Not to stir the pot up too much.
I have had 2 bad servos in kit planes to replace, out of other peoples ARFs. We are talking about a couple of hundred servos over the years.

More money is supposed to buy more quality & reliability.
Tell that to the latest Lexus screwup on their top SUV model. They have stopped selling them after Consumer Report said , "Do not buy it. It can flip over before the traction control stops the skid / spin. "

Larry3215
04-14-2010, 03:04 PM
True, even quality items and mfg's occasionally have issues. No one is perfect.

To be fair though, imagine if that Lexus was sold through Hobby City.......

It would be called the Letus and they would claim it seated 22 people and got 112 mpg with a top speed of 220 mph and did zero to 60 in 4 seconds - with all 22 people aboard.

The doors would only lock on alternate Tuesdays and would occasionally fall off going around turns. The radios would only play Chinese speaking stations and the CD player would eat every other CD.

The engines would look like exact copies of the OEM version but be made with soft aluminum parts so they wore out after 3000 miles and the exhaust vented into the car through the AC ducting. The transmissions would only shift between 3rd and 5th gear and park would not hold on flat ground.

Oh and there are no dealers to take it to for repairs or warranty service because there is no warranty or customer service. You just throw it away when it breaks.

Of course, they would be 1/3rd of the price of a real Lexus so everyone would be raving about how wonderful they were and be eager to tell their friends how their doors only fell off in their driveways so it wasnt really an issue and how the car was really the best value on the road so why buy one of those over priced models? :D

cyclops2
04-14-2010, 09:50 PM
All knock off, car makes, ARE AVAILABLE in China with slight name changes.

ALL the top names are available.










( except the Lexus SUV ):Q

MadMonkey
04-15-2010, 12:38 AM
After having problems with "certain" servo brands, I switched to using HXT900's exclusively, at least in my smaller electrics. I now have about 40 of them, with a grand total of one failure (stripped it on landing in my Phase 3 EF-16, my fault entirely). I've used them in planes up to the size of my EFlite Mini Edge 540, and haven't had issues with them yet. By far the best value in a servo I've ever seen.

I especially like the fact I can buy almost three of them for the price of one HS-55... and they're faster and more reliable! :D

For larger planes, I'm almost exclusively Hitec, although I did find an HD servo that is digital and MG that is almost a drop-in replacement for the HS-65MG for $19.99. Works great :)


EDIT: I hear a lot of people saying "You get what you pay for" very often. What I don't think people realize is that sometimes the lower prices are what you SHOULD be paying, instead of a 100% or more markup like many retailers sell for. Those who won't broaden their horizons and try the "cheap" stuff are missing out. But... more for us :D

ministeve2003
04-15-2010, 01:39 AM
For larger planes, I'm almost exclusively Hitec, although I did find an HD servo that is digital and MG that is almost a drop-in replacement for the HS-65MG for $19.99. Works great :)


Which HD servo? I'm always on the lookout for a "quicker" hs65 replacement


PS, hxt900's are my fav... (they don't have any doors either... they sell em' like that too....LOL)

SK

tobydogs
04-15-2010, 03:34 AM
PS, hxt900's are my fav... (they don't have any doors either... they sell em' like that too....LOL)

SK[/QUOTE]

hxt's are great buys........what does "doors"mean?:silly:

MadMonkey
04-15-2010, 10:15 AM
Which HD servo? I'm always on the lookout for a "quicker" hs65 replacement

HD2216 I believe. Honestly I don't know if they're faster than the 65's, but they were used in an EDF so it really didn't matter.