G3 Vs. FSOne

[TexasRCFlyer]

I searched and couldnt find a thread about this.
I have been flying FMS for a while now and wanted to take the leap and buy one. I was curious for opinions between FSOne and G3.
I only own airplanes but enjoy flying Helis on the sims. I dont specialize in anything such as 3D or pattern, I just want a good all around sim.

[debhicks]

Well FS One has not been released yet. Being fair here I will disclose we will have that in stock as soon as it hits the dealer doors. So to get a fair evaluation on this flight sim is going to be hard to do. There was something about an issue with the software at a show but I am confident that it will be resolved and it looks like a great sim, will take a really good computer to run and has some of my old stomping grounds as pictures in it. Chanute AFB in Rantoul. :) My plug. But on the serious side it will have all the e-flite craft in it.

[firemanbill]

Well FS One has not been released yet. Being fair here I will disclose we will have that in stock as soon as it hits the dealer doors. So to get a fair evaluation on this flight sim is going to be hard to do. There was something about an issue with the software at a show but I am confident that it will be resolved and it looks like a great sim, will take a really good computer to run and has some of my old stomping grounds as pictures in it. Chanute AFB in Rantoul. :) My plug. But on the serious side it will have all the e-flite craft in it.

When were you in Chanute Deb? I was there in the winter of 81/2 for my fire academy technical school. Went back on several other occasions for various school house tdy's. Moved the Fire School out to Goodfellow when Chanute closed.

I have G3 and FMS and will tell you I love G3, I think it is the main reason my son is doing so well... not to mention the old man too!

[debhicks]

I transfered active duty to Guard all in one swoop in 1989. I was an instructor for Maintenance Scheduling. My husband was a First Sgt.
We got orders to Dyes and he retired, I palace front to Springfield.

I was there for 4 years. We then opened up a CB Shop in Paxton, where we lived, and was around when the base closed. After that I applied and worked and the Lincolns Challenge and was back on the base again. So I kept pretty close there for a while.

We moved to N.C. to take care of family and that is where we re-opened the Hobby business/CB Shop/Vinyl lettering. Just been a big whirl wind.

The flight sim is the only way to go. I did a lot of my flight training like I said on the G2 but we used the Aerofly sim once we got it in as a product and I preferred it over the G2. It seems to give me more R/C flight sim rather than an arcade feel. But that is just me. The FSOne looks like it will be neat and has most of the planes and Heli's we are all flying now. We'll have em when they hit the door.

[jipp]

http://www.hangar-9.com/Articles/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1571

pretty real looking. im out growing FMS pretty fast. this hobbie could get expesive in a hurry. lol
:)
chris

[qdemn7]

The "problem" with FS One is that it keeps getting pushed back and back. For a Sim that looked so good at the show, I'm wondering just WTH is going on. Now resellers are saying "Early October". No doubt it looks fanstastic, but all these delays are telling me it has something wrong, or else the developers are too perfectionist for their own good. :(

[debhicks]

Or they could be making sure it's the highest quality product on the market, instead of having one out there with glitches to get talked about on the internet. :)

Like some of the planes. It is a Horizon trait however if you haven't notices more and more everything coming out of thier hangar that is more on the professional (non toy class) side flight product has taken on a high quality and reasonable price trait.

[raynet11]

I'm sitting on the fence as well I would like a good sim to improve my pattern and heli skills, I have spent a few hours in the LHS on G3 playing with the helis and aside from a few little things the helis give you a real enough response to where you can actually take what your doing to the field, the MX-400 is pretty darn close to mine in the way it handles it will be interesting to see if FSONE is just as good or better then G3 when it comes to the helis , with winter comming up fast along with the winds it brings it would be nice to not have to teach myself to fly helis all over again come spring, I tend to get very rusty with my helis vs my planes if I don't fly every few days.

cheers,
Ray

[PerlAddict]

Can't wait to see this come out. I had thought about getting ReaFlight G3, but I played it at the LHS quite a few times and either I've got more "beginners luck" with 4-channel planes than anyone would ever imagine possible, or years and years of video gaming and flight sims growing up translates to great computer game control that doesn't mimic what I can actually do in real life at all.

Wonder how this will compare to XTR.

On a side note, do you have to use the Futaba Interlink controller to play G3? I thought I saw a package with just the software only the other day for a bit cheaper, but I later read somewhere that the game wouldn't start up if you didn't have a genuine Interlink controller plugged into the USB port, so maybe I was just imagining the software-only box at the store.

[firemanbill]

You have to have the interlink controller . It is the key code to the software.

You may have seen the add on boxes. They area lot smaller since they do not come with it.

Also Perl throw in some wind and you get a lot more realistic sim. When the wind is at zero it is pretty easy to fly any of them!

[jipp]

i just purchased cock pit master. Fun. However, i made a huge mistake all them hours flying in FMS i had the wing set up wrong. When i push the stick to the left the right wing would dip. and vise versa push the stick to the right the left wing would dip. Needles to say I setup the new game and found out quickly of my error. So now im retraining my self. Even tho at first was hard. Im slowy getting it. Just goes to show the you can learn to fly a plane anyway, pretty trippy at how easy we adapt. I bought a computer radio on monday night. so ill spend the rest of the month learning it and practising in the sim.

Hey perl welcome. Im a C guy my self. but perl fun little cryptic tho. lol. well can be anyhow :D

chris.

[raynet11]

You have to have the interlink controller . It is the key code to the software.

You may have seen the add on boxes. They area lot smaller since they do not come with it.

Also Perl throw in some wind and you get a lot more realistic sim. When the wind is at zero it is pretty easy to fly any of them!

The wind makes a huge change, doing some inverted hovering with a micro heli tail in with a 10mph wind will really sharpen you up your skills big time. The biggest 2 reasons I want a good sim are reason one for the life of me I havn't been able to induce or hold a flat spin on my brio and backwards flight on my helis still blows my mind I have dorked it twice ($40 repairs both times) nothing like crunching a pane or heli and just hitting the reset button.. :)

[firemanbill]

The wind makes a huge change, doing some inverted hovering with a micro heli tail in with a 10mph wind will really sharpen you up your skills big time. The biggest 2 reasons I want a good sim are reason one for the life of me I havn't been able to induce or hold a flat spin on my brio and backwards flight on my helis still blows my mind I have dorked it twice ($40 repairs both times) nothing like crunching a pane or heli and just hitting the reset button.. :)

That is a big plus eh Ray?!:D I am the same way. I can't count the number of times I just hit the reset button... repairs are a lot cheaper on the sim:eek: :rolleyes:

[raynet11]

That is a big plus eh Ray?!:D I am the same way. I can't count the number of times I just hit the reset button... repairs are a lot cheaper on the sim:eek: :rolleyes:

There have been times where I have refused to fly my helis just because I didn't have the money to repair them if they went down. Rule of spares, if I have extra blades, flybars, mainshafts, feathering shafts laying around I never crash but as soon as the parts bin is low lookout.. lol..

Same thing with my planes, I am fearless with my foamies since the repairs are simply reach for the epoxy but if it's balsa I fly it like a chicken, with experiance I guess I only have a little over a year under my belt with both fixed wing and helis and I'm sure it would be easier if I just picked one but noooooooo..

Thank you reset button.. :)

[Old Fart]

Gotta love that red "oops" button!

Will FSOne have a Typhoon 3D that randomly strips servos, eats the ESC and binds up the gearbox? :)

[firemanbill]

Gotta love that red "oops" button!

Will FSOne have a Typhoon 3D that randomly strips servos, eats the ESC and binds up the gearbox? :)


lol... that would be too realistic!

Having the battery fall out every now and then would be neat too!:rolleyes:

[raynet11]

Some silly options and features I would like to see in a sim:

Or how about a special glich map filled with radio towers and high tension lines with a timer that records your longest flight while glitching.

The the ever popular random unleashed dog that runs onto the field and tries to eat your foamie.

If flying in a park or school setting random people will walk up to you and ask the typical questions "how high does it go?" "what does that cost?" "can I fly it?"

Throw a few Lipo puffs and fires into the mix as well, what's flying without that?

Search mode, when the plane goes down into the field the sim changes to first person shooter mod and you have to wade out through the weeds for hours to find your heap pile, (timer mode keeps track of your best search and rescue time.)

Yeah , I think that is enough..

[Old Fart]

Add (for us combat wing fliers) a buddy that decides that you're ready for combat. And any GWS model, the landing gear must fall off at least once every (4) flights.

[jipp]

Some silly options and features I would like to see in a sim:

Or how about a special glich map filled with radio towers and high tension lines with a timer that records your longest flight while glitching.

The the ever popular random unleashed dog that runs onto the field and tries to eat your foamie.

If flying in a park or school setting random people will walk up to you and ask the typical questions "how high does it go?" "what does that cost?" "can I fly it?"

Throw a few Lipo puffs and fires into the mix as well, what's flying without that?

Search mode, when the plane goes down into the field the sim changes to first person shooter mod and you have to wade out through the weeds for hours to find your heap pile, (timer mode keeps track of your best search and rescue time.)

Yeah , I think that is enough..


Cockpit master has a map called "dead stick" I was flying 3 feet off the ground inverted and boom.. I lost all power. and crashed. I didnt realize it gives you random malfunctions. and you never know when. LOL. i know its probably not as good as the more expesive SIMS. BUt it sure is fun. :)

chris.

[firemanbill]

Add (for us combat wing fliers) a buddy that decides that you're ready for combat. And any GWS model, the landing gear must fall off at least once every (4) flights.

The occasional wing snapping in half on a beaver model would pretty realsitic too!

[raynet11]

The occasional wing snapping in half on a beaver model would pretty realsitic too!

Or the famous tail snap on the estarter.. :)

But if it's a true sim you only get to fly it on the brushed gearbox paired with their suggested 50mah 2-cell watch battery pack , enjoy your 35 seconds of flight..

20 bonus points will be given for if you can land in grass witout a nose over

30 bonus points if you don't bust the stick mount lol..

I have nick named my A-10 the paper tiger, I float down as soft as could be and it still manages to bust something on every landing, I'm going to start doing what I do with my easystart and I'm going to catch it ,

[firemanbill]

there's a thought... I'd still tear something up...:(

[Doppelganger]

The "problem" with FS One is that it keeps getting pushed back and back. For a Sim that looked so good at the show, I'm wondering just WTH is going on. Now resellers are saying "Early October". No doubt it looks fanstastic, but all these delays are telling me it has something wrong, or else the developers are too perfectionist for their own good. :(

Too perfectionist? The biggest problem with software now is that developers are realeasing "un-polished" software. Were they to bend to the ranting of the masses to get it out, the software would be buggy as heck. Then, all of you folks complaining about the delays, will then complain about the bugs. It will be finished, when it's finished. Thats good enough for me.;)

Steve

[PerlAddict]

Yeah, me too ... like my head. :P

Thanks for the info, Bill. I may pick up G3 one of these days, but for $200 ... well, that's more than what a new plane would cost and at the moment, I'd rather just have a second plane to fly. I'm assuming you can take that Interlink controller and use it with other games, as well?

[firemanbill]

I dunno... good question. Ive never tried it on anything else. I'm not much into games, after staring at the puter here at work all day I'm ready to give it a rest... well sort of anyway.

You can also hook your other radio up to the interlink and fly two people at once. I take my pc over to my heighbors house every now and then an hook up to his 60 lcd tv, we'll split screen and chase each other around! It's a blas

[jipp]

well i bit the bullet and bought G3 today. pretty neat just wish the planes were larger for my eyes. lol.

chris.

[Old Fart]

Change the scale to 200% (or bigger)

[jipp]

Thank you so much jeff. so much easier on my eyes. I went looking for reflex last night but only found G3. I like it, changing the scale much easier on the eyes. OUt of the box i can say G3 flys like the other sims iv tryed the real diffrence is in the configuration if anyone is wondering. Pluss the grafics are better. as much as I use these flight sims, all i can say is its money well spent.

chris.

[Old Fart]

Buddy of mine suggested it for me to learn helo's - works (not well enough for me to buy one though)

Love G3, need to put a better video card in the home pc though. I have all the G2 expansion packs, both G3 expansion packs and have downloaded probably 50-60 planes from the Realflight and other sites.

[jipp]

I have a question about the expansion packs. do you have to install them in numeric order, or can you pick and choose?

chris.

[Old Fart]

I _think_ you can install them by themselves.

Ask here:
http://www.knifeedge.com/forums/index.php?

(you need to join that forum anyway) :)

[firemanbill]

I have a question about the expansion packs. do you have to install them in numeric order, or can you pick and choose?

chris.

You can pick and choose... I have 3 and 4.

[griffinmt]

There has been a lot of talk about the number of delays with FS One. One possible reason may be a legal issue that no-one wants to talk about.

There is already an F1 race simulator that uses that name for its product.

Also, If you want G3, for the next few weeks, you can get it with one of the original G2 expansion packs (4 I think) plus a mail-in rebate for $20 retailer credit or $10 cash.

[raynet11]

I bit the bullet and picked up G3 as well (with expansion pack 1, and addon pack 1), I'm very happy thus far, with the winter winds and the fact that it will be dark out by the time I get out of work. The heli flight is pretty close but could be better in some ways but hey it's a sim right? The other thing that I'm trying to practice are some flat spins and some inverted flat spins. I just learned to do one so I still don't know what I'm doing yet but it's nice to risk it in the sim before you hit the field.. :)

Just need a bigger monitor now , this is where a nice 21 inch monitor would be nice, I'm tempted to drag the pc over the TV.. hmmmm..

cheers,
Ray

[debhicks]

Been using FSOne since last Monday. Have not set up my own plane but looked at it pretty quick. You can make a copy of a plane you like and then set it up the way you want.

Training. Different pilots take you through some manuvers with stick controls on the screen so you can see it.

Different airplanes are prolific. Flight characteristics. I have flown g2 and Ikkarus flight sims. This one is the only one that I have found to have the most realistic aerodynamics, flying site scenes.

I am still checking out all the planes and amazing myself with my own capabilities. Hope to be out on the flying field in the spring and wowing all. :)

You never know. You can also record your flying so you can see what it is you are doing for tweaking your manuvers. There are some head to head pylon racing rounds and a target practice.

[Flyinghigh]

I really am happy with FSONE ,support is outstanding! I willl not have to pay for "expansion packs" and will be able to download them.

Only glitch I see is with the user created planes.Well I dont think there are going to be any :( unless someone hacks the program and figures all that stuff out.

Thumbs up on the physics and graphics.The overall interface is a little bit tricky,like changing props engine/motors etc. Im sure Ill figure that out someday but right now I just like to fly :)

[simarRC]

i love heli's on fs one, i find them too twitchy on G3... why is that?