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steveair2 01-03-2013 02:56 AM

F105 Thunderchief
 
Hello group, I have been away from R/C for fifteen years. I recently started looking at what is now available online. I am amazed at the changes.

I am wanting to scale up Steve Bage's F105. The plans I have show a wing span of ten and a half inches. I would like to scale this model up to around thirty six inches in span and put a electric motor in the nose. "prop jet"

Can anyone direct me to a thread that will help me calculate what motor and prop I would need for the wing area I am planning?

I would also like to know why most prop jets are pushers and not tractor?
My guess would be CG issues.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Steve

CHELLIE 01-03-2013 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by steveair2 (Post 894481)
Hello group, I have been away from R/C for fifteen years. I recently started looking at what is now available online. I am amazed at the changes.

I am wanting to scale up Steve Bage's F105. The plans I have show a wing span of ten and a half inches. I would like to scale this model up to around thirty six inches in span and put a electric motor in the nose. "prop jet"

Can anyone direct me to a thread that will help me calculate what motor and prop I would need for the wing area I am planning?

I would also like to know why most prop jets are pushers and not tractor?
My guess would be CG issues.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Steve

Hi Steve :ws: check out Heads up Rc on a power system, Email Jeff and he can fit you with a Perfect power system, A Lot of People here use Jeffs power systems and Jeff is great to Work With.
http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/StoreFront

steveair2 01-03-2013 03:24 AM

WOW! That's a nice link! Thanks Chellie!

CHELLIE 01-03-2013 03:24 AM

this would be my Recommendation using a 6x5.5 APC prop :ws: on 3 cells, later if you want to go Faster, use a 5x5 or 4.5 x 4.5 apc prop on 4 cells use a wattmeter to be on the safe side :)

http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...450-Jet/Detail

CHELLIE 01-03-2013 03:26 AM

BTW ???? Welcome to Wattflyers :D

xuzme720 01-03-2013 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CHELLIE (Post 894485)
Hi Steve :ws: check out Heads up Rc on a power system, Email Jeff and he can fit you with a Perfect power system, A Lot of People here use Jeffs power systems and Jeff is great to Work With.
http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/StoreFront

+1 on that and Welcome!:D

CHELLIE 01-03-2013 03:37 AM

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/foru...ysprune=&f=218

xuzme720 01-03-2013 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CHELLIE (Post 894493)

How long has that been there? See all the cool stuff I missed...

looks like it's quote night!
Han Solo: Luke? Luke's crazy! He can't even take care of himself, much less rescue anybody.
[Chewie barks again]
Han Solo: A Jedi Knight? Jeez, I'm out of it for a little while, everyone gets delusions of grandeur! :Q;-)

steveair2 01-03-2013 04:03 AM

Thank you all for the help. FYI, not looking to break the sound barrier, I just want a cool sport plane. I like scratch building and I like oldtime methods. I also build rubber free flight using tissue and nitrate dope. This is the planned method on the F105.

CHELLIE 01-03-2013 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by steveair2 (Post 894498)
Thank you all for the help. FYI, not looking to break the sound barrier, I just want a cool sport plane. I like scratch building and I like oldtime methods. I also build rubber free flight using tissue and nitrate dope. This is the planned method on the F105.

Cool :ws: My Father got me started with CL when i was about 12, that was so much fun i never left model aviation :ws: I am a old time builder too, i built models from balsa, tissue, ambroid glue and dope too, I like building Planes from Foam now, its quick and fun, here are some of my scratch built planes if your interested, Take care and have fun, Chellie

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/show...652#post715652

steveair2 01-03-2013 04:39 AM

Hi Chellie, just looked at your planes. Umm,...... ah,....... WOW!

JetPlaneFlyer 01-03-2013 09:09 AM

Steve,

Great to see some interest in my old F105 plane (I'm Steve Bage):D

An scaled up EDF conversion has already been done and it flies fantastically. Here's the video:
YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


The builder goes by the name Boogie over on RC groups. He did a build thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1314878

You could PM him for more info or I can put you in touch if you drop me a PM here. A prop rather than EDF would simplify the conversion though I think a pusher might be the way to go with the battery up front to achieve balance.

I hope you do go ahead with the project, i'd love to see another thud take to the air.

Steve

CrimzonRider 01-03-2013 05:02 PM

:D:D....subscribed
gonna be a good thread I can tell....:cool:

cr

steveair2 01-04-2013 12:17 AM

That is a really nice link Steve. Your F105 drawings are very nice. I really appreciate everyones help, thank you all very much.


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