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solentlife 12-08-2013 09:34 AM

Make it easier for people to read your post ?
 
As with many Forums - people have many different nationalities and languages. Forums like this tend to be in English for want of a common international language.

This brings in the matter of being able to understand others posts and also our own.

Many times posts are a steady stream of words all in one block and extremely difficult to understand. It is difficult to read and often I and I am sure others have to try and split the words up to get to the meaning.

We all appreciate that English is not first language for many ... please do not misunderstand my post here.

What I ask is that when posting ... please try to divide up the text into sections. This allows easier reading and also more understanding of the intention.

Avoid over use of smilies inside sentences - they tend to fix onto letters or words next to them ...

We all want to help everyone as much as possible and understanding / being able to read posts is an important part.

When wanting help with a problem - a photo can be the greatest item of all ... it is worth a thousand words ! Especially when different languages use words differently.

Sorry if this seems a bit school like - just trying to help.

Nigel

Rodneh 12-08-2013 02:11 PM

Good advice Nigel. It also helps if posters list their location, at the very least, which country they live in. Some answers depend on location in order to be accurate.

Wildflyer 12-08-2013 04:02 PM

Good idea Rodneh, but I can't hold back a little teasing.:)

I noticed that you do not have your location listed.:rolleyes:

Usable radio frequencies differ by country or general region, so Tx's & Rx's should not be sold, across these lines. I have watched Ebay listings where the item was shipped from UK to USA. I don't think the buyer realised he could not use it here, he was a noob.

solentlife 12-08-2013 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildflyer (Post 933588)
Good idea Rodneh, but I can't hold back a little teasing.:)

I noticed that you do not have your location listed.:rolleyes:

Usable radio frequencies differ by country or general region, so Tx's & Rx's should not be sold, across these lines. I have watched Ebay listings where the item was shipped from UK to USA. I don't think the buyer realised he could not use it here, he was a noob.

C'mon guys ...

It's not hard to ask someone where they are located ... some people don't want to advertise their location ...

Nigel

pizzano 12-08-2013 06:15 PM

I've often suggested, for ease of reading or following ones text, that the author consider breaking up the conversation into paragraphs or double space the writing flow of the topic or change in presentation.

Yes, many of those who's first language is not English, may have grammer blunders, but conveying ones thought process through text by bunching several ideas or explanations together in one long continuous sentence makes it very difficult for the reader (translator) to get the complete picture. Thus, making it difficult for those who care to, provide a reasonable level of help.

Obviously, not everyone who communicates in English is a scholar. But, one does not need to be to communicate effectively.........if one desires to recieve a reasonable solution to a problem and not "_itch" about the responses they get from the internet......;)

xmech2k 12-08-2013 07:20 PM

I'm sure I've brought it up here before, but in one of my airplane classes, the instructor asked 'how can you solve all the world's problems today?' Communication. It was an analogy on how to troubleshoot anything, but relates to most anything we do.

If you type in the forums in the ways mentioned above, it's poor communication, and people will not be able to understand what you're trying to ask or say. What are forums but communication, after all? Unless you're just looking at the pictures! Maybe it's a second language for them, maybe they have a disability, or maybe they are just lazy, didn't pay attention at school, or are too cool to be 'smart'. Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it's hard to pinpoint. That's why I usually (usually!) just bite my tongue. In some of these cases I type a paragraph, then pause a moment and hit the back button. At least I typed it and got it off my chest in my mind.

But yes, I wish I could tell people this sometimes without hurting any feelings. It is pretty rare to see those kind of posts at least, but they are out there. (Pausing to think if I should hit the back button.... Naah!)

tobydogs 12-08-2013 07:43 PM

i agreenigel:D,i for one[1]am often guilty:roll:of doing these things:rolleyes:..[popcorn],,:oops:...:mad:.but in my defense[not that i need defending;-)]i will try to do better:cool:. so from here on out[while typing in forums]i will resist these bad habits:Q.i do agree with you when folks don't space the post properly and often think the are spammers trying to sneak in our midst:blah:.......it will now be my pleasure to

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pattern14 12-08-2013 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tobydogs (Post 933626)
i agreenigel:D,i for one[1]am often guilty:roll:of doing these things:rolleyes:..[popcorn],,:oops:...:mad:.but in my defense[not that i need defending;-)]i will try to do better:cool:. so from here on out[while typing in forums]i will resist these bad habits:Q.i do agree with you when folks don't space the post properly and often think the are spammers trying to sneak in our midst:blah:.......it will now be my pleasure to

NOTICE TO ALL INTERNET USERS:
Due to a security breech, the locks on the cell doors of the north wing of Hackensack Psychiatric Center unlocked and one patient known as "tobydogs" escaped his padded cell. he has been returned and will not be posting on the Internet any longer. we are very sorry for any inconvenience's this may have caused. HPC Staff

Hmmmm........this poor fellow obviously originates from inside the U.S, notorious for its poor spelling and butchery of the Queens English. We can only pity him and hope for a full recovery

hayofstacks 12-08-2013 11:17 PM

its not the queens language its an improved version of the original with phone auto correct.

dahawk 12-08-2013 11:37 PM

Hate to be an old curmudgeon like Nigel but what really irks me is the improper spelling of the word "too" as in: "it's not too difficult" Almost everyone uses "to"

Anyone else crabby today ? LOL

stevecooper 12-09-2013 12:06 AM

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Screw spell"in and Punch'you'a'shun,;) were a mess of old farts with toy airplanes:rolleyes:,, gramer don't matter none a'tall,,,:Q bubsteve

stevecooper 12-09-2013 12:14 AM

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Just yank'in your chain Nigel my Bub:ws:
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tobydogs 12-09-2013 12:15 AM

queens english????




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tobydogs 12-09-2013 12:19 AM

ditto what steve said ,sorry nigel for hijacking the thread my friend. i agree with the op.:cool:

E-Challenged 12-10-2013 01:39 AM

When somebody asks for help in "texteze" I won't make an effort to reply. I will forgive people who don't know "then" from "than". Some of our best model designers are notorious for poor grammar, spelling, and sentence structure. Often they are very good at things like CAD and model aerodynamics.

maxflyer 12-10-2013 02:26 AM

Dahawk hits one nail on the head. I accept the concept that language is a constantly evolving form, but being an old guy, with an actual "old-style" education, I still have problems getting past the ignorance that often arises here in relation to spelling and grammer. I'm not talking about the use of devices which I use myself when texting, such as "U" for the word "you." But I guess, in the end, getting the concept across is all that matters.

solentlife 12-10-2013 07:11 AM

I freely admit that quite often I drop a spelling clanger ... I use two PC's that one has a lazy "SHIFT" key and other has a lazy E ...

I dislike MS Spellchecker because even in UK English - USA spelling gets in ...

Shortening of words to TEXT'ing style I can live with - all my shiping career - we lived with Telex ...

My point is starting the thread - was not so much being a crabby old fart ... but just to highlight that spacing out, separating parts of a the post makes it easier to understand the subject or question.

Too often we are seeing posts that are literally like words just poured onto the page like a stream of water, very little punctuation. Little or no capitalisation of sentences first letter.

The funny thing about spelling and particularly the English language ... is the meaning can be seen and read in poor spelling ... as long as it's laid out well to read.

Cheers
Nigel

BroncoSquid 12-10-2013 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solentlife (Post 933546)
Many times posts are a steady stream of words all in one block and extremely difficult to understand. It is difficult to read and often I and I am sure others have to try and split the words up to get to the meaning.
Nigel

In general, on forums anyway, I find this problem to be a lack of education rather than a language barrier.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahawk (Post 933650)
Hate to be an old curmudgeon like Nigel but what really irks me is the improper spelling of the word "too" as in: "it's not too difficult" Almost everyone uses "to"
Anyone else crabby today ? LOL

Just fly your plane threw the gate, then continue strait and you will be there!

stevecooper 12-10-2013 10:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by solentlife (Post 933791)
I freely admit that quite often I drop a spelling clanger ... I use two PC's that one has a lazy "SHIFT" key and other has a lazy E ...

I dislike MS Spellchecker because even in UK English - USA spelling gets in ...

Shortening of words to TEXT'ing style I can live with - all my shiping career - we lived with Telex ...

My point is starting the thread - was not so much being a crabby old fart ... but just to highlight that spacing out, separating parts of a the post makes it easier to understand the subject or question.

Too often we are seeing posts that are literally like words just poured onto the page like a stream of water, very little punctuation. Little or no capitalisation of sentences first letter.

The funny thing about spelling and particularly the English language ... is the meaning can be seen and read in poor spelling ... as long as it's laid out well to read.

Cheers
Nigel

Thanks Nigel, I'm an old fart:oops:,,, capitalization is spelled with a "Z"
Your ChainYank'in Bub,Steve

solentlife 12-11-2013 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevecooper (Post 933872)
Thanks Nigel, I'm an old fart:oops:,,, capitalization is spelled with a "Z"
Your ChainYank'in Bub,Steve

Depends on which side of the 'pond' ...

Color ? Colour ? Capitalization ? Capitalisation ?


And is that the Correct English Z'ED' or the Colonial US Z'EE' ?

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Cheers
Nigel

solentlife 12-11-2013 11:05 AM

It's funny the variances in the English language.

I was working the Gulf of Mexico a while back .. Sabine ... Port Arthur ... Beaumont ... New Orleans ... Mobile .... Corpus Christie ...

Anyway - I had a couple of days lay-over in New Orleans before flying home.... in fact I got re-routed to Jebel Ali in Arab Emirates ... but that's another story.

I was talking to a lass in one of the restaurants and she just sat staring at me ... it was a little unnerving .. so I asked her if there was anything wrong ...

Lordy Me .. I jest LUV that engleeesh accent ... it's jest so sexy !

Didn't know what to say so ..

That'll be medium steak please with salad on the side !

Nigel

xmech2k 12-11-2013 05:07 PM

Lol! I thought English accents made people smarter and funnier. Have to add sexier! Come to think of it,this reminds me of an ad whet the gal pulls off all 3 at once, even though it's a fake accent despite the material.

YouTube Video
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solentlife 12-11-2013 05:16 PM

..... well she plays it well !!

The only thing worse than an American doing a Brit accent - is a Brit doing an American !!

;)

Nigel

Arkitexas 12-16-2013 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solentlife (Post 933928)
The only thing worse than an American doing a Brit accent - is a Brit doing an American !!

I have to say that Hugh Laurie does a great job of it. On the opposite side of the pond, Kevin Costner is the antithesis.

Turner 12-16-2013 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solentlife (Post 933546)
As with many Forums - people have many different nationalities and languages. Forums like this tend to be in English for want of a common international language.

This brings in the matter of being able to understand others posts and also our own.

Many times posts are a steady stream of words all in one block and extremely difficult to understand. It is difficult to read and often I and I am sure others have to try and split the words up to get to the meaning.

We all appreciate that English is not first language for many ... please do not misunderstand my post here.

What I ask is that when posting ... please try to divide up the text into sections. This allows easier reading and also more understanding of the intention.

Avoid over use of smilies inside sentences - they tend to fix onto letters or words next to them ...

We all want to help everyone as much as possible and understanding / being able to read posts is an important part.

When wanting help with a problem - a photo can be the greatest item of all ... it is worth a thousand words ! Especially when different languages use words differently.

Sorry if this seems a bit school like - just trying to help.

Nigel


Proper punctuation and sentence structure helps as well.

Quote:

As with many Forums, people have many different nationalities and languages. Forums like this tend to be in English for want of a common international language. This brings in the matter of being able to understand others posts and also our own.

Many times posts are a steady stream of words all in one block and extremely difficult to understand. It is difficult to read and often I, and I am sure others, have to try and split the words up to get to the meaning. We all appreciate that English is not first language for many. Please do not misunderstand my post here.

What I ask is that when posting, please try to divide up the text into sections. This allows easier reading and also more understanding of the intention. Avoid over use of smilies inside sentences. They tend to fix onto letters or words next to them.

We all want to help everyone as much as possible and understanding and being able to read posts is an important part. When wanting help with a problem a photo can be the greatest item of all. It is worth a thousand words! Especially when different languages use words differently.

Sorry if this seems a bit school like, just trying to help.

Original text from Nigel with corrections


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