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ziptie 03-02-2014 01:53 AM

New flyer from NY
 
Hello everyone, thought I would introduce myself. I'm Ziptie, from Rochester NY and got the RC airplane bug. Several years ago I was trying to learn on a Supercub trainer, a great plane, but must have lost interest or got discouraged after all the crashes.

Now I'd like to learn to fly properly and from the ground up. I've purchased a Realflight SIM and plan on getting an Apprentice S as my first trainer plane.

Please feel free to share any tips that might help get me started in the right direction.

gramps2361 03-02-2014 01:58 AM

ziptie Welcome to wattflyer Never owned the Apprentice, but I have heard nothing but good. Here is a couple of links to help you learn about E flite and flying. Have fun and don't be shy about asking questions it's the best way to avoid a mistake.

Everything You Wanted To Know About Electric Powered Flight (http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/imag.../multipage.gif 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ... Last Page)

Helping People Learn to Fly (http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/imag.../multipage.gif 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 )

xmech2k 03-02-2014 04:19 AM

Welcome to WF Ziptie. Sounds like you're on the right track. That's a great starter plane. And the sim will give you a feel for what to expect. Sims aren't perfect, as you have no depth perception or peripheral vision, but do your best practicing touch and goes. Flying around is easy. It's the landing that's the toughest. Also, don't worry about finding an Apprentice in the sim. Just find something close. A high wing electric trainer of similar size.

If you can, I'd still try to find someone who can buddy box with you at least until you're comfortable with it. Maybe at a club. And make sure you find a pretty big space. The Apprentice can fly really slow, but for someone really new, it might be challenging to slow it down for landing. Good luck!

CHELLIE 03-02-2014 06:29 AM

Hi Ziptie and Welcome to Wattflyers :ws: The best Plane to Start with is a power glider, they fly slow, and will give you time to think, do all of your crashing with this type of plane first, then you can move on to a high wing trainer, this power glider will give to all the basic training you will ever need.

http://www.headsuphobby.com/HITEC-SK...T-ARF-M112.htm

http://www.headsuphobby.com/images/1...922768122.jpeg

BaronBernie 03-02-2014 11:33 AM

Welcome Ziptie, by asking for help and assistance is the best way to get started. Just like you, I also have the Real Flight Simulator and find it to be a valuable tool in learning to fly. Depending on the version you are using, there is an Apprentice S plane that you can download from the Knife Edge site. Having the newest transmitter that has been designed for Real Flight Simulator would add to the realisim of this simulator.

I too live in New York (Buffalo) and have enjoyed indoor flying for some time. In the beginning I was flying Nitro planes, they were nice but having to adjust both fuel needles became a hastle and took alot of fun out of flying. Many pilots seem to be switching over to electric planes for many reasons.

Good Luck in your flying.

ziptie 03-02-2014 02:39 PM

Thanks for the tips. Lots of options for planes but I'm sure after I choose one the added hours on the simulator will really help no matter which one I go with. If anyone flies at North Hampton park and would like to show me a few things that would be great. They have trainer nights starting in May I think so I'll be checking that out as well.

My goal is to learn how to fly well on a few trainer planes, then get a kit, possibly a nitro to put together. What are some good mid size planes in kit form available? I've seen many ARF and RTF but not many kits.

fhhuber 03-02-2014 06:23 PM

Kits are becoming less popular for a few reasons. Primarily for me is cost. It is often cheaper to buy an ARf than to get a kit and all of the assorted materials needed to complete it.

There are still some very good kits out there, but you have to look for them.

Similarly glow fuel power is starting to decline with the improvements in electric power declining battery costs combined with rising glow fuel prices.
Electric also offers some increased convenience since you just plug the battery in and go vs the tuning of glow engines and then there's the cleaning after flying with glow's exhaust residue.
We never see smaller glow models at our club field now and the larger models are getting gasoline engines so there are few glow models being flown.

Any kit can be built to accommodate whatever type power (using an appropriate size motor/engine of course) you wish to use. Most ARFs can be altered with little difficulty also.

What specific kits to recommend depends on which direction you want to go in the hobby. Proctor or Balsa USA have some wonderful larger scale kits... Mountain Models or Steven's Aero have very good small kits. And there are plenty of other sources.

thepiper92 03-02-2014 06:38 PM

Welcome Ziptie, the people here will help you out; I certainly have learned a lot here

xmech2k 03-02-2014 09:11 PM

Just an FYI, don't expect the sim version of the Apprentice to behave exactly like the real one, hence my earlier advice. Especially research about the 3 flight modes and stabilization in the sim, if any.

ziptie 03-07-2014 05:14 PM

The Supercub looks to be another good option. What it be a good idea to buy the BNF version, and then pick up a nicer radio system to use that I can transfer over to my next plane such as a DX8?

dahawk 03-07-2014 05:47 PM

Zip,

That's what I would do if you're thinking about sticking it out for a while. I think the new RTF versions come with a very basic Spektrum radio. Get the best TX you can afford. I have the DX9 and love it. Came over as a Futaba guy. The new DX6 looks good. Can't go wrong with Spektrum IMO but there are opinions that go 180 degrees to mine.

Folks get very emotionally attached to their TX's. LOL Even discussing the topic can bring out the worst in some people. The fact is most of the current 2.4 systems are pretty darn good. Pick your poison.

The old version HZSC was my first electric plane. Still have it and have since modded her out to the hilt. Keep her around for float flys. Lots of other good choices now.

Check out MotionRC. Great service/ free shipping.

The new Apprentice S is pretty nice. Flyzone Sensei http://www.motionrc.com/flyzone-sens...-wingspan-rxr/ or Switch ,

Freewing Pandora http://www.motionrc.com/freewing-pan...-wingspan-pnp/

Same thing with a charger. Get a decent one. I love my iCharger 208b( ProgessiveRC or EP Buddy) but there are other great options out there. The chargers that come with the RTF's are a POS. You'll be waiting for the cows to come home to charge a simple 3S lipo.

Let us know what you end up doing.

Have fun- Hawk

xmech2k 03-07-2014 07:00 PM

I understand there's a SuperCub with SAFE coming out soon. Probably another great option.
Here's the RTF, comes with a Spektrum Dx4e: RTF
Here's BNF, BNF
With the RTF, you're getting the tx for only $30. Then when you buy a 'real' computer tx, you can keep this one for buddy boxing your friends who want to learn.
I'm not sure of a release date for this one, though.


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