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Old 12-01-2012, 01:10 PM   #1
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Default I have to be stark raving bonkers ! Winter

So I'm warm sitting at my desk scanning through the latest forum posts ... and phone rings ....

Hey Nige ... flying today ?

Hi Uldis ... yeh why not ... what time ?

Nige - meet in an hour at the rough site ...

Ok Uldis ...

I put phone down and look out the window ......... we have snow, about 10cms so far ... thermometer shows -3C .... grey skies ..... but calm.

So I pack up the car ... Cessna and my two T45's ... box of LiPo's ... Tranny ... tools .....

Across to flight site ... It's cold but not so bad ... so I power up and launch the Cessna while waiting for the guys to arrive ....

Uldis arrives and powers up his Cessna .... so there we both are carving up the skies with our Cessna's ....

Hey Uldis ... where's the other guys ?

Nige - 2 are drunk, others out buying a bicycle ... others I dunno ....

OH - OK .. so it's just us two then.

We have a bunch of flights each using up the batterys we have with us ... and I have 1 LiPo left ...... Uldis is already finished all his ... and he watches me.
I launch ... there's an odd flake of snow coming down but nothing special ... then within seconds it's white out ! Luckily my Cessna has the red on it - so I can just make out faint red in the air ....... I gingerly bring it round .... hoping I have her right .... she comes into good view ... Now at this point you'd think I would land ? No I decided to keep going !!

Yep ... snow coming down ... Cessna in the sky ... me getting covered .... Uldis asking how long I'm gonna stay up !!

Finally I brought her in ... picked her up ... took out the battery ..switched off ... put in car and went home.

Was it worth it ? Yeh sure it was !! We have agreed to meet again tomorrow !

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Old 12-01-2012, 01:25 PM   #2
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dang nigel,your a hard core rc addict.sounds like fun with one or two exceptions.......-2c,and snow falling. otherwise a perfect day at the field.

i'v been reading the winter thread and have come to the conclusion i'm more of a hybernating type bear rather than you polar bear types. it's more a time for me to resort to the man cave for winterizing [repairing]planes so i'm ready for those wamer days to come. it's a balmy 36deg here today with warmer weather on the way....still no tx till dec 15th,it;s on b/o on all online sites where it not overpriced. when i do get it i will fly the pkj using speedo doppler freezing or snow on the ground. that's a 100% must do!!!!

do you use a tx glove while flying? id be affraid a stick[throttle]might get pushed accidentaly

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Old 12-01-2012, 01:47 PM   #3
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I was flying in the snow too. Hardly any snow to be honest, just a powdering, but the wind was quite strong and icy cold. So I only had on Flight of my AJ Slick and headed home

I might nip out later if the wind eases off.
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Originally Posted by stuart View Post
dang nigel,your a hard core rc addict.sounds like fun with one or two exceptions.......-2c,and snow falling. otherwise a perfect day at the field.
Usually winter days are brilliant for flying here - once winter is properly in ... blue sky, sunshine .... real picture post-card stuff ...

do you use a tx glove while flying? id be affraid a stick[throttle]might get pushed accidentaly
I have thin cotton gloves I wear .. not enough to really stay warm - but enough for stick time to stop fingers getting too cold - but I can still feel the sticks. They also have a small amount of silicon blobs on working part - so hand-launching a model is easy - the gloves really help the grip.

For anyone interested - had the MRI and checks .. can't find anything wrong - so they think I strained or nipped some nerves ... I'm feeling a lot better now ... so back to work next few days ...

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Good that you got the all clear Nigel.

Have you tried fingerless gloves? Either buy specially made or snip the fingers off some ordinary lightweight thermal gloves and you have the ideal flying glove. Tips of the fingers is all you need to feel the sticks but unless its extremely cold your fingers don't freeze up.
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:42 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by JetPlaneFlyer View Post
Good that you got the all clear Nigel.

Have you tried fingerless gloves? Either buy specially made or snip the fingers off some ordinary lightweight thermal gloves and you have the ideal flying glove. Tips of the fingers is all you need to feel the sticks but unless its extremely cold your fingers don't freeze up.
There's talk of my seeeing a Nerve specialist ... but opinion is it's something that will slowly abate as the nerves tend to stay bruised for long time ... anyway - need to work !!

Fingerless gloves .. yes I used them many years ago but never tried for flying. To be honest - I fly for about 6 - 7mins max .... and the EDF's / fast stuff is less than that - so the cotton jobs do OK ... rest of time - I put hands in pocket !!

We haven't hit our real lows yet ... -3C is only the start ... we will see -10C average and then a few days of -20C or lower ... (I'll probably be away somewhere wamer working !!)

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Back in my early days in RC up in the north of Scotland, we had a sort of 'competition' to see who could be the last to fly in the 'old year' and the first in the 'new year'. It was driven by that 'Hogmanay' - New Year - was the big Scottish winter holiday.

So, one 31st of December, Kevin, the guy who'd taught me to fly, and I hit the airfield to nail the "last Flight of The Year'. One advantage of being in the RAF was having a real good flying site near to home, as long as the big stuff wasn't using it.

The aim - we'd both fly once, but I got the last flight as it was my idea, model aircraft and car!

So, with darkness fast approaching, I fueled and started the model while Kevin sat in the car, engine running, heater flat out and under many layers of clothing. When I had the model ready, we traded places, Kevin flew and I stuffed my hands under the heater's blast.

He flew around until finger paralysis set in, landed, refueled her and we traded places. I got the last flight in by going around in circles in fast approaching cloud-laden darkness, then landing. Killed the engine, tossed the model and stuff into the car and we headed for home to thaw out.

First flight of the new year was not the day after - it was more like a week after the snowstorm that hit the night of the 31st backed off some!

Transmitter mits had not been invented back then, save you asking!

I was around 28 then. Now, I am firmly a fair weather flier. Motto of the story - do crazy things while young, however large or small their import. One day, you will develop common sense.

I love to fly in the winter. Indoors, preferably at venues with coffee close by the flight line!

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You guys are making me feel like a lightweight. Somewhat spoiled here in Texas. High temp around 80F today but wind 10-20 gusting to 30. No free lunch !

Luckily, the wife is out of town so I have the run of the house. Planes,tools, etc. everywhere and the smell of 5 min epoxy. Can it get any better than this? Building out a couple of ARF's I've had laying around and a new C310. Doing maintenance work on the rest of the squadron.

Even get to choose my own menu while she's gone: Pizza, Burgers, Chicken Wings. Chips, Salsa With college football in the background, It's heaven !

Tomorrow is supposed to be 10 to 15 which I can tolerate but then kicking up again.

Our club just installed a new online weather station: http://114thrc.org/wxHistory.asp

Nice to see the actual field conditions before getting in the car. I can look out the window or go outside but it's always different at the field which is 10 miles away.

Stay warm guys !


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Our club just installed a new online weather station: http://114thrc.org/wxHistory.asp


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Hey, that online weather station is quite interesting. Can you provide details on where you got it, and how many $$$$ for it?

Also, does it require a source of AC power?

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Having had my travel out delayed ......... I went for another session with the models .... -4C .... snow ..... but a glorious day - sunshine, blue sky ...

Vilnis was having a ball trying to perfect touch and goes on snow ... with his pusher wing (looks like a 2x size Skyfun) ... out of about 6 goes - he actually did 'kiss' the snow a couple of times and flew on ... rest the nose ploughed in !

Me ... Cessna had it's fill of 4 lipo packs through her ... 2 years on and she is still in good condition and flying a treat ! Then it was the 4S into the Hobby King Edge Racer ... which took of like a scalded cat through the snow !! Flew rock solid ... no hint of the tip-stalls and other problems people talk about. Only thing is she glides in so fast for landing ... takes a lot of space to slow her down.
Then it was try and maiden the SE5 scratchbuild ... but wheels too small .... holes in the snow on road ... she nosed over and broke motor mount .. so maiden waits another day.

But overall - a cracking day .... magic.

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I have to give you credit nigel for flying in the snow ,after working outside as a carpenter for 29 years in somtimes - 0 degree weather i have swore never to go out and fly when its cold out anymore. When i was in my 20's and 30's i would warm my nitro motor on the exaust of my truck so it would turn over fast enough to start but now close to 60 i dont fly in the cold or ride my harley when it gets below 50 degrees anymore. Its fun to stay in and build drink hot coffie or hot co co and watch every one else get frostbite tho. joe
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I've been out flying in the snow too. Conditions maybe not quite as bad as yours Nigel, only about 2" of snow and it started melting today. I cleared a short take off strip so I could get the planes off the ground but landing was a bit hairy. The snow tended to grab the wheels and cause a nose over, ended up breaking the tip of one of my wood props as it dug in, but otherwise it was a great flying day. It was almost dead calm and the cold winter air just seems denser making my planes 'float' (probably an illusion but that's how it felt).

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Winter flying is the best flying. No lineups waiting for the pilot station.

I flew last weekend -10 C but sunny and calm got three packs in before the fingers got cold


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-18F is my best so far. Almost no wind when it's that cold.

I have a pair of gloves with the index finger and thumbs cut off.

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Last time I flew a model airplane in winter - it was many decades ago in Northern hemisphere. We used to keep a competition every year in February, free flight gliders, rubber power, motor power. I have the best memories from that time, crispy air, sun, white snow and blue sky. Winter is good time for flying as long as it is not spiced up by snow flakes

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In one word Nige,"Priceless".

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Seeing the Ski's on the model here ..... thinking to do same with my Cessna .... or use the floats ?

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Well its Sunday ... next day - but we all cried off ....

Snows falling and visibility is not so good .... I've decided to sample the local brew ...

Inbetween slugs of beer - I have continued my setting up of the SE5 scratchbuild ... but I'm starting to think that I should put it aside and just enjoy the beer. Could cut out some parts to sort my ME109 I suppose ... or I could just put John Lee Hooker on the stereo and sit back ?



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nigel good buddy,just get well! take it easy bud and enjoy that brewski!


speaking of ski's i bent the tips of these ski's and used a hacksaw blade to spring lift the ski nose in flight so toch downs are back of skis first they fly mostly level so not to effect flight. heres how i but the tip curves in before painting them.


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I have to say I have enjoyed more than enough brew ...........

I am now into FM ... Aphrodisia ....

and

The Animals - House of Rising Sun

and of course ........... Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon


..................... Oh Dear !

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Those are Dubro park flyer skis. Super cheap and work good. They weigh less than most wheels.

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sitting here reading how cold it is... woo. Too hot to fly here. 35c or about 95F My den is just too hot to sit in, even the workbench is hot to touch. And this is one of our cooler days lately. (Queensland) Would never need skis here. lol
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Big Canadian cold front coming through today. High temps next week in Dallas hovering around 40F. Possible ice and snow. That's bone chilling enough for me. Still have run of the house so I'll be repairing the squadron while watching football after a so-so flying day yesterday.

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Saw this today. Very cool ski setup for scratchbbuilt twin:

http://youtu.be/QS2kVyqROkQ

Gorgeous scenery !

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I built skis for my Flightstar 40- then the snow melted.

I may have to find out how well my Fokker D-VII does with them (my DX5 killed my Flightstar).

No snow yet- here in Syracuse NY!

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