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Old 03-29-2014, 01:42 AM   #1
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Default 70 mm kits- Where have they gone?

I have a 70mm edf available for transplant into a kit. Have a 64mm edf for that matter. Also have servos and esc's in surplus. Trouble is ,I can't seem to find a low cost kit. By low cost, I mean airframe only for $100 or less.
The Sapac T-45 I tried was a bust.

Thought about the Great Planes / Electrifly F-20 but I don't think a 70mm would fit too well in a design that's intended for their smaller, odd size hyperflow combo.

Did Airfield and Exceed go out of business ? Everything on Nitroplane along these lines has been sold out for months. I like FMS products a lot but they seem to only sell the ARF's and PNP versions now. No kits.

I did find an interesting F-50: http://f-hobby.com/index.php?gOo=goo...42&productname=

Might give it a go. I like the unusual.

Any other ideas ? I like a mix of edf's and larger planes. have several smaller 50mm & 64mm arf's and one larger 70mm size dollar tree version.

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Old 03-29-2014, 02:29 AM   #2
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Banana Hobby has some.. They are out there if you look.
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Old 03-29-2014, 02:42 AM   #3
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dahawk......take a peek at these guys, out of Los Angeles.

http://www.generalhobby.com/airplane...5o1hal8tu0kr95

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Lanxian as well as other factory labels ...

Problem is that KITS are few abd far between ... plenty of ARF / NEAR RTF ... but then price is well over the $100 mark.

I find it sad that Kits are disappearing ... leaving only the box jobs. I dislke near all box-job cosmetics and tired of stripping of and over-painting what I would prefer to NOT pay for !!

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I'm pretty sure that Hobby People's popular Phase 3 Squall and F-16s take 70mm EDFs. Airframes are $60.

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Fred / Pizzano- http://www.bananahobby.com/electric-...1,pageNumber=1

Notice that every 70mm kit is sold out. Seems to be the same case at Nitro, General Hobby and others. Did the Port of LA or Long Beach go on strike or did a container ship go down ? LOL I would have jumped on the FMS Phantom II BH was the only I could find who sold the kit version.

Mark- I have the Phase 3 F-16. It's a 64mm. Nice plane with the exception that it's made from beer cooler foam. Smooth flyer though

Really smitten with the Unique Models T-50 for $89.00 + shipping. Rich Baker from RC Informer did a nice review when HK was selling them. I'm afraid that shipping might be a 50% adder.

Since I have two 70mm setups available, maybe look for a Warthog or ME162 kit and go twin. I like to reuse what I have available as much as possible. It doesn't do me any good storing these parts in bins. I also have two 66mm eflight edf's. Mmmm. Did I hear Concorde? - LOL

Might just wait until the next swap meet. At the last one I attended, the auction had some killer deals. 5-10 cents on the dollar.

Have plenty of planes to fly for now, a few I have not even maidened ( HK 540T, Eflight Deuces Wild, Maxford Globe Swift, GP-Cherokee, VH- Neptune). Yikes ! This addiction is tough. I do like to mix smalls with large when I go to the field.

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Old 03-29-2014, 05:38 PM   #7
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In a moment of shear weakness, I went ahead and ordered the Unique Models 70mm T-50 Korean trainer kit from f-hobby:

Never bought anything from them before so I'm taking a proverbial 'flyer' so to speak. USD $122.00 shipped. Includes the 15 sec. retracts w/doors and servo actuated canopy. All I need to add are the servos, edf/motor and esc. Runs on 4S.



In looking on their website, they have a lot of kits: http://f-hobby.com/

I like it. Almost bought another 64mm Freewing F9F Panther airframe for $59.00.

I'll test the waters with them first and see how they perform and how well it is packed, how long it takes to get from China to Texas, etc.

I clicked thanks to everybody.

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Moment of weakness? That's a sharp looking plane! The only drawback is if you can't find any regular-people's reviews on it. Build thread, please!

Edit: Oh yeah, ordering from an unknown place was the scary part, right? Though you're right, they have a very impressive selection of edf planes, at least. And the prices. Under $100 for the Flyfly F-100! I may have a moment of weakness myself, even though I don't think that'll fit in my car! Hopefully you'll be pleasantly surprised. Let us know how it goes.
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x,

Rich Baker(Ex USAF fighter pilot) from RC Informer reviewed the T-50 when HK was selling it-- Way back in 2011-LOL .http://rcinformer.com/hobby-king-uni...-t-50-8-31-11/ Not a complete, step by step, build video but he does point out several things in his youtube video.

There is a thread on it over on RCG which I just subscribed to: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...493379&page=15

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Looks like it could be a nice one! Thanks for the links. Ahhhh, so many planes, so little time, space, money, and spousal understanding!
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Share your pain. I live in a 5 bedroom, 3500 sq. ft. house. We sleep in one room and the rest store her clothes and shoes. LOL.

And I'm relegated to the garage. Needless to say, I cannot get a car in there. Now she wants to put a car in there because of hail season coming up. So, I'm installing perforated aluminum L-brackets on the ceiling to hang my planes from using nylon rope and S hooks. Little ones can hang from the empennage. Big planes are cradled fore and aft.

Oh, the agony. the humanity ! Part of the reason I've been going small lately.

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hawk,
looks like a nice find,do give us a detailed review of "findhobby" service and the kit when it arrives. electric retracts and canopy...gotta love it and for $89 bucks. i don't think those retracts and small wheels would work well on the grass i fly off of but heck,i can always belly land and hand launch edfs without fear of prop bites. I'm waiting for the nice weekend weather to toss the reworked stinger and maiden the electrifly f-20 tigershark. today is all rain.

narrow is the place to land...wide is the space to crash....choose the narrow way!
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Originally Posted by dahawk View Post
Share your pain. I live in a 5 bedroom, 3500 sq. ft. house. We sleep in one room and the rest store her clothes and shoes. LOL.

And I'm relegated to the garage. Needless to say, I cannot get a car in there. Now she wants to put a car in there because of hail season coming up. So, I'm installing perforated aluminum L-brackets on the ceiling to hang my planes from using nylon rope and S hooks. Little ones can hang from the empennage. Big planes are cradled fore and aft.

Oh, the agony. the humanity ! Part of the reason I've been going small lately.

I am so glad I have "my office/Hobby room" and "my spare room" and "my garage side" I spill over into the game room as well -- oh and have a storage unit as well.

Luckily my wife rarely ventures upstairs


Hawk -- step away from the computer - it seems every time you buy one, I feel that I should be able to as well. such a bad influence on me

Got this F5 off CL. The motor was seized. So stuffed a 70 mm 12 blade, a 70 amp esc. Will run off a 4s 2200. Bet the times are 2 min. This thing is like almost 4 feet long.


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Stu,

I'm looking forward to this one. I agree. Grass will be tough but I'll try it anyway. Haven't flown my Austin Powers 4S Stinger in a while. Long overdue. Almost pulled the trigger on the GP F-20. Looks really nice plus you can use the stand it comes with and place it on your coffee table. -LOL If it had a 70mm I would have gone that route. Let us know how she performs.

I know you guys on the East Coast have been hammered all winter long. Hope you're finally turning the corner on Spring.

WTS- it's hard keeping up with your awesome squadron. If anyone can make a T-28 do a 100, it's you. Looking forward to the F-5 maiden. Love the swoosh sound of the 12 blader. Doesn't sound like a vacuum cleaner. Need to get one of those for the new T-50.

Start garage rehab tomorrow but then again, there's the NCAA b-ball games. At least my Gators are in. They all come to Arlington next week. Ah shoot, maybe go fly instead.

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Well so far, the speed demons over on the RCG thread are bashing this plane pretty hard. Calling her a pig. LOL There is added weight due the LG, and canopy servo setup. And it's doubtful I'll be able to ROG off our crappy grass field. Maybe a bungee candidate, don't know. I have a Jetapult ™ that I've never used. Bungee launch with a gear down or belly landing might be possible. Need to think more about that.

Might have to take her out to Thunderbirds near Ft. Worth. World class, paved runway.

I can say this so far about f-hobby. "Rose" sent me an email confirming the order and asking me what color I wanted. I remember a Tokyo Rose but now she's moved on to China. LOL She also asked if I wanted to upgrade shipping as the cheapest way can take over 45 days. Pretty nice to hear directly from a vendor like that.

I do like their portfolio of stuff. Nice brands like FMS and Freewing with lots of kit versions. Pricing is excellent but shipping seems a little high.

Hey, for $89.00 + $32.00 shipping? Not too bad.

I also have a few 64mm edf setups looking for a new home. Okay, Don't ask me why. -LOL

If all goes well with the T-50 experience , I might look for another kit.

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Thanks for the update. I'm fortunate to have runways to fly from. Hand launches and me don't get along!
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X,

Runway envy !

I can only dream of having a field like yours. Nearest field like that is 40 miles away. Our field limits our choices in airplane selection. Of course, the 3D and heli guys don't care nor do the big gassers. It's the 60"WS and under with retracts that have a problem . Right now, we're dodging mole holes. But WTS, aka "Carl", is determined to get those little varmints. I think I saw him molding C5 into little bunnies.

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Hi satnaam,

Welcome to WF ! Thanks for the tip on the L-39. Love that plane. I had kind of forgot about RC-Castle. They in fact have lots of kit versions. Been wanting the kit version of the FMS F4J Phantom II and nobody here in the US sells it. RC Castle has it. Would install a Don's Wicked 4s setup in that one.

For now, I have the T-50 Golden Eagle to build as well as the F-20 and Viper.

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Here's a test of the canopy and retracts for the 70mm Unique Models T50. A lot of technology in this plane for $90.00 but I think it might be somewhat fragile.

We'll see soon ! If it's one and done, it's not the end of the world.

http://youtu.be/EOTs-5K8460


F-20 is also now ready for maiden. Already flew the Viper. A separate story goes with that one.

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