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Old 06-14-2014, 04:16 PM   #1
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Default Blade 200QX BNF

I had a chance to fly the 200QX Thursday at the LHS.....It was their demo model. They were out of stock on a new one, so I ordered from Horizon yesturday (should say the kids and Mom ordered it for Father's Day).......

It should be here this Wednesday.

I'll post a "what I think of it" here soon as I have time.....although, I will say, the test flight was fun and it flies with more authority, speed and potential than the my Nano QX.....plan on attaching one of my little security cube cameras to it once I get it all dialed in........just for sht's & grins.........

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Well, here's the "what I think of it"........Arrived yesturday morning. Set-up the TX (DX6i) while charging the battery last night......pretty simple TX set-up, came with an addendum chart including camera settings (their's) and additional TX's settings.

Took it out earlier in a little breeze......as advertised, it's got loads of power (only flew on two settings, stability low and stability high) no doubt the agility mode will fly much like a CCP heli since the stability aspect is shut off in that mode....the DR/EXPO rate TX settings can also be adjusted as with any of the factory suggested TX settings.....if one cares to.

It's constructed quite well, battery compartment may be big enough to stuff a simular sized (width/girth) 900 to 1000mAh 7.4v....since the 800mAh does not give much run time.....two flights averaged 5.5mins ea., not much time and setting the default battery power alarms to the lower voltage warnings is out of the question.......since it's sensor can not be reprogrammed. LED flash warnings start at 7.1v, 7.0v, 6.9v and shuts down completely at 6.2v.......I tested it......the manual is dead on!

It weighs in at 6.7oz flight ready, even with the available power, attaching a camera (other than their's at .6oz's and $50.00) that weighs more than +2oz's will no doubt reduce the flight times even more (this is the only negitive aspect I found).....after all, it is what it is.....the little brother to the 350QX......!

Over-all, considering the lack of run time and no GPS (RTH) feature, I'd say it's a little over priced..........other than that (I have no buyers remorse).........the 200QX would be a good choice for the person who wants quality, durability, desires a great quad learning tool (or enjoys the new fad of quad racing), Spektrum friendly, indoor/outdoor Quad.....

My follow-up post will include a vid.....with the little cube camera attached.....it only cost $35.00 and vid quality has been amassing so far when attached to my planks......we'll see!


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Here's a little tip for those who are interested in the 200 QX......

The manual states that once you have properly programed the TX, performed bind and are ready to take flight........after the TX is turned on and battery connected........"you must move both sticks from center to lowest bottom inside corners, then back to center" in order to get the props engaged and in an idle.....!

This had me stumped for awhile.......was only able to get the first flight off by accident, the next few attempts failed to engage props.
So I gave Horizon a call....they returned my call within a hour.....and we went through the process live.....the tech was walking me through several attempts with his 200 QX and DX6i...same as myself.

Finally, we figured out that on my model (and evidently a few others) the throttle trim tab must be one or two clicks above center prior to moving the sticks.......and both sticks do not need to be moved to the inside corners.
On my model, once the throttle trim was advanced two clicks of center, I only needed to hold the throttle stick completly down and move it from left to right quickly two times.....and the props engaged into an idle......wha-laa..!

Have not had an issue since, now over 10 flights.......

Flew it at night outside......she's very visible at + 60' (approx. 10x's my stature) and orientation was not a problem...and I'm color blind red/green.......and near sighted..................maybe if all those onboard, very bright LED's were less power consuming, I'd get 8min's of flight time (they cannot be turned off).........

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Have not attached the cube camera on her yet......been windy and I still need to get a good grip of the three flight modes. Although, it seems the stability low mode will be the best for vid's since she's less likely to "jerk" around when changing flight position during a 30' to 40' hover....have yet to fly in any still conditions out of doors

Purchased (2) Tenergy 900mAh 25c 2s batteries. They fit perfect. Performed an indoor flight time test btw the E-Flight and Tenergy.......was able to hover the craft with E-Flite for 8min's.......the Tenergy gave me 9.5min's and seems to have a quicker thrust reponse. The Tenergy's only had only one charge on them......the E-Flite has now been fully charged and discharged 12 times.......my thinking is the Tenergy's will give a little more after they have been broken in....!

This little quad is the bomb......now if I can only get the weather to get some real out door flight time...!

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That quad sounds like a winner.

Your arming sequence is just like the 350. I tried the two stick method and it worked but only with the throttle trim up.

When I landed I tried it again to stop the motors (NAZA protocol) and promptly flipped it over. Only gripe with this quad is turning the motors off. If you land in RTH mode the motors will stop on their own but if you switch RTH off they will start again.
Please keep an eye on this as I had it spool up on the bench.

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Default 200QX Panoramic View

Finally got around to video recording with the 200QX.......

I used a $9.00 camera on this first try, did not want to waste time or damage my expensive cube serveillance camera on the first attempt.

There is 10min. of panoramic view.....first 1/2, camera is in full video mode. 2nd 1/2, camera is in auto still mode, rotated 180*.....had to bring the quad down to re-set camera modes. Both landings were poor (no damage) since the added weight caused bouncing and tipped over the quad.....need to practice this more now that I know the added weight (be it 2oz.) changes the hovering characteristics:



The vid quality isn't much to write home about, but the quad and vid are very stable in either high or low angle flights modes......no jello, just a bit jerky.........Now, onto attaching the better camera........should be pretty decent.....we'll see later on!

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That quad sounds like a winner.

Your arming sequence is just like the 350. I tried the two stick method and it worked but only with the throttle trim up.

When I landed I tried it again to stop the motors (NAZA protocol) and promptly flipped it over. Only gripe with this quad is turning the motors off. If you land in RTH mode the motors will stop on their own but if you switch RTH off they will start again.
Please keep an eye on this as I had it spool up on the bench.

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Since I added weight with camera, landings have been an adventure....blades on this little guy continue to rotate during landing......I have been practicing slower decents and using the throttle cut at just touchdown distance..........the added weight on the skinny stock legs causes bounce...which cause tip-over........motors do shut off at the slightest contact with any thing that does not move......and the flashers and beeping alarms waste no time annoying me.....lol

As for any "mystery" spool-ups.......have not experienced any of that, no NAZA, GPS, RTH protocol on this one......when she's shut down, she's shut down completely.

Getting ready to vid with the "expensive" cube......lol, it's smaller and lighter.......playing with lens angles (only have two choices)....I'm in no hurry, want to get the best editing quality I can.....embarrassing to post what quality I can get, amoungst all the semi-pro stuff. Does the Blade 200QX no justice (my skills excluded)........

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A good flying buddy of mine just retired from his day job and took on a part-time technical support management position at one of our LHS.......He's doing it to keep active and happens to be a close friend of one of the franchise owners.......

Anyway, gave me a call last night to come over to the shop this morning and participate in the "before opening hours" demo and sales pitch by one of the E-Flite salesman.......related to Blade quad after-market hop-ups, parts packages and flight demo's.......the subjects were the Nano, 200QX and 350QX.

Long story short, I was most interested in the after-market props and performance for the 200QX. Evidently, Horizon Hobby and E-Flite have been toying with a selection of larger diameter blades that provide better stability for the stock chassis geared towards the growing popularity of obstacle racing and AP/AV with the 200QX and 350QX.

Currently, E-Flite offers sport and agility props for both the 200 & 350......same diameter as the stock props with higher pitch angles.......meant for those who are inclined to invert and desire increased pitch/yaw agility......but there have been many who have requested larger diameter much like what GemFan offers 5030, 5045.......I just purchased a couple of sets of GemFan 5030......should be here Saturday.

The sales rep brought out a stock and modified 200 & 300's......the stock models had larger props. the modified models had alot of changes to the chassis, motors and props. I flew the stock 200QX, 5030 set-up on a DX8 that was not tuned much.........Think I'm gonna like the 5030 GemFan's.......it was a little breezy out in the parking lot, but the 200 held a + 75' hover in low stability and high stability modes, rock solid. With much less stick input than with the 4" stock props.........great for better quality vids in the wind...!.....and they are still very zippy.

I gave a shot in agility mode (I don't invert), after poking by my buddy, with the 5030 type props....even though the sales-rep stated they are not sport props......he was right........the 200 was a handfull (it is even with the 4" sport props)......all went well....won't be considering bigger props for sport mode flying..........but the sales rep stated that they are considering offering a larger diameter sport prop in the future.

I hung around for about an hour and watched a couple of pro's toss around the modified 350QX like it was Nano......just amazing.

I'll post my flying experience with the 5030 GemFan's as soon as they get broke in.......

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The flight times on the 200QX with the 5030 type props and the stock 2s, 7.4v, 800mAh 20c, flying in low and high stability modes didn't vary much from what I generally get from stock 4" and sport props.....btw 7 & 8.5min.s in breezy conditions.....we'll see if that's the case with the GemFans....!

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Just installed and test flown GemFan 5030's (indoors), to windy to chance it, first go around.



Mostly hover and small quick agility moves....in low and high stability modes only. Ran through two battery packs......got about +8min on each. The 200 did not run any hotter than what has been normal (indoors)........a few at RCG stated their 200's ran hotter....who really knows how they were flown......lol

A few tips related to the GemFan's.......

They come in both normal and reversed (their terminology)......so I purchased black reverse and orange normal. They also come with three types of prop insert sleeves......I found the thinnest ones worked best with the stock lock washer....you will need another wider diameter, thin washer to mount below the lock and nut.......the lock washer will not seat because it's diameter is to small.

Also, the plastic prop sleeves really need to be glued (CA) into the prop shaft hole.......they will slip around and not bind into the shaft....no matter how tight you lock the nut, without CA.

Anyway, they fly much like what I (anticipated) and experienced at the LHS.........+vertical response is very quick....horizontal a tad-bit less responsive than the stock 4".

More info to come after I fly them-out-of-doors.........

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Got one full battery flight out doors with the GemFans....7.5mins.

Wind was picking up speed far faster than I was willing try another flight with the mini-cam........got to say though, the bigger blades really hold a solid hover at low and high altitudes in the 10 to 12mph conditions......the 200 still gets pushed around, but stick management is alot less stressful and more predictable....even with the DX6i rates tuned. No way these blades should be considered for aggressive sport or agility mode flight.......they are much thinner than the stock 4" and flex quite a bit when rotating through axis banking, making recovery much slower and a requiring a lot of throttle gain to maintain lift......did not have any (control board/motor) stability glitches as has been reported on RCG when pushing quad hard.....then again, it was windy and I was being cautious......like always.......

When weather conditions calm down, intend to strap on the mini cam and see how much of a difference the 5030's make....!

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