What is a good 3D beginner airplane??

[stevecooper]

Originally Posted by microflight

i have been practicing on a simulator with an aircraft lie the extra 300 and ive been able to pull off flat spins, tumbles, inverted stuff and basic stuff like that, and should i get a better controller than the dx5e that i currently own??? thanks i know im a beginner and how frusterating that can be.

I fly my micro 4-site & extra 300 micros on my DX 5 ,,does great,, I fly all my 3/d planes do'in everything in the book on 10-12 year old FM TX's with no expo or bell's & whistles,,, back in the day we didn't have computer TX's with all the tweeks and trim mix, Etc,, you can learn to fly with your thumbs or spend a little more,,Don't let your lack of a fancy pork'ie'pine 2.4 TX stop you from flying any plane out therebubsteve

[Pete48]

Don't forget about the "you can do 3D" by Great Planes. The fuselage and wing can actually flex and bend...

Unfortunately, my brother found out the hard way that he "can't" do 3D.

[squidger]

I bought one of those couple of years ago. Trust me you dont want one.Prob the worse aircraft I ever flew.

[Pete48]

Here's ours after last Saturday!

[phillipmorris]

Am quite new to 3D Flight, but ran into the Nirtroplanes Sbach, wow it has some speed, did nose it up, so far seems to be nose heavy else a hoot to fly, landing needs power not the deadstick floater, but still working on moving the rear COG. More conventional flights at the moment. If you don't have a transimitter the RTF version isn't bad as dial in settings,

In the wings have a Precision Aerobatics Katana, purchased online and looks beautiful, balsa, will hold back on this one till more Sbach flying as a more easily repairalbe foamy.

[squidger]

Happens sometimes Pete. Look on the bright side, you now have room for a new model.

[Doc Austin]

There are a lot of different ways to go, but for the newer pilos who are glying a T28 or something, the best option is foam. I am currently flying a Twisted Hobbgys Sbach, but we had a fun video with their new Crack Yal, and I plan to get one of those.

Make sure you get to the very bitter end, after the credits, to see the butt catch:

VIDEO:

http://vimeo.com/36608157

For more experienced pilots who have already been flying conventional aerobatics, you can go into 3D with almost anything good. Most 3D planes are stable and agile, so as long as you have good orientation skills and a reasonable mastery of conventional aerobatics, a good balsa 3D plane will seve you well.

[jackword]

The new micro beast with the stability control is unbelievable! Hobby Zone BNF $139.

[Nitro Blast]

I'd reccomend this from Techone, or a AirfoilZ Edge or Yak.
The Yak (from 2 Dog RC) is now available from NitroPlanes.

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59294

[huayuhobby]

EPP Foamy planes will be good option, like Yak 54, Extra 330, Edge -540 ...

[WayfaringDreamer]

Originally Posted by losifanatic

Before buying a plane I highly recommend a better radio. Since you alreadu fly Spektrum I recommend a dx7 or dx8. The dx6i is not a very good radio and WILL hinder performance on a 3D aircraft. So first and formost buy a GOOD radio. with that radio you will notice how much nicer and easier your current planes will fly. Then you will be ready to get a 3D plane.

I have dx6i can someone explain why it is not a good radio and will hinder performance on a 3D aircraft?

[losifanatic]

Poor resolution and very high latency are the main things. Also the EPAs are not very good so you dont get full travel out of your servos compared to other radios.

[stevecooper]

Originally Posted by WayfaringDreamer

I have dx6i can someone explain why it is not a good radio and will hinder performance on a 3D aircraft?

see my post # 26,,, you can 3/D well with nearly any TX,, I'm useing a 9 year old TX FM at the SEFF 3/D smack-Down this year,, done it before and most will say I done just fine,,,,If you don't get the throw you need use longer servo 3/D horn's,, I've been Wow'ed watching friends 3/D with their DX-6's,, just my two cent's worth,bubsteve

[losifanatic]

Longer servo arms only make your resolution worse. Trust a good tx makes a huge difference all around

[stevecooper]

Originally Posted by losifanatic

Longer servo arms only make your resolution worse. Trust a good tx makes a huge difference all around

Like I said ,,just my two cents worth,, I really haven't heard much about this resolution prob you speak of,, I'll look into it as I was think'in about getting a used one SEFF,, I've only heard good stuff about the "6" but never owned one and will do some more research on it, The DX 6's I have flown (several)seemed fine to me, bubsteve

[losifanatic]

if you ever get the chance to set up a plane with a dx6i and a dx7s you will be amazed at the difference. 512 resolution compared to 2048 and full travel out of the radio. Also a latency from 60 to 80ms down to only 22 or 11ms in the high responce mode with digital servos. Alot to gain for just going up one class of radio.

[jw357_23043]

Originally Posted by losifanatic

if you ever get the chance to set up a plane with a dx6i and a dx7s you will be amazed at the difference. 512 resolution compared to 2048 and full travel out of the radio. Also a latency from 60 to 80ms down to only 22 or 11ms in the high responce mode with digital servos. Alot to gain for just going up one class of radio.

OMG!!! I made the switch about 2 years ago and all I have to say is wow!! NO more turning this clevis or that clevis to remove a bind or lose the throw I'm looking for in a surface. Whew, I love my DX7. Setup was easy. As for expo I have to agree that the small micro's require it. My UMX Beast was a PITA when I tried to fly it without expo and I've been flying over 20+years off and on.

[TopSpin]

Just finished this a few days ago and need a calm day to wring it out. Cheap flat foamie but a nightmare to assemble so it had better fly right or I will dissasemble it the hard way.

[stevecooper]

Originally Posted by TopSpin

Just finished this a few days ago and need a calm day to wring it out. Cheap flat foamie but a nightmare to assemble so it had better fly right or I will dissasemble it the hard way.

Looks great, they can be a pain in the butt to get all the Carbon rods on and keep it strait while your do'in it, what TX you gonna use?, Bubsteve

[archd7]

I would say a parkmaster. That is what I learned on and it takes a beating!

[jw357_23043]

I found an old 45" Extreme Flight Extra and tormented it. I have crashed that plane and it asks for more. Blew the firewall out at SEFF and at my field, ripped the wing and LG off. In all about 5 hours of repairs it still flies great and IMO balsa flies better and you actually get that "Balsa Plane" feel. Regardless of plane type you're going to eat the dirt at some point if you want too learn 3D. Just do things high enough to become proficient and then bring it down. When it comes to hovering that is something I feel needs to be learned down low as the perspective of the plane is harder to judge up high. Besides, with a small model the damage is minimal to none if you drop it on the tail as I have done quit a few times at 6 to 10 feet. In all, just go for it!!

[road king 97]

Ultron 3-D plane plans and videos are here http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...ghlight=ultron I bought 3 sheets of dollar tree foam for 3 dollars and pulled the paper of of them to build mine and used gorrila glue cause iam cheap. Here is mine almost ready for the radio and motor . I still have some sanding on my fuse and i need to tape my big ail on buts its close . joe

[helen3]

The F/A-18 known as the Hornet is a supersonic, all-weather, carrier-capable, multirole fighter jet.

[Nitro Blast]

Originally Posted by helen3

The F/A-18 known as the Hornet is a supersonic, all-weather, carrier-capable, multirole fighter jet.

And your point is?



(me smells something fishy as that is the farthest thing from a Beginner, 3D plane as you can get)

[alcarafa]

Cheap , performs well and equipment required is available at same place.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...00mm_KIT_.html