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Old 10-05-2012, 09:15 PM   #1
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Default Ace-In-The_Hole at Las Vegas Nev. October 12 - 14 2012

This all electric annual event is being held in Las Vegas at Bennett Field. The "official" dates are from the 12th of October through the 14th of October. That's Friday starting at 12:00 noon, Saturday and Sunday at 08:00. There is a Pilots Meeting at Noon on Friday and at 09:00 both Saturday and Sunday.

I have attended this event each year since 2007 and have taken photographs at the event since 2009. (My daughter gave me a DSLR for Christmas in '08!! LOL!!)

I would like to cover the event for Wattflyer if that is possible as I know quite a bit about the Field and the people that attend and fly there. Most all of the people are regular guys (some gals too!) and usually very friendly. I try to get as many photos as possible of the people flying AND their aircraft.

Most photos I "post" will be hosted on my website and just be linked here. It is easier for me to do it that way as I will have the photos up permanently.

Like this shot of Bennett Field. I chose this photo because it also includes in the foreground, the "SWAMP" as it is affectionately called by the pilots. Tall very thick and VERY thorny brush. Your plane goes in there - you are going to be bleeding when and if you recover it!! LOL!! Ask me how I know that!!





http://www.vegasaceinthehole.com/

The "link: to the official website. Pilot passes were $25 for all three days for AMA members.


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First photos. These are just photos taken at Bennett Field today (Wednesday October 10, 2012). It was nice but cloudy and a little breezy. Here you go...

The field has sure changed from last year. The west fence is gone - very good! And the west end parking lot fence is now gated for easy access - also very good!

There wasn't much going on today but I was primarily here to "try" out a few things anyway and they all worked - so - watch for some funny time lapse video from the event coming soon to a post near here!! LOL!!


























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Rained on an off ALL day today (Thursday) - BUT - there were some pretty hardy souls at the field and they came to FLY!!


Brent (he's Corsair Nut on the "other" forum) was attempting to fly his HUGE T-45. Got it all assembled and tested and actually throttled it up to taxi out onto the runway for take off - then - blipped the throttle a little hard and there was a loud "pow!" and blue smoke started pouring out of the plane from everywhere!! After a dis-assembly - it was discovered that one of the Turnigy 120 ESC's had cooked off in the plane. IF - Brent can find, beg, borrow, or buy another Turnigy 120 ESC - OR - get another matched pair of equal capacity ESC's he may be able to try again before the event is over. Huge if!! If the weather will cooperate AND he can get the ESC problem solved AND id there is time before or after the official event times!! LOL!!




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Old 10-05-2012, 09:18 PM   #4
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Pooped again!! Very hard day for me. Friday October 12, 2012. It rained and hailed last night here in Las Vegas. Winds reportedly were about 65mph. The field is in very good shape though and the day looks promising, John Morgan from Chappel Hill, Tennessee assembled his AC-119K Stinger Gunship for it's maiden flight to day. Also the T-38's of Corsair Nut (Brent) and Falcon5 (Andy) were both flown today - and both were lost to unfortunate electrical failures. The only "crashes" so far. Brent borrowed a ESC from EffluxRC (Gary) so that he could replace the Turnigy ESC that failed (melted) on the runway Thursday. He spent a good deal of Thursday evening and night to get everything soldered up and refit in the plane so that he could try again Friday. The take off was uneventful and the plane flew nice but WAS underpowered (using two 90mm fans). It DID fly though and was well above stall speed. After about three circuits (rolls were done as well as some inverted flight.) there was no sound but a puff of smoke came out of the plane as it was at the west end of the runway and it lost significant power - the "other" Turnigy ESC had melted mid air - mid flight. The single EDF still running (Castle HV ESC) was unable to provide enough thrust for sustained flight so Brent yelled out "Emergency Landing" and made a 180 degree turn over the landing strip. Unfortunately in his haste to get it lined over the strip he was too high and way too fast still to get down. He forced it down in a very shallow dive. The gear and flaps were fully deployed. The plane touched down hard mid field and bounced into the air for another 80 feet of so and then planted itself firmly on it's wheels - but - it was still moving right along at about 60mph and just ran out of runway. It went off the east end of the runway and the nose of the plane clipped a 1" cable strung between rails (to keep the off roaders off the strip! LOL!!) and slammed into a rail post. The front nose section was broken off as was the entire wing section as the retaining bolts were ripped out at the post. The flight was nice but those ESC's certainly were NOT underrated and in fact I don't think Brent will be using them in the future!!

Andy's T-33 had flown before and was NOT a maiden at AIH. His T-38 took off very easily and made multiple circuits of the field. He also did some rolls and a little inverted. Then on what I would guess to be the fourth pass (maybe the fifth as these were not circular passes but more tri ovals! LOL!!) there was a noticable loss of power. The plane would lose altitude in a turn and it could NOT regain so the power was definately down. Andy dropped the gear to prep for landing and attempted to make slow FLAT turns to come around to line up with the field. By making his turns as flat as was possible he hopped to keep his altitude up and use what little thrust he had to get her back to the strip. Wasn't to be. The flat turns took him WAY out in a huge circle away from the flight line and as he was making what should have be his final approach turn she just completely lost power and stalled into the east "swamp" (really thick brush and tree area) at the east end of the runway. The plane was recovered though and although broken in several pieces it IS repairable - maybe. Turns out a cold solder joint in a main battery junction wire failed in flight. The plane had flown numerous times before this so why the joint chose this time to fail is anyone's guess. After the failure the EDF's were operating on only one set of batteries - and quickly depleated them to LVC - and total failure of the power system.


Since this is the post for Friday I am including the time lapse video if the flight line. The camera was set directly across from the flight line at Bennett Field. Please note that this video is 8 minutes long. Also note the clouds that form, dissipate and move in varying directions as the day passes. The camera took a shot about every 14 seconds throughout the day. I started it about 08:00 a.m. and stopped it around 2:00 p.m. so there were a lot of "frames" to deal with.

http://youtu.be/l2xfIuYa0F8


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I need a place to put videos. So this is it!! I shot a LOT of video as I made a mount for my DSLR that allows me to mount a Sony "Bloggie" on top and shoot video at the same time I am shooting stills.

Here is a Time Lapse video compiled from single photos taken about every 12 to 14 seconds over a 5 hour period at the event.
**** WARNING **** This video is 11 minutes long!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNp2r...ilBuoMFEJzIGIg

Also another one - this is a short one!! LOL!!

Randy Holt is flying Wade Joos larger WWII B-17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAljm...ilBuoMFEJzIGIg

How about Bernie's TWO super huge B-52's flying at the same time?? Want to see them? Click here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie2mJ...ilBuoMFEJzIGIg

Because I am still unable to link to files (haven't had time to create them yet!!) I will just post attachments for now and change them later.

This post will grow!! As I add videos of this event.

Woody's maiden flight of his fantastic Hurricane model (Windrider) he scaled out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLbEq...ilBuoMFEJzIGIg

Here is the video of CN's T-38. Strong crosswind (changed as he lined up for take off).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRIGa...ilBuoMFEJzIGIg

And here is the video of Andy's T-38 flight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-x8L...ilBuoMFEJzIGIg







Here's the first photo I got AFTER they located the plane. It was in the rough brush just "above" where it is in this photo.


Brent and Andy are making sure they have all the pieces and everything is accounted for.


Several trips will be needed to get it all out.


Here they are dragging out the main pieces.


Got to get it out to the "road".


Pooped!


Waiting for the Calvary to arrive.


Recovery team at the home stretch.






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Finally got some pages made.





Corsair Nut poses with his T-38 scratch built plane. Twin 90mm EDF's.


It was rainy but these guys came to Vegas to FLY!


A bigger foamy profile F-16 flown by Hans-Joachim who came from Germany to attend this event.



Maiden flights were the order of the day. Really nice plane - scratch built too. Mostly from blue foam! LOL!!


Flew really nice too!!







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Looking forward to your report. But not because I'm waiting to see how the event turned out as I will be there too.

Hopefully I'll get some good DSLR shots as well to add to the report.

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Well...you know the buggaboo about cameras doncha Pat?

If you're TAKING the photograph it's extremely hard to BE in the photograph!! LOL!!

I am going up Wednesday morning. I have a few things to set up and try. I am going to attempt to get some pretty solid coverage of this event for this year. I really don't want to let the cat out of the bag so to speak but have already tried a few things that "work" and have some ideas for other things too.

I am only taking two planes. A Superfly and a Solution. Both are capable of photo or video work!! LOL!!

I am taking 7 Digital cameras - including two DSLR's. I am taking 3 video cameras. And I intend to "shoot" everything I can. I know most of the people that attend - at the very least by sight if not on a first name basis. I would like to see a few of the better ones come here as I really think they would like the more relaxed atmosphere here than the other forum but people are funny that way and some are pretty set in their ways so...

Fabulous planes are coming this year and I thought it deserved some coverage here. If I knew how to start a thead in the "Events" section I would have done it there but you (at least I) can't start threads there.

This is good that you will post here too (I hope). I had also planned to attend Big Jolt too - if everything works out for me. I saw you have a thread for that so I might post photos there if I get to go!! LOL!!

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I'll get Admin to create sections for Ace and Big Jolt in the Special Events section.

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Awesome!!

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OK, the forums for AITH and Big Jolt have been created. This thread has now been moved to the AITH forum.

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Also, here's a link to the event website

www.vegasaceinthehole.com

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Thanks Pat I should have done that right off the bat. I have some good "ideas" about things I want to try at the event and I will tell you about them (and possibly be able to "show" you a little) when I see you there. I'm old, fat and will be carrying at least one camera ALL the time. I wear dark blue or black shorts and a pocket "T" shirt - shirt colors may vary!! LOL!! Will be most easily found along the flight line!

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I'm sure I'll find you easy enough. If not, come see me at my booth for Nico Hobbies.

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Will Do.

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Here are a few more photos from the AIH in Vegas.











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I'll post a few more of the Friday photos and then I will be set to start Saturday photos. The time lapse video is pretty good - long - but good. I will see if I can pare it down some.

Air 2 air shot of Air Sally's F-86 making the rounds friday morning early. He says it looks like a typical combat run in Korea in '51. LOL!!


John Morgan's fabulous AC-119K gunship. Hard to believe it was constructed primarily of blue foam!


Scratch built over 8 months and at liftoff it needed one click of left trim. That's all. Flew pretty as a picture!


Scale shot. Give you an idea if the size of this plane. It ain't your typical foamy!!!





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On to Saturday's photos.

I'll start with Corsair Nut (Brent) flying his Sniper XL. Because he is such a good pilot CN usually makes "camera" passes if you ask nicely!!



He was really feeling it on that day!! Multiple passes at least "landing" low but at close to full speed!!


Both directions too!!





He makes going 120mph look easy!! LOL!!






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Some really nice planes were flown at the AIH 2012.


Another of the A-26


Just one more of it after the landing...



And Wade Joos really fine B-17 as flown by Randy Holt.






Looked really good - especially flying! This plane had about a 70" wingspan and was NOT a foam plane. Well detailed and looked every bit the WWII mission leader.








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There were a number of WWII aircraft at the meet and they were superb.



Woody's Hurricane was well detailed too. Had an opening canopy and detailed cockpit. It was a fine example of a BOB plane!









Originally started as your basic Windrider kit. Woody took great pains to do this one up right. I though it looked as good as any I have ever seen.




I have a few more photos and a few more details to post here so keep watching.




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I saw a very nice little "plane" at the event which I had not seen before and it so impressed me that I will have to have one!
It is manufactured by FancyFoam.com and is called a Skycart. When I first saw it running around on the runway (at very high speeds too I might add) I thought it was really cute - but then it dropped the rear axle and took off and flew/floated around like a plane!








It could do almost ANY 3D maneuver I had ever seen and it was very "floaty" in the air. It would float power off and stay upright and looked really good doing it. I was impressed with this little guy. There are several different types of "drivers" you can have and they are photo overlays on a foam base so easy to do. The thing is made from EPP foam so it is quite durable and is pretty fast on the ground too!!

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Heya Hillbilie
Great job of covering the event with great pic's and i really enjoyed them.
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There were several areas I was lacking in my coverage. I tried pretty hard but there is just simply too many things happening for one person to be able to get it all. I was worn out by Saturday evening and sadly knew I hadn't gotten everything I wanted. The weather was not as good as it has been in past events and I was too stretched trying to do it all by myself. I learned I need a partner to help me pretty badly! LOL!!

I am already planning NEXT years visit!!

I am glad you enjoyed the coverage and although the two "big" birds were lost at the event one is currently being rebuilt (Corsair Nut's) and WILL fly again.

John Morgan is back home and doing fabulous finish detail work on the AC119k now that he knows it will fly.

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The 2013 Ace-In-The_Hole event is approaching fast! The dates are October 11th - 12th - 13th. I'm am quite sure almost all of last years participants are returning - with new planes of course as well as many from last year. The lineup looks to be better than ever!

John Morgan is bringing his new F-7-F Tigercat for it's maiden and I'm sure many flights over the long weekend.

Andy is bringing his massive A-4 - Blue Angels.

and there will be many many more to see (and for me to photograph - I hope).

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Hillbille looking forward to following along with reports on the event, and your excellent photos.
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