what is theBest warbird parkflyer for a rookie

[mattman0182]

Well. After thinking and compromising with many of the aspects I am looking for... I think I am going to go with this:
http://www.parkzone.com/Products/Def...rodID=PKZU2180


Once I get good, I will go after what I really want.

[rcers]

Originally Posted by mattman0182

Well. After thinking and compromising with many of the aspects I am looking for... I think I am going to go with this:
http://www.parkzone.com/Products/Def...rodID=PKZU2180


Once I get good, I will go after what I really want.

What transmitter are you going to use?

[mattman0182]

Originally Posted by rcers

What transmitter are you going to use?

All I have is the one that came with the Champ. :/

Well that and a really old green parkzone

[rcers]

Wonder if the champ one will work - do you have the DSM2 version?

[mattman0182]

Originally Posted by rcers

Wonder if the champ one will work - do you have the DSM2 version?

Yes
Hopefully it works. But if I really have to buy another I will.

[rcers]

If you wish to continue in the hobby for long - you will need a much better system - no question.

Mike

[bestzhara]

Hi Matman0182
Great meeting you here, always nice to meet somebody so keen or new to the hobby. If I may and this is just my very humble opinion....the most important thing is to enjoy yourself!! The Champ will always remain a good little trainer but I know the feeling of wanting to go bigger and faster. I started off with a Champ as well but got bored and bought a Super Cub. Very much a trainer but much bigger but soon afterwards fitted a brushless motor and arelons. Still flying it and without any landing gear its not a problem at all. Currently flying an Sbach 342 high performance 1200 mm wingspan, its a sports plane....haha a whole different kettle of fish to say the least. But its as tough as nails being made out of EPP foam. But if I where you I will seriously go for the Trojan its a great plane to fly very forgiving but with enough challenge to keep you interested. Good luck and enjoy

[mattman0182]

Originally Posted by rcers

If you wish to continue in the hobby for long - you will need a much better system - no question.

Mike

Oh i have been obsessed with warbirds my entire life. I like the xbox style transmitters. but i guess there is not many of them.

[kyleservicetech]

Originally Posted by mattman0182

Oh i have been obsessed with warbirds my entire life. I like the xbox style transmitters. but i guess there is not many of them.

If you have any RC clubs in your area, check on what radio systems they are using.

Around here in South East Wisconsin, my club members are 95% Spektrum or JR radio systems, using the genuine Spektrum receivers, none of those China rip off counterfeits. For those members flying the Spektrums, perhaps 30% of them are using the DX6 series, the rest of them are using the higher DX7's, DX8's DX18's and the top of the line JR stuff for those $$$$ wet turbine models.

[yamahafunkplayer]

Originally Posted by mattman0182

Hello, the only current plane I have is a Horizon Champ. I want to move onto a park size or smaller warbird. I know it is a pretty big jump but I have faith in myself. The Champ is cool, but a plane with no alerons gets boring after a while.
It is also in need of a total rebuild. (Thats what I get for letting GF and Best friend fly it.) Instead of ordering all new parts, I wanted to move on to a new plane. (I will still eventually rebuild the Champ).

I am obsessed with WWII aircraft, mainly those of the Luftwaffe. Especially the BF109.
From what I read, the German aircraft are generally not friendly to beginners as fresh as I lol.

I have almost made the decision to purchase the Airfield 800mm Zero from Nitroplanes. From what I read it seems as though this would be a good start. Thoughts?

I would reccomend at least 1000mm or bigger. Bigger means easier to see and easier to fly. I had a great time with Airfield's 1100mm Hellcat from nitroplanes. It used to be ARF and RTF, now only available as a kit for 66$. Flies easy, but still can do aerobatics pretty well. Almost unbreakable and easy to mod for bigger motors, props etc. I put a 35-36 and a 12 x 8 on it and it was amazing. Crashed a million times and she still flies pretty well. the 800mm are really fast and very touchy, so I would avoid them. The next step up will be the 1500mm class. dynam and airfield both have several warbirds in this category as kit, ARF or RTFs. Dynams kits are much higher quality in my experience. Good Luck!

[rcers]

Originally Posted by mattman0182

I like the xbox style transmitters. but i guess there is not many of them.

Correct - there really aren't any like that. The "style" is less important the function. You do need to go the the LHS and handle a few and see what you like.

Mike

[mattman0182]

Originally Posted by rcers

Correct - there really aren't any like that. The "style" is less important the function. You do need to go the the LHS and handle a few and see what you like.

Mike

Yea i mainly like that style because of how it feels in my hand. I am all for as light and compact as possible. Of course, i want one that I can also use for future planes. At the moment id go about 50 bucks for one.

As far as aircraft, I am nearly certain to order the Horizon UM Spit. To me it is the best compramise between price, parts, etc. It is snall, but easiest on the budget. And if i learn on that. the bigger ones should come easier.

My closest LHS is nearly 50 miles away. In the next state of Deleware.

[Chucksolo69]

Here's my experience with the FMS 800mm warbirds. I bought an 800mm FMS P-40 Warhawk and liked the look of the plane itself. The paint and graphics were well done. The hardware and electronics.............not so much. The control horns didn't line up well and seemed rather flimsly, especially the way the rear stab/elevator assembly went together. I gave it to my "builder" friend and he got it in the air and the ESC blew 5 minutes into the flight and she augered in. The plane was a total loss. Subsequently two of my buddies have the FMS 800mm T-28 Trojan planes, one has the gray one the other the white. Both have a nasty habit of taking off and then rolling to the right. They have not been able to fix them of that habit. For a first warbird I always recommend the Parkzone T-28 Trojan full sized plane. It is docile, very stable and easy to fly.

[rcers]

I agree Chuck - and for sure those "cheap" airplanes are, well, cheap. Sometimes it is just worth saving for better engineering and a company that has parts and will stand behind their technology.

We tried to get him on the T-28 path but alas that failed. You can lead a horse to water..... O well.

Mike

[mattman0182]

If not for the hefty price tag id be all over the T28

[rcers]

Save more money.

[Chucksolo69]

I would opt for the PZ UM T-28 before the Spitfire. The Spitfire is really squirrley and can be a handful while the Trojan is rock solid and a joy to fly. I have both and prefer to fly the T-28.

[mattman0182]

What about the PZ Wildcat?

[Chucksolo69]

Yeah, those fly pretty stable too, but are belly landers as they lack landing gear. They are pretty much limited to flying in grass for that reason.

[mattman0182]

Originally Posted by Chucksolo69

Yeah, those fly pretty stable too, but are belly landers as they lack landing gear. They are pretty much limited to flying in grass for that reason.

Most of the places in which I fly have grass. Only a couple are paved.

[mattman0182]

thinking about getting that DX5e transmitter also. id basically be doing parkflyer and micros. but would i be able to use this transmitter with non horizon aircraft? the PNP aircraft are a lot cheaper than RTF. And even BNF. Ill know my plane choice within the next couple days.
it is between. UM Spit. UM Trojan. PZ Wildcat. Thanks to advice from you guys, my second plane will be a Horizon product.

[rcers]

The DX5e is a super cheap basic transmitter with no computer functions. I HIGHLY recommend a computer radio system. That for sure is worth saving your money for.

Mike

[mattman0182]

Originally Posted by rcers

The DX5e is a super cheap basic transmitter with no computer functions. I HIGHLY recommend a computer radio system. That for sure is worth saving your money for.

Mike

What is the big advantage of the computer function? Most other radios are hundreds of dollars.

[rcers]

They offer the ability to fly and store settings for more than one model. They offer stuff like:

• Dual rates
• Triple rates
• Exponential control (VERY important as you advance)
• Servo end point adjustment
• Servo centering adjustment
• Computer controlled mixes
• Delta wing
• V - tail
• Flap to elevator mixes
• Aileron and rudder mixes
• Trim step
• Servo monitors
• Servo reversing
• Flight conditions
• Differential throws
• Timers (very important!)

Those are just a few things computerized systems offer. The best thing is they will save all your settings for each model (like trim settings!). I realy feel that you will wind up spending MORE money in the long run if you keep making decisions for the most basic of offerings.



I would far rather have $50 down on a good radio system. I saw a DX7 go for 125 shipped with two receivers the other day. That is cheap!



I understand everyone has a budget - but really feel it is worth the time to wait and save for certain items. Chargers and radios are two SUPER important things - they last many years and can work hard for you. The DX5 is something you will outgrow with your very next airplane.


Mike

[mattman0182]

Originally Posted by rcers

They offer the ability to fly and store settings for more than one model. They offer stuff like:

• Dual rates
• Triple rates
• Exponential control (VERY important as you advance)
• Servo end point adjustment
• Servo centering adjustment
• Computer controlled mixes
• Delta wing
• V - tail
• Flap to elevator mixes
• Aileron and rudder mixes
• Trim step
• Servo monitors
• Servo reversing
• Flight conditions
• Differential throws
• Timers (very important!)

Those are just a few things computerized systems offer. The best thing is they will save all your settings for each model (like trim settings!). I realy feel that you will wind up spending MORE money in the long run if you keep making decisions for the most basic of offerings.



I would far rather have $50 down on a good radio system. I saw a DX7 go for 125 shipped with two receivers the other day. That is cheap!



I understand everyone has a budget - but really feel it is worth the time to wait and save for certain items. Chargers and radios are two SUPER important things - they last many years and can work hard for you. The DX5 is something you will outgrow with your very next airplane.


Mike

My goal is to have a park or micro size of every Luftwaffe aircraft I can. Mainly the 109 also 190 and one day even a 262. I also eventually wantan F86 and p38. I am not into giant planes.
Just for now i want to stay within this budget. Roughly 200 dollars. I will get good equipment with my next plane. Eventually I will.get to a LHS, as I have none in my imediate area. Do any do payment plans? then Id get a decent computerized radio.