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Old 01-04-2013, 07:12 AM   #1
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Default Flyzone (HOBBICO) Millennium Master (RxR & TxR)

Just a quick note of what I have experienced with this new Model known as the Millennium Master from Flyzone (HOBBICO - TOWER Product).

I had complete confidence on the model as it came out of the box so, I followed ALL instructions carefully and to the "T" and my maiden result was not all that nice. Please note a buddy bought the same model and his maiden went okay on the same day.

To save you from going to other RC Discussion Threads, I am going to provide you with the Letter I sent to Electronicsupport at Hobbico.

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Dear Sir or Madame:

On Friday, 12-28-2012, I purchased the Flyzone Millennium Master TxR from Bob's Hobby Center in Orlando, Florida. I have been in the hobby for 40+ years and like to say that this model is very well designed and it handles like a baby doll. I say this because my buddy bought one as well and I video recorded his flight.

However, my model had an issue with an erratic Throttle condition and as you know the motor is controlled by the Brushless Electronic Speed Controller (ESC) of which I have not been able to locate any Programming Instructions to figure out why my motor is being STOPPED all of a sudden during high speed RPMs around 1/2 Throttle and then, it starts back UP again causing the Propeller, Propeller Adapter and Spinner assembly as a whole to depart my Flying Model during a high steep climb and resulting in a stall and crashing. I have documented this condition carefully and recorded many Video footage of the defective product. Needless to say my model is not in its pristine condition out of the box as a result of this defective Electronics (ESC).

In my troubleshooting, I have eliminated the STOCK provided 1800mAH Lithium Polymer battery, the ANY-LINK RF device, the STOCK 37mm Brushless Outrunner motor and to verify it is in fact the ESC, I replaced the ESC with one of your competition (E-Flite 30-AMP Switch Mode ESC). The STOCK motor, if I may say (You can verify this by watching my Videos) very smooth commutation resulted throughout the Throttle Range, unlike the STOCK No Name, No Programming Instructions ESC that came with the model as I reached 1/2 throttle it made a horrible squelch noise and the Motor stop all of a sudden and a few mini-seconds later it starts up again while keeping the Throttle Stick at the same 1/2 throttle point.

I would like to discuss this matter with an experienced Technical Agent in your company and secure for a new model, if possible. I have repaired the existing model but, the Videos do not show the terrible condition of the frontal FUSE nor those delicate and fragile Decals that almost looks like paint (Very Poor feature of this model).

Here are links to the Videos!

1. Video showing the STOCK ESC producing the condition I have described above (first one is CRASH):
2. Videos showing a reproduction of the In-Flight Condition exhibiting from the STOCK ESC:
https://vimeo.com/56600145

2A. Video showing a competitor's ESC (E-Flite 30-AMP Switch Mode):
https://vimeo.com/56604851

I hope that I have provided enough information so, someone can call me up as soon as possible. Understandably, I am very upset that my new shiny Model has been damaged at no fault of mine and the various videos show the issue on the STOCK ESC.
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Needless to say that today someone received their model and quickly wasted no time and assembled it to find an identical issue with his model and you all can see his Video up at:

http://youtu.be/qD4vBemj3ds
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:53 PM   #2
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Default More ESC issues!

I am sorry to report, another person is having STOCK ESC issues with this model as he reported over at:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=277
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Good morning! I am presently fending off a Cold or something similar and could not sleep so, I monitored the Shipping Progress on my Returned Millennium Master with a Defective STOCK ESC.

In looking at all the different STOPS (Arrivals / Departures) it may have been better for me to have Paid for Shipping (I always use FEDEX Ground) as I was amazed how many loops and passes my model did on UPS. It certainly went pretty fast from Nashville, Tennessee to Hodgkins, IL (took 10 hours and near Chicago).

However, I just don't understand why once at Indianapolis, Indiana from Nashville, TN, it did not veer towards the West from I-64 onto I-74 towards Urbana, IL.?? I mean the model went all the way to Chicago, IL. (approximately ~ 141 mile deviation).:o



Well, in any case it is sitting at Urbana, IL which is a stone's throw to Champaign, IL.

Also, I am impressed in the relatively large Facility HOBBICO has at this location which is North Champaign and right next door to a super large FEDEX facility!!!
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I just pray that the Box is still in one piece!
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Default A Gift from HOBBY SERVICES (HOBBICO - TOWER)!

Gals and Guys and Other Creatures

I just could NOT believe my eyes when I walked in my room to see this large box on my Desk Chair! Of course, I quickly opened it and to my pleasant surprise I found this!

TATIC 4-Channel 2.4G Transmitter that comes with the 6-Channel TACTIC Receiver!

I like to thank HOBBY SERVICES (HOBBICO - TOWER) for such a great gift!

I am stroked !




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Thumbs up Motion rc reply to my esc inquiry

Hi Carlos,
Tom is out of the office this week so I am responding to your message. First your point about ESCs – I agree the ESC is a crucial part to the plane’s power system and sometimes the documentation for them can be either cryptic or severely lacking. We’ve worked with several of our suppliers to improve the overall product manuals (larger, easier to read pictures, proper English translations, tips for new flyers, etc.) A logical next step is to improve the electronic component manuals which include the ESC. This will take some time as there are many different makes and models, but the good news is that most follow the same programming format. I’ll continue to work on a method to make it easier to understand all those beeps and tones, maybe a tutorial video even?

Second, regarding Hobbico specifically, we have a great relationship and we are located very close to their headquarters. They are very receptive to product improvement ideas and we have seen them release tech notes and make product design changes as a result of input from customers. I will forward your note about the need for improved ESCs instructions to the electronic components product manager and ask them to make improvements.

I greatly appreciate your feedback and suggestions for improvements.

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Default Got a Lightly Used MM!

yesterday I went to pick up that MM from Peterswolf (Millenium Master) that was on Sale in the Classifieds We agreed to a reasonable price considering that I had to drive almost 200 miles round trip to get it.

I am amazed and very pleased with the condition of the model as it looks like it came right out of the box. Peter installed a cool looking pilot that meets the Experimental Look part and he installed a cool Nose Wheel strut with shock absorbing pneumatic piston. The upgrade ESC that he installed will be dismounted because it came with the Hobby King connectors and of which none of my ESC - to - Battery setups use.

Additionally, I applied one coat of the Minwax Polycrylic Protective Finish clear, semi-gloss Water Base and now the model looks even better and protects those fragile decals.



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I inspected the MM and it seems like you have to dismount the Spinner, Propeller, and cowling in order to change out the ESC as I wanted. However, to avoid all this, I got lucky to find a local Hobby Shop that I don't frequent because they sell more RC Cars / Trucks than Airplanes and I just got off the telephone to find out that they have a soldering station and have both, XT-60's and ULTRA DEANS and they can custom make a conversion harness.

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Superb functional nose wheel strut!


http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=11300

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Default Harness!

got at Superior Hobbies in Orlando, Florida (One of a few hobby shops open during Labor Day holiday) and this one is very close to my house but, I do not frequent since they cater to RC Cars, Trucks, and Boats and they really don't have anything that flies. However, I was very impressed with the customer service and fast assembly to make what I needed!! Like their name says.....Superior Hobbies and they match the service just like they call themselves. I will be coming to them for other soldering work since they have at least three technicians certified in Soldering and they carry (stock) all of the different possible combination(s) of Connectors!!!

Since I did not come with my own wire nor connectors the entire job was right around $8+ US and now I have spare XT-60 connector!

Here is the harness!


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Guys,

Just reporting in to say that the lightly used MM I got from Peterswolf flew delightfully! I put two (2) batteries through it (2 flights)!

No, the model does NOT have the STOCK ESC!!

A few pictures showing the semi-Gloss shine with the MinWax product!













After 7 minute Typical Flight:
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Guys,

I just can't take the slow manners of this model with the STOCK 9 X 4.5 propeller so, I got into my Hobby Drawer and found a new APC Slow Flyer 9 X 6 and will be trying it out this morning!





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I was flying at Half Throttle and it was like flying with the STOCK propeller at Full.

At Full Throttle with the APC "Slow Flyer" 9 X 6 it zoomed nicely and sustained inverted passes were a thing of beauty

That nose gear with spring action does great on bumpy lumpy taxi way area!

Two flights of 7 minutes each and Loved the Up-Lines, very happy with the new Airspeed.
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Thumbs up Sunday morning (09-08-2013) Flights!

Hello guys,

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Thumbs up Video at YouTube!

I was alerted that not all can view my Videos up on Vimeo so, I uploaded the same Video to YouTube for carefree Viewing.

http://youtu.be/41idpVdmrzw
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Thumbs up Sunday Morning RC Flying (09-15-2013)

I flew my Millenium Master again this morning. This time he performed the BEST inverted LOW PASS straight down th runway at Moonport Modelers RC Club.

This plane can easily become someone's favorite sport/Pattern plane due to it's looks and flight!!

Gerry Rivera (simano) has great skill at Photography and here are more In-Flight pictures of the MM again!

Noticed how low I commanded the MM!



Warm Up Inverted Pass


The One that Counts!


My MM Kissed the Ground once again!


A happy Camper!
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