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Old 02-18-2014, 09:52 PM   #1
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Default Picked up an old Collection, looking for some insight

I guess this will second as my intro thread.
I haven't flown since I was a kid running free flight airplane kits with my COX peewee 020.
I just recently picked up some old ww2 era kits, unassembled, all but one in its original box.
I thought I would post them here to see if anyone had any info or background info on them.
One is a 1944 Higgins EB-1 rubber powered helicopter
One is a JASCO Thermic 50 glider
The third doesn't have a box and I'm waiting on it to arrive to identify. It comes with a CO2 motor still in its box.
The last is a Top Flite Piper Vagabond

The unknown plane comes with the two sheets of paper, one the rubber ration slip and the other a substitution slip.


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Old 02-18-2014, 10:28 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Northern Mike View Post
I guess this will second as my intro thread.
I haven't flown since I was a kid running free flight airplane kits with my COX peewee 020.
I just recently picked up some old ww2 era kits, unassembled, all but one in its original box.
I thought I would post them here to see if anyone had any info or background info on them.
One is a 1944 Higgins EB-1 rubber powered helicopter
One is a JASCO Thermic 50 glider
The third doesn't have a box and I'm waiting on it to arrive to identify. It comes with a CO2 motor still in its box.
The last is a Top Flite Piper Vagabond

The unknown plane comes with the two sheets of paper, one the rubber ration slip and the other a substitution slip.
What a great find Do you intend to keep them as they are , or build and fly them? It is always a bit of a dilemma trying to decide with things like this
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The CO2 motor is just tossed in the box... didn't originally come with that plane and is not appropriate for it.
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What a great find Do you intend to keep them as they are , or build and fly them? It is always a bit of a dilemma trying to decide with things like this
I don't think I personally would ever consider building them.
The bigger dilemma for me is how to display them so the kids can't get at them or to find someone more suited to own them.

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The CO2 motor is just tossed in the box... didn't originally come with that plane and is not appropriate for it.
I know the motor was just tossed in and didn't come with it. I am however assuming it is close to or around the same age as the model.
It will be hard not to run that motor though, just to see and hear one in person.
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CO2 motors are still made and sometimes very cheap on e-bay. The hard part is finding the right size CO2 cylinder to fill it. They typically call for a size 2/3 what is used in Crossman CO2 pellet pistol.

Usually they are very small motors. About right for a 12-15 inch span FF model.

I'd save the antique motor and if you want to experiment get a modern one cheap. The good quality ones are not so cheap... but a lot better than the antique.

Looking closer, I see parts and instructions from at least 3 different models in the box with the CO2 engine.
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CO2 motors are still made and sometimes very cheap on e-bay. The hard part is finding the right size CO2 cylinder to fill it. They typically call for a size 2/3 what is used in Crossman CO2 pellet pistol.

Usually they are very small motors. About right for a 12-15 inch span FF model.

I'd save the antique motor and if you want to experiment get a modern one cheap. The good quality ones are not so cheap... but a lot better than the antique.

Looking closer, I see parts and instructions from at least 3 different models in the box with the CO2 engine.
That third one looks like it could be a couple Of models in there. I believe someone was cleaning out their father or grandfather's basement and was looking for a quick trade. I am told there are a couple CO2 canisters in the box as well with the motor.
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What a great find Do you intend to keep them as they are , or build and fly them? It is always a bit of a dilemma trying to decide with things like this
I would be so torn on what to do with them. If they were started, finish them up, but completely disassembled leave them, but leave them where? On a shelf for how many years? The San Diego Air and Space Museum has a good size display of old model aircraft and transmitters, maybe see if they were intrested.

I'm either going to get good at flying em, or get good at fixin em!
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I would be so torn on what to do with them. If they were started, finish them up, but completely disassembled leave them, but leave them where? On a shelf for how many years? The San Diego Air and Space Museum has a good size display of old model aircraft and transmitters, maybe see if they were intrested.
I have had the same struggle with old guns and motorcycles. Leave them as they are, or get them going
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I have a CO2 motor, although mine is probably from the 70's

They will swing a much larger prop than you would expect.
My motor has about the piston diameter of a Cox .020, yet it has an 8"x4" prop.
It runs well, they are not for high RPM, you will just waste the CO2.

I would not build the kits, sometimes old balsa can get brittle, I have had pieces shatter in my hands, when they should have been 10x stronger.
Donation to an air museum, would be very noble of you.

On the other hand, if you want to sell them to fund new projects, you would probably do very well on Ebay. I just sold a 1973 kit, which cost me $55 back then, for $381 on ebay, with a late offer of $450, plus shipping costs. Some people are extreme collectors.

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Just a quick update as I only had a few minutes before running off to firefighter training.
Models arrived over night (pretty good for 3 business day shipping). The mistery planes have been identified (see pictures).
It looks like someone started doing some stick work on some of those unknown planes. I am going to pick through it to see what I can identify and go from there. I'm assuming it is considered valueless now, so I guess I'll try my hand at it. Haven't done it in about 25 yes.


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