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Old 11-07-2009, 12:38 PM   #1
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When taking off with a prop plane should I set up the ailerons so that I have a little up on the right aileron and down on the left to compensate the plane from going left due to torque
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Old 11-07-2009, 02:46 PM   #2
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Generally you can use a little right rudder on takeoff to compensate for the roll.
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:18 PM   #3
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I would only say yes if you TX of capable of say a take off mix, something that is turned off once in the air and even then I would still not do it.

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When taking off with a prop plane should I set up the ailerons so that I have a little up on the right aileron and down on the left to compensate the plane from going left due to torque
No. If you have the side and down thrust on the motor correct it should not be needed. And even if you do need some compensation for torque it's much better to learn to do it manually.

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Old 11-07-2009, 06:12 PM   #5
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Hello Makaveli956, Welcome to Wattflyer!
I agree with the earlier posters, it's better to trim the model with neutral settings and add adjustments manually.
Although it seems counter-intuitive (we know it will have a torque reaction, why not adjust for it before it happens?) the reality is we don't know when, how much and at what speed we will need it. Torque reactions generally lessen or disappear as the airspeed increase, when the flying surfaces become more effective.
So, you might set 2 degrees of left (rudder or aileron) as a trim and it helps the initial launch or take-off. But soon it becomes too much and you have another problem; It rolls left!
Now you have two problems. Compensating for the higher-speed left turn and a built-in trim.
I believe it is far easier to see and react to this problem manually, flying with neutral trim. This all assumes the model doesn't have any warps or misalignments, which compound the problem drastically.
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Old 11-07-2009, 06:25 PM   #6
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Rudder use on take off is just a learned skill all pilots must learn.
Do not try trim for it, that will only have it out of trim for flight.
And the only time you'd use the ailerons while still on the ground is in a crosswind to keep the windward wing from rising.

Now as the plane lifts off, there will usually be a tenedncy to bank left a tad and for this one must always be ready to give a little right aileron as the plane lifts off. But this effect goes away very quickly once all the forces balance out in the air. So no constant compensation is needed.
Only at the momment of breaking ground contact.

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Old 11-07-2009, 10:02 PM   #7
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there is always the possibility there is not a rudder...but since we are in the beginners forum i would guess there is
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Old 11-09-2009, 02:48 AM   #8
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Hiya mak
My first plane was a little profile hand toss bank and yank.(no rudder) I tossed it being rdy to compensate if it needed it. Now I don't even think about it, just a natural reaction from getting some stick time under my belt. You'll see
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