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Old 10-26-2006, 01:04 AM   #51
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After hunting around a bit I cant find them out anywhere just yet but would think that by next week they should show up at Tower. I bought mine at Galaxy Hobby http://www.galaxyhobby.com/ but know there sold out as I bought both. They claim they will have 2 more in late this week or early next week but I have heard that before.

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http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/240152.asp

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...=++&search3=Go

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Old 10-26-2006, 01:17 AM   #52
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I picked up my LSPJ today and mounted it on my MJ. I think if I can get one of these bad boys [Fun Jet] I will use my Himax 2815-3000KV motor. I just thought you guys might like to see the test data on this motor.
BTW, the 1st batch of LSPJ motors are being recalled. They were wound hotter than the 2800KV spec. RVincent [LS R&D guy] said you can return the motors to Hobby Lobby and they will replace it with the 2800 KV motor, however I'm keeping mine. I may buy a second motor at the correct 2800 KV rating, then I/you can run up to the 6 inch props. The hotter motor can only run up to the 5.4X4.5 prop with GOOD COOLING to the motor. The motors are rated at 185 watts at 18 AMPs max and you can see my data below.

Here is what I found in my static tests..............

4.1X4.1 10.7 Amps @ 116 watts
4.5X4.1 13 Amps @ 136 watts
5.5X4.5 18 Amps @ 180 watts

In the static tests the motor didn't heat up until I put the 5.5X4.5 prop on the motor. It ran pretty cool with the smaller props. I don't think I wil run the 4.1X4.1, I'll stick to the larger props for more thrust and speed. It got dark by the time I got the motor mounted to the MJ so if it isn't raining tomorrow morning I'll maiden her in the AM. However the weather don't look good at this point. I mounted the motor with 0 thrust, no up or down. Do I ned to add any up thrust in the mount or is level ok?

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Old 10-26-2006, 01:23 AM   #53
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Hey Kosh,

Thanks for the info. BTW did you say you were going to try a LSPJ motor on a Stryker? I think the Stryker will be way too heavy and draggy for this motor. It might work well on a FJ, but I think the motor was intended for 20oz. and lighter planes/park jets. Rvincent has a double stator version in the works that will compair to something like a Mega 16-15-4 motor. That would be a nice match for a Stryker.

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Old 10-26-2006, 03:04 AM   #54
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LHS didn't have the LSPJ motor and only the purple perils in stock. My Stryker would come in at 18.5 ounces all up weight with LSPJ and TP-2100 lipo so it would have been close enough just for testing. I have flown a F27 off a Little Screamer "DeNovo" with 8x6 and a TP-730 2 cell. While it wasn't too impressive for speed it did fly well.

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I ran a Himax 2816-0890 outrunner on a Stryker last year on a 11X8.5 prop. The thrust was amazing, it was funny watching it climb for what seemed like forever but at a slow speed. I have avideo of it somewhere, I'll look for it in my flies. Top speed might have been 35 or so MPH.

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Old 10-26-2006, 06:45 AM   #56
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Tower does have them on order, to be released late Oct (how late? I dunno).

Lemme pull up the link.

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http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXNXV5&P=7
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Old 10-27-2006, 12:35 AM   #58
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I can't say enough good things about this plane. I was lucky enough to get a kit from Europe though a group buy on Ezone. Mine is powered by a Mega 16/15/3, CC phoenix 45, 3s 2100 TP prolite and a 5x5 apc prop.

If you were turned off by the difficulity of flying the microjet, then this is the plane for you. Fly it fast and you can fly it slow. It is not as fast as a MJ using the same power, but some are using 500-600 watt systems to make up the difference. Easy to launch. I used the typical up elevon as I did for the MJ, but I have gone back to just the normal trim for launch with no problems.

This is a tough model. I had a midair the second day out. Sheared off the elevon and it went in on it's nose. Repairs took about 30 minutes and it was back out flying.

Guys, I have 2 microjets, a Twinjet and a projeti and this is the best hands down.

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Old 10-27-2006, 05:22 AM   #59
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Blaze45,

I saw that, it can't come out fast enough for my liking. I want it yesterday!!

John, you lucky dog. That is one fine machine. What prop and battery are you running? What is her AUW weight?? I really like the paint job.

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Old 10-27-2006, 06:30 AM   #60
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Post #160 has a flight report of the LSPJ motor on my MJ this AM.
http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/show...?t=6434&page=7

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Old 10-29-2006, 03:15 AM   #61
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My buddy Wingtips called and talked to Tower Hobbies the other day and they said they think they will get Fun Jets in next week. I hope so, they look like such smooth flyers. They appear to be somewhere between a Micro Jet and a Stryker. They can slown very well like a Stryker but you can also get em going real fast like a Micro Jet. I'm tapping my foot waiting for this plane.

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Sorry for the wait but there well worth it. Your correct or your incite about the FJ. In the 70 to 80 mph range the plane is silky smooth with no surprises for low level passes. It fill the the small gap between the 2. Mine got a workout today with two 12 minute flights and some full power passes and verts. The 6x4 prop is only drawing 21 Amps at full and 6 at half throttle I have some real flight time now and it many take a few days to get the smile off my face but WOW. This just jumped to the top of my list of planes that always get packed to go with now.

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Sounds like you had a gas!! It's been 24 MPH to 36 MPH winds around here for days! Yuck. Tomorrow morning promises 8 to 10 MPH winds in the early morning. I'm hoping to get to fly my new LSPJ with the 5.5X4.5 prop. It should have silly power.

Thanks for the report,
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Old 10-29-2006, 07:25 PM   #64
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CTD, I know what you mean about the winds lately, but my Unicorn has been keeping me flying.
Perfect day today, clear, light winds, and warm. I flew for 4 hours this morning. My Funjets both came out and got to stretch their legs, what a great time!
I went thru so many batteries and used 2 transmitter packs up too.
Tried touch and goes with the Funjet after doing some with the Easystar camera plane and it worked okay, just need someone to video for me.
Gonna take them out again this afternoon when the batteries are ready again.
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:21 AM   #65
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Hi guys,need some advice on this plane.I was "just passing" the LHS today,and couldn't resist it.What size servos do you think?
It's gonna be powered by an Align 400L 2500kv,probably on a 4S 2200 20C.I have the Picojet powered by a Mega 16/15/4 on 2100 3S,on a 7x5,which is nice,and also the Microjet on a little 3000kv as well,which is beserk,but I have trouble seeing it's orientation,it's too small...
I also have a coupla brushless Strykers,guess I like wings...
You guys that have built the plane,did you do any reinforcement anywhere? The plastic type rod that is the wing reinforcement,is it ok,or should I replace with a carbon one?
As for servo choice,I have a couple of Hitec 81's,and 81mg's as well,or maybe that is overkill and the 65HB's will be better??
Anything special I should look out for?
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I used the 81mg's in one of mine because thats what was on hand but the 65's would also work. I used heavier controlrods too. The factory spar is fine, no extra reinforcement is necessary, the plane is pretty well thought out.
The Align motors never impressed me that much except when I use the 2800kv 400lf on a Microjet, but that same motor on something as large as a Stryker of Funjet will not be that speedy. Try another 16/15/4 on 4 cells for much better performance.
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Hmmn not sure I agree with you on the motors,tho each to his own,and to change them is easy as.What a great mount setup,makes life easy.
Well I have put the small amount of parts together,and have one problem...the distance between the motor and the battery...which wires should I lengthen,motor to ESC,or ESC to battery...
Oh and I went with the 65's,and I hear you about the stock rods,not good enough IMHO.
Looking good so far.
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Edit:Finished,Align 2550kv inrunner,Towerpro 60amp ESC,20C 2200mAh 4S Electric Power lipo and an APC 6x4=33amps or so at WOT.
I would have expected a bit more,but I am sure that will be more than sufficient.
14oz without battery,22 5/8oz with....


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Old 10-30-2006, 11:14 PM   #68
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I agree with the FUSE SET only need...Like the F27, all we need is foam to tweak away.

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Old 10-30-2006, 11:20 PM   #69
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That's for sure,just gotta make enough room in there for the batteries..
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Gauged on the response to this Jet, though...I would say the Strykers are in for some trouble...

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Originally Posted by DIALED/CHUCK View Post
Gauged on the response to this Jet, though...I would say the Strykers are in for some trouble...

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I would agree with you chuck, BUT the marketing that went into the RTF stryker will make it hard to beat. I can't wait to get my hands on this plane but i am not sure if it will pass the stryker anytime soon. IMO

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I would agree with you chuck, BUT the marketing that went into the RTF stryker will make it hard to beat. I can't wait to get my hands on this plane but i am not sure if it will pass the stryker anytime soon. IMO
I agree...not soon...and I have no idea of the cost factor IF you can get just a bare fuse...20 bucks on a stryker is hard to beat. ...and muliplex isn't exactly 'known' for their marketing (unless ya count magazine ads as marketing)...the buzz on this one from users (and reviewers) has me watching, though.

I had a line on a FJ about three months ago...but 210.00 was a little absurd...event just to say I was the first on my block to have one. ...come to think of it...I don't even have a 'block' and my neighbors only know me as 'The guy down the street who flies his airplanes in his yard'.

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Geez $210 is a bit rich,I paid $86 Au for mine,just the bare fuse really,although all you need is 2 servos and a motor/ESC and reciever.It will definately be much faster than the Stryker though,the airframe is a lot cleaner with thinner wings.As soon as the wind goes away I guess I will find out.
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I got lucky. Paid $75 shipped about 4 months ago
With the Tower Coupon and free shipping, I figure I paid about $55 for the second one...

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Default Flash Gordon Funjet.....

I went a little nuts with painjob on my first one. Still has yet to fly
The second is stock stickers and is a blast.

This one looks like it came straight out like a Marvel Comic

The jury's still out on whether I like it or not, it's a lot to look at :p


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