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Old 08-07-2005, 06:13 AM   #1
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Cool First Electric Gliders

If you interested in gliders but don't want to get involved in all that
hi-start and winch launching "stuff:" Here are a few electric gliders in the
1.4 -2 meter, 54 -79 inch wingspan catagory that might be suitable for a new
glider flyer

Mulitplex Easy Glider Electric - $90
Aileron/Rudder/Elevator/Throttle - 1.9M This would make an excellent first
e-glider
due to its rugged Elapor foam construciton. I have flow the sailplane
version - it flies very well.
http://www.multiplexusa.com/models/ParkFliers/EasyGliderE.htm
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXKHS8&P=7
Here it is flown out electric, but I think this is on a slope
http://www.elflight.dk/video5/easy-gl-hang.wmv

Multiplex Easy Star
R/E/T 1.4 M This is a cross between an e-glider and a parkflyer. We have
several
at our field. This is a good smaller first e-glider or a parkflyer. It a
very strong following. This is an Elapor foam plane that is very rugged,
flies well and thermals well. Makes a great "keep in the car"
e-glider/parkflyer.
ARF - $60
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFRU7&P=ML
RTF with Radio - $189
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFXV0&P=ML

Ascent - $69
R/E/T 1.4 M Fiberglass Pod/boom desing with built up balsa wing. Flies very
well.
We have a couple of these are our field. The pilots like them alot. This is
another glider/parkflyer cross over plane. Can be flown as either.
Great keep in the car plane
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFL1075

Goldberg Electra
R/E/T - 2M This is a more traditional built up balsa glider with a polyhedral
wing. Essentially an electric verion of the popular Gentle Lady. Many people
add a gear box and larger prop to get stronger climb on this plane.
Kit - $75
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDJB2&P=7
ARF - $110
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0095p?FVSEARCH=Electra&FVPROFIL=++

Hanger 9 Aspire - $239 - RTF
R/E/T - 2M This is a traditional built up balsa glider with Polyhedral wing.
Many people add a gearbox to this plane for stronger climbs.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN1950

Stratus $120 ARF
R/E/T controls
Fiberglass fuselage with built up balsa wing
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXZY16&P=7

Evolution - $199
R/E/T controls
Fiberglass fuselage and built up balsa wing
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAHP4&P=7

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Old 08-08-2005, 12:18 AM   #2
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Default I like the Ascent

I have the Ascent with a t400 outrunner, a cam 9#5 folding Graupner prop,and a 1500 2s lipo. Best flight so far was 1hr 6min 36 sec. I like this plane as I can keep it assembled in the van ready to go at a moment,s notice.

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Originally Posted by Dan Johnson
I have the Ascent with a t400 outrunner, a cam 9#5 folding Graupner prop,and a 1500 2s lipo.
Thanks Dan
Can you elaborate on the t400(t?)? Whats the Kv? Is the Lipo at 8c? 20amp esc? Also what altitude are you at?

Any problems putting the outrunner in? Maybe a pic?
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Old 08-11-2005, 12:27 AM   #4
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I have two speed 400 skimmers that I have flown for 5 years now logging over 300 flights a year. I also fly a gentle lady with the Master airscrew 05 and gearbox with 7 1700 nicad cells.I have not gone for height but 30 min flight times while sitting facing Florida from a colder but sunny Myrtle Beach while leaning against the club house is not a bad way to put in a colder southern day.I am good for 3 climbs to glide zone on a pack and I bring 4.Trouble with flying gliders is people tend to think you are just standing there taking a wizz while looking up at the clouds.
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A friend of mine recommended to me: Gulliette II or the ION... I buy the ION with 600, since for slope more is not needed. At the present time I am adapting the ION to clear the motor and power to him to fly in slope without.

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I have two speed 400 skimmers that I have flown for 5 years now logging over 300 flights a year. I also fly a gentle lady with the Master airscrew 05 and gearbox with 7 1700 nicad cells.I have not gone for height but 30 min flight times while sitting facing Florida from a colder but sunny Myrtle Beach while leaning against the club house is not a bad way to put in a colder southern day.I am good for 3 climbs to glide zone on a pack and I bring 4.Trouble with flying gliders is people tend to think you are just standing there taking a wizz while looking up at the clouds.
Sounds like you are in climb and glide mode. Do you ever thermal the planes?

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Ed-
Thanks for the great information you post. I currently fly a GWS Slow Stick, a 2M Cirrus glider, and a Cermark New Timer. I'm looking to get into my first aileron glider and it looks like you've flown the multiplex easy glider. Do you have any other recommendations for small (< 2M) gliders with ailerons and/or spoilers?
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Mwitman,

I need more information. Less than 2 meters?

Thermal Duration Gliders? Slope Soaring? Discus Launched? Hand Launched?

Budget?

ARF? Kit?

Sport or Competition?

Any other factors you can think of.

( Man I ask a lot of questions, don't I?)


What kind of radio will you be using?

As to the Multiplex Easy Glider, this is an Elapor Foam 4 channel aileron glider that is just unde 2M.

For a foamie, it flies very well. However I think your will float better. But the ailerons on the Easy glider will give you more positive attitude control.

The plane is amazing in that it can be hi-start launched and it can take a moderated winch launch as well, if you extend the stock tow hook.

I like the plane, but feel the bult up balsa planes do fly better. However if you are still new and prone to crashes, this plane can really take a beating. As a first glider, as a keep in the car for spontanious hi-start flying, it has a lot to offer.

If you are a fairly acocmplished RES pilot and looking for a "better" flying plane than the Cirrus, then I would sugget you pass it by.

I await your responses to my questions.

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AEAJR,

Answers to your questions:

I need more information. Less than 2 meters?
[Yes, something I can keep in the car and fly from a park]

Thermal Duration Gliders? Slope Soaring? Discus Launched? Hand Launched?
[Hand launched (would like it if it could also thermal), electric]

Budget?
[under 300]

ARF? Kit?
[ARF]

Sport or Competition?
[Sport]


What kind of radio will you be using?
[Hitec Optic 6]

I like the plane, but feel the bult up balsa planes do fly better. However if you are still new and prone to crashes, this plane can really take a beating. As a first glider, as a keep in the car for spontanious hi-start flying, it has a lot to offer.
[I'm not prone to crashing (hopefully it will stay that way) and I manage to get 30-60 minutes of flying almost every day on my slow stick.]

If you are a fairly acocmplished RES pilot and looking for a "better" flying plane than the Cirrus, then I would sugget you pass it by.
[I wouldn't yet call myself an "accomplished" RES pilot but would like to hear what you and others would recommend so I can get more time in the air when a winch or hi-start is not convenient; it sounds like the multiplex us certainly an option.]

Thanks!

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OK, Mike, now I got ya!

Keep in the car, spontaneous flying. Know it well. My Aerobird was my first plane. After about 400 flights between my first Aerobird and my Aerobird Challenger, the Challenger is now my keep in the car plane. Parkflyer, Thermal Glider, Slope Glider. Lives in the box it came in.


MY Keep in the car criteria:

A) I want a cheap simple radio for my keep in the car plane, so I like 3 channel planes. R/E/A glider, R/E/T or A/E/T for electrics and flying wings. I don't want to leave my expensive/main radio in the car, in the heat, bouncing around.

B) Prefer radio that takes AA batteries so I don't have to worry about whether I charged the radio. Spontaneous flying means unplanned!!!

C) Some kind of transport/protective box. Either the one it came in or something I make. all I need must go in that box and be in the box all the time. Plane, radio, batteries, charger if needed for motor batteries.

For me, it is my Aerobird Challenger. Good parkflyer or OK as a glider, but it lives in the box, has its own radio, always ready to go, deals with less than ideal conditions, ...great for unplanned flying. Just have to charge up the motor batteries with the included charger. So I need about 30 minutes before I can make that unplanned flight.


Based on those criteria, here are some suggestions:

1) Multiplex Easy Star - 54" R/E ARF = $54 + you need to HS/55 or 81 type servos and a receiver with at least 2000 foot range if you are going to thermal it, just to be sure. Quick apart and back into the box which is excellent for keep in the car. Simple 3 channel radio will fly it, or available RTF with radio. Has direct drive speed 380 motor ( or is it a 400?) Depending on what motor you have in the Slow Stick, the SS batteries might fly it. Keep two batteries plus the charger in the box and you are good to go.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFRU7&P=ML
RTF with Radio/battery/charger - $189
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFXV0&P=ML


2) Multiplex Easy Glider Electric - Good choice for this use. 2 HS 55 +2HS 81. I suggest a 3000 foot minimum receiver range, Geared speed 400. Any 4 channel radio will fly it, but you can fly A/E/T on a three channel radio.
$89 for the ARF. I hear she slope soars pretty well too.
http://www.multiplexusa.com/models/ParkFliers/EasyGliderE.htm
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXKHS8&P=7
Here it is flown out electric, but I think this is on a slope
http://www.elflight.dk/video5/easy-gl-hang.wmv


3) Ascent - $69
R/E/T 1.4 M Fiberglass Pod/boom design with built up balsa wing. Flies very
well. We have a couple of these are our field. The pilots like them a lot. This is
another glider/parkflyer cross over plane. Can be flown as either.
Great keep in the car plane ( not sure about the box )
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFL1075

4) Zagi EPP motorized Flying Wing - $149 with motor and battery
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXGDX9&P=ML


Have you considered a discus launched pure glider? No motor battery recharges. Find a spot and just fling it into the air!

Boomer EX2 - DLG flying wing -
This is more of a kit. Easy transport in car, good for light slope lift. Just pure fun!
www.mountainmodels.com
http://www.mountainmodels.com/order_planes.php
This is a product review - be sure to watch the video
at the end of the review
http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4524
Second Video
http://www.stocker.rchomepage.com/Boomhivis2_0002.wmv



The Seeker - $79 kit - smaller than the ones above This one breaks down for easy transport. Friend in the club has one. Great little keep in the car plane. Two channel radio will handle it.
http://www.liftworx.com/pages/seeker.html



MiSAL - RTF
This comes all built including all electronics on your channel of choice. You add the radio and go! They also sell radios to go with it if you like
http://www.edgerc.com/MiSAL%20DLG.htm



Not sure how well these would break down for keeping in the car. Might want to make a box for them.



AILERON/ELEVATOR/RUDDER STYLE DLGs

NSP Huron - ARF $128
http://www.nesail.com./detail.php?productID=760

NSP Apache - ARF $139
http://www.nesail.com./detail.php?productID=1178

Fling - $99

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXKAG3&P=ML


Perfect keep in the car radio

Hitec Neon 3 - 3 channel standard radio $69

Takes AA batteries
2 micro servos, micro receiver, switch, etc
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCXM7**&P=7


Will fly a three channel R/E/T or A/E/T parkflyer or A/E/R glider. Use this on the Easy Glider electric and just don't use the rudder on those spontaneous flying stops. On R/E/A DLGs, again, just leave off the rudder for spontaneous flying. Lock it in place. Set up rudder on your Optic 6 for planned flying.

This radio also has mixing for flying wings or V-tail planes. Should worked fine. I had the Focus 3 model, which preceded this, that came with my Spirit RTF. Worked great. This receiver has 1 mile range. Take receiver out of case and shrink wrap it for the DLGs.

You put 8 AA batteries in radio. For a pure glider, comes with battery frame that uses 4 AAA disposable batteries - no charging, but too large for the DLGs. For them you can use two CR2 camera batteries. Make up a pack or frame to take them.

If you feel you need these features later:

$11 gives you ATV to help set-up throws

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDEK7&P=M

$8 gives you dual rates

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDEK9&P=M


So, that is MY approach to the keep in the car, spontaneous flying solution. Park Gliders, DLGs. Good for parkflying, thermal gliding, slope soaring in moderate conditions.

How did I do?



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Old 09-06-2005, 02:46 AM   #11
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Mars sorry I haven't posted back sooner as I have just purchased a house.
Any way the ESC is a GW 20 amp, the lipo is 10C and the motor is a Tornado
400T sold by Dymond Modelsports. Says 19oz thrust at 10 amps. Best time was 1hr 6min 36sec. Consistant flights in the 30min range. I fly out of Chilliwack BC Canada. 2hrs north of Seattle, our field is about 100ft asl.
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Dan Johnson,

I'm flying an Ascent with the same motor as you, except I am using an 8x4 folder and using a 3 cell lipoly. It flys great (almost vertical). The first time I flew it, I turned it while it was climbing at full throttle and it torque rolled! Didn't hurt anything, but now I always throttle back before turning now. I've heard that a powerful brushless motor can actually pull off the firewall on the Ascent. I kind of worry about this.

BTW, justgofly.com has the same motor for $39. I love the motor - it's a great motor especially for the price. I can't believe how much power it puts out considering it's small size.
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Hi PTGLASS, I only climb at about 1/2 to3/4 throttle for a timed 1 minute, and I am just about spec'ed at that. I get consistant 30 = minute flights even in dead air. I am using a 9/5 folder on my 2 meter plane and am going to try the T400 Brushless on it. I have the dymond Take It Eazy with a Magnetic Mayhem motor and 8 cell 3300 ni/cads. I figure if the T400 can swing a 9/5
it should fly the 2 meter. I still like the Ascent for the any time any where flyer. Any more fun and it would be illegal.

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I was cruising on the Multiplex home site, http://www.multiplex-rc.de/ and found FMS models for the Easy-Glider electric and TwinStarII on the front page. Kinda fun "flying" the model before I finish it.

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More electric gliders. Some as cheap as $80 and some over $500.
http://www.nesail.com/categories.php...51fdf31a75585d

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I just built and flew (with help) my Tower Hobbies Vista EP on my instructor's recommendation for a two meter sailplane. It was $89 with motor and ESC. I just had to buy servos and battery. I used my own radio. It's not the most powerful motor in the world but it gets it up there. I'd recommend it highly.
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Well, I finally got an Easy Glider Electric of my own. Love it for thermal chasing and for slope soaring.

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Mars sorry I haven't posted back sooner as I have just purchased a house.
Any way the ESC is a GW 20 amp, the lipo is 10C and the motor is a Tornado
400T sold by Dymond Modelsports. Says 19oz thrust at 10 amps. Best time was 1hr 6min 36sec. Consistant flights in the 30min range. I fly out of Chilliwack BC Canada. 2hrs north of Seattle, our field is about 100ft asl.
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Thanks Nazgul, This summer I set a new presonal best of 1hr 16min 20sec.
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Amazing! Way to go, Dan!
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Just ordered a Green models Pretty...A friend of mine had one at our last electric fly in, and I liked the looks of it .Gonna power it with an Eflite park 370 outrunner and a graupner 9X5 folder on 3S 1800lithiums.
it has a 63" span and weighs in at approx 20 ounces....hope it works good.

Was flying electrics waaaay before it was cool
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I've been enjoying Aerobird 3 from HobbyZone as a similar design to the Easy Glider. It has a rubber nose and reverse prop. The downside to some is the stick fuselage and V-tail. Has decent power yet can fly slow for a beginning soarer. It's totally RTF with radio within 10 minute assembly plus charge. Seems to work the sky nicely and is only about $110.00 plus shipping. The price seemed right to me. Everything's included, plus video, which I liked. And, no, I'm not a salesman.

http://www.hobbyzone.com/rc_planes_h...aerobird_3.htm

I don't have space for a lot of parts and repairs, so I have to lean to the RTFs.
I'm anxious to try that the Easy Glider to compare. Appreciated your URLs.

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Originally Posted by Stan-the-Man View Post
I've been enjoying Aerobird 3 from HobbyZone as a similar design to the Easy Glider. It has a rubber nose and reverse prop. The downside to some is the stick fuselage and V-tail. Has decent power yet can fly slow for a beginning soarer. It's totally RTF with radio within 10 minute assembly plus charge. Seems to work the sky nicely and is only about $110.00 plus shipping. The price seemed right to me. Everything's included, plus video, which I liked. And, no, I'm not a salesman.

http://www.hobbyzone.com/rc_planes_h...aerobird_3.htm

I don't have space for a lot of parts and repairs, so I have to lean to the RTFs.
I'm anxious to try that the Easy Glider to compare. Appreciated your URLs.

-- Stan
Hi Stan. I too started on an Aerobird and like them a lot.

The Aerobird is not similar to the Easy Glider but it is similar to the Easy Star.

What is the problem with the V Tail. You will see V tails on $1000 planes. Here is an example of a compettion grade plane with a V tail, the Graphite.
http://www.kennedycomposites.com/graphite.html

Nothing wrong with V tails at all.

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Default Hi AEAJR... Re: V-Tails

Thanks for the reply, AEAJR...

From discussion with hobby shop sales, the V's take heat for not being as responsive at rudder versions. Maybe it's not a valid complaint, but it seems, from pics, most RC'ers opt for rudder control when they can get it. Could be I was being led to consider a more expensive plane... I like to think not. :o

How do you rate the Aerobird's soaring potential to others you've flown?
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