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Old 11-16-2008, 03:03 AM   #1
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Are there any Swift fans out there? How does this plane fly
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Old 11-17-2008, 11:02 PM   #2
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This plane is AWESOME... It isn't a speed demon but is quite agile. It's fun to take it vertical until it is just a dot, kill the power and then soar around for a long long while and then take it up and do it again.. I have flown mine in our neighborhood and at a large soccer park.. it is at home either place.
It is quick to build, easy to setup and can be repaired (if ever necessary) with a bit of epoxy or strapping tape..
You can't beat it for the money...

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Old 11-18-2008, 01:26 AM   #3
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Mark, First of all, thanx for the reply. I am putting a 2208/8 2600KV and 3cell lipo probably 1300mah and an APC 4.75x4.75. I'm looking forward to the first flight, weather permitting. I've seen a mini swift fly and it was great.

By the way, are you a CLA member? I know a Mark Thomas but I don't think he is from Louisville.
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Old 11-18-2008, 05:50 PM   #4
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Hey John...
I have a completely different setup than what you have.. Park 370, 8 inch prop and a 3 cell 900mah.. It's hard to choose with all of the different motors available and what you can read here and over on that other site... Good thing is that I haven't read where anyone has had a bad flight with one of these...

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Old 11-19-2008, 12:37 AM   #5
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Contemporary LongRifle Assoc. I'm a history and early American artform buff

I deviated from the plans on my swift. I put the servos 90 deg. to the elivons and close enough to use shorter pushrods. Also it occurred to me that landings were going to damage pushrods and horns, so I added a 1" high curved skid about 5" from the tip of each wing. I'll try to send photo in later post.

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Old 11-19-2008, 01:24 AM   #6
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The angle looks strange because it doesn't parallel the centerline.
If I were doing it again I'd put the horn on top of the wing.


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I see... Sounds interesting..
I did the same thing with my servos (the angle) but did not move them out that far.. I didn't want to change the roll habits of the wing. Even though I have not had a problem with the way the stock hinges work, I did use blenderm tape on the hinges.

I buried my servos flush with the foam and didn't have any issues. My kit came with some plastic tabs that I used to protect the servo arms.. they kinda look like the control horn but a bit longer..

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Old 11-19-2008, 07:17 PM   #8
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Mark, can you post a picture of your setup?
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Old 11-22-2008, 03:05 AM   #9
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Mark, Where are you locating the CG?

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Old 11-23-2008, 02:56 AM   #10
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John,
Here are some pictures of my set-up for general reference:


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Old 11-23-2008, 05:31 AM   #11
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John,
Here are some pictures of my set-up for general reference:
Great picts, interesting setup. I see that you have added acouple of finns to protect the push rods, or is there another reason?
Mine is all but ready to go. I have a 1300mah 20c longmax that balances it at about 7 1/8" from the nose.
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Old 11-23-2008, 07:00 PM   #12
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Yeah, the skids are to protect the servo arms. Also, I glued a thin strip of Depron between the pushrod tubes and the body so that the pushrods won't flex.
The Swift flies great and penetrates the wind like an arrow. Great fun!

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Old 04-19-2012, 06:40 AM   #13
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I built a MS Composit Swift and today we took her out
All I can say is well....Yep not all maidens go so well


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Y6wjHx5IDTQ

Will have to try to figure what is wrong but we gave it the Ole college try

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Old 04-30-2012, 12:55 AM   #14
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Finally got my Swift CG just right well I think...Took her up for a remaiden today and wow it was alot of fun a little under powered so I could use some sugestions on a better power setup so if any out there who owns one and really likes it and enjoys a bit more speed I would be interested in you power setup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4X1u...ature=youtu.be

Oh and hold on to your lunch its a roller coaster ride

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Old 04-30-2012, 04:21 AM   #15
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put the turnigy D2826/6 2200kv motor from hobby king with a 6x4 apc prop or the mjv3 from grayson hobby either one will give you some more zip.
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Thanks Nova,
I will look into purchasing something like that
I just wish the US Warehouse or international warehouse did not have them on back order

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Old 05-02-2012, 02:56 AM   #17
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They are great little motors I got two of them a few weeks ago but I am also waiting for them to get back into stock then I will buy like 10. I also use a 3 cell battery it is a 1300 mah. and I am getting 6 or 7 minute flights and that is alot of full throttle.
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Sounds like we will be both checking on these. If I see them back in stock I will let you know. I kinda like the crazy thing

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fishbonez I was wondering to are you spinning your motor clockwise looking from the back of the wing and mounting your prop with the lettering of the prop facing in towards the motor instead of facing out like on a tractor set up. Because you will get some thrust the other way but not all the thrust that the motor can make. You might already know this but if not maybe your motor now will fly faster, on your video it sounded like you have a higher kv motor what size motor do you have on your swift now?
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my current setup is as follows
hexTronik 24gram Brushless Outrunner 1300kv
REd brick 25 amp ESC
800mah 2s lipo
203x109mm (almost 8x4)

I do have the prop turning clockwise and I double checked I do have letters leading the way cuz thats how I remember it

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Ok you could run a 6x4 prop and get a little more speed but the hobbyking motor with the 3 cell battery and 6x4 prop and you would really be haulin. Have you seen my video on my other thread the dollar tree foam wing that is the 2200 kv motor set up with a 5x5 apc prop and my wife couldn't keep her camera on the plane it is fast.
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Ok you could run a 6x4 prop and get a little more speed but the hobbyking motor with the 3 cell battery and 6x4 prop and you would really be haulin. Have you seen my video on my other thread the dollar tree foam wing that is the 2200 kv motor set up with a 5x5 apc prop and my wife couldn't keep her camera on the plane it is fast.
OK thanks I will keep that in mind.

I was thinking I may put a 3 cell in there but I have to admit I dont understand, due to lack of knowledge in the subject of batteries, how an extra cell gives me more speed. I do not deny it does I just dont understand why. Also should I put a 800mah 3 cell or larger for more time and speed?

Also no I have not seen your videos? DO you have a link?

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I would use like a 1300 mah. 3 cell and you would get fairly good flight times. On the batteries your mah. is like how much time you get out of the battery and the cells like 2 cells is 7.4 volts and then 3 cells is 11.1 volts the cells add more power and rpm at 3.7 volts each additional cell. I have a motor like your on a 3D profile edge 540 on three cells and with a 8x4 prop and I am getting around 200 watts out of it so try a 3 cell on yours you will get more speed. And if you like brushless motor rebuilding you can get some magnet wire and rewind your motor and make it a 2200 kv motor. Motor rebuilding is a fun project if you have the patience.http://youtu.be/gM4Fd3bW72Q
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Thanks Nova
That does make sense. I will do just that. After work I will run to the LHS and price some 1300mah 3 cell.

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Cool, Keep me posted. These wings are fun when you get whiplash because they fly by so fast.
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