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Old 12-10-2009, 09:24 PM   #1
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What would be your recommendation for an entry level EDF? Let's assume that the flyer is an intermediate plilot.

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Old 12-11-2009, 01:11 AM   #2
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Dave, I really like the EPP cheezy looking Panther. Once on step it's a blast to fly and takes a beating. Wing Maker advertises it.

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Not Bad,, Better than others out there,,,(I got a GP Miglet so I knows Ugly)bubsteve

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That's the one Steve, I'm ugly so the plane suits me....

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I think this one has potential: http://hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store...s_EDF_Park_Jet

I've been thinking about getting it as my first EDF. Parkflyers.com sells the same plane but red:
http://parkflyers.com/html/jumpjet.html

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Intermediate? Phase 3 F-16...goes together easy and flies great.

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Old 12-11-2009, 09:42 AM   #7
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The J power F-18 made outta EPO foam is tough.My son pancaked his at speed it suffered no damage. I've seen the Phase lll F-16 break up in a crash badly.

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My favourite entry level EDF like the Hobby Lobby " firebird." They fly great an are easy to installed. Since the EDF are mounted with virtually unobstructed intake and outlet it gives you the best overall EDF efficiencies money can buy.
It allows flexible is EDF adjustment, thrust angle and the ease of maintenace of the EDF unit since the EDF is outside the fuselage.

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This looks very basic and will roll off the ground, I think this would make a great 1st EDF IMHO

Parkzone Habu EDF BNF

http://www.redrockethobbies.com/Prod...080&Click=6136

http://www.rc-airplane-world.com/parkzone-habu-edf.html




There aren't too many Ready To Fly quality EDFs on the market at the current time but a nice example of one due for release December 2009 (although not quite RTF) is the ParkZone Habu EDF, shown below:

Offered in PNP and BNF (Plug-N-Play and Bind-N-Fly respectively) versions, the Habu certainly fills a gap in the current EDF market.


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Originally Posted by Don Sims View Post
That's the one Steve, I'm ugly so the plane suits me....
i think you must be a looker.
maybe its just me who has bad taste, but i think that plane looks good.
fair enough, the yellow color is horrible, but thats easily fixed.

on the habu:

a very nice looking plane.
it reminds me of a gorgeous plane i saw once (bandit. found it).
the bandit handles easy, and its outrageously fast too with nice thin wings ^^

picture is a bvm turbine bandit. its also avaible in 480 minifan size i believe. but i couldnt find any good pics of it.

my entry to edf:

kyosho fv-1000
i have tried only 2 edfs, so i might not be the best person to suggest anything here.
but i think the fv-1000 was great, and i miss it so much. it was really one of my better planes ever.
unfortunately i lost it due to elevator servo failure =(
and you better find a used one if you want it, because its not in production anymore.
(tell me if you know about anyone for sale =D)
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Originally Posted by Alpea42 View Post
The J power F-18 made outta EPO foam is tough.My son pancaked his at speed it suffered no damage. I've seen the Phase lll F-16 break up in a crash badly.
I have no basis for comaparison friend, lol. I've never crashed the Phase 3 F-16...but I DID silk her just in case, lol. I find her easy to fly. I'll have to look at the J Power F-18 though. If you say she's a solid bird, then it's definitely worth looking into. Always appreciate your experience with these things, lol.

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Old 12-13-2009, 01:18 PM   #13
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Hi sorry to put in a damper, but some of the recommended EDF model jet aren't entry level. They look like intermediate to advance level model jet.
They are for more experience EDF modeler/builder...just my thoughts.
I must say they are really nice though.

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Old 12-13-2009, 01:49 PM   #14
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well, im not sure there exist such things as edf entry level, as an analogue to the full scales "jet trainer".
before one start with edf, one should know how to handle a model plane.
and a edf isnt really that hard. its a model plane that moves at speed.
if you arent afraid of speed, you can easily handle a edf if you can easily handle any propeller plane.
thats my optinion. i have never "made my way" into edf.
i just bought one, put in a oversized engine, and flew the better out of it.

actually, i didnt really have any experience with high speed propeller planes either when i got my first edf. my first edf was my first speedplane as well.
the fv-1000 was listed as intermediate in kyoshos own skill rating.
i dont think you get edfs much easier than that, exept for the depron profile flying leafs.
but i dont really count that, because they dont fly fast. and speed is the whole point to edf.
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Originally Posted by Moxus View Post
well, im not sure there exist such things as edf entry level, as an analogue to the full scales "jet trainer".
before one start with edf, one should know how to handle a model plane.
and a edf isnt really that hard. its a model plane that moves at speed.
if you arent afraid of speed, you can easily handle a edf if you can easily handle any propeller plane.
thats my optinion. i have never "made my way" into edf.
i just bought one, put in a oversized engine, and flew the better out of it.

actually, i didnt really have any experience with high speed propeller planes either when i got my first edf. my first edf was my first speedplane as well.
the fv-1000 was listed as intermediate in kyoshos own skill rating.
i dont think you get edfs much easier than that, exept for the depron profile flying leafs.
but i dont really count that, because they dont fly fast. and speed is the whole point to edf.
I don't think being able to fly a fast prop plane means you're ready for an EDF. EDFs have a totally different style of airframe and can be alot more sensitive...even with D/R set. You have to be one step ahead of her at all times and not so much because of the speed in which she flies, but the speed in which she reacts to your inputs...especially when we're talking about intermediate birds. I always found the quick reaction of the EDFs to be the most challenging for me, not the speed. Just my opinion friend.

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thats a matter of indivitual preference i think.
i actually think that birds reacting slow is harder to fly.
i have always flown with supersensitive birds, until the point that i got so used to it that i have mental block for "pulling hard" on the stick.
if the bird is too insensitive, i end up never pulling out of dives, because i get cringes of pulling the stick hard.

well, anyway. its a matter of personal preference.
control surface travels, dual rates and exponentials can be set both ways.
both for more sensitive, and for less sensitive.
so i dont think that should be seen as a defining characteristics of edfs.
you can set sensitivity and travel to personal preference. within the limits of reason of course.

i think the fv-1000 flew quite a lot like any sports plane.
the f-20 is very "jet-fighter-tish" in the way it handles, with quick aileron response and slow elevator response.
but then again, i wouldnt say the f-20 is a beginner plane.
its too tricky too launch, and too high stall speed for that.
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If price is an object, the Wingsmaker Panther gets my vote.
In that same price range is the Electrifly L-39 Albatros which was the top choice of Gordon Banks and Tony Coberly over at RC Report. They tend to tell it like it is.

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Originally Posted by Moxus View Post
thats a matter of indivitual preference i think.
i actually think that birds reacting slow is harder to fly.
i have always flown with supersensitive birds, until the point that i got so used to it that i have mental block for "pulling hard" on the stick.
if the bird is too insensitive, i end up never pulling out of dives, because i get cringes of pulling the stick hard.

well, anyway. its a matter of personal preference.
control surface travels, dual rates and exponentials can be set both ways.
both for more sensitive, and for less sensitive.
so i dont think that should be seen as a defining characteristics of edfs.
you can set sensitivity and travel to personal preference. within the limits of reason of course.

i think the fv-1000 flew quite a lot like any sports plane.
the f-20 is very "jet-fighter-tish" in the way it handles, with quick aileron response and slow elevator response.
but then again, i wouldnt say the f-20 is a beginner plane.
its too tricky too launch, and too high stall speed for that.
Hi Moxus, to me " entry level" is some basic model or stuff that is easy to put togather, ease of use or fly easily and price wise is inexpensive.

Example , Entry level radio gear=simple 4 channel basic radios , entry level model RC plane= trainer plane like slow stick plane, beaver , "basic" kit ETC...

Entry level ...the key word is "basic", simple to be use or put togather ....
lastly does not burn a big hole in your wallet...ha ha ha.

If we don't define the meaning of "entry level EDF jet" then the forum will go out of topic very easily. People will start recommending any jet model under the sun...just my thoughts



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Babylon5,
David Blensky, who started this thread, asked what EDF would make a good entry-level choice for an intermediate rc pilot.
Intermediate is the key word here.
I'm sure most people realize that an EDF would not be a good choice for a beginner.

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Hi Rib cracker, being a intermediate pilot may not necessary means that the person have the skills or knowledge to setup a EDF jet.
I have known some advance pilot who are already flying Pattern nitro plane but simply lack the knowledge or the skills to setup an EDF properly.
Arguably, person who are great is setting up the electric EDF may not have the necessary skills to fly one of this models.


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With all due respect... While possible, the above scenario is highly unlikely.

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How about a GWS ME 262-I love mine.
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With all due respect... While possible, the above scenario is highly unlikely.
Pretty common for people to want their hobby to seem somehow special over other hobbies. Too difficult, too dangerous, etc for normal or even skilled people.

Anyway, I thought I saw an Ultrafly sport jet in the LHS last week that looked nice, but I don't see it on their website.

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You may be referring to the Spear which is a little more expensive but not by much.
Here's a link; http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/116520.asp

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It says advanced so maybe it's not for this thread but yes that's the one I saw. Thanks.

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