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Old 08-18-2005, 09:34 AM   #1
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Default Best glue to glue foam

I have tried several ones, and most of them seem to not glue it or melt it, so im kinda out of ideas.
any suggestions would be nice

I live outside of USA, so termins CA and Goop are kinda foreign to me.
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:05 AM   #2
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What foam are you trying to glue? Depron? Styrofoam?

UHU Por works really well for depron and is generally my first choice.
'No More Nails' water based adhesive is super strong as well.

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Dont know what all you'll have over where your at but here Gorilla glue works great on depron and the blue foam.

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Odorless CA(super glue simplified) and Foam Safe Kicker. Keeps the weight down. The odor in CA is what attacks the foam. That's what we use.

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Hot glue gun works for me
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Yesp - oderless CA works great, but sometimes it makes the foam brittle. I use a either oderless CA, Gorilla Glue, or 5minute epoxy.

If you are unable to obtain gorilla glue where you are - it's a name brand of polurethane glue.

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Originally Posted by flypaper 2
Hot glue gun works for me
easy to use(most the time) and fast drying but its kinda heavy.

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all those names seem unfamiliar. i have tried PVA, takes a lot of time to dry. now im thinking of using some kind of silicone, that is used for putting foam plates onto ceilings and walls, should do the trick i guess.
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Just a safety note...

Be careful with the CA/kicker combo. I once shut down my ability to breath by working in a closed garage with the stuff. I asked a friend of mine who worked at a local ecology lab to find out if CA was dangerous, as the bottles (at that time) weren’t labeled so. What she found surprised both of us… If she was working with the gas from the kicking CA in the lab she would have to be in a full-body gas-tight suit with a contained air supply! I don’t know if the new CAs are any safer, but I use as little as possible and only outdoors with a good breeze blowing!!!! :o

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Oh yeah. CA fumes like most fumes can be dangerous. Good ventelation is the key. Some can't even work with the stuff unless they are outside. The odorless should not be a problem. But always use care and possibly have a bottle of deponder when you glue yourself to your wifes, table, favorite drinking glass, carpet.... Lets see what else have I heard. Definately don't get it in your eyes.

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Originally Posted by debhicks
Oh yeah. CA fumes like most fumes can be dangerous. Good ventelation is the key. Some can't even work with the stuff unless they are outside. The odorless should not be a problem. But always use care and possibly have a bottle of deponder when you glue yourself to your wifes, table, favorite drinking glass, carpet.... Lets see what else have I heard. Definately don't get it in your eyes.
yeah,I have glueed my fingers together.that stuff sticks to everything seems like just be careful and pay attetion to what your doing with it.

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Just an FYI regarding Gorilla Glue or any type like that. When you use it the glue expands as it cures. If you are glueing in a critical area such as a fuselage then you have to watch the alignment. Other than that it is one of the best glues for foam or just about anything else.
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a friend of mine got brain damage from super glue and became paralysed. Just thought id mention as u were discussing the dangers of CA earlier.
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Originally Posted by Watts up
a friend of mine got brain damage from super glue and became paralysed. Just thought id mention as u were discussing the dangers of CA earlier.
WOW,didnt know it was that dangerous thanks.

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How about simple epoxy! Cheap and easy to use! I also use Hot glue from a gluegun. Gotta becarefull with the heat.

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Originally Posted by Foamiesrfun
WOW,didnt know it was that dangerous thanks.
A freind of mine developed an alergy to CA glues, he can't even be around the stuff or he'll go into anaphlactic shock.

Oh and another vote for 5 minute epoxy.
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Messenger of doom here

Good old 5-minute epoxy is just as dangerous… It just takes longer for the problems to show up. Epoxy is accumulative in your body and when it reaches toxic levels rashes start showing up. I don’t know much beyond this, or how long it takes to reach toxic levels. OBTW I heard this from an old boat builder who had developed this problem.

The main thing with epoxy is to not get it on your skin… And if you do, don’t clean it off with alcohol or other solvent as it will soak through your skin.

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I think some people are just more likely to suffer ill effects from glues than others, just like some people are allergic to cats, nuts, dust mites etc etc etc. BUT, it would do you no harm at all to do your best to avoid exposure to these chemicals, simple common sense things such as don't breath the fumes, wipe up spills of fuel & glues from your skin. Nothing we do is 100% safe, just a matter of minimising the risks if possible. - John.
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If epoxy coming in contact with your skin is dangerous and removing it from your skin with alcohol is even more dangerous....then what would you use to clean yourself?
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Just did a test on three glues. No More Nails, Foam Safe Ca (Great Planes) and Craft Shop Foam Glue. Of course Foam Safe set the fastest, followed at about 1 hour by Craft Shop Foam Glue (the cheapest) and then No More Nails at about 2 hours, used sparingly. The strongest using the four finger breaking test with blue foam is the Foam Safe Ca and the No More Nails. The Craft Foam Glue still had elastic "strings" in the joint, kind of like elastic contact glue because it reattached and holds well enough if a part broke like a tail fin. Might be useful for areas where some flex is needed. I'm going to try spot tacking with foam safe CA and general glueing with No More Nails on my next foamie.
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Originally Posted by Oldude
If epoxy coming in contact with your skin is dangerous and removing it from your skin with alcohol is even more dangerous....then what would you use to clean yourself?
I use waterless handcleaner with pumice. I think the brand is GoJo.

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the handymans all purpose adhesive and sealant works well for me. dries clear remains kinda flexible [but not much] and doesnt cost a fortune. you can gett it at wally world.
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yep i too have friends that were too complacent with polyester resin and epoxy and cyno and carbon fibre as well who have had serious concequences, some of the brews have whats known as a threshhold you go along thinking nothings wrong then bang you got problems ,be warned take precautions wear rubber gloves ect' or it will happen to you.after 55 years of seeing people go blind suffering kidney, skin ,and lung problems directly related to what they were using in their building projects i cant believe that people are so dumb to keep doing it.
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Hi i use 2 types uhu por for tricky jobs and low heat hot glue for most other jobs there are two types of hot glue i use thje low temp: one that i get from my local needlework shop the glue is the smaler diamiter stuff hope this helps regards Ernest uk:o
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UHU Creativ' for foam has worked well for me. Elmer's/Borden Spray Adhesive or 3M 6070 for Foam for large areas. Foam-Safe or Odorless Cyanoacrylate works well alone or with Activator/Kicker/Accellerator for faster curing. Gorilla Glue, or any polyurethane glue bonds well and fills gaps, but some people find it hard to work with and messy. Others have found that hot-melt glue works well for them, although, as the name implies, some have a problem with melting the foam (and de-bonding in hot weather). Epoxy is another choice, although I find it difficult to use.

All of these glues have their benefits and weak points, and one person's "perfect glue" is another's nightmare. Many good glues for foam can be found at hobby and craft centers, art supply stores, hardware stores, and through the Internet. I'd recommend trying them on pieces of scrap foam to see what works best for you.

Lastly, there are some GREAT threads which have tests of the different glues "best foamie glue" might be a good search term to start with.

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