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Old 03-08-2011, 12:48 AM   #1
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Default DISCUSSION OF $100 Scratch Build Contest

I really enjoyed participating in (losing) the warbird build contest. I was thinking that It would be pretty neat to have a scratch build contest with a $100 spending limit. Each participant would be required to prove that ALL the componants and materials added togather are $100 or less. Of course the Tx wouldnt count. Other than that, the sky is the limit.

I know several folks who could do it. What do you all think?

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Old 03-08-2011, 05:02 AM   #2
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Would you have to put a value on all the peices and parts you already have in the parts box.
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Old 03-08-2011, 05:04 AM   #3
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Possum,
Great idea, I like it! But I do see a couple of issues,,,(maybe)
1) no rules! People love to nit-pick and B or crab over rules,,,,lol
2) Foamys, Maybe a $50 limit on foam planes, anyone can throw together a cheap foamy
It would be harder to hang $100 worth of stuff on a foamy and still fly. lol

I know this is your gig, and I don't want to sound like I'm raining on your parade.
How does this sound, $100 limit, scratch built something from the year you were born.... This twist would make people have to think and research a bit. Plus it would give the
Bers something to crab over.

just a thought,
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Scratch my last post.
The more I think about it the better I like Possum's idea. $100 here it is!

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I'd be in! I have some parts laying around just asking to be put into a plane. I was going to build something sometime this spring anyhow, this way I can see what everyone else is doing.

It would take a little research just to make sure I stay under $100, but I like the idea a lot! I spent way too much on my Daddy-O, now it's time for some fiscal responsibility. (I heard that on the news once, I think it means quit spending so much money on your toys!)

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EDIT: A quick double check of prices on the motor/esc/servos I have came to $55.... So It looks good to me!

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I like it...........
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:08 PM   #7
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I'd love to participate, but all my builds come out looking like this!


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Originally Posted by mclarkson View Post
I'd love to participate, but all my builds come out looking like this!

Hi Mark
Outstanding
I LIKE HERthats pretty neat
Thanks for sharing her with us
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That $100 limit apply to pre-owned stuff

I might be able to do something as perty as Marks plane there.......



Hmm..... Sounds like fun

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Hi Mark
Outstanding
I LIKE HERthats pretty neat
Thanks for sharing her with us
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LOL Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Stevephoon View Post
now it's time for some fiscal responsibility. (I heard that on the news once, I think it means quit spending so much money on your toys!)

Steve

That's my boss's inerpretation

Cheesy poofs are what Yankees get when they eat Southen Food!! bub, steve
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Im glad Ive sparked some interest. What Im actually talking about is a plane that can go up in the air for a $100 bill. Thats the REPLACEMENT COST of all the parts. You know; $4 each for 4 servos= $16, a motor $12, an esc $17, battery $14, 2 sheets of 1/16" balsa $1.57, 1/8 pint of dope $2.50, 3 sheets tissue $0.50, 6 channel Rx $16......................get it? (BTW these are just made up figures)

It would be ok to use scrounged parts, but the REPLACEMENT cost would have to be counted. Otherwise one could count the "scrounged" major components from a $600 plane as free and just build a new fuselage and call it a scounged up scratch build.

For another example, if you can get a bundle of 1/4" FFF for $30 and it has 40 sheets and you only use one sheet to make the plane then you would count the cost as $0.75. If you went dumptster diving/begging at job sites and got a few sheets for free, then the cost would still be $0.75.

Heres another example. Lets say I can get a gallon of taunting nitrate dope for $50 counting shipping.....if I use 1/8 pint on my model then the replacement cost would be $1.57 (if Im still awake enough to do math)


I think this would make everything stay on an even playing field. It might also help to require folks to list where they are getting their prices from. One of the goals in my big idea is to show greenhorns that a man can build some pretty cool planes for not a lot of scratch, and take said greenhorns thru both the processes of procuring and building. When I first started, I had not the slightest idea of where to get anything. I didnt even suspect that a zippy little parkflyer could fly for less than $250. We might even cap the cost of the Tx at $200, but thats just an idea....I know that some of you all are mighty partial to your 2.4 GHz EXPENSIVE radios. I like 72 MHz, but thats just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions. (PLEASE lets not argue the point)

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Old 03-09-2011, 03:43 AM   #13
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@ Mark re:the pic of the beat up hi wing.......

My planes are much uglier....you can usually see the hot glue "strings" hanging off them.....but I love the patched up crash trest sled!

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[QUOTE=hillbillynamedpossum;790927
My planes are much uglier....you can usually see the hot glue "strings" hanging off them.....but I love the patched up crash trest sled!

Possum[/QUOTE]


Your planes are works of art. I always enjoy your builds.

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Tom,

Not Really. I dont take pictures of the REALLY ugly ones.

Maybe we could have an "ugly duckling" catagory.

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I figure there's right at $60 in my simple KFm wing:


orangeRX $7.95
10A PowerUP ESC $16.95
(2) T-Pro SG-90 9G Servos $5.54
GWS 5030 prop $1.10
prop adapter $2.95
AX-1806N 2500Kv motor $8.25
Gens Ace 450mAh 3S $4.35
Blue insulating foam $4.00
Wire/tubing/tape/control horns $5.00?

Total ........ $58.00 or thereabouts.

Not a contest entry - just showing that you can absolutely get something up in the air for less than $100.

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Originally Posted by mclarkson View Post
I figure there's right at $60 in my simple KFm wing:


orangeRX $7.95
10A PowerUP ESC $16.95
(2) T-Pro SG-90 9G Servos $5.54
GWS 5030 prop $1.10
prop adapter $2.95
AX-1806N 2500Kv motor $8.25
Gens Ace 450mAh 3S $4.35
Blue insulating foam $4.00
Wire/tubing/tape/control horns $5.00?

Total ........ $58.00 or thereabouts.

Not a contest entry - just showing that you can absolutely get something up in the air for less than $100.
Hi Mark
Looks clean, simple and LOTS OF FUN
Very nice
Thanks ever so much for sharing her with us
Take care dear friend
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I like it! Here's a contest I can enter! I do have an old wing of a SIG Commander in my attic...
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Well, let's see... It ain't a warbird, it is running brushed $5 motors, nicads, and was scratched out of balsa. Total cost minus radio? Maybe forty bucks...


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Well, let's see... It ain't a warbird, it is running brushed $5 motors, nicads, and was scratched out of balsa. Total cost minus radio? Maybe forty bucks...
Hi
Outstanding
Shes a looker thats for sure i like her a lot
Excellent work
Thanks for sharing her with us
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Nice Idea, I may be game! Any sponsors willing to offer prize?

I think I could manage to slap a monster model together in Lickidy split time under $100.


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Originally Posted by TLyttle View Post
Well, let's see... It ain't a warbird, it is running brushed $5 motors, nicads, and was scratched out of balsa. Total cost minus radio? Maybe forty bucks...
Wow. Is that the world's oddest EDF?

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Thought I would throw this in.......it's not strictly a warbird, but one based on a Lippisch ww2 era luftwaffe experimental. made it as a trainer for my bigger heavier combat planes. The wings and fuse came from Canterbury sailplanes in New Zealand, as Factory seconds, for $25.00. These were cut and shaped to suit. The vertical stab is coreflute, cut from a real estate sign, so no cost there. The electrics came from "lowpricerc", a relatively new company with very good prices Total for everything was just under $62.00. So $87.00. The prop was $2.50, and guestimate the tape covering at about $5.00 ( left over rolls). $94.50 AUD all up. And it flies brilliantly, better than a stryker fast or slow, good and bad weather and a lot more robust. Our dollar is better than yours right now, so maybe the figure is a little higher. looking forward to seeing some others


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Well its nice to see so many interested folks. Ive started going over some rules, and Ill post them here after while so we can discuss them just in case the moderators let us have this contest "for real"

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Heres what I have thought up for rules. If they look familier, its because I copied most of them from the warbird contest.

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