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Old 05-26-2011, 02:49 AM   #1
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I realized I haven't flown my Corsair for awhile and feel a little bad about it. I'd like to repower it to give it a little more zip. Does anyone have a heads up rc power plant / esc / prop recommendation for the 2200mah lipos I already have?
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I realized I haven't flown my Corsair for awhile and feel a little bad about it. I'd like to repower it to give it a little more zip. Does anyone have a heads up rc power plant / esc / prop recommendation for the 2200mah lipos I already have?
the best thing to do IMHO is to install a 4 cell lipo in it, and a Bigger and Better ESC, you will have to prop down a bit to keep the amps down, and it will be Hyber too, If you dont have a Wattmeter get one soon, it will save your electronics, hope that helps, Chellie

4 cell 2200mah 35C Lipo
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this ESC has a switching BEC built into it, that makes it very safe to use for 2.4 Radio systems

My best guess on a prop would be a 9x6 or 10x5E prop on 4 cells with the 960KV motor, keep the amps down to 35 to 40 max.





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If you just want to change the motor and esc, get this motor, you may have to prop down a little as this is a 1400KV motor as compaired to your 960kv Motor, so it will draw more amps and use a 50 amp esc, use a wattmeter to check you amp draw to make sure its not excessive, Hope that helps, Chellie

480 speed motor, my best guess with this 1400kv motor on 3 cells would be a 9x6 or 10x5E prop as Jeff has not listed any prop specs yet for this motor.
http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...0-Speed/Detail


this 50 amp esc has a switch mode bec,like the UBECs no need to use a ubec with this ESC
http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...Amp-ESC/Detail


I dont know what the C Rating is on your 2200mah 3 cell lipos, but if its 20C or more, you should be ok.

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Default Wattmeter, A Must Have :)

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=10080

if you dont have a wattmeter, get one and check your amp draw to make sure its not excessive with the 1400kv motor and your old prop on 3 cells, heads up rc is sold out of their watt meters, so i am going to point you to HK for it, forgive me Jeff

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http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=10080

if you dont have a wattmeter, get one and check your amp draw to make sure its not excessive with the 1400kv motor and your old prop on 3 cells, heads up rc is sold out of their watt meters, so i am going to point you to HK for it, forgive me Jeff
We have two new Watt meters arriving in a few days.....good quality and very affordable (and I do forgive you Chellie )

We also sell a custom motor mount for mounting our Power Up 480 Plus on the Corsair. You'll have excellent performance using an APC 10x7 prop and 3S 2200 batteries (provided the batteries are strong). The custom mount sells fast, and we are currently out of stock, but we should have them in about 10 days. If you don't care to wait, you can buy the mount here.

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Thanks so much you two, I think I'll go with the power up 480. I have one in my Gemini and it kicks butt.
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Completed the setup with a 480plus, custom mount, 40amp sbec and 11x5e prop. Now this thing is really run to fly. It climbs as high as I dare to send it. I think I'll get a three blade prop as well to try.
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Works great with the 10x7 three blade. Sounds and looks better too. I suspect that I will have to stop using it though as I belly land in the grass and will probably bend the prop sooner or later.
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Works great with the 10x7 three blade. Sounds and looks better too. I suspect that I will have to stop using it though as I belly land in the grass and will probably bend the prop sooner or later.
Glad the new motor is working out for you, Put some wheel on your plane, use big lite weight tires to fly off the grass. So you can use the big 10x7 prop

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Does this 480 plus out perform better than the Emax BL2820/07 and the Power Up 15 sport?

These are the 3 I see you list for this and the T-28. I want to buy the strongest one.

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If you haven't got that set-up yet you could always go with the one i put in my PZ F4U corsair,i put a Turnigy G10 motor in mine and the only mod i had to do was shave a tiny amount of plastic off the cowl as the motor was a bit close for my liking,the Turnigy G10 motor was a perfect fit on the PZ motor mount so no change needed there.
The difference in power was night and day and i'm well pleased as the PZ corsair is like a new plane.


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Does this 480 plus out perform better than the Emax BL2820/09 and the Power Up 15 sport?

These are the 3 I see you list for this and the T-28. I want to buy the strongest one.
the Emax BL2820/09 is a 919KV motor, its ok to putt around with, but wont give you very much speed on a 3 cell lipo, better to use a 4 cell with a low kv motor, or it will be a Dog.

the power up 15 sport is a 960 kv motor, it will be a Dog on 3 cells but will shine with 4 cell Lipo

the HK motor that startazz suggested is better for speed and performance with 1200 KV,

the power up ( SPEED ) 480 motor is 1450 KV much much better for speed and performance with a 3 cell lipo, Hope that helps, Chellie

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Startazz/Chellie,
Took out my ole PZ T-28 for a spin on Sunday. I was reminded on how slow she really is stock. When I got her over a year ago, I thought she was pretty darn fast. I guess I'm a little more accustomed to speed now than I was a year ago.

If I'm ready this correctly and want to " Pimp my ride" , I could go with a direct replacement using the Turnigy G10(no new mount needed) and then jack up the amps on the esc to a 50? I have 2200 mah 3S 30C and 2650 4S 30 C NanoTechs in my stockpile.

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Does this 480 plus out perform better than the Emax BL2820/09 and the Power Up 15 sport?

These are the 3 I see you list for this and the T-28. I want to buy the strongest one.
Chellie answered this question pretty well, but I'll say that the T-28 is definitely not a dog using a 3 cell Lipo with any of the three motors that we recommend. The stock motor is 960kv, while the Power Up 480 Plus and the Power up 15 Sport are both 1000kv motors. If you use a 10x7 prop with either of these motors, you'll see a very nice increase in performance over the stock set up. I know this for a fact, because we purchased a T-28 for testing, and we flew it with the stock motor, then all three motors that we recommend. If you want crazy fast performance, then use the Emax BL2820/09 with a 4 cell Lipo and a 10x5, or even a 10x7 prop. The Emax motor is a drop in fit, so you don't need to purchase an adapter. You'll find the actual cost with shipping is about the same as the HobbyKing motor that was mentioned. You'll need a different ESC to use with the Emax (or HK) motor, and I suggest the Hifei 45A if you want to run with a 4 cell battery.
For what it's worth, I installed the Emax BL2820/07 motor in our T-28 and ran it a lot with a 3 cell Lipo and an 11x7E prop, and I was very happy with the performance. Running with a 4 cell and a 10x7 is incredibly fast, and that's fine, if that's what you're after.
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Jeff,

You guys rock ! I've never been disappointed ordering things from Headsuprc.

I have a Hurc 40 Amp ESC waiting for a new home. I have the PZ T-28. Would it work okay with the BL2820/09 running on 4S ? No new mount required? I have a 9x6 MAS on there now. Much rather order from you guys.

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Jeff,

You guys rock ! I've never been disappointed ordering things from Headsuprc.

I have a Hurc 40 Amp ESC waiting for a new home. I have the PZ T-28. Would it work okay with the BL2820/09 running on 4S ? No new mount required? I have a 9x6 MAS on there now. Much rather order from you guys.

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Thanks for the nice comments!
The HURC 40A has a linear BEC, so I don't suggest using it to power 4 servos when using a 4 cell Lipo. I've seen guys do it, but I'd be concerned about the BEC overheating. Maybe you should try the BL2820/09 with the HURC 40A ESC, 3 cell Lipo, and a 10x7 MAS prop, and see how you like it. You can always go to a 4 cell and a different ESC later if you want.
Just my 2 cents....

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A double thanks and one for Chellie too !

Headed to the Headsuprc site!



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Rut Ro !

Could it be the 2820/07 or the 2820/06 ? I could not find the Emax 2820/09 on your site. Direct replacement....

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I think it's the 2820/07.

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I always go under motor mounts and click T-28/Corsair mount. The 3 motors they suggest are listed.

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Sorry, guess that was my typo that sent you the wrong direction.

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Rut Ro !

Could it be the 2820/07 or the 2820/06 ? I could not find the Emax 2820/09 on your site. Direct replacement....

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Sorry....it's the Emax BL2820/07, not the BL2820/09 as I stated.

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I just ordered the Emax BL2820/07 motor, 50 amp ESC, and a 11X7E prop.

I'll put it in my T-28 and if I like it I'll order another for my Corsair.

I also ordered some LEDs and other misc. I love HURC.

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Chellie answered this question pretty well, but I'll say that the T-28 is definitely not a dog using a 3 cell Lipo with any of the three motors that we recommend. The stock motor is 960kv, while the Power Up 480 Plus and the Power up 15 Sport are both 1000kv motors. If you use a 10x7 prop with either of these motors, you'll see a very nice increase in performance over the stock set up. I know this for a fact, because we purchased a T-28 for testing, and we flew it with the stock motor, then all three motors that we recommend. If you want crazy fast performance, then use the Emax BL2820/09 with a 4 cell Lipo and a 10x5, or even a 10x7 prop. The Emax motor is a drop in fit, so you don't need to purchase an adapter. You'll find the actual cost with shipping is about the same as the HobbyKing motor that was mentioned. You'll need a different ESC to use with the Emax (or HK) motor, and I suggest the Hifei 45A if you want to run with a 4 cell battery.
For what it's worth, I installed the Emax BL2820/07 motor in our T-28 and ran it a lot with a 3 cell Lipo and an 11x7E prop, and I was very happy with the performance. Running with a 4 cell and a 10x7 is incredibly fast, and that's fine, if that's what you're after.
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Hi Jeff Nice to See You on Wattflyers The 480 I was Refering to was the Speed 480 at 1450 KV , motors under 1000kv on a 3 cell are IMHO R Dogs I am a Hot Rodder But thats just IMHO I like Speed and Performance Keep Up the Great Work Jeff Take care and have fun, Chellie

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here is my Favorite setup 480 motor 1000kv, 4 cell lipo 2350 mah 25 to 40C, 40amp ESC, APC 11 X 5.5 Prop, in my Scratch built Katana with a 48" WS, it will take off in about 3 to 5 feet straight up



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