Old Electrics

[jap71173]

I have the oppertunity to buy some 7 year old r/c stuff from someone... my questions is... "Is it worth it"??? and "how much has hadware changed in 7 years"?

Descripton: 20 unbuilt Parkflyer kits, 5 PNP (just add radio), approx 20+ brushless motors, 50+ props and other misc items

all for $500... what do you guys think

(p.s. no i havn't seen it yet)

[wolfewinde]

Probably somewhere between a good value and a steal - if the kits have all the pieces and the RTF's are in good shape and they are planes you will fly.

Motors are probably good - motor tech hasn't changes all that much in 5 years I don't think except that it has gotten cheaper

Wolfe

[jap71173]

OMG...Holy ... WOW... What a DEAL!!!!

I just went 50/50 with my friend and we bought out everything this guy had ALL FOR $500!!!

- There something like 15 Balsa and 15 foam planes
- Dozens of motors (inrunners, outrunners, brushed w/gear boxes and brushless
- A watt's up Meter, Hobbico Tachometer, Brushless ESC programming card
- About 100 props, APC, GWS, etc., 20+ prop adapters, 40+ motor mounts

The list goes on... and on...and on... I have only gotten through about 1/2 the stuff as of this post.

Here are some photos of just a few of the planes from this SWEET deal...

(hey, maybe i can get a cool little logo by my name for the best r/c shopper, lol)

[CHELLIE]

you made out like a BANDIT Good for you

[rcers]

You did good most of the time those deals are full of junk. You have some excellent planes in that group!

[jap71173]

Here's another one from the bunch... Just tried it out at the small baseball park.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9VGE...e_gdata_player


Sent from my EVO

[Lieutenant Loughead]

Nice! Good for you. I wonder what possessed the seller to sell so darned cheap?

[jap71173]

Originally Posted by Lieutenant Loughead

Nice! Good for you. I wonder what possessed the seller to sell so darned cheap?

The guy just hadn't flown in years since his kids got out of high school and moved on to other hobbies (girls maybe)... His wife was tired of using up a whole room in the house for just his outdated hobby... so he sold it all to keep the peace i would say... (i should go back and thank his wife....lol)

Here's another one... test flown and flies great!

[CHELLIE]

Nice Flight on the Moth take care, Chellie

[Big Johnny]

I once got a Killer Deal on a CanAm 250 Dirt bike. Dude didn't want his wife to get it during a DIVORCE. He also let a bass boat and other man toys go dirt cheap, then he hit her with the divorce papers ( She was sleeping around on him)

[jap71173]

Originally Posted by CHELLIE

Nice Flight on the Moth take care, Chellie

Hey Chellie,

The motor in this Moth was a inrunner w/gearbox... I'm changing it over to a direct drive brushless. This is the motor i put in it is the PJS 3D 550E (800kV)... and i'm using a 2S 1300 mAh. battery

As you know i'm still trying to get a handle on which prop goes with which motor which goes with what plane... (phew, say that 5 times)

My question is what prop would you suggest?? or am i destined to crash using that motor?

The old prop was a APC 9x6... and the plane weighs in at 16.5oz with no batt... I should also mention the prop adapter is actually a propsaver which is fused on so there’s no changing it!

[CHELLIE]

you will need to use a 3 cell lipo with that motor, because it has a low 800KV, a 2 cell lipo wont give you any thrust. the 9x6 with a 3 cell lipo will work great. Go to the web page that sells the motors that you are using, and they will normally tell you what prop to use with how many lipo cells to use. hope that helps, Chellie

4a * ON SALE 1/4 PRICE * FOR OUTDOOR 1m PLANES:PJS 3 D 550E OUTRUNNER MOTOR, 50g, 650g Thrust
** ON SALE, AT 1/4 PRICE ** ....For all aerobatic /3D indoor & park flyer planes, up to 500g weight. Perfect for RC-Factory FLASH EPP & YAK EPP; and for Fancy Foam Outdoor planes. ...Engineered SUPERBLY. Cost only £14 (previous retail price: £59.99)... .... Specifications:  Static thrust: up to 650g;  Number of cells: 3 to 4 Li-Po;  Max. efficiency current: 13,5A;  Weight: 50g;  Dimensions: Ø 32mm x 45mm ; ....Shaft diameter: 4mm ;...  Recommended props: APC 10/4,7; 11/4,7 – 3 to 4 Li-Po;  Suitable Speed Controller: 18A; .....These "External Rotor" (“Outrunner”) brushless motors are very powerful indeed. They are very easy to use, and very silent running. You could be only 20 feet away and all you will hear is a faint noise from the whirling prop. .....They give a different "feel" to the flying of the model airplane. At half throttle, you'll feel that the motor is silently pulling the airplane through the air at flying speeds –and effortlessly. ....Using an appropriate brushless speed controller will give you smooth and fast throttle response. Then when you open the throttle to FULL, the airplane will shoot ahead like you've never seen before.

[jap71173]

Originally Posted by CHELLIE

you will need to use a 3 cell lipo with that motor, because it has a low 800KV, a 2 cell lipo wont give you any thrust. the 9x6 with a 3 cell lipo will work great. Go to the web page that sells the motors that you are using, and they will normally tell you what prop to use with how many lipo cells to use. hope that helps, Chellie

4a * ON SALE 1/4 PRICE * FOR OUTDOOR 1m PLANES:PJS 3 D 550E OUTRUNNER MOTOR, 50g, 650g Thrust
** ON SALE, AT 1/4 PRICE ** ....For all aerobatic /3D indoor & park flyer planes, up to 500g weight. Perfect for RC-Factory FLASH EPP & YAK EPP; and for Fancy Foam Outdoor planes. ...Engineered SUPERBLY. Cost only £14 (previous retail price: £59.99)... .... Specifications:  Static thrust: up to 650g;  Number of cells: 3 to 4 Li-Po;  Max. efficiency current: 13,5A;  Weight: 50g;  Dimensions: Ø 32mm x 45mm ; ....Shaft diameter: 4mm ;...  Recommended props: APC 10/4,7; 11/4,7 – 3 to 4 Li-Po;  Suitable Speed Controller: 18A; .....These "External Rotor" (“Outrunner”) brushless motors are very powerful indeed. They are very easy to use, and very silent running. You could be only 20 feet away and all you will hear is a faint noise from the whirling prop. .....They give a different "feel" to the flying of the model airplane. At half throttle, you'll feel that the motor is silently pulling the airplane through the air at flying speeds –and effortlessly. ....Using an appropriate brushless speed controller will give you smooth and fast throttle response. Then when you open the throttle to FULL, the airplane will shoot ahead like you've never seen before.

Thanks Chellie... The one i have says 550E... I think the 550 is a 1225kv, but mine is only 800kv... ok, so with a 3S batt would it hurt to put a 10x7SF or is that way too much pitch?

[CHELLIE]

Originally Posted by jap71173

Thanks Chellie... The one i have says 550E... I think the 550 is a 1225kv, but mine is only 800kv... ok, so with a 3S batt would it hurt to put a 10x7SF or is that way too much pitch?

thats way to much pitch/prop for a 3 cell, the specs say 10 x 4.7 on 3 cells that may burn your motor up, you could use that 10x7 prop with a 2 cell if your going to use that much pitch on the prop, do you have a Wattmeter, if you do, always check the amp draw and keep it with in the MFG specs. i belive you can use the 9x6 with a 3 cell

a 10 x 4.7 prop is close to a 10 x 5 prop

[jap71173]

Originally Posted by CHELLIE

thats way to much pitch/prop for a 3 cell, the specs say 10 x 4.7 on 3 cells that may burn your motor up, you could use that 10x7 prop with a 2 cell if your going to use that much pitch on the prop, do you have a Wattmeter, if you do, always check the amp draw and keep it with in the MFG specs.

a 10 x 4.7 prop is close to a 10 x 5 prop

Ok, thanks again... i will heed your warning and stick with a 10x4.7 and a 3S and see what happens.

I did score a Watts Up meter in my bulk deal but theres no manual and i just havn't had the time to download and read a pdf on how to use it yet... guess i should now!

[CHELLIE]

this info may be of help

RC SU 34 testing Watts UP Meter to Calculate Max. Flight time of your LiPo.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...980a9ce857285c

http://www.rc-electronics-usa.com/am...simulator.html

[jap71173]

Originally Posted by CHELLIE

this info may be of help

RC SU 34 testing Watts UP Meter to Calculate Max. Flight time of your LiPo.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...980a9ce857285c

http://www.rc-electronics-usa.com/am...simulator.html

Thanks again... so what does "Max efficiency 13.5 amps" mean?

I ran the wattmeter on her this morning with a 3S 1000mAh 30C battery and a 10x4.7SF prop and got only 8.36 Amps @ 89 watts... Does this mean she can handle a larger prop no problem??

[CHELLIE]

Originally Posted by jap71173

Thanks again... so what does "Max efficiency 13.5 amps" mean?

I ran the wattmeter on her this morning with a 3S 1000mAh 30C battery and a 10x4.7SF prop and got only 8.36 Amps @ 89 watts... Does this mean she can handle a larger prop no problem??

yes you can load it up to around 14 Amps and be ok, yes you can use a bigger prop or more pitch, be carefull because with a larger MAH lipo, that could change, Take care and have fun, Chellie

[jap71173]

Originally Posted by CHELLIE

yes you can load it up to around 14 Amps and be ok, yes you can use a bigger prop or more pitch, be carefull because with a larger MAH lipo, that could change, Take care and have fun, Chellie

Thanks Chellie, your always a helpful blessing to me and Wattflyer

[CHELLIE]

Originally Posted by jap71173

Thanks Chellie, your always a helpful blessing to me and Wattflyer

Awe Shucks Thank You

[texasclouds]

those are some nice looking Mountain Models builds...

[jap71173]

Thanks... There were just so many planes i never got the chance to open all the boxes and go through them... I just found a few more cool NIB kits like the EVA w/interchangable wings for sport or Bipe and also a Pitts Special Bipe!

So i just started putting together my first ever balsa kit... fun fun fun!!!

[dkrhardy]

Jeeeeeez! Stop bragging! You did well, eh?

[road king 97]

I was doing fine till i seen you flying the moth around . lmao Good for you! ,i hope you find more. I have been hitting estate sales and garage sales for 20 + years and buying of a guys getting out of the hobby,you can find great deals on rc that way. joe

[jap71173]

ok, so now that i finished most of the build...i'm at the step where it says to cover it. I got about 50+ rolls of the kote stuff in my deal, i even got the iron (but no heat gun)...

Can someone point me to a thread that instructs on how to apply the kote... i'm as newb as they come with this stuff (never done it)

i started testing my unskill on some scraps and failed. I get it to stick but i get major crinkles and how do i do the edges?