Electric smoke system

[FlyingBrick50]

Hey folks,

A quick question, does anyone know of a smoke system for electric aircraft, I hear you laughing,...ok ok ok enough, any suggestions?

[Big Johnny]

I have also thought about that very same thing. You could use some sort of heating element and ram air, but I would be affraid my plane would look like a Japanese Zero at the Mariana's Turkey Shoot, Too much smoke and flames going down in a hurry only to become a splat mark on the windshield of Mother Earth.

[FlyingBrick50]

Originally Posted by Big Johnny

I have also thought about that very same thing. You could use some sort of heating element and ram air, but I would be affraid my plane would look like a Japanese Zero at the Mariana's Turkey Shoot, Too much smoke and flames going down in a hurry only to become a splat mark on the windshield of Mother Earth.

Ouch, lets be positive, give it a chance, wattflyers can do it

[CHELLIE]

There is one on the market, I think I saved the link

[gramps2161]

Is this the one your thinking of Chellie? http://rcsmoke.com/

[Wildflyer]

I had a big smoke trail coming out of one of my electric airplanes.

It only lasted for a little while and then the plane became a glider.

Cost me about $15 for 10 seconds of smoke. ( Too big a prop )

[Big Johnny]

I have a coulpe of old Goofy Grape and Looney Lime smoke granades, with a date stamp of 1968. They would put out some serious smoke now, Are they produce heat when opened??? I have been saving them for years, for something.

[CHELLIE]

Originally Posted by gramps2161

Is this the one your thinking of Chellie? http://rcsmoke.com/

Hi Gramps, no thats not it, it uses water, and turns it into a vapor, I will try to find it, I Know I saved it somewhere

Ok I found it, but it may be too heavy for rc planes

http://www.benedini.de/Home_E/Produc...e.html#SmokerE

[CNY_Dave]

One key parameter required- do you want to make smoke and stay within the confines of what the AMA says is acceptable, or is the field 'wide open', as they say?

Dave

[FlyingBrick50]

Originally Posted by CHELLIE

Hi Gramps, no thats not it, it uses water, and turns it into a vapor, I will try to find it, I Know I saved it somewhere

Ok I found it, but it may be too heavy for rc planes

http://www.benedini.de/Home_E/Produc...e.html#SmokerE

I believe your right a little large for air rc

[FlyingBrick50]

Originally Posted by CNY_Dave

One key parameter required- do you want to make smoke and stay within the confines of what the AMA says is acceptable, or is the field 'wide open', as they say?

Dave

- there is none at this phase just looking around

[CNY_Dave]

AMA rules on smoke:

2. Model aircraft pilots will:
(i) Not operate model aircraft carrying pyrotechnic devices which explode or burn, or any device which propels a projectile or drops any object that creates a hazard to persons or property.
Exceptions:

- Free Flight fuses or devices that burn producing smoke and are securely attached to the model aircraft during flight.
- Rocket motors (using solid propellant) up to a G-series size may be used provided they remain attached to the model during flight. Model rockets
may be flown in accordance with the National Model Rocketry Safety Code but may not be launched from model aircraft.
- Officially designated AMA Air Show Teams (AST) are authorized to use devices and practices as defined within the Team AMA Program
Document (AMA Document #718).

from:
http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/105.PDF

[CNY_Dave]

Which makes it sound to me as though a very inefficient and smoky rocket engine is fair game.

Dave

[Big Johnny]

Originally Posted by CNY_Dave

AMA rules on smoke:

2. Model aircraft pilots will:
(i) Not operate model aircraft carrying pyrotechnic devices which explode or burn, or any device which propels a projectile or drops any object that creates a hazard to persons or property.
Exceptions:

- Free Flight fuses or devices that burn producing smoke and are securely attached to the model aircraft during flight.
- Rocket motors (using solid propellant) up to a G-series size may be used provided they remain attached to the model during flight. Model rockets
may be flown in accordance with the National Model Rocketry Safety Code but may not be launched from model aircraft.
- Officially designated AMA Air Show Teams (AST) are authorized to use devices and practices as defined within the Team AMA Program
Document (AMA Document #718).

from:
http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/105.PDF

You mean I have to take the 100 bottle rockets off my foamy, I was going to use for RATO??? Even the Cherry Bombs for my simulated bombing.

[CNY_Dave]

I look at it this way- if you fly at an AMA field, and expect to be covered by AMA insurance should something go wrong, the rules are da rules.

[FlyingBrick50]

Originally Posted by CNY_Dave

I look at it this way- if you fly at an AMA field, and expect to be covered by AMA insurance should something go wrong, the rules are da rules.

Look folks I am ama as well, thanks for the imput

The question is are they out there not what are the rules just looking around to see what is out there

calm down

[CNY_Dave]

I was just trying to delineate the two options (AMA sanctioned, and not) because it changes the landscape on what you can use so drastically, I'm not one of those folks who recoil in shock and horror if you equip your plane with rockets and bombs and EMP weapons, as long as you use good judgement in where and when and in front of whom you enjoy it all.

Heck, you're talking to a guy that likes to fill a 30 gallon trash bag with an acetylene-oxygen mix...


Dave

[FlyingBrick50]

Originally Posted by CNY_Dave

I was just trying to delineate the two options (AMA sanctioned, and not) because it changes the landscape on what you can use so drastically, I'm not one of those folks who recoil in shock and horror if you equip your plane with rockets and bombs and EMP weapons, as long as you use good judgement in where and when and in front of whom you enjoy it all.

Heck, you're talking to a guy that likes to fill a 30 gallon trash bag with an acetylene-oxygen mix...

Dave

wow what did you do with it

[CNY_Dave]

Strike a spark and it's like a nuke going off... incredible purple flash, and in the Hudson valley region good for about 10 seconds worth of echoes.

Yet, almost no destructive power, and no evidence.

Dave

[FlyingBrick50]

cool

[Cdr. Instigator]

Found these while doing a quick google search.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/Smo...&cm_vc=IDPBBZ2

[CNY_Dave]

If it doesn't get hot enough to be called a 'pyrotechnic' that looks like it would even be AMA compatible.

[CNY_Dave]

Actually, looks like the link mentioned

http://www.rcsmoke.com/

is Regin, who makes a lot of the HVAC smoke products sold at Granger and others.

Dave

[CHELLIE]

Originally Posted by CNY_Dave

I was just trying to delineate the two options (AMA sanctioned, and not) because it changes the landscape on what you can use so drastically, I'm not one of those folks who recoil in shock and horror if you equip your plane with rockets and bombs and EMP weapons, as long as you use good judgement in where and when and in front of whom you enjoy it all.

Heck, you're talking to a guy that likes to fill a 30 gallon trash bag with an acetylene-oxygen mix...


Dave

I fill big balloons with acet/oxy and hydrogen and oxy, Boom Sooooo I am a Pyro, Sooooo the smoke system I was Talking about uses water vapor/mist to make a vapor/smoke, its very very safe.

[FlyingBrick50]

Originally Posted by CHELLIE

I fill big balloons with acet/oxy and hydrogen and oxy, Boom Sooooo I am a Pyro, Sooooo the smoke system I was Talking about uses water vapor/mist to make a vapor/smoke, its very very safe.

water vapor would do it, just finding a system that is small enough,........?