What is a good 3D beginner airplane??

[microflight]

hello. i have to Park flyer airplanes both made by parkzone . i have the mosquito and the radian. i am getting more into the ulra micro airplanes and I am trying to learn 3D aerobatics. What would be a good ultra micro plane to start learning how to do 3D with?? -thanks

[squidger]

Hi, Ultra micro planes are not good to learn 3d on as they need to be flown pretty fast. If you want to learn 3d flying get yourself a foamy Yak or similar in at least 40 inch wing span. This will fly alot slower and do all 3d manoevres easily.

Yak55.MPG

When you have some experience the ultra micro SBACH is a superb micro and will do most manouvres but as I said earlier it needs to be flown pretty fast.

[mclarkson]

You're looking for something like one of these.

EPP foam is light and effectively indestructible.

[squidger]

Yep. Any of the above

[microflight]

are there any airplanes like that, that come in pnp or bnf versions?

[mclarkson]

Off the top of my head, I can't think of any.

[squidger]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TECHONE-MI...0#ht_500wt_715

[Eric Tessmer]

You may consider the MPX Parkmaster. I love mine and it is both durable and has great flight range from fast to slow and will do any 3D manuver in the book with style. Here is mine:

[microflight]

how much did it cost??

[Eric Tessmer]

About $120 from Tower Hobbies w/ free shipping.

[mclarkson]

Just a note: that's for an ARF version (minus servos, ESC, motor, etc.)

[microflight]

what about the parkzone sukoi to learn basic aerobatics first then move up to 3D when I'm ready. a local pilot here told me that thats what i should do.

[squidger]

Trust me, you won't learn much flying a micro aircraft. They are great fun in small areas when you have perfected your flying but you need to be a competent flyer as they pretty much buzz around on near full throttle the whole time.I have the Sukhoi, Beast, and Sbach and all are great but not for learning.If you really must have a micro and want to learn and have access to a large indoor venue then try the Eflight Extra 300 micro as that at least can be slowed down and may allow you to try a few manoevres.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/E-Flite-UM...#ht_2095wt_754

[microflight]

i have been practicing on a simulator with an aircraft lie the extra 300 and ive been able to pull off flat spins, tumbles, inverted stuff and basic stuff like that, and should i get a better controller than the dx5e that i currently own??? thanks i know im a beginner and how frusterating that can be.

[mclarkson]

The DX5 is a fine radio, but it lacks expo and other key features that will really help you out.

[squidger]

As said the DX5 is a good radio. As well as lacking expo it also doesn't have the ability to fly 3d helis which you may want to do later on. The DX6i does everything and can hold 10 model memories too.Can be bought for under £100 and IMHO alot of radio for not alot of money.

[scruffmeister]

I would consider the Multiplex Parkmaster, Acromaster or an RC Factory Yak 55

[microflight]

What about the parkzone extra

[losifanatic]

The dx5E is a very poor choice for a radio on any type of 3D aircraft. Its OK for sport but thats it. even a flat foam 3d plane its not recommended at all.

Starting out in 3D you will not want a mico plane. You are not going to learn much that way. If you want to stay with foam get your self a flat epp 3d plane from like twisted hobbies or 3dhs. (they are some of the best made) You will learm more on that than ANY MICR PLANE. Plus they are EPP so very crash resistant.

Before buying a plane I highly recommend a better radio. Since you alreadu fly Spektrum I recommend a dx7 or dx8. The dx6i is not a very good radio and WILL hinder performance on a 3D aircraft. So first and formost buy a GOOD radio. with that radio you will notice how much nicer and easier your current planes will fly. Then you will be ready to get a 3D plane.

[fliprob17]

+1 on the DX5 not being the greatest for an aerobatic/3D pilot

Invest in a radio that will give you many years of service - DX-7, DX-8, Hitec Aurora 9, etc.

I would also stay away from the "micro" - twitchy little monsters, and they're really not going to help you learn anything.

Pick up a flat EPP foamie in the 30-40" range.

Here's a couple pics of the two I've been flying lately. 34" EDGE and 38" AJ Slick, both manuf. by 3D Hobby Shop. Durable, bouncy little nerf footballs

[Ron Dog]

Twisted Hobbys has a bunch of Great flying EPP planes! The Vector is a good 3-D plane that will slow down to a walk,and still do advanced manuvers as your skill level increases! It will also take a beating,and come back for more! Ron

[Ron Dog]

Also forgot! Like mentioned above,the micro planes are for intermed/advanced flyers. They are very 'twitchey". Not the best choice for learning 3-D. Ron

[Big Johnny]

I will have to Agree and Disagree. The Radio is almost more important than the plane. I bought a and DX7 and a Ultra Extra 300 & Foresite. I have never hovered an airplane before and had no problem hovering the E300. The secret is in the setup of throws and expo.

[fmw]

Here's my choice for a 3D trainer. Not because of it's amazing performance but because it is incredibly easy to fly and yet will do all the 3D maneuvers competently. Cheap? No. Foam? No. but it is really easy to fly and, there fore a great 3D trainer.

[Deca]

My first 3D plane was a Typhoon 2...I've had a lot of fun with that plane but was never totally happy with its performance. Never wanted to settle into a hover and had some issues with knife edge. It's great with other maneuvers though so I can't call it a bad plane, I could probably mess around with it a bit and get it flying better.

I took a break from flying for about a year until just recently. Got back into helis and after going to my first indoor meet decided I missed flying fixed wing too. Got myself a UMX Extra 300 and that thing is a lot of fun! Only issues I've had with it are some occasionally unpredictable tip stalls (SFGs would probably help, I'll have to try them at some point) and occasional loss of aileron authority in hovers (that one I don't understand at all, any help/explanation would be appreciated there).

I just built myself a Fancy Foam EPP 3Decathlon and will be maidening it this coming Sunday...I'm nervous about flying it just because of the work put into it, it was my first kit build...which also makes me worried I screwed something up I guess I've never flown a "good" 3d foamy before and I'm not completely sure what to expect from it. I'm just hoping it flies predictably and SLOWLY, I'm worried I built it too heavy, but don't really have anything to compare it to and haven't been able to weigh it...just paranoia at this stage.

(Was going to post some photos of my plane but apparently I'm not allowed to yet!)