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Old 06-24-2012, 09:03 PM   #1
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Before I had to wear prescription glasses - my Raybans were literally a permanent wear item. I found they had excellent contrast for model flying.

Since having to wear glasses as normal - I cannot wear my beloved Raybans .... and have resorted to "Clip-on" sun shades. Before buying - I checked out various and found out that certain colours were preferred by Hunters with exact same requirements .... contrast.

I can say that the info I got was spot on by the shop .... and at $15 a set, well worth it.

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I use my ballistics sunglasses that I use on the shooting range. They are kinda the reverse of clip ons. The prescription portion clip onto the inside of the sunglasses and no one can tell I am as blind as can be. They just think I am "Hollywood"

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I just switched from clip-ons to some polarized, amber colored Fitovers I found at Cabelas. I love them so far.

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when i had a persciption filled for reading glasses, the doctor said she could perscribe sunglasses for better vision distance wise. i choose the blue tint over amber as the colors didn't change like the ambers would as i tried sample glasses before my final choice. i love these glasses and they are scratch free and are solely for flying....it makes distance flying so much clearer.

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Now this is interesting .... Clip-ons I know .... Fit-overs ?, Ballistics ?

Didn't know there were other types ....

I was offered photochromatic prescription glasses but the pricing was crazy - it more than doubled the price of my varilense glasses.

The previous I had were dark blue-green, but these latest are dark amber which are better than the first.

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Several of the (older) guys I fly with use the shooting glasses over their rx glasses. Most of them seem to prefer the yellow. Thats a very inexpensive option and it does help with the sun glare and seeing the models against the sky. They can be as cheep as clip-ons.

I dont much like the yellow though and the ones I could find did not come in polarized versions and didnt have 100% UV protection - which my eye doc says I need now.

I priced the rx sunglasses but aside from being $$$$, they did not offer all the options I wanted in a single lens.

The Fitovers I found at Cabelas were the only ones large enough to actually fit over my rx glasses and they work very well for about $25

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Never tried the amber ones. I usually wear these fit-over polarized glasses over my 'scripts, but sometimes I wear my stylin' Ray-Bans (although, when I do, I can't read the Tx very well. )

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How do you get away with using the polarized lenses, every time I try them I can't read the screen on my radio.

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Azarr, tilt your head about 10 degrees when you need to look at the screen.

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The number of times I've looked at my PDA or other screen and believed it's 'broken' ... as I see black areas .... but take the polarized glasses of and screen suddenly appears OK ....

I like the clip-ons as I can flip them up out of way when needed ... and the ones I have are matched to my prescription glasses in size to cover the lenses fully. All for about $15.

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Originally Posted by mclarkson View Post
Never tried the amber ones. I usually wear these fit-over polarized glasses over my 'scripts, but sometimes I wear my stylin' Ray-Bans (although, when I do, I can't read the Tx very well. )
Why not take your Raybans in and get prescription lenses put in?
I am a optical lab manager and half the eye wear I manufacture is name brand sunglasses such as rayban and oakley.
For best visibility while at the field use an amber tinted lens.
Amber ( also known as blue blockers ) inhibit blue wave length light. Blue light causes
haziness in distance viewing. It makes seeing small details at any distance difficult.
For that reason stay away from blue or grey tinted lenses.
Yellow lenses such as used for shooting and the such are ok but have a tendency to make things overly bright and cause eye strain when used in sunny environments for
extended times.
While clip-ons are convenient they have some serious drawbacks as well.
They tend to be smaller than purpose made sunglasses allowing light leakage around the outside of the lens. That leakage causes reflection off the cheeks and onto the inside of the lens. This causes a mirror effect on the backside of the lens that reduces
how well you can see. That leakage also negates any UV protection offered by the clip-on.
If you can afford to, get brown polarized lenses. They offer some of the benefits
of amber lenses while removing road glare wile driving.

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Originally Posted by Wrongway-Feldman View Post
Why not take your Raybans in and get prescription lenses put in?
But in that case why not just get a full prescription set done instead of ruining a good set of RB's ? My RB's cost me over $200 20yrs ago .... not a cheap amount !

I am a optical lab manager and half the eye wear I manufacture is name brand sunglasses such as rayban and oakley.
For best visibility while at the field use an amber tinted lens.
Amber ( also known as blue blockers ) inhibit blue wave length light. Blue light causes haziness in distance viewing. It makes seeing small details at any distance difficult.
So the guys at my local shop were spot on !! I have to say that in use - I absolutely agree with the amber being good.

For that reason stay away from blue or grey tinted lenses.
Yellow lenses such as used for shooting and the such are ok but have a tendency to make things overly bright and cause eye strain when used in sunny environments for extended times.
Nice to know from an Optical specialist.

While clip-ons are convenient they have some serious drawbacks as well. They tend to be smaller than purpose made sunglasses allowing light leakage around the outside of the lens. That leakage causes reflection off the cheeks and onto the inside of the lens. This causes a mirror effect on the backside of the lens that reduces how well you can see. That leakage also negates any UV protection offered by the clip-on.
The Clip-ons I have are matched to my glasses and this doesn't happen .... but the first I had - stolen from me - were less wide and allowed light in from side. The next set I bought in Dubai were USA made ... but too big and sit on the cheeks. They are kept as spare ... my final set bought from the same shop as my first are spot-on match for the glasses they made for me.

If you can afford to, get brown polarized lenses. They offer some of the benefits of amber lenses while removing road glare wile driving.
Used the amber while driving and excellent again. As I said before - I like the clip-on, being able to flip them up when I want clear view ....

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Or just get your eyes lasered and forget all this prescription folderol

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Originally Posted by Azarr View Post
How do you get away with using the polarized lenses, every time I try them I can't read the screen on my radio.

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The Fitovers I got let me see the screen just fine on my 9C but it does depend on the tilt of the head to some degree. I can also see my radio screen in the car etc. My clip-ons are worse for some reason.

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Originally Posted by Wrongway-Feldman View Post
Why not take your Raybans in and get prescription lenses put in?
I am a optical lab manager and half the eye wear I manufacture is name brand sunglasses such as rayban and oakley.
For best visibility while at the field use an amber tinted lens.
Amber ( also known as blue blockers ) inhibit blue wave length light. Blue light causes
haziness in distance viewing. It makes seeing small details at any distance difficult.
For that reason stay away from blue or grey tinted lenses.
Yellow lenses such as used for shooting and the such are ok but have a tendency to make things overly bright and cause eye strain when used in sunny environments for
extended times.
While clip-ons are convenient they have some serious drawbacks as well.
They tend to be smaller than purpose made sunglasses allowing light leakage around the outside of the lens. That leakage causes reflection off the cheeks and onto the inside of the lens. This causes a mirror effect on the backside of the lens that reduces
how well you can see. That leakage also negates any UV protection offered by the clip-on.
If you can afford to, get brown polarized lenses. They offer some of the benefits
of amber lenses while removing road glare wile driving.
Put my vote in for darker amber prescription sun glasses (JC Pennys Optical) Also have standard prescription grey sunglasses, for me,the amber units superior. If you can find amber clip on glasses, try them out. I've found several pairs at Walgreens for about $12 each.

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Originally Posted by Wrongway-Feldman View Post
Why not take your Raybans in and get prescription lenses put in?
I am a optical lab manager and half the eye wear I manufacture is name brand sunglasses such as rayban and oakley.
For best visibility while at the field use an amber tinted lens.
Amber ( also known as blue blockers ) inhibit blue wave length light. Blue light causes
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For that reason stay away from blue or grey tinted lenses.
Yellow lenses such as used for shooting and the such are ok but have a tendency to make things overly bright and cause eye strain when used in sunny environments for
extended times.
While clip-ons are convenient they have some serious drawbacks as well.
They tend to be smaller than purpose made sunglasses allowing light leakage around the outside of the lens. That leakage causes reflection off the cheeks and onto the inside of the lens. This causes a mirror effect on the backside of the lens that reduces
how well you can see. That leakage also negates any UV protection offered by the clip-on.
If you can afford to, get brown polarized lenses. They offer some of the benefits
of amber lenses while removing road glare wile driving.
That explains why I dont like my amber clip-ons even though they fit my lens size perfectly! The reflection thing never ocured to me.

The Fitovers have a seal all along the top and wrap around the sides so there is little to no light leakage. Thats probably a large part of why they seem to work so much better.

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Or just get your eyes lasered and forget all this prescription folderol
You pay ? Unfortunately the World Leading guy (Russian) was killed in a plane crash few years back - it was he who I was going to approach to sort my eyes ... now we have limited scope in Baltic ... and expensive.

Laser is fine but cures one aspect only ... all the laser people I know still need glasses for everything other than normal view.

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Lazer doesnt do much for glare either

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No, but it does allow you to choose from many sunglasses, instead of what models you can get your particular prescription in.

Solent, forgot you were in Latvia. In the states, it's a pretty common surgery now - and was covered about 90% by my insurance. I could have gone with different corrections for each eye (one for near, one for far) and had no glasses - but depth perception wasn't as good as both set to "far" (depth perception is a Good Thing when you work at a CAT X airport ) I only need glasses for reading, and even then not all the time) Can see my 9303 just fine without glasses.

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Hi Old Fart .... it's actually common in the Baltic now but since the death of the Russian Surgeon who was a world leading specialist out of St. Petersburg - the pricing has escalated something terrible. It used to be the way, get visa'd to Russia and get this guy to do the work .... at prices that were unbelievably low, even though his work was 100 A1 ...

Sadly he died in a plane crash ... my wife knew him and we were going to contact him about it.

I know people who wear different contacts ... one eye for normal, other for reading ... I only found out about this when a fellow Director of a company I was in - I noticed he held papers to one side when reading ... I asked him why and he explained about the split contacts. He reckoned it took ages to get used to.

Contacts are a path that I am considering as I also need to wear safety glasses in some areas I go ... not so easy when you wear glasses all the time. Even the fit-over safety's - are not so comfortable for me.

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Nigel, if I remember correctly - it was about $4500- $5000US, my out of pocket was about $800US. Wish I hadn't waited until I was in my 50's to do it.

I tried the different contacts for a day as a test (to see if I wanted to do the one eye near, one eye far laser method), MAN what headaches!

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