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Old 06-27-2006, 07:09 PM   #1
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Hello all! I'm Ron and a new member here at WattFlyer. I've been into model planes for over 35 years now and tried electrics a few years ago but they did not live up to my expectations. With all of the new choices and the cost coming down daily, I have made the jump back into the electric realm. My main interest is to build/convert planes using what one would call Park-Flyer level equipment. My first real endeavor into this was to build a Vickers Wellington from Frank Baker's plan posted in the AMA mag. back in 1981 (I think).

I built the plane per the artical and plans and even used a standard covering technique (Super Coverite and paint). I know, its a bit heavy but it was what I had on the shelf. If I had to do it over, I should be able to knock off about 8oz.

Specs:
Wing Span is 67" (not sure anymore)
Weight is 5lb, RTF
Power is: 2 x 2816/0890 HiMax outrunners with 8x6SF props
2x1320 TT LiPo 3S
2xCC TB 18 ESC
Mods:
RAM Radial Sound module (sounds just like a twin)
Removable wing
Hatches in necels for bat. and esc access
Can fly on either 2 or 4 batteries but the 2 x1320 cells give me at least 7 minutes of flight with power to spare.
Cruises as 1/2-2/3 throttle. Very realistic in flight.

Yet to come: Frank's Short Stirling, K&A Mallard (almost done), Frank's Mosquito and Whirlwind. All of Frank Baker's plans are based around the OS .10FP so are great for electric conversion and can be found on the AMA site as are the plans.

Here is a picture of the Wellington just prior to painting the cowls. I had to redo them as the first set did not look right. This was the day of the maiden flight and all went well. Started out with 8x8E props but the 8x6SF are much more effiecent.
http://home.comcast.net/~fzl/PA222258.JPG

For those interested in the Mallard, I have a post in the Seaplane section but no pictures yet.

Any comments or questions, please do. I'm by no means a master modeler but I do experiment a lot and rarely try the same thing twice. Any suggestions or information on other electric multi's or interest in building planes using lower cost equipment, I'm all ears.

Ron

Closing thought:
An airplane is designed to fly on it's wing, not the engine/prop. Leave the hovering to helicopters! (IMHO anyway)
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Ron-- Love your Wellington. Has been an obsession for me of late. Do you recall at all the magazine issue and date? I'd like to order it if I can. Any more pics of it?
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Mike, you can do a search in the AMA Archives for Wellington and get to the artical. You will have to do a little searching in the Plans area to find them. I don't recall the plan number but I think you can search on name as well. There is only one Wellington in the system so should be easy to find. The artical ran in the Dec. 1980 issue and the author is Frank B. Baker. If you look around for other of Frank's plans, you will find a B-25, P-61, Mosquito, Whrilwind, and Short Stirling. The Stirling is a big plane but still will use .15 or .10 engines. This is one on my to-do list and I plan on using similar power as the Wellington.

I would suggest that you study the plan well as there are a number of changes that can be done. For one, I would sheet the wing and use a very light covering. Having the wing removable is very nice as Frank has his permanetly mounted. I did not change that much in the plans other than to make a top hatch so I could remove the wing. The wing saddle should be fine the way it is with the extra cuts. Just use strong mounting plates in the fus. and you should be fine.

I will be more than glad to provide any help I can.

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... Any more pics of it?
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I forgot to address the pictures. Yes, I do have more posted. Go to http://home.comcast.net/~fzl and I have a few others I took that day. If you are looking for more along the lines of construction, I do have a couple of it before covering. I'll provide anything I can. Just ask. (I am planning an outing at a Warbird flyin on 7/8. Plan to have my fleet out so will have plenty of pics. I hope to get a few in the air if I can find someone who can work my camara)

And, Mike, thank you for the kind words. I appreciate the comments and glad to see I'm not the only one who likes bombers.

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Hi Ron....
Welcome aboard!!! You're going to love how helpful these forums can be.
I'd love to take look at your plane but the link has died!!
Could you please renew it?
thanks Ron
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I never did post back here after building my own Wellington. I scratchbuilt it from 3-views using blue foam. Flew it again last week for the first time in more than a year, maybe two and it flew really well.

Did you ever build your Stirling or Mosquito? I'm working up 3-views of each for a scratchbuild.

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Mike, here's the source information on the Wellington.

Vickers Wellington by Frank Baker
Model Aviation Magazine
Dec 1980.
AMA Plan No.320.
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FYI... source for Short Stirling plan that Ron mentioned

Short Sterling by Frank Baker
Model Aviation Magazine
Mar 1989
AMA Plan No. 613

Believe that AMA has this listed as Short Sterling, not Short Stirling
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FYI... likely source for Mosquito plan that Ron mentioned

Mosquito by Frank Baker
Model Aviation Magazine
July 1983
AMA Plan No. 412

Even though the designer wasn't credited in the search text. Similar publication date to his other war birds. So my best guess.
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FYI... Here's the source information on the Whirlwind that Ron mentioned

Westland Whirlwind by Frank Baker
Model Aviation Magazine
June 1986
AMA Plan No. 515

Sometimes he is listed as Frank Baker and other times as Frank B Baker. AMA doesn't always credit the designer in the tag line for their plan listings so you won't necessarily be able to pull up plans by the designer name. Sort of a pity. Would make things easier if AMA did give credit where credit was due.
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Ron,

Lots of guys are getting interested in electric engine model airplanes. You seem to be on the forefront in this area. What is the biggest challenge in doing these conversions so far? Any special reason that you decided to focus on multi-engine planes for your conversion projects? I know that Frank Baker specialized in designing scale-model, WWII multi-engine bombers, so I can certainly understand why you have had his plans in mind once you focused on this area.
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