Wattflyer RC Network: RC Universe :: RCU Magazine :: RCU Forums :: RCU Classifieds :: RCU User Reviews :: RCU YouTube
Home Who's Online Calendar Today's Posts RealTime Post Spy Mark Forums Read
Go Back   WattFlyer RC Electric Flight Forums - Discuss radio control eflight > Electric R/C Airplanes > Scratch and Kit Built Aircraft
Register Members List Wattflyer Extras Articles Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Social Groups

Scratch and Kit Built Aircraft Discuss and share your scratch built or kit built aircraft as well as building techniques, methods, mediums and resources.

Thank you for your support (hide ads)
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-08-2012, 03:46 PM   #1
j3df
New Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 4
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (0)
Angry Building a Bleriot XI

Hello,

Wanting to build the Bleriot XI aircraft that crossed the English Channel, I searched for blueprints off it. I have run into a little problem.

Attached are two blueprints of the Bleriot XI. I don't know which variation is the correct one. I want to use the one that crossed the English Channel. Notice the wheel structure and the body is a little different.

Please, NO google it. I have already tried that.

One more question, I am going to build the body out of blasa wood and-I think- the wing out off foam. I am also going to use a 250 size electric motor. Looking at some other aircraft on the market, I am thinking about making the wingspan 38 in to 40 in. Any suggestions on size would help-this will be my first attempt of making a radio control airplane from scratch.

Thanks a bunch,J3dF


Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	bleriot%20XI.jpg
Views:	152
Size:	204.1 KB
ID:	164731
Click image for larger version

Name:	XI la.jpg
Views:	147
Size:	82.0 KB
ID:	164732
j3df is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 05:02 PM   #2
dgjessing
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Columbus, OH USA
Posts: 537
Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts
Club: Westerville Model Aeronautics Assoc.
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (0)
Default

Can't help with your specific question, but I'll be following along. I've always liked that plane

Any help here? http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/fac...eet.asp?id=267

Dave
AMA #56519
dgjessing is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 05:13 PM   #3
j3df
New Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 4
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (0)
Default Who to believe?

In that picture, the wheel struts connected at the front of the wing. The problem is I have seen pictures with the wheel struts connected at the middle of the wing. I don't know who to believe. I want it to look like the one that cross the channel.
j3df is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 06:01 PM   #4
xmech2k
Ya got any Beeman's?
 
xmech2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 2,479
View xmech2k's Gallery21
Thanked 226 Times in 224 Posts
Club: CVMRCC, SEFSD
Awards Showcase

1kW  Outstanding Contributor Award 
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (7)
Default

I wouldn't know a detail like that, either. If I really wanted to know that kind of a detail, in my case, I'd go check at the San Diego Air & Space Museum, but I'm here in San Diego. Don't know where you're at, maybe there's an aviation museum with a library and people there to help?
xmech2k is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 06:24 PM   #5
j3df
New Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 4
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (0)
Default PLEASE

Please help if you can
j3df is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 07:28 PM   #6
xmech2k
Ya got any Beeman's?
 
xmech2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 2,479
View xmech2k's Gallery21
Thanked 226 Times in 224 Posts
Club: CVMRCC, SEFSD
Awards Showcase

1kW  Outstanding Contributor Award 
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (7)
Default

Confession: I Googled it and Wikipedia'ed it, and found this:

Original channel crossing Bleriot XI
xmech2k is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 08:42 PM   #7
j3df
New Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 4
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (0)
Default Thanks

I have decided to go with the drawing with the struts in the middle of the wing. I watched the video of the real takeoff and I think this is correct.

Anyways, it shouldn't be to hard to change.

Thanks ya'll!
j3df is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 11:41 PM   #8
xmech2k
Ya got any Beeman's?
 
xmech2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 2,479
View xmech2k's Gallery21
Thanked 226 Times in 224 Posts
Club: CVMRCC, SEFSD
Awards Showcase

1kW  Outstanding Contributor Award 
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (7)
Default

OK. Good luck! And please post build and completed pictures. Love to see these scratch builds come together.
xmech2k is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 02:59 AM   #9
Bill G
Super Contrubutor
 
Bill G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: West Central PA
Posts: 4,195
View Bill G's Gallery82
Thanked 167 Times in 161 Posts
Club: rcg staff
Awards Showcase

Outstanding Contributor Award  Outstanding Contributor Award  Scratchbuilders Award 
iTrader: (3)
Friends: (17)
Default

If you haven't come across these two sites, they are good resources for early aircraft. Here's their pages with the Bleriot info:
http://flyingmachines.ru/Site2/Arts/Art4668.htm
http://www.modelflight.regheath.com/...10frameset.htm

You gotta love these early machines, as the photos are only so good, and sometimes few. I spent a good while reviewing photos and drawings for my Avro Type F built here recently, and realized that only one of the drawings was mostly correct, and still needing correction. The recently built replica is not correct either, making it a less than perfect resource. If the wikipedia museum Bleriot XI is the actual plane that crossed the channel, then it should be a great resource. Otherwise, I don't trust them as far as I can throw them.


Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Avro_F_35.jpg
Views:	90
Size:	105.3 KB
ID:	164746
Bill G is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2013, 07:25 AM   #10
Ikaros
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (0)
Default Drawings for Blériot XI

Hi,
If you are still interested, you can download here another set of plans & drawings for Blériot XI
Bleriot XI – scale model aircraft plans & drawings

Ikaros is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2013, 07:59 PM   #11
CHELLIE
Super Contributor
 
CHELLIE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Hesperia, So. Calif
Posts: 18,215
View CHELLIE's Gallery13
Thanked 2,109 Times in 2,019 Posts
Club: Chino Renegades RC Flying Club
Awards Showcase

Scratchbuilders Award  Scratchbuilders Award  Ambassador Award  100mph Speed Demon 
iTrader: (4)
Friends: (305)
Default

Hi j3df Please Enter your build in the $50.00 Scratch Build Contest, You can start the build now and you will have 60 days to get it done, a 38 to 40 inch wing span will work out great on that plane, Take care, Chellie

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71752

I may be getting Older, But I Refuse to grow Up I am Having to much Fun to Grow Up LOL
CHELLIE is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2013, 08:05 PM   #12
BroncoSquid
Workin on it...
 
BroncoSquid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: San Diego
Posts: 302
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Club: Bill G fan club!
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (4)
Default

(Looks around cautiously) Pssssst! Chellie. (whispering) We all love your contest, but this thread is 9 months old.

I'm either going to get good at flying em, or get good at fixin em!
BroncoSquid is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2013, 08:06 PM   #13
CHELLIE
Super Contributor
 
CHELLIE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Hesperia, So. Calif
Posts: 18,215
View CHELLIE's Gallery13
Thanked 2,109 Times in 2,019 Posts
Club: Chino Renegades RC Flying Club
Awards Showcase

Scratchbuilders Award  Scratchbuilders Award  Ambassador Award  100mph Speed Demon 
iTrader: (4)
Friends: (305)
Default

Originally Posted by j3df View Post
Hello,

Wanting to build the Bleriot XI aircraft that crossed the English Channel, I searched for blueprints off it. I have run into a little problem.

Attached are two blueprints of the Bleriot XI. I don't know which variation is the correct one. I want to use the one that crossed the English Channel. Notice the wheel structure and the body is a little different.

Please, NO google it. I have already tried that.

One more question, I am going to build the body out of blasa wood and-I think- the wing out off foam. I am also going to use a 250 size electric motor. Looking at some other aircraft on the market, I am thinking about making the wingspan 38 in to 40 in. Any suggestions on size would help-this will be my first attempt of making a radio control airplane from scratch.

Thanks a bunch,J3dF
you will need to use a bigger motor than a 250, a 400 size motor will be better, the 250 Motor might not have enough power to get it airborn. Hope that helps, Chellie

http://www.headsuphobby.com/Power-Up...otor-E-540.htm

I may be getting Older, But I Refuse to grow Up I am Having to much Fun to Grow Up LOL
CHELLIE is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2013, 08:08 PM   #14
CHELLIE
Super Contributor
 
CHELLIE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Hesperia, So. Calif
Posts: 18,215
View CHELLIE's Gallery13
Thanked 2,109 Times in 2,019 Posts
Club: Chino Renegades RC Flying Club
Awards Showcase

Scratchbuilders Award  Scratchbuilders Award  Ambassador Award  100mph Speed Demon 
iTrader: (4)
Friends: (305)
Default

Originally Posted by BroncoSquid View Post
(Looks around cautiously) Pssssst! Chellie. (whispering) We all love your contest, but this thread is 9 months old.
Silly me i did not catch That Thank You anyway, if he returns here, he will know that he needs a bigger motor

I may be getting Older, But I Refuse to grow Up I am Having to much Fun to Grow Up LOL
CHELLIE is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Reply

  WattFlyer RC Electric Flight Forums - Discuss radio control eflight > Electric R/C Airplanes > Scratch and Kit Built Aircraft

Tags
bleriot ix , english channel , scratch

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Model Airplane Building Clinic >> Begins 29 Sep. All Skill Levels Welcomed Murocflyer General Electric Discussions 282 11-04-2012 10:35 AM
#27 Model Airplane Building Clinic >> Mimi DLG 1 meter polyhedral<< aeroknot Hi-Performance and Sailplanes 94 10-23-2012 12:59 AM
Model Airplane Building Clinic - - Instructors Needed Murocflyer ParkFlyers 9 09-21-2012 01:55 AM
Building light vs. durability & Wing Loading vs. Stability payne9999 Scratch and Kit Built Aircraft 96 07-27-2012 02:27 AM
Its On, Start Building, 100 Mph Under $100.00 Foamie Contest CHELLIE Scratch and Kit Built Aircraft 151 09-12-2011 06:14 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:11 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2005 WattfFlyer.com
RCU Eflight HQ

Charities we support Select: Yorkie Rescue  ::  Crohn's & Colitis Foundation



Page generated in 0.43910 seconds with 50 queries