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Old 01-10-2013, 07:18 PM   #1
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Question What to buy? Looking for some advice and outside opinion

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I flown planes before. I wouldn't classify myself as an advanced level flyer but I wouldn't say I'm a beginner level flier. I'm probably comfortably at an intermediate level flier. I've destroyed a 30 inch wingspan eflite foamy plane and I have a 40 inch profile foamy edge Currently that I used to fly around practice some beginners 3-D. I can fly it in the sky fairly well and do some basic solid maneuvers and solid precision flying. The majority of the crashes I've had have been stupid things like a battery popping out and becoming disconnected or a simple bonehead move trying to go too crazy. I feel like I land plane's quite well now because I take long smooth sloping glides in. I still have nerves taking off and I did destroy that 30 inch plane that way because it wasn't set very well as far center of gravity. But overall I would say the majority of times I've had damaged my plane have been due to things outside of my control and not poor flying skills

So I'd really like to buy a third plane. I currently have that 40 inch foamy profile that I mentioned. As well as I bought a 40 inch profile balsa similar to the Eflight edge 540 balsa profiles.

That foamy plane, my biggest complaint about it is that the foam is so thin and flexible that even in-flight you can see the wings move & flex against the forces of the wind and it's just so fragile you bang a little bit and something breaks on it. So I want a better plane. I want something that has a more solid foam body, Either profile that is thick, or a full fuselage plane. Some part of me also thinks maybe I should just bite the bullet and try a Balsa. Though crashing a balsa is a big fear as I'm not great at repairs ... And everything I've been told says that also planes are a lot more work to repair.

So the planes I was thinking about Are listed below. The Carbon Z sounds great to me but I've heard a lot of reports about servos going screwy resulting in catastrophic crashes. The twisted hobby plane looks pretty cool to me but I have no knowledge of whether that phone is a lot more sick than your standard cheap $25 foamy kit. The acromaster looks like a nice in between of the other two but part of it looks a little bit clumsy in the air as far as flight and like it would not slow fly very well.

I'm not sure what to do. Does anyone have any opinions on these three plans or a push go and bite the bullet and go to a balsa plane? I listed two balsa planes that I really like down below. As far as I can tell, by the time you buy the Kits & electronics and the batteries all of these were pretty much washed out to about the same price of around $400 -$450

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E-flite Carbon Z
http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/De...rodID=EFL10080

Twisted Hobbies Telink 48" EPP Extra 330SC Red Fixed-Wing
http://www.twistedhobbys.com/Telink-...0SC-Red-FW.htm

Multiplex Acromaster
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...-kit-MPU214215

A 3DHobbyShop balsa 3D....

48" Edge 540 Orange
http://www.3dhobbyshop.com/48-Edge-5...e_p_15959.html

41" Edge 540 - Orange
http://www.3dhobbyshop.com/41-Edge-5...e_p_14908.html


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Old 01-10-2013, 11:40 PM   #2
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Either one 0f these will work nice, or you can buy both of them and give one to me LOL, Ok just kidding about giving one to me Take care and have fun, Chellie

48" Edge 540 Orange
http://www.3dhobbyshop.com/48-Edge-5...e_p_15959.html

41" Edge 540 - Orange
http://www.3dhobbyshop.com/41-Edge-5...e_p_14908.html

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Old 01-11-2013, 01:26 AM   #3
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you might also try techone swift 3d profile trainer sold by nitroplanes i just bought one and just today finished the build will maiden soon if the storm dont hit here like its forcasted . nitro has several profile planes that are epp foam you can kartwheel down the runway pick'em back up and go again or you might try hobbyking they have the yak 54 and 55 both epp foam also the hummer and the reaktor witch get a lot of possitive feedback but all in all the balsa planes are a handfull to fix when crashed where as the epp will glue back together at the flying field with superglue and kicker and your back flying in minutes
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Old 01-11-2013, 07:27 AM   #4
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I want to feel quite comfortable doing strange and weird maneuvers with a plane I consider expendable yet capable of any thing I want to try. I have several good balsa/ply 3D stunt planes, like my Reactor Bipe. ElectriFly Edge 540T, aand others.

I chose this plane from HobbyKing and I am very pleased with it. My motor is capable of a 650 watt burst, so it goes where ever you even think of. The rough EPP surfaces make it slow down real fast, so it is teaching me to keep some power on during approach.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=20111

It repairs easy with regular type super glues.
When I have flown this one 100-200 times then I will break out my better planes, what the heck i'm retired, I got time.

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Old 01-11-2013, 04:38 PM   #5
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You need a addiction PA, And you can have one for 1/2 what your budget is, The E-Flite edge 540 BP is a Great balsa profile, I've worn three out in 5 years, so many to look at out there , I've flown most all the more popular planes out there, owned and Friends planes at Fly-in's and the two I've mentioned are tops in my book for getting your 3/D on, I've taught quite a few to 3/D with these, , bubsteve


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Old 01-12-2013, 04:02 PM   #6
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Another option.......The ParkZone VisionAire
http://parkzone.com/Products/Default...ProdID=PKZ6580
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:12 PM   #7
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Judicious and thoughtful usage of materials such as CF rods and fiberglass packing tape can transform a thin sheet of foam into an astonishingly tough and rigid structure. The tape alone can produce wings with structures so rigid you would swear there is a 3D spar somewhere inside.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:41 PM   #8
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Might want to check out: http://www.extremeflightrc.com/

or http://www.valuehobby.com/airplanes/...bre-x-arf.html

There's also a site dedicated 100% to 3D: http://www.3drcforums.com/

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I have a 3dhs 48 edge and I love it. Light and floaty on 3s and a great platform for learning. I,m pretty new at 3d flying and really only started it this year on a twisted hobbies crack Pitts. Love my edge. This is my first balsa plane as well. Very happy with it. Here is a video of its 2nd flight in case you want to see it flown by someone really just starting out in balsa.

http://youtu.be/l9hMhoN5u0s

I have seen very good things about the telink plane and almost bought one of those as well. I still might get one now that they have a removable wing version.

I have read not nice things about the carbon z as far as 3d flying. It's a sharp looking plane but if I remember it does need some help to be able to be 3d'd well. I'd have to dig around to find out what. I would personally avoid that one.

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Originally Posted by Aaeolien View Post
I have a 3dhs 48 edge and I love it. Light and floaty on 3s and a great platform for learning. I,m pretty new at 3d flying and really only started it this year on a twisted hobbies crack Pitts. Love my edge. This is my first balsa plane as well. Very happy with it. Here is a video of its 2nd flight in case you want to see it flown by someone really just starting out in balsa.

http://youtu.be/l9hMhoN5u0s

I have seen very good things about the telink plane and almost bought one of those as well. I still might get one now that they have a removable wing version.

I have read not nice things about the carbon z as far as 3d flying. It's a sharp looking plane but if I remember it does need some help to be able to be 3d'd well. I'd have to dig around to find out what. I would personally avoid that one.
Nice... I think I'm kinda around ur skill level, nice plane & flight
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Thanks. It is a great plane for sure.

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Old 01-13-2013, 05:52 PM   #12
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I just picked up a multiplex parkmaster for my first 3d plane. Got it in PNF condition for $50. Got 2 packs.through it seems more.capable then I am at this time lol.
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How thick/tough is the parkmaster foam? Does it feel strong like you could smack it without damage of flimsy like it'd damage easily?
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You could build one ,the plans construction pictures and videos are here. I used 3 dollars of dollar tree foam and gorilla glue to build mine. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...ghlight=ultron


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