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Old 01-31-2013, 12:14 AM   #1
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I am going to build my first electric. I want to use the equavalent of a .60 nitro. How do I know what motor mount, ESC, motor, battery, what do i use to connect the prop to the motor shaft, spinner? How do I find this info?
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Oh so many variables there! Is this a .60 cub or a .60 Pylon racer???

The easy choice is to get something like the E-flite power 60 or equivalent and figure the rest out from there.

This is a good tool for playing with battery/prop/motor combos. It will give you thrust, amp draw, watts etc.

http://www.ecalc.ch/motorcalc_e.htm?castle

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+1. Check out DriveCalc as well.

Also, if you browse the conversion forums (glow to electric), you can see what components are being used for the type of plane you have in mind and various approaches for installing them.

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I am going to build my first electric. I want to use the equavalent of a .60 nitro. How do I know what motor mount, ESC, motor, battery, what do i use to connect the prop to the motor shaft, spinner? How do I find this info?
What kind of plane do you want to build, what will be its Approx weight, wing span, do you want to fly 3D or just sport flying, Like Bill said, lots of Variables from plane to Plane, when you get ready to buy a power system, Contact Jeff at Heads Up Rc, Jeff has Some of the best Prices on a Power system and only 2.00 shipping on the whole purchase, Tell Jeff that Chellie sent you

http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...h-06%29/Detail

http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...-80-Amp/Detail

you will need a UBEC with this ESC, as larger ESC normally dont have BECs built in.
http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...-CC-BEC/Detail

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/show...t=ubec+chellie

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39483

with this 60 size 580KV motor i would use a 5 or 6 cell lipo. 4500 to 5000mah and 20C Rated, hobby kings turnigy lipo is one of the better values in price, they have a USA Warehouse if your in the states.

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WOW, thanks for thr response. Actually it's an old F-15 great planes balsa kit. I have no idea of weight. Does motor come with a way to afix the prop to it?
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WOW, thanks for thr response. Actually it's an old F-15 great planes balsa kit. I have no idea of weight. Does motor come with a way to afix the prop to it?
Model specs are:
Wingspan: 47 in.
Wing area: 615 sq. in
Weight: 6-6.5 lbs
Engine: 46 2-stroke

Ok, Now we have something to work with

Motor 500KV 1400 Watts it comes with a collar to mount the prop.
http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...0-Sport/Detail

100 AMP ESC with Switchmode bec, you dont need a seperate UBEC with this ESC, it has a 6 Amp switching BEC built in to it.
http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the...00A-ESC/Detail

12x9 apc prop.
http://www.rcplanet.com/ProductDetai...FYp_Qgod9T8AVQ

6 cell 5000mah 25C rated Lipo, 125AMPs, 5000mah = 5 amps x 25C Rated= 125 AMP Lipo.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...arehouse_.html

You will need to get a Wattmeter to check the final AMP and Watt Draw, this is a must to protect your investment and so you dont burn anything up, the 12x9 apc prop should be OK on the Amp draw, as this motor can use a 14x7 prop on 6 cell, but you need to check it to be on the safe side,

Wattmeter 130 AMP
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...arch=wattmeter

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Check your Cowel to make sure this motor will fit, the motor size is 50mm x 60mm

Power Up 60 Sport Specifications:
Weight = 12.9 ounces (367 grams)
Diameter = 1.97 inch (50 mm)
Motor length = 2.36 inch (60 mm) from motor base to tip of rotor
Shaft = 6mm x 0.75 inch
Voltage = 12 - 25 volts (4 to 6 cell Lipo batteries)
Current = maximum of 70 amps for 60 seconds
Watts = maximum of 1400 watts for 60 seconds
KV (rpm/v) = 500

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I am going to build my first electric. I want to use the equavalent of a .60 nitro. How do I know what motor mount, ESC, motor, battery, what do i use to connect the prop to the motor shaft, spinner? How do I find this info?
Hey, did you come to the right place!

I've electrified a number of models in this size. You need a quality motor around 1200 Watts or so. A number of them are available, I happen to like the Hacker series. I've got three Hacker A50 motors, the two A50-12S motors have about the same horsepower and performance as a quality four stroke 70 size glow engine. (Also have one A30, two A40's, and two A60's) It's not to hard to electrify a glow type model, and have it outperform the same model with glow power. The advantage glow has is longer flight times. My flights are on the order of 6 or 7 minutes, with a 3 minute reserve for go arounds, someone on the field and so on.

IMHO, with models of this size and power ratings, its not a good idea to go cheap. As indicated, the Hacker A50 series of motors, the Castle Creations ICE series of ESC's are all top quality. As for mounting the prop to the motor, the Hacker series of motors include all firewall mounting hardware, and appropriate prop adapters, ready to go.

https://www.aero-model.com/8_69_899/...-12S%20V2.html

One very nice combination is the Hanger 9 Kantana model with 59 inch wingspan, and the Hacker A50-12S motor, and 16X8 APC-E (Electric) prop. This power system hauls that 8 pound model off the ground in about 30 feet, and will fly straight up out of sight.

You might have noticed the large diameter props, that's typical for a high power brushless motor. My models run the A123 battery packs. With a 6S2P (6 series 2 parallel) 4600 Mah battery pack, the motor turns that 16X8 prop at 7700 RPM, putting out 11.5 pounds of thrust. The motor is pulling about 65 Amps, and about 1200 Watts. That 1200 watts represents about 1.6 horsepower.

As indicated in the following threads, one of those computer programs such as www.motocalc.com will help greatly in your power system selection. Motocalc is free for 30 days, then $39.

Take a look at the following threads.

Thread on 70 size glow engine conversion to electric
http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45222

Hacker 6S2P A123 powered Models
http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44686

Hangar 9 Kantana Model
http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68844

AEAJR's Site on Electric Power
http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18521

Great Planes Giant Big Stick Electric Conversion
http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65052

Giant Scale Cessna Model
http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66414

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Hi I Agree with Denny, if you have the Big Bucks, Go with Hacker Motors and Castle Creation ESC, They are the Best of the Best, But for the Rest of us Poor Folks the Motors that Heads Up Rc Sells are good enough for Sport Flying and will get the Job Done, I just wish i could afford Hacker Motors Take care and Have Fun, Chellie

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http://www3.menards.com/main/home-de...612-c-7158.htm I have found this kinda pushpin board has worked out great for me ,it hold pins real well and its 48 inches wide .I but two so i can build my bigger wings . Its the same paper on both sides so when one side starts to get beat up you can flip it over . I bought two 8 years ago and iam still using them today. For building smaller planes you could just but one and cut it in half for a 16 x 48 or 16x 8ft . joe
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Originally Posted by CHELLIE View Post
Hi I Agree with Denny, if you have the Big Bucks, Go with Hacker Motors and Castle Creation ESC, They are the Best of the Best, But for the Rest of us Poor Folks the Motors that Heads Up Rc Sells are good enough for Sport Flying and will get the Job Done, I just wish i could afford Hacker Motors Take care and Have Fun, Chellie
Dont feel alone chellie i wish i could spring for some hacker motors too.Its the price i pay for having other toys joe
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